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| Tuesday February 18 00:14:49 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| > No, because everything in a production is not of equal
> value or importance. How the characters look is > important. The dialogue is pretty important. How > realistically they are tied up is pretty low on the > priority list for a director. There is little need for a > realistic tie up if a symbolic one (e.g. hands tied in > front) will convey the same message to the audience. I think if the scene continues for a while, THEN the ropework should be more noticably restraining. I've seen scenes that are "quickies" - you see the actress tied up only when the hero rescues her. If the actress is to free herself, or be seen tied up for a long time to build up drama or sympathy, then she should be tied in a way that looks more stringent, because we will be forced to focus on it. Btw, is it the case that badly done scenes tend to also be short ones? If so, it backs up what I'm saying. If not, then I guess the directors don't think the same as me. Also, what about "hands behind chair" scenes? Are they becoming less common? I still find them pretty dramatic myself. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Tuesday February 18 00:52:08 2003 Deleted post report |
| Title: Re: Joe Millionaire
Poster: Tapemaster Reason: I tell you what pal, blatantly ignoring my expressed rulings on a topic is good way to get your ass banned. You are on extreme notice! |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday February 18 00:57:23 2003 Boomtown 3/2/03 |
| Just saw a preview for an upcoming episode of Boomtown that airs on March 2nd. The episode is about a gang of ruthless home-invasion thugs who do more than just steal. In the preview, one of the thugs had ahold of a young blonde woman. The scene was in a darkened bedroom and he was shining a flashlight on her, but I'm fairly positive she was wearing a leather collar and cuffs. |
| MadFish |
| Tuesday February 18 01:22:54 2003 Re: Deleted post report |
| > Title: Re: Joe Millionaire
> Poster: Tapemaster > Reason: I tell you what pal, blatantly ignoring my > expressed rulings on a topic is good way to get your ass > banned. You are on extreme notice! Brian, I was just about to write a post thanking you for not deleting the 3 posts about "Joe Millionaire." I was just about to praise you for being a good guy about it. I guess I was being premature. You did not delete the first 2 posts 2 hours ago, why bother now? The thing is over. All I wanted to do was save the people on the west coast the trouble of watching this show tonight. The show purposefully hinted at the possibility of showing footage from Sara's bondage videos. They were deliberately trying to get people to watch it by mentioning that. People that visit this site were going to tune in. You know it. I gave a simple post informing the west coasters what was actually in the show. I think you are being extremely petty about this. Like I said before, I understand WHY it is TECHNICALLY off-topic. Everybody does. However, you do not have to split hairs with every ruling. This website is supposed to be fun. You have gotten some nasty posts recently about being a "tyrant" and using this site to make yourself feel powerful. I replied to those posts saying that name calling and personal attacks were mean and unproductive. I think a lot of people that come to this site are not finding it as fun as it could be. I certainly feel this way. What are you more interested in, having fun talking with people who have a similar interest to you, or making people mad by moderating to the letter of the law and making everyone uncomfortable. Do you have to delete every post that is technically off-topic, even a harmless (and brief) reference to a Gilligan's Island episode? Is this about pride? Are you more interested in being a ruler or having fun? This website is getting less and less fun all the time. Is that what you want? Moderator, you don't have to be that exact all of the time. Why don't you just relax and have some fun? |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday February 18 02:11:30 2003 She Spies |
| Scene time: After the halfway point. Gag type: Sorry, not really sure. |
| Bob |
| Tuesday February 18 02:33:55 2003 Re: She Spies |
| And the title for episode 17 is "Damsels in de-stress"!!! Stay tuned guys! |
| dean1 |
| Tuesday February 18 02:43:34 2003 Re: Deleted post report |
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Moderator, you don't have to be that exact all of the time. Why don't you just relax and have some fun? Let Brian do his thing please. I love this page and it is his and it is a privlage to be here not a rite. I like the rules cause it keeps it from being a mess like anything goes. |
| ME |
| Tuesday February 18 02:54:43 2003 Chair ties |
| My favourite chair ties DID scenes:
1. Last Innoncent Man (strange gag) 2. Sledgehammer (broken chair) 3. Walker (ticking bomb) 4. Intensity (lifting table) 5. Strange Luck (rescuing DID by carry the chair OTS) 6. Vegeance Unlimited (bloody handcuff) 7. Avenger and another movie (Gun in front of DID) 8. Strange Chair in Farscape (Gigi) - some sort of SawHorse? 9. Sliding chair (VIP) Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? |
| asian |
| Tuesday February 18 03:01:33 2003 Re: Veritas |
| > 'I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! ' is airing next
> Monday in Veritas' time slot so that may be all she wrote > for Cobie. ABC Web site says next episode will air Monday, March 10, which is right when the networks start running rerurns most of the time until the May sweeps. Looks like they'll play out the string until the sweeps. Usually, these midseason shows get about six or seven episodes, so I'm guessing they've got four or five left. Talk about the quick hook. I thought this show looked like "Prey." If only it lasted that long (13 episodes). |
| Brian W. |
| Tuesday February 18 03:10:34 2003 Re: Chair ties |
| > 2. Sledgehammer (broken chair)
One of my favorite scenes from the late 1980s. Great scene with Anne-Marie Martin, who I thought was incredibly sexy in that show. One of the tightest cleave-gags I've ever seen. Plus, her outfit was nice: white skirt, pinkish top, plus a good knockout scene. Thought that show was very entertaining. Sledgehammar himself (David Rashke) will be on "She Spies" this week in the talked about Kristen Miller episode. > > Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? Susan St. James did some nice chair hopping while B&G in McMillian & Wife. Charlene Tilton in "Dallas." Nicole Eggert in "Baywatch." |
| Brian W. |
| Tuesday February 18 04:42:07 2003 Oldest 1st Time DID |
| >Elizabeth Montgomery - 59 yrs old
Another candidate for 1st Time Full Treatment: Elmarie Wendel (or Wendell?) who plays Mrs Dubcek on "3rd Rock From The Sun". She was hit on the head by Kathy Bates. When she woke up, she was bound to a chair and gagged (OTM) in the basement. When Kathy Bates make a call, she make a lot of sound. The episode was aired on 1999, she was born in 1939. |
| Asian |
| Tuesday February 18 04:58:11 2003 Chair ties |
| > 5. Strange Luck (rescuing DID by carry the chair OTS)
> > Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? --------- Pamela Gidley also hopped her chair across the room in "Strange Luck", prior to D.B. Sweeney awakening and carrying her chair OTS. Megan Gallagher in "Blind Obsession". |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday February 18 08:00:39 2003 Re: Chair ties |
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> My favourite chair ties DID scenes: > 7. Avenger and another movie (Gun in front of DID) I liked the Avengers chair tie with Linda Thorson sitting indian stile in the seat and then dragged away.They always found away to make the most common scenes a little special. > > Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? Terri Hatchers scene in one of the Lois and Clark episodes in a clock tower. Kerri Russell in Honey I Blew Up The Kid. She picks up the chair and runs off. Some others I think are great are Barbara Hersey from Kung Fu. Miles of rope holding her in place. Brigette Lin in Police Story. Some of the best rope work I've ever seen in a mainstream film. Khandi Alexander in Terminal.Great Stuggling. And what would have been the greatest chair tie of all time if putz #1 didn't stop putz #2 from gagging the lady. Cameron Diaz in Head Above Water.At least we got that one quick look of the guy holding a blue cloth in cleave gag position. |
| Mark C |
| Tuesday February 18 08:04:44 2003 Re: Chair ties |
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> Some others I think are great are Almost forgot Jenny McCarthy on MTV! |
| Mark C |
| Tuesday February 18 09:11:41 2003 Re: Chair Ties--Wonder Woman! |
| You make some good points there! Does any one remember when Wonder Woman got KOed by sleeping gas in the "Baroness Von Gunther" episode? You see the bad guy come up to her unconscious form,chains in hand,then the scene stops. (Aaarrgghh!) The next time you see her,she is already awake and chained in a chair. While I certainly appreciate the sight of the lovely Ms. Carter in any type of bondage,I always felt she just looked a bit too comfy in this scene. Contrast this to the much better scenes in the "Formula 407" and "Murderous Missile" episodes,where we actually get to see her unconscious while in bondage;then we are treated to some very good wake-up scenes! Plus in the "Missile" episode,she actually looked to be in some discomfort as she woozily collects her senses while she listens to the villain's mad rantings!
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| gytalf2000 |
| Tuesday February 18 09:21:24 2003 Farscape, this Friday... |
| Hmm... I wonder what the Scarrans are doing to Aeryn Sun (who they captured two episodes ago) on their secret base... Hmm...
The episode aired in the UK last night & caps are already posted! It looks like Friday the 21st will be *SciFi Channel Night*! ...A DiD hat trick: Farscape, Stargate SG-1, *&* Tracker! :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Tuesday February 18 09:34:10 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > What's to discuss about another scene of a damsel tied to a chair by her wrists?
Volume. 9 out of 15 episodes seems an impressive average. |
| Bob |
| Tuesday February 18 09:39:31 2003 Re: She Spies |
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> > What's to discuss about another scene of a damsel tied > to a chair by her wrists? > > Volume. 9 out of 15 episodes seems an impressive average. This page mostly has the same people posting all the time and they're pretty much all gag fans.If more of the useualy silent readers would contribute I'm sure other types of scenes would get discussed. |
| Mark C |
| Tuesday February 18 09:40:21 2003 General Hospital potential scene for Carly |
| I just finished watching the snowstorm-delayed ABC soaps from yesterday (no, the @*&#$%! local network did not air OLTL but that's a different rant). At the end of General Hospital Carly was passing out on a bed in a hotel room with a man who had slipped something into her drink at the beginning of the episode. Previews for today's episode did not show her, but it did show Sonny (her husband) shoving a gun at a guy's temple and demanding to know where his wife is. So maybe Carly will be b&g today. |
| Morton |
| Tuesday February 18 10:34:41 2003 Re: Chair ties |
| > My favourite chair ties DID scenes:
> > Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? > The ultimate one is Ally Sheedy in 'Deadly Lessons'. |
| Tuesday February 18 11:32:35 2003 Devil Eye :Hong Kong movie |
| Any info on this flick? Interesting cover. |
| http://www.hkdvdstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=1025 |
| Tuesday February 18 12:01:31 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > > What's to discuss about another scene of a damsel tied
> to a chair by her wrists? > > Volume. 9 out of 15 episodes seems an impressive average. Well, you're right, at 60 percent DiD eps, She Spies is almost double the highest percentage series I've loked at, which is Xena at 33 percent, followed by The Girl From UNCLE at 31 percent and Avengers at 29 percent. Of course, this is a relatively small sample compared to Avengers and Xena, though UNCLE didn't have a lot more eps than She Spies has now. Sure hope She Spies gets picked up for another season or ten and continues in the same vein. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 18 12:18:32 2003 Re: Most desired damsel |
| > Yack, I hate Poser. The characters look like they're made
> out of clay, at best. Maybe if they cel-shaded them, and > made them look like cartoon drawings, or found some other > unique lighting scheme (such as to make them look like > paintings), I'd think they looked better. I agree that Poser has its limits. I like they way Poser is rendered, but I don't like the way elbows and knees are articulated in some poses -- they just don't look right in some cases. That said, Poser has a huge installed base of artists who are getting down and dirty with the software (in every respect) to bring their fantasies to life via Poser. They've even got third party firms coming up with software that piggybacks onto Poser, like EasyPose which makes it easier to wrap ropes and chains around figures. And Poser or one of those third party firms -- I forget which -- is developing a technique for mapping photos of faces onto the default wireframe models that Poser provides. Because it's a communal kind of thing, I wouldn't be suprised to see Poser surpass what those high-end graphics stations with render farms can do someday soon. That base of artist/users and software developers is a huge advantage over the rest of the 3D modelling crowd. So, yeah, I'd like to see Voluptuous Vicky in a DiD film, because it'll mean everybody will have the tools to make full DiD films with Poser, including the crowd down at Thralldom.org. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 18 13:50:33 2003 General Hospital - blindfold scene |
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Just caught the end of a General Hospital preview commercial--all I saw was a woman in a bandana blindfold, shouting. (All I saw was her face, so I can't provide any other info--sorry!) This could begin as early as this afternoon, so let's get those VCRs rolling... |
| Jeb |
| Tuesday February 18 13:57:50 2003 Re: General Hospital - blindfold scene |
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> Just caught the end of a General Hospital preview > commercial--all I saw was a woman in a bandana blindfold, > shouting. (All I saw was her face, so I can't provide > any other info--sorry!) This could begin as early as > this afternoon, so let's get those VCRs rolling... I just saw the same preview. Courtney (Alicia Willis) is going to be abducted this week. She was shown getting handgagged from behind, then two different views of her blindfolded (and presumably with hands tied behind her back based on her shoulder position). And on AMC, the bad guy and girl who were after Maria (Eva LaRue) were both just shot so I guess that's the end of that storyline. |
| chubby |
| Tuesday February 18 13:59:41 2003 Re: Chair ties |
| There's a Simon & Simon episode featuring 'chair hopping'
-hands behind, red cleave gag as I recall, but short. |
| Dario Pula |
| Tuesday February 18 14:18:59 2003 West Coast Alert |
| On O.L.T.L. Natalie is shown b/g at about the 14 minute mark.
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| DL |
| Tuesday February 18 14:21:32 2003 AMC Coup |
| For everyone out there, the lovely redhead Natalie has effectively been cleave-gagged by the malicious Mitch on todays ep...the gag is off, for now...stay tuned... |
| Topper |
| Tuesday February 18 14:22:04 2003 OLTL |
| Natalie is cleave-gagged with a black cloth right now!! It looks like the exact same one used to gag Blair. Not that I'm complaining but don't they have anything else in the props department to use? :) |
| "Original" Bill |
| Tuesday February 18 14:23:08 2003 Re: AMC Coup |
| > For everyone out there, the lovely redhead Natalie has
> effectively been cleave-gagged by the malicious Mitch on > todays ep...the gag is off, for now...stay tuned... Sorry, folks,OLTL is the soap in question...got a little excited...*giggle* |
| Topper |
| Tuesday February 18 14:25:33 2003 OLTL delivers again |
| "Natalie" (I think that's her name) was shown being shoved into a room hands tied in front, tightly cleave-gagged. It was brief but good, with some attempted screaming on her part. It's in the first 15 minutes.
I'm a little bummed that I missed yesterday's bit with Blair; everything was wall-to-wall snow coverage around here, and they pre-empted EVERYTHING. Any caps or a clip out there? |
| DAK |
| Tuesday February 18 14:26:02 2003 Re: Most desired damsel |
| > That said, Poser has a huge installed base of artists who
> are getting down and dirty with the software (in every > respect) to bring their fantasies to life via Poser. > They've even got third party firms coming up with > software that piggybacks onto Poser, like EasyPose which > makes it easier to wrap ropes and chains around figures. > And Poser or one of those third party firms -- I forget > which -- is developing a technique for mapping photos of > faces onto the default wireframe models that Poser > provides. > If Poser could make more realistic looking people, or people who look convincingly like cartoon drawings or paintings, then I'd be thrilled with it. As it is, I prefer even cartoon drawings to regular 3D. An example of what I mean by turning 3D into a cartoon look is here: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/cel-before-after.jpg On the left you see traditional 3D. On the right, you see the same 3D image with special effects applied to look like a cartoon drawing. That character is one of the male heroes from the game Jet Grind Radio, which happens to have a rather attractive female goth character in it as one of the heroes. I probably wouldn't have even considered the female character attractive if she'd been rendered in traditional 3D. But as a cartoon, she looks striking. Too bad I don't have a picture of her so I can show what I mean. EasyPose sounds great. I've seen cheesy looking ropes in videogames (and because of their graphics styles, they did nothing for me anyway), in which the ropes were clearly separated from the person's body. This should make the job easier, and overall make the heroes interact with their environments more. > Because it's a communal kind of thing, I wouldn't be > suprised to see Poser surpass what those high-end > graphics stations with render farms can do someday soon. > That base of artist/users and software developers is a > huge advantage over the rest of the 3D modelling crowd. > Maybe so. I've heard amazing things about free software these days. That their user community adds on new features and makes them superior to the stuff we have to pay for. I wonder if they can add features onto Poser to make it either more realistic (or less, as in the styles I mentioned above), or easier to use. There are programs out there that can supposedly model a realistic human face based on a collection of "face parts" - noses, mouths, eyes, etc. In fact, one such program does exist, named Faces, but it's not for 3D rendering. In fact, it was originally created for cops to use to identify criminals (the victim picks the correct nose (no pun intended), mouth, eyes, hairstyle, etc, to make an accurate portrayal of the criminal). What I'd like to see is a program that can render a real looking person, and you could choose the different settings, skin color, facial features, etc. The closest I've seen to something like that is the character creation in Phantasy Star Online, believe it or not. It actually let you edit height, weight (both visible on your character), skin color, hair color, face (from several types, but not facial features individually), and a few other settings. Hopefully such rendering will be something used for its own sake, and not just to differentiate characters in online games. > So, yeah, I'd like to see Voluptuous Vicky in a DiD film, > because it'll mean everybody will have the tools to make > full DiD films with Poser, including the crowd down at Thralldom.org. Good point. I hope that if that does happen, we will later reach the point at which such films will concentrate more on plot than on their main attraction! For that matter, if independent artists are making films on digital cameras, maybe there will later be some making films with 3D rendering programs? Hopefully a few such independent films could be picked up for distribution. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Tuesday February 18 14:26:26 2003 Re: OLTL |
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..don't they have anything else in the props department to use? :) Hey, at least it wasn't the stuff gag with Blair... |
| Tuesday February 18 14:29:12 2003 OLTL...Damn! |
| So I logged on, didn't see any messages re OLTL, wrote mine (all of a minute and a half) and reloaded the page. All of a sudden I was fourth accross the finish line!
I gotta learn to be quicker on the draw. :) |
| DAK |
| Tuesday February 18 14:53:07 2003 Re: OLTL...Damn! |
| > So I logged on, didn't see any messages re OLTL, wrote
> mine (all of a minute and a half) and reloaded the page. > All of a sudden I was fourth accross the finish line! How about being first to post caps! |
| JH |
| Tuesday February 18 14:59:41 2003 Re: OLTL |
| > Hey, at least it wasn't the stuff gag with Blair...
Or with Natlie |
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| Tuesday February 18 15:05:42 2003 Re: OLTL |
| Will Natalie's scene continue into tomorrow?
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| Tuesday February 18 15:26:49 2003 Re: OLTL...Damn! |
| > How about being first to post caps!
SoapNet pulled through when the ABC locals did not - so I just posted and a vidclip of Blair's (brief) gag scene. I should get something up from Natalie's plight soon (if the power holds out...) |
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| Bindher |
| bindher@bindher.com |
| http://www.bindher.com |
| Tuesday February 18 15:41:05 2003 One Life to Live VCR Alert |
| I just saw the coming attractions for tomorrow's (2/19/03) episode of One Life to Live and it looks like there's going to be a Hands Over Head scene. |
| perl |
| reckonwith69@hotmail.com |
| http://www.mte.com/perl/b |
| Tuesday February 18 15:44:57 2003 Re: General Hospital - blindfold scene |
| > I just saw the same preview. Courtney (Alicia Willis) is
> going to be abducted this week. Alicia is pretty cute so hopefully there'll be a gag on General Hospital as well. |
| FG |
| Tuesday February 18 15:45:33 2003 Re: General Hospital - blindfold scene |
| > Alicia is pretty cute so hopefully there'll be a gag on
> General Hospital as well. Very cute |
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| Tuesday February 18 15:49:07 2003 Re: General Hospital - blindfold scene |
| > Alicia is pretty cute so hopefully there'll be a gag
Hopefully it'll also be a thicker gag than the one she had on Another World |
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| Roscoe |
| Tuesday February 18 16:09:29 2003 Re: OLTL...Damn! |
| > > How about being first to post caps!
> > SoapNet pulled through when the ABC locals did not - Thanks! Does this mean that it won't be on Soapnet at 9 EST? |
| JH |
| Tuesday February 18 16:52:43 2003 Re: OLTL...Damn! |
| > > How about being first to post caps.
WOW , thanks Bindher !!! This has to be one of the best scenes since Charisma Carpenter in " parting gifts" on Angel. |
| Alex Bond |
| Tuesday February 18 16:57:31 2003 OLTL |
| What kind of twisted inhuman monster would kidnap a World Class Celtic Cutie like Natalie &... &... DYE HER HAIR BLONDE??? AAAAARGH!!! |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Tuesday February 18 17:09:48 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| > How realistically they are tied up is pretty low on the
> priority list for a director. There is little need for a > realistic tie up if a symbolic one (e.g. hands tied in > front) will convey the same message to the audience. I never used the word "realistic" in my post, I used the word "dramatic." I don't think chair ties work well dramatically. I don't think comfy damsels are a good idea. It's interesting to note that the chair ties listed on this page are mostly exceptions to the rule: "Last Innocent Man" with it's ultra-tight cleave gag, or "Intensity" with hte damsel hurling herself down the stairs while chained to a chair in order to get free of a chair tie, etc. (My candidates would include Xena and Callisto's incredibly stringent chair ties in whichever ep it was that had them strapped into a total bondage chair, and "Cyclone" with Heather Thomas exposing a camel toe in tight jeans while writhing wildly under electric shock torture.) But most of the time the damsel just sits there and looks grateful when released. Not very dramatic compared to more uncomfortable-looking chair ties. Spreadeagle, hogties, AOH bondage, all provide better opportunities for writhing. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 18 17:14:24 2003 Re: One Life to Live VCR Alert |
| > I just saw the coming attractions for tomorrow's
> (2/19/03) episode of One Life to Live and it looks like > there's going to be a Hands Over Head scene. Let's see ... semi-nude standing hands behind chair tie with hands behind hands tied in front with stuff gag hands tied in front and ankles tied on love seat hands tied in front with cleave gag and now an AOH coming up in the next ep. Are they trying to set some kind of record or what? |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 18 17:24:59 2003 Heavy metal damsel |
| Fans of AOH and heavy metal damsels might enjoy the brief but dramatic scene at the beginning of last week's "Hack." Don't think it got much notice on this page.
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| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 18 17:35:12 2003 Re: OLTL delivers again |
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CAPS! WHERE ARE THE CAPS FOR THESE SOAPS?! > |
| Tuesday February 18 17:44:25 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
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> Also, what about "hands behind chair" scenes? Are they > becoming less common? I still find them pretty dramatic >myself. Unfortunately they are often "actress holds hands behind her and pretends to be tied" scenes. I think hands front and hands to chair arms scenes are often the director's way of arranging it so the actress will actually be tied. |
| Paul |
| Tuesday February 18 17:46:20 2003 Re: Chair ties |
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> Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? How about "The Gazebo," with Debbie Reynolds tipping the chair over and dialing the phone with her nose? |
| Paul |
| Tuesday February 18 17:53:42 2003 Re: Heavy metal damsel |
| > Fans of AOH and heavy metal damsels might enjoy the brief
> but dramatic scene at the beginning of last week's > "Hack." Don't think it got much notice on this page. That's from "John Doe," actually. There was a bit of discussion. |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 18 18:02:03 2003 Re: OLTL |
| > What kind of twisted inhuman monster would kidnap a World
> Class Celtic Cutie like Natalie &... &... DYE HER HAIR > BLONDE??? AAAAARGH!!! When Mitch came back he was originally after Jessica, so I think that's why he's dying her hair blond. I agree. Stupid. Now he's grabbing everybody else except Jessica. Just when it gets good, Erin Torpey bails out and is replaced by a lookalike who weighs about 90 pounds and can't act. She's trying real hard with her emotional looks every time she delivers a line. But why they went for a lookalike is beyond me. That just reminds everyone the original isn't there. When they replaced Tina, they went with blondes so as not to confuse with Andrea Evans. |
| Brian W. |
| Tuesday February 18 18:18:05 2003 Re: Chair ties |
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> > Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping? > I can recollect two memorable chair tie scenes in mainstream media offhand. The first one is Kate Jackson's scene in "Charlie's Angels", in which a technically gifted arsonist has bound and gagged her to an office chair. She struggles very energetically, moving all over the office while tied to the chair with phone cord and gagged with black tape. The second one is from the movie "Ulee's Gold", im which a mother and her two daughters are bound and gagged with duct tape. All three are tied to chairs; one of the daughters is the hottie Jessica Biel, and she struggles so energetically, her chair falls over. |
| Hadji |
| Tuesday February 18 18:44:34 2003 Re: Deleted post report |
| > Moderator, you don't have to be that exact all of the time. Why don't you just relax and have some fun?
This is a followup to Brian's deleted post rulings, so I think it's on topic. Sorry if it isn't. First, I think Brian is moderating this site more than fairly. He's doner a great job, and some of us DO support him. Im so sick of seeing the same people constantly ignoring his rulings and posting about Gilligans Island, Superman artists, Anything Goes, and tons of blatantly off topic material with increasing frequency. Then they cry about how he didn't have to delete it even when they ADMIT it's off topic. What do you want from him? Apologies for doing his job efficently? But I want to go on record as being the first one to say that Brian is being far too lenient and would like to see him crack down harder on some of the repeat offenders. They're being allowed to get away with it, plain and simple. |
| Anubis |
| Tuesday February 18 18:55:04 2003 OLTL |
| As I said last week, Mitch Laurence for President!!
Three cheers for Mitch!! |
| "Original" Bill |
| Tuesday February 18 19:47:15 2003 Victoria Principal |
| Has Victoria Principal ever have a scene other than Blind Witness? Or has she ever been at least handgagged? |
| GagMeWithASpoon |
| Tuesday February 18 19:58:08 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| > I never used the word "realistic" in my post, I used the
> word "dramatic." I don't think chair ties work well > dramatically. I don't think comfy damsels are a good > idea. > I agree that the "arms tied to chair arms" thing isn't the most dramatic thing in the world. Heck, unless the ropes were neon or something, it can be hard to even notice their existance! I tend to think of hands being tied behind the chairback when I hear "chair tie". In fact, I picture the hands tied to each other, rather than each hand merely tied separately to the chairback. I think that hands tied behind the chair can give a feeling of helplessness and discomfort. But apparently we don't see as much of that these days. > It's interesting to note that the chair ties listed on > this page are mostly exceptions to the rule: "Last > Innocent Man" with it's ultra-tight cleave gag, or > "Intensity" with hte damsel hurling herself down the > stairs while chained to a chair in order to get free of a > chair tie, etc. > Good point. I think that fact shows that chair ties can leave a dramatic impact. I had seen them as a cliche myself simply because I saw so many growing up. It certainly is practical - chairs are everywhere, and a would-be abductor doesn't have to go far to keep the victim in place. But most of the chair ties I was exposed to on TV looked uncomfortable. Then again, most of the ones I'd seen growing up were in cartoons, and cartoons tend to use more stringent ropework anyway, considering that there is no actress to complain about discomfort! |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Tuesday February 18 20:23:45 2003 Re: Heavy metal damsel |
| > That's from "John Doe," actually. There was a bit of
> discussion. Oh yeah, you're right. Natural mistake. The names are so similar. And one's about an ex-cop who drives a cab, while the other is about a civilian who knows everything but who he is. YOu can see why I made the mistake... |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 18 20:37:38 2003 Re: OLTL |
| > Natalie is cleave-gagged with a black cloth right now!!
> It looks like the exact same one used to gag Blair. Not > that I'm complaining but don't they have anything else in > the props department to use? :) Yeah, how 'bout some nice grey duct tape?? We haven't seen any of that in awhile! :-) Myself, I'm just thrilled that cleave gags seem to be making an appearance again! >>As I said last week, Mitch Laurence for President!! >>Three cheers for Mitch!! I'm beginning to be inclined to agree....ol' Mitch is turning out to be one cool guy! And he sure seems to like them ladies gagged, even if he does tend to ungag 'em pretty quickly! (Well I guess that's why God invented Freeze-Frame & Slo-Mo!) |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Tuesday February 18 20:49:07 2003 Re: Deleted post report |
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> You did not delete the first 2 posts 2 hours ago, why > bother now? I have explained several times on these pages as to why Joe M. is off-topic. You are back to Tapemaster status, you no longer are entitled to explanations. One more slipup and you are gone. GOT IT? |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday February 18 21:01:12 2003 Re: Chair ties |
| > > 2. Sledgehammer (broken chair)
> One of my favorite scenes from the late 1980s. Great > scene with Anne-Marie Martin, who I thought was > incredibly sexy in that show. One of the tightest > cleave-gags I've ever seen. Plus, her outfit was nice: > white skirt, pinkish top, plus a good knockout scene. > Ditto here! Anne-Marie Martin had absolutely the BEST legs of any actress from around that period. In Sledgehammer90% of the time she would wear short tight skirts and high heels. Part from being an fairly amusing show, the main reason I would tune in was for her legs plus the hope she would get a good DiD scene at some point. I was half dreading that if a scene popped up she would be wearing pants, but the wardrobe dept. came through for us, for once! Was also nice that she was kidnapped and carried off over-the-shoulder by another woman. |
| Tuesday February 18 21:05:31 2003 Re: Chair ties |
| > Any scene with "jumping chair" / chair hopping?
Was more chair "jiggling/wobbling" I guess, but don't forget Liz Hurley with short pink skirt in My Favourite Martian. |
| Tuesday February 18 21:26:53 2003 Chair ties: Anne-Marie Martin |
| > > 2. Sledgehammer
Great scene with Anne-Marie Martin, who I thought was incredibly sexy in that show. One of the tightest cleave-gags I've ever seen. Plus, her outfit was nice: white skirt, pinkish top, plus a good knockout scene. > > >...Anne-Marie Martin had absolutely the BEST legs of any actress from around that period. ---------- I seem to recall reading that Martin (previously married to Michael Crichton, according to IMDB.com) was a dancer before becoming an actress. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday February 18 21:40:15 2003 OLTL - Natalie's scenes today |
| Were there any shots of Natalie's bound wrists when Mitch had her at the sink to dye her hair? My local channel was running a banner showing school closings during the show, but not the commercials, so I couldn't tell if they had shrunk the screen or if it covered up her bound hands. Thanks a lot! |
| Chris |
| Tuesday February 18 22:16:24 2003 Re: OLTL - Natalie's scenes today |
| > Were there any shots of Natalie's bound wrists when Mitch
> had her at the sink to dye her hair? No, they did not show her wrists. I know what you mean about some stations shrinking the screen image to provide scool closings, etc. The times that I have seen it done, the entire image is just made smaller. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday February 18 22:58:23 2003 Elisha on 24? |
| Kim (in an amazing wife beater tank top) is locked in a bomb shelter with wacky Kevin Dillon. Next week she pulls a knife on him to escape. Any spoilers out there who know if this is going anywhere? |
| Tuesday February 18 23:23:38 2003 Cool ! Certain posters here are given a rank |
| I see there's such a thing as " Tapemaster status " set by the Moderator. No doubt, it means " You're on your last warning, buster ? "
What's Per's status ? |
| C63 |
| Tuesday February 18 23:54:20 2003 Re: Chair ties: Anne-Marie Martin any caps |
| Sledgehammer
Great scene with Anne-Marie Martin, who I thought was incredibly sexy in that show. One of the tightest cleave-gags I've ever seen. P actress from around that period. This sounds great ! Does anyone have any caps ? thanks |
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