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Thursday January 30 00:23:01 2003
Re: Rescue Maiden

> LV, Tapemaster: Not sure what you guys are talking about.
> Without the 'Fair Maiden', there's really no toy. It is
> pretty clear to me that the little molded bound damsel is
> an integral part of the product.

I was also just making a joke. There was a list of featured parts below the picture, which didn't include mention of any figures, bound or otherwise.

More seriously, I don't think it was part of the actual set, but just a display for this particular ad. And without the "fair maiden", it is a train set.

If it actually is part of the product, I really didn't think it was much to get excited over except as an interesting novelty to see once and have a nice chuckle.

Thursday January 30 00:23:24 2003
My Classic Holy Grail

Interesting posts on holy grails! My ultimate holy grail is the very first mainstream tied and gagged scene that I ever saw. It aired back in the mid 1960's when I was a young kid. From that day forward, I have been interested in DID B&G scenes. Unfortunately, I do not even know what show or movie that it was in. I have posted about his scene before with no luck.

In the scene, the damsel was a young woman (probably 20 something), who had her hands tied (IIRC, behind the back), and she sported a thick, light-colored OTM gag. The gag may have been yellow, but it could have been another light color. (The TV I watched was Black and White.) From what I remember, the damsel was not tied down to a chair. Rather, she appeared to be walking or moving around a room in which she was confined. My best guess is that the scene aired in about 1965 or 1966, but I cannot be 100 percent sure. Any help with identifying the scene would be greatly appreciated.

mornad

mornad4@yahoo.com

Thursday January 30 00:26:27 2003
Re: Holy Grails

> > FIVE ASHORE IN SINGAPORE (aka SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE), a
> I have that scene, I got it in a trade a few years ago.
> Marika Green, Jessy Greek, & Trudy Connor tied together &
> gagged. Haven't looked at it in a LONG time but I think
> it was a pretty fair scene.

Haven't seen it in ages either, but I remember it was pretty nice. Marika Green wasa quite a looker.

IIRC, the star of the film was Errol Flynn's son.
The film itself was pretty dopey, but in an entertaining MST3K sort of way.

Thursday January 30 00:27:18 2003
Re: Joe Millionaire

> I think it's commercial bondage porn rather than DiD
> though.

Which of course makes the entire thing off-topic. Being
a nice guy (today) I won't delete the already posted
messsage. ANYTHING FURTHER GOES BYE-BYE.

Take it to AG where it belonged in the first place.

The Moderator

Thursday January 30 00:29:11 2003
Re: Spanish Scenes

> I don't think any but the biggest prudes are gonna be
> offended by these photos. Let's just hope we don't have
> any Insex or ZFX models show up in a big mainstream
> venue.

Ha! That's too funny Pat! If anything, this might boost her career. Don't they say the worst kind of publicity is no publicity? Even Darva (What do you mean you're not really a millionaire!!??) Conger got a few extra minutes of fame after her 15 minutes were up.

Heck, if Traci Lords can go mainstream, anybody can!

MadFish

Thursday January 30 00:34:55 2003
Re: Spanish Scenes

> We decided not to reveal them by name when they use a
> different name for the two different kinds of work, but I
> don't think we said not to discuss the topic generally. I
> guess that would be Brian's call.

Incorrect, I ruled the other way previously on these
topics.

> My two cents: I think it's reasonable on a discussion
> board about bondage scenes in mainstream media to note
> when bondage models show up in mainstream media. Although
> it's fast becoming a commonplace.

But the bondage scenes aren't in the mainstream media,
they are in porn. The fact that the actress is in a later
mainstream production in irrelevent. The only exception
would be if the actress discussed her bondage career
on a mainstream show.

The Moderator

Thursday January 30 00:54:42 2003
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Thursday January 30 00:55:47 2003
Re: Error in post

> I got the error:
>
> Warning: Division by zero in
> /web/home2/w220131/docs/submit.php on line 42
>
> Whan I tried to make a posting

The only way to do that is to post a message that had
only carriage returns in the body, and no other content.

The Moderator

Thursday January 30 01:41:44 2003
Re: My Classic Holy Grail

> In the scene, the damsel was a young woman (probably 20
> something), who had her hands tied (IIRC, behind the
> back), and she sported a thick, light-colored OTM gag.
> From what I remember, the damsel was not tied
> down to a chair. Rather, she appeared to be walking or
> moving around a room in which she was confined. My best
> guess is that the scene aired in about 1965 or 1966, but
> I cannot be 100 percent sure.

Can you give us some more details? What color hair did she have? What hair style? Was she walking around the room or hopping? Was it a TV show or a movie shown on TV? Was she alone in a room or were other people there with her?

Tapemaster

Thursday January 30 10:59:49 2003
Re: Rerun Stuff

> > Okay then... LAURA SAN GIACOMO!!! (*Just Shoot Me*)
> >
> > 5'2", *killer* figure, feisty...
>
> And has seen better days

Yeah...I"ve never really gotten the Laura San Giacomo thing....there's something about a unibrow and a big space between the front teeth that just doesn't do it for me...

Thursday January 30 11:00:56 2003
Are you mental?

"Which of course makes the entire thing off-topic. Being
a nice guy (today) I won't delete the already posted
messsage. ANYTHING FURTHER GOES BYE-BYE."

Just curious: Are you such a nebbish in real life, so walked-on and laughed at, that you feel the need to come across as such a slobbering control freak on this forum?

Your omnipotent demeanor is laughably absurd. I suspect the only reason posters here put up with your issues is due to a lack of other respectable discussion forums.

Grow the fuck up.

DanT

Thursday January 30 12:16:26 2003
Re: Joe Millionaire

>
> Which of course makes the entire thing off-topic. Being
> a nice guy (today) I won't delete the already posted
> messsage. ANYTHING FURTHER GOES BYE-BYE.
>
> Take it to AG where it belonged in the first place.
>

Holy SMOKES. Someone asked a question about the news report and I answered. Because it was commercial bondage I didn't ever mention it again.

Sorry.

jessi

Thursday January 30 12:33:16 2003
Re: Question

> What are some examples of...

One of my favorites in this category is Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman scene, "The Starships Are Coming" episode. While tied to a chair, she seemed to be goading the villain with a "truth, justice & the American way/good will always triumph over evil"-speech to the point where the villain gets pissed off and gags her in a decisively angry manner. That's also the only WW scene where Ms. Carter makes any noise at all while gagged.

NE 1

Thursday January 30 13:12:36 2003
Re: Question

> > What are some examples of...
>
> One of my favorites in this category is Lynda Carter's
> Wonder Woman scene, "The Starships Are Coming" episode.

Scene possibly inspired by Catwoman's gagging of Batgirl in 'Batman'.

Thursday January 30 13:17:31 2003
Re: Are you mental?

> Your omnipotent demeanor is laughably absurd. I suspect
> the only reason posters here put up with your issues is
> due to a lack of other respectable discussion forums.
>
> Grow the fuck up.

Agreed. How freaking anal can someone get? Maybe she'll discuss her former career in an upcoming episode.

Thursday January 30 13:27:52 2003
Re: Are you mental?

> Just curious: Are you such a nebbish in real life, so
> walked-on and laughed at, that you feel the need to come
> across as such a slobbering control freak on this forum?
>
> Your omnipotent demeanor is laughably absurd. I suspect
> the only reason posters here put up with your issues is
> due to a lack of other respectable discussion forums.
>
> Grow the fuck up.

Although I, myself, have had a number of disagreements with the Moderator about a number of things, and there are plenty of times when I disagree with his rulings, there is absolutely no need for personal insults. It is MEAN and it does not accomplish anything. There are much more constructive ways of making your point to the Moderator. Let's all be civil, please. We are in this together.

Tapemaster

http://www.abductor.com/raffish/

Thursday January 30 15:09:58 2003
Re: Dragnet 1969

> Argh! I had to be somewhere on Monday and didn't set my
> VCR, since I saw the earlier postings about it being the
> comedy version of "Dragnet"-

Its being repeated sometime next week I think.

Anubis

Thursday January 30 15:11:43 2003
Re: Dragnet 1969

> You're in luck. It repeats next month on AMC on
> Wednesday, Feb. 19 at 8:50 a.m. CST.

Woops, it's next month, not next week. My bad.
heh!
Just as FYI for anyone who missed it, I'm showing it on my site this weekend.

Anubis

Thursday January 30 15:26:20 2003
Re: Holy Grails

> well, maybe not Holy Grails, - but MWS (Most Wanted
> Scenes :-). Many of these scenes made it to this list
> based on information I gathered on the web: Posts,
> Vidcaps, Vidclips, Database Descriptions. Before the Internet age, my list was a lot shorter.

I have the same thing now- a list of MWS that I wouldn't have known about were it not for this little web community.

I think the Internet has given us a little bit more "freedom to be picky" in our choices of scenes. If you are able to view vidcaps of a scene, it gives you a reasonable idea of what the scene will look like, and whether or not it is worth trying to obtain.

PRW

Thursday January 30 15:29:02 2003
Re: Dragnet 1969

> You're in luck. It repeats next month on AMC on
> Wednesday, Feb. 19 at 8:50 a.m. CST.

Thanks guys! I'll keep an eye out for it.

PRW

Thursday January 30 16:21:25 2003
Re: Are you mental?

> Just curious: Are you such a nebbish in real life, so
> walked-on and laughed at, that you feel the need to come
> across as such a slobbering control freak on this forum?
>
> Grow the fuck up.

Just curious, Dan: Are you such a nebbish in real life, so walked-on and laughed at, that you feel the need to try to show off your balls online by insulting someone who is enforcing his own well-published rules in his own 100 percent free forum?

That's like accepting an invitation to a dinner party and kicking the host in the crotch becuase you don't like the appetizers.

Much as I try never to respond to such idiocy, your astonishingly offensive post takes the cake.

If you don't like the rules, start your own site, jackass. Meanwhile, feel free to fuck off and don't come back.

Hibiscus

Thursday January 30 16:32:50 2003
Re: Are you mental?

> If you don't like the rules, start your own site,
> jackass. Meanwhile, feel free to fuck off and don't come back.

I'd have said much the same thing -- except that I recognized that, while Brian's always given free rein to the posts of his critics, my telling this particular fuckwad what I thought of his comments might well qualify as abusiveness and get me deleted. (Thereby making more work for the mod.)

But hey...I'll call it ironic and take my chances: DanT, here's hoping someone takes your tonsils out through your ears.

Raffish

Thursday January 30 16:39:43 2003
This week's update

This week: tape gags by request! (Got a weekly theme to suggest? You know where to reach me.) Presenting Tracey Needham in JAG "Brig Break," Carla Borelli in Mannix "Color Her Missing," Gina Gershon in Palmetto, Alex Datcher in Perry Mason: The Case Of The Tell-Tale Talk Show Host, Teri Austin and Sandra Nelson in Scene Of The Crime "Curse Of The Twins," and Marisa Tomei in The Watcher.

Raffish

raffish@abductor.com

Thursday January 30 16:52:24 2003
Re: This week's update

> Teri Austin and Sandra Nelson in Scene Of The
> Crime "Curse Of The Twins,"

One of the best scenes you'll ever see.

Thursday January 30 17:30:06 2003
Re: Joe Millionaire

How about somebody here send a news provider vidcaps of Heather Locklear B&G from her TJ Hooker/Dynasty days and say they're images from her pre-stardom commercial bondage shoots?

I'm sure someone will be fooled.

"Hey Gus, look at Heather's old bondage photos. There she's tied up in a sexy dress menaced by a snake. Here she is bound and gagged face-down on a bed. Look at her bound and gagged in a cop's uniform. Kinky!"

Thursday January 30 18:20:29 2003
Jessica Biel on Danger Girl on UPN!

The Dark Horizons site has a one sentence news item stating that JESSICA BIEL is "being eyed" for a part in the UPN adaptation of the comic. Phalanges juxtaposed!

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/59/15/12m.jpg

Van

vvvan@earthlink.net

http://www.darkhorizons.com/

Thursday January 30 18:32:26 2003
Bondage KOs?

I hope no one minds my continual mixing of KO and bondage fetishes,but I do have a question--does any one know of any scenes in movies and/or TV shows where the villain knocks a damsel out when she is already in bondage? I think I have a vague recollection of seeing this happen,many long years ago on some spy movie from the 1960s or early 1970s,but the way my memory is lately,I may be totally confused! If you have any information about such scenes,I would appreciate it!

gytalf2000

Thursday January 30 18:58:41 2003
re: the Joe Millilonaire thing

Whoa...Dan T., pull in the reins. You can't very well go into a free site and start bitching & insulting the webmaster because you don't like the rules he sets, be they "fair" or "correct" in your book or not. I imagine you could just ask a question or bring it up civilly and get much more response (and possible cooperation) from the Moderator of the site rather than coming across like a total jackass.
In fact, I'm going to bring up a question on the subject, just to show how easy it is:
Brian, exactly WHY is this subject off-topic here? I was kind of wondering that even before what's-his-name's pleasant posting. I mean, she is a commercial bondage actress true, and makes commercial videos yes, but this particular situation she's in on "Joe Millionaire" is definitely a mainstream topic I'd think....appearing on a mainstream show, etc. I mean, it's not like anyone here has been promoting Helpless Heroine videos or anything. Most posts I've read here about it have all been mainstream-topic based I'd think.
Besides, it seems to be a topis most everyone here is wanting to discuss so keeping it would probably be a popular decision (even though I know this isn't a "popularity contest" thing!).
Don't mean to question your decisions, it's all good as far as I'm concerned, but I was just curious as to why this one is so off-topic. I rarely question your decisions but felt I needed to ask this one. Besides it might clear things up for Dan & the other dickheads who obviously didn't learn much in "Tact 101"! thanks!

JAPfeif@aol.com

Thursday January 30 19:23:22 2003
Re: Bondage KOs?

> does any one know of
> any scenes in movies and/or TV shows where the villain
> knocks a damsel out when she is already in bondage?

It does not seem to happen that often. The only one I can think of right now is MARTIAL LAW: "End Game", where Kelly Hu starts kicking the villains while her hands are bound and her mouth is gagged. She then is subdued by getting hit on the head. At first it seems that she is knocked unconscious, but she is conscious in the next scene.

Tapemaster

Thursday January 30 19:24:27 2003
clarification

I understand this is brians board and a free page, but I just feel it was a little harsh to single out MY post which was one of the FIRST on the subject, simply answering the question "Has anyone heard about that Girl on Joe Millionaire". in fact, I clarified that it was commercial bondage rather than DiD (hopefully to imply that I understood the rules) and I STILL get scolded.

I just think it was a bit of an overreaction. Like I said I've been gone for a while, but man...the rules have really been pulled taut.

jessi

Thursday January 30 20:18:21 2003
Moderator needs a life

The moderator is worthless. Shuns people for no reason. Obviously has no life, no girlfriend, no self respect or a real career. Gets his fun in running a Nazi regime here on the boards. Loser. Completely.

Lexie

Thursday January 30 20:44:35 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

> a real career. Gets his fun in running a Nazi regime
> here on the boards. Loser. Completely.

Um. Yeah. Over-moderating a message board is certainly equivalent to slaughtering up to 10 million human beings.

Good show. :rolleyes:

jessi

Thursday January 30 20:47:47 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

Thursday January 30 20:49:07 2003
this board

I mostly lurk here, unless I have really good, breaking tips on mainstream scenes; then I post. I'm interested in mainstream info only; that's why I'm here. I like it when discussions get heated, but not personal. I like sarcasm and wit, puns and just plain funny stuff; but mostly when it's mixed with intelligence and good info. I respect Brian; I like his page. That's it, my 2 cents.

Thursday January 30 21:00:58 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

> The moderator is worthless. Shuns people for no reason.
> Obviously has no life, no girlfriend, no self respect or
> a real career. Gets his fun in running a Nazi regime
> here on the boards. Loser. Completely.

All right people. I was going to remain silent on this, but everyone else is putting their two-cents in, so I thought I would too. How hard is it to take a discussion over to Anything Goes? I mean, if Brian says "Non-topic", the rules aren't going to change and bitching about it will only get you on his bad side (luckily I think I've managed to stay away from that...probably deals with not posting enough). But really, Brian takes his own personal time and money and spends it on this site and people gripe and complain when something doesn't go their way.

Hey, maybe his ruling was unfair; Who cares? Look, be thankful we have a good site to post at and aren't using UseNet or any crap like that.

Goten

songoten4@yahoo.com

Thursday January 30 21:12:07 2003
everyone be cool

I've never posted before,I'm just a reader. What I have read here today has caused me to take action. I don't know what caused this whole "Joe Millionaire" arguement,and at this point I don't care. Why can't we all just be cool to each other. We're all here for the same reasons, and if you don't like the way the Moderater runs things, then no one forces you to come and check the website. Personally, I think this is a great website, and I applaude everyone involved in its maintenance(be it one or many. Now please, out of respect for a Mr. Charles Darwin, who believed that evolution should theoretically allow to us to overcome this little squabbles with logic, let's all be cool.

Jimmy_Death

Thursday January 30 21:14:33 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

John Quincannon

Thursday January 30 21:15:12 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

> thought I would too. How hard is it to take a discussion
> over to Anything Goes? I mean, if Brian says "Non-topic",

If brian had said 'lets cool it and have the discussion in AG" i'd have been fine, but he singled out MY post which was the SECOND one on the subject (which is still going on right here in this forum) and scolded ME for posting even though my post was clarifying that it wasn't material for this board.

THAT is what was not fair. Certainly not NAZI like, and I'm not 'pissed' but it was a little catty.

jessi

http://cliffhangerproductions.8m.com

Thursday January 30 21:20:49 2003
Re: this board

I'm interested in mainstream info only; that's why I'm here. I like it when discussions get heated, but not personal. I like sarcasm and wit, puns and just plain funny stuff; but mostly when it's mixed with intelligence and good info. I respect Brian; I like his page. That's it, my 2 cents.

Well said and I agree completely.....

FUZZ

fzfamily@aol.com

Thursday January 30 21:24:09 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

Everybody needs to chill. It's obvious these trolls are trying to start a flame war like they do on the AG page. The best way to deal with the trolls is to ignore them. We can all sing our praises for The Moderator, but in the end he's the one that's going to have to clean up all of these non-posts.

Let's just move on.

MadFish

Thursday January 30 21:28:37 2003
{Sigh}

Three things:

(1) There is no excuse for lack of civility.

(2) Moderators are supposed to... MODERATE! Veterans of the Thread Wars know how things go on this site when Mr. Moderator gets too busy to rein things in:
(A) A post happens (usually more or less "on topic.")
(B) The "answers" begin & wander off on various tangents.
(C) Eventually Mr. M. shows up & declares that the amount of dark matter in the known universe, the dynastic politics of the Late Assyrian Empire, & the recommendend procedure for deworming one's ferret are OFF TOPIC!
(D) Various people grumble, gather up their history books, telescopes, & ferrets & stomp home.
(E) *Another* post happens...

In other words... been there, done that, got the "Have you kissed your Moderator today?" t-shirt.

(3) There is no excuse for lack of civility.

Van

vvvan@earthlink.net

Thursday January 30 22:17:39 2003
Re: Rescue Maiden

> I don't think it was part of the actual
> set, but just a display for this particular ad. And
> without the "fair maiden", it is a train set.

Tapemaster: I could see that your first post might very well have been meant as a joke; and as such was amusing indeed. However, (now I'm joking), why does Rich rate a "VERY" in his apology and I don't?! [No need to reply.]

LV: I accept that your first post was a joke, based poresumably on a misinterpretation of the catalog page. This is not a 'train set', but an 'operating accessory' consisting of a building, 2 figures (the bound fair maiden in question and the Mountie rescuer), the mechanism that moves the 2 figures and 1 method of activating that mechanism. I am told that Lionel has offered this type of accessory before, but it's the first time I saw such a thing.

Having had a discussion in a chatroom about the relatively large coincidence of bondage lovers and railfans and/or model railroaders (in that chatroom at that time), I then wondered how one could "model" a damsel-tied-to-the-tracks scene without having to remove said damsel every time one wanted to run the train. I was amused/thrilled to see that someone had solved that problem, albeit in a very toy-like manner.

PS to everyone: Troll? What troll?

Rich McGill

Thursday January 30 22:27:53 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

Brian ROCKS!!!

I've yet to disagree with anything the moderator has done.

This site is an AMAZING accomplishment.

I LOVE it here & most of the regulars are great.

Be nice to the moderator, he has to put up with Van...
;)

Snowcat

Thursday January 30 22:47:02 2003
"Terror Among Us" Remake

Okay, I know I haven't asked this question in over a year. Does anyone have any new candidates for a TAU remake? THAT would definitely be MY Holy Grail! Thanks for your suggestions.

Delbert

Thursday January 30 23:04:19 2003
This Site is A-OK!!

Personally, I find that the reduction of non-topic stuff and pointless postings is great. The Moderator may have different opinions than some, including myself sometimes, but the WHOLE is certainly worth it.

By the way, I am Canadian, and those Canadian alerts are a God-send, since the TV listings and guides in this part of the country aren't terrific, in my opinion. I have found LOTS of moments worth finding through those alerts, so keep them coming, and know someone in Canada is reading and appreciative.

Thanks for the time

Snow Guy

Thursday January 30 23:10:06 2003
TAPEMASTER

See my post on AG. I refuse to go into this discussion here and break Brian's rules again. Just get over to AG and see what I posted.

Todd 3-D

todd3d@yahoo.com

Thursday January 30 23:18:41 2003
Re: Moderator needs a life

> All right people. I was going to remain silent on this,
> but everyone else is putting their two-cents in, so I
> thought I would too. How hard is it to take a discussion
> over to Anything Goes?

That's a good question. It is not at all difficult to take a discussion over to Anything Goes. Try it sometime. See what happens.

> But really, Brian takes his own personal
> time and money and spends it on this site and people
> gripe and complain when something doesn't go their way.

You're right about this, but I have found that there are people on the Web who will take everything you have, offer you nothing in return, rebuke you for not giving it to them fast enough and then complain about what they got. They get pretty easy to ignore once you figure out their game.

Pat Powers

Thursday January 30 23:23:10 2003
Re: My Classic Holy Grail

> Can you give us some more details? What color hair did
> she have? What hair style? Was she walking around the
> room or hopping? Was it a TV show or a movie shown on TV?
> Was she alone in a room or were other people there with her?

Thanks for your interest! I can't recall much about her hair color or hair style, I was too focused on the gag! It may have been brown hair of a moderate length, but I am not sure. She appeared to be walking aound the room rather than hopping, and I am pretty sure that she was alone in the room. In addition, IIRC, there was a fair amount of mmmphing.

I don't know if was a TV show or a movie. At one time, I thought the scene was from the Batman series, but I have reviewed the descriptions of all of the Batman scenes in the database, and I have seen most of them in Batman reruns without coming across the scene. Hence, I am inclined to believe that the scene was not in Batman. My guess is that the scene was in some other Tv show or in a TV movie in about 1965 or 1966. Any help would be appreciated.

mornad

mornad4@yahoo.com

Thursday January 30 23:25:26 2003
Re: Rescue Maiden

> Tapemaster: I could see that your first post might very
> well have been meant as a joke; and as such was amusing
> indeed. However, (now I'm joking), why does Rich rate a
> "VERY" in his apology and I don't?! [No need to reply.]

That's okay, I'll respond. My apology to you was included as part of another post. Also, I posted it before my apology to (the other) Rich. I did not think of including the "very" the first time. I only thought of it in the second apology. I hope this makes sense.

I'm glad you thought my joke was amusing.

Tapemaster

Thursday January 30 23:33:40 2003
Brian's Page Rocks

I really enjoy this site and I think the Moderator does a great job. BTW I rented the other day a 2002 movie called "Lift" that in the last ten-minutes has a very cute, professionally dressed, black woman (Kerry Washington) handcuffed. It's a quick scene and she struggles with the police while she's being taken away.

Viking

Thursday January 30 23:35:16 2003
Re: My Classic Holy Grail

> Thanks for your interest! I can't recall much about her
> hair color or hair style, I was too focused on the gag!
> It may have been brown hair of a moderate length, but I
> am not sure. She appeared to be walking aound the room
> rather than hopping, and I am pretty sure that she was
> alone in the room. In addition, IIRC, there was a fair
> amount of mmmphing.

The scene that I keep thinking of is THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E.: "The Brain Killer Affair" (from the first season 1964-1965) with Yvonne Craig bound and gagged. However, she was tape-gagged. She was in a chair and then she hopped across the room (her ankles were bound.) Also, there were other people in the room. It doesn't sound like your description, but is it possible that this could be the scene?

Tapemaster

Thursday January 30 23:48:26 2003
Re: TAPEMASTER

> See my post on AG. I refuse to go into this discussion
> here and break Brian's rules again. Just get over to AG
> and see what I posted.

Todd, what are you doing? I just saw your post at Anything Goes and you are basically just saying what you have already said. You disagree with me. I know that already. Evidently, I am not going to change your mind and you are not going to change my mind. Why are you making this into such a big deal? Why do you seem to have such hostility toward me?

Tapemaster