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| Tuesday February 25 00:59:11 2003 Deleted post report |
| Title: Boston Fox Station and Sara from Joe Millionaire
Poster: Malcolm, Eliot Shear Reason: As I've posted at least a dozen times over the past weeks, this is off-topic. Real-life stuff belongs on Anything Goes. |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday February 25 08:04:55 2003 I approve |
| Well, not so much of the putzes or lack of a gag -- but otherwise, I think this episode of Sealab 2021 illustrates an important principle which all directors should adopt immediately: if you have to have putzes, at least make sure to use MORE ROPE ON THE DAMSEL. (See that guy in the first cap who is mummified for no particular reason? He literally doesn't last a minute.)
BTW, this is the "Bizarro" episode that aired Sunday night on Comedy Central. Sorry I never thought to look for this show in the DB, or I'd have posted an alert -- but I'll redeem myself shortly with a clip. |
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| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 25 08:23:13 2003 Re: I approve |
| > I think this episode of Sealab 2021
> illustrates an important principle which all directors > should adopt immediately: if you have to have putzes, at > least make sure to use MORE ROPE ON THE DAMSEL. Apparently, the damsel is the only one the bad guys are afraid will run away. Plus, of course, they made sure here breasts didn't make an escape. Very nice. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 25 08:38:01 2003 Re: Classics |
| Different people have different standards for classics. To my mind, a classic is a film that has scenes that advance the extent of bondage in mainstream media in any of several ways. But I'd say the TAU standard is "films or shows with one or more extensive bondage scenes."
I'd guess Pat Preists' scenes in "The Thing With Two Heads" would be a classic by this standard. It doesn't really do anything new in terms of bondage, but its scenes are handled so well, and there are so may of them, that it's a classic, alrighty. And proof that the quality of a movie has little to do with the quality of its scenes. The Incredible Bondage Chair scene featuring Xena and Callisto from the Xena TV series also qualifies I think. The "Over the Wire" scene would probably be the Skinamax classic. The scene from Joy in Africa might be, too, if I can ever get my hands on it. Kiss the Girls Goodbye might well be a classic -- huge honking leather gag with head harness, worn for much of the movies. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 25 08:56:07 2003 Re: Future Classic Scenes |
| >>>Obviously, many TV scenes can become future "Holy Grails" as the years go by. Are there any scenes of late that you might consider both?<<<
One man's BTDT (Been there, done that) is another's "Holy Grail". Therefore, great TV scenes I've looked at hundreds of times like Yvonne Craig's Man From Uncle, or even something as recent as Charisma Carpenter's Angel-Parting Gifts scene may well be someone else's "Holy Grail" simply by the fact they've never seen it, for whatever reason. Youth, lack of knowledge, or maybe they're from Germany or Japan or something. And, don't forget about all the tremendous Soap scenes from the 80's and early 90's. Right now, there's a handful of foreign scenes that I would say rank as my Holy Grails, yet to someone in Italy, they're likely nothing but old news. |
| The Greyman |
| vincegrey@thegreyman.net |
| http://www.thegreyman.net |
| Tuesday February 25 11:51:03 2003 An Article By The Greyman |
| I was going to post this exclusively on my web site in the Opinion section, but then I decided that while it would be seen and read by many, the opportunity for discussion would be limited. Therefore I’m posting it on Brian’s page where others can join in.
I was looking at a site that listed the most popular TV shows of every decade. That got me to thinking about which TV shows would rank as our (D-i-D fans) most beloved and also most disappointing. Here are mine: 1950’s Decade D-i-D rating: B+ With sitcoms and westerns dominating, housewives (Lucy, Margie, Joan) wound up gagged, as did a number of fillies. Unfortunately, OYM gags dominated as well, with only the occasional apple or strip of tape to break the monotony. Also, a lot of TV was still live and it’s likely we’ve missed quite few scenes forever. THE BEST- Tie between The Adventures Of Superman and Sky King. Superman had more scenes overall, but Penny from SK was cuter and her gag scenes much better. MOST DISAPPOINTING- The Lone Ranger. All those years and all those wasted opportunities. Hell, Tonto got bound & gagged more than the infrequent female damsels did. 1960’s Decade D-i-D rating: A The golden age. High heels, tight dresses, fantasy and spies all made for some killer damsel fare. Gags were incredibly varied; color was coming in, and look out for the British invasion. THE BEST- Tie between The Man From Uncle and The Avengers. Avengers was more productive in quantity, but nothing they did matched Yvonne Craig’s scene. Honorable Mention- Batman. MOST DISAPPOINTING- Wild, Wild West. This one should have produced a scene nearly every week and simply… didn’t. Dishonorable Mention- Bonanza, Get Smart. (A few scenes, but should have been MUCH better.) 1970’s Decade D-i-D rating: C- Overall, the worst decade by far. Fantasy TV was out for the most part and a slew of bondage-free sitcoms and drama’s dominated. Dreary decade. THE BEST- Wonder Woman. Enough said, here. MOST DISAPPOINTING- Charlie’s Angels. Tease, tease, rarely to please. What a waste. Dishonorable Mention- Too many to list. 1980’s Decade D-i-D rating: A- Things got a lot better on primetime TV but what really brings the grade up were the soaps. In the 80’s a lot of soaps went to an hour and saw their budgets increased. They needed something to fill up all that time so look out soap-babes, here come the ropes and gags! THE BEST- The Soaps. Honorable mention- T.J. Hooker; Knight Rider; Simon & Simon; Moonlighting. Quantity and quality, these had it all. MOST DISAPPOINTING- Tie between The A-Team and Dukes Of Hazzard. Dishonorable mention- The Greatest American Hero & Fall Guy. All of these produced scenes, but at a far, far lower rate than they should have. 1990’s Decade D-i-D rating: B The soaps continued to produce (Especially in the early-to-mid 90’s) and another group found their way into our lives: foreign scenes. Suddenly, Asian and European scenes were everywhere, and some strange phenomenon known as Mexican soaps took up the D-i-D banner where the American soaps left off. Primetime TV? A mixed bag for the most part but one ominous trend began to emerge: Loose duct-tape gags. THE BEST- Tie between Lois & Clark and The X-Files. Honorable mention- Walker, Texas Ranger; Melrose Place; Mexican Soaps; Flipper; Zorro. MOST DISAPPOINTING- Tie between Silk Stalkings and Hercules. (Oh, all the video tape I wasted on these two!) Dishonorable mention- Xena (I’m still waiting far that killer Xena/Gabby bound and gagged combo scene.); Saved By The Bell (All those opportunities and nothing?) The New Millennium: 2000 and Beyond- What’s next? So far this decade has been a mixture of the excellent (Angel; Lost World), the frustrating (Buffy; Dark Angel; Alias), the mundane (Another nondescript, loose-ass duct tape gag. Yawn…), and worst all, the repulsive (Everywhere you turn, more gagged putzes. Yack!) More bad news: Syndicated action shows, which used to be plentiful, are down. Is there hope? Maybe. The Soaps have definitely picked up. As Buffy winds down, things might turn our way, finally. I think it’s only a matter of time before Tiffany gets a good scene on Fast Lane, and the success of She Spies may well spawn a number of wannabes next year. What do you think? Opinions are welcome. |
| The Greyman |
| vincegrey@thegreyman.net |
| http://www.thegreyman.net |
| Tuesday February 25 12:20:15 2003 Re: I approve |
| > BTW, this is the "Bizarro" episode that aired Sunday
> night on Comedy Central. WTF, Comady Central? O_o |
| Zorak |
| Tuesday February 25 12:33:32 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > 1970’s
> Decade D-i-D rating: C- > Overall, the worst decade by far. Fantasy TV was out for > the most part and a slew of bondage-free sitcoms and > drama’s dominated. Dreary decade. > > THE BEST- Wonder Woman. Enough said, here. > Vegas was better than WW (especially with the 'Lost Women' episode). Steve Trevor was B&G more times than Diana Prince . If 'Wonder Woman' had been gagged, a different story. |
| Tuesday February 25 12:50:55 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > MOST DISAPPOINTING- The Lone Ranger. All those years and
> all those wasted opportunities. Hell, Tonto got bound & > gagged more than the infrequent female damsels did. Yeah, I always wondered about the Lone Ranger and Tonto, riding around the West and finding so few damsels, when historically the place was chock-full of "dance hall girls" as they called 'em. And they weren't all that interested in those damsels they did find. Well, it WAS a kiddie show. > THE BEST- Tie between The Man From Uncle and The > Avengers. Wasn't even close, Avenger by a mile. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. never had any guest half as sexy as Diana Rigg, and yes, that DOES include Yvonne Craig. > MOST DISAPPOINTING- Wild, Wild West. This one should have > produced a scene nearly every week and simply… didn’t. Once again, a pair of guys wander around the West and can't find damsels. Makes you wonder. > Dishonorable Mention- Bonanza, Get Smart. (A few scenes, > but should have been MUCH better.) Dunno about Bonanza, but Get Smart -- yeah, you'd think a world-class degenerate like Buck Henry woulda played a little heartier with the spy take on DiD scenes. > 1970’s > Decade D-i-D rating: C- I'm assuming we're only talking TV here. There WERE the Ginger movies (places hat over heart, looks skyward). > 1980’s > Decade D-i-D rating: A- Mmm, if you like soap bondage, I guess. > Dishonorable mention- Xena (I’m still waiting far that > killer Xena/Gabby bound and gagged combo scene.); Xena? Dishonorable mention? With the bondage chair and the chain hogtie and the mummy wrap and just a whole lotta other stuff including a couple nice gags for Gabby Xena? Man, do we ever live on different planets! I'd make it among the best if not the best. I'd also put Howard Stern in for that thong bondage tickling thing they do, much as I loathe the show itself. > The New Millennium: 2000 and Beyond- What’s next? > > So far this decade has been a mixture of the excellent > (Angel; Lost World), the frustrating (Buffy; Dark Angel; > Alias), the mundane (Another nondescript, loose-ass duct > tape gag. Yawn…), and worst all, the repulsive > (Everywhere you turn, more gagged putzes. Yack!) > > More bad news: Syndicated action shows, which used to be > plentiful, are down. > > Is there hope? Maybe. I think there's reason for hope, if you follow the notion that TV generally lags behind movies culturally. There have been a LOT of movies recently with strong bondage imagery and themes -- Birthday Girl, Secretary, Killing Me Softly, Pretty When You Cry, etc. -- and TV may eventually "get" this. > I think it’s only a matter of time before Tiffany gets a good scene on Fast Lane, I dunno about that. Seems to me some major opps have been wasted already. > and the success of She Spies may well spawn a number of wannabes next year. What kind of info do you have on their success. All I have heard is that their ratings are growing from week to week, but I dunno if they're growing very fast, and they still seem to be stuck in syndication hell as far as timeslots go. Would be interesting to see if any TV minds link that ratings success with their incredibly frequent use of DiD scenes. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday February 25 14:18:43 2003 Re: I approve |
| > > BTW, this is the "Bizarro" episode that aired Sunday
> > night on Comedy Central. > WTF, Comady Central? O_o Well, it is, after all, a comedy. (And a particularly sick and twisted one at that.) You may be thinking of Sealab 2020, the lame seventies cartoon which served as its inspiration. |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 25 14:22:21 2003 Re: I approve |
| >
> Well, it is, after all, a comedy. (And a particularly > sick and twisted one at that.) > > You may be thinking of Sealab 2020, the lame seventies > cartoon which served as its inspiration. > I think the "Zorak" signature implies the poster's intent was to point out that this airs on CARTOON NETWORK. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Tuesday February 25 14:28:38 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > {Snip}
> 1950’s > 1960’s > 1970’s > 1980’s > 1990’s > > The New Millennium: 2000 and [BED, BATH &] Beyond- What’s next? > > So far this decade has been a mixture of the excellent > (Angel; Lost World), the frustrating (Buffy; Dark Angel; > Alias), the mundane (Another nondescript, loose-ass duct > tape gag. Yawn…), and worst all, the repulsive > (Everywhere you turn, more gagged putzes. Yack!) > > More bad news: Syndicated action shows, which used to be > plentiful, are down. > > Is there hope? Maybe. The Soaps have definitely picked > up. As Buffy winds down, things might turn our way, > finally. I think it’s only a matter of time before Tiffany gets a good scene on Fast Lane, and the success of She Spies may well spawn a number of wannabes next year. What do you think? Opinions are welcome. ======= The past is past. (Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.) But seriously, The present & future interest me more. Mr. Moderator doesn't like it when we turn his sandbox into a Media Forum, but all the follows is leading to DiD's... so Brian, bear with me. We live in curious times. Technology & Show Business are out of sync & *Adjustments* are coming. The schedule is awash with "Reality Programming" for one simple reason: return-on-investment; yet... "traditional" action shows still get produced, then are given six weeks to achieve "hit" status... & are gone. This isn't new. It's happened to sitcoms since... forever. The network pilot system is dying, but it isn't dead yet. Syndicated shows are actually UP, but the picture is muddied by all the partnerships & mergers between the networks & studios. My guess is the future holds MORE stuff of the kind we like... once things shake out. Whatever the Information Age is maturing into, MORE CHOICE will be a dominant feature. ANYhoo... one thing I know: The Damsel-in-Distress is as old as literature itself & is not going away. Actresses will be B&G'd and used as Hero bait FOREVER! ...or at least 'til the next asteroid strike/mass extinction. :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Tuesday February 25 14:42:54 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > 1960’s
> Decade D-i-D rating: A > The golden age. > > THE BEST- Tie between The Man From Uncle and The > Avengers. Honorable > Mention- Batman. > It Takes a Thief deserves at least an Honorable Mention. > MOST DISAPPOINTING- Wild, Wild West. This one should have > produced a scene nearly every week and simply… didn’t. possibly the Most Disappointing show ever. Intense putz scenes nearly every week. > Dishonorable Mention- Bonanza, Get Smart. (A few scenes, > but should have been MUCH better.) > Also--The Girl From UNCLE (usually too loose, also so bad as to be difficult to watch) and maybe Honey West > 1970’s > Decade D-i-D rating: C- > Overall, the worst decade by far. > THE BEST- Wonder Woman. Enough said, here. > I would give McMillan and Wife an honourable mention. BJ and the Bear? Was that the seventies? > MOST DISAPPOINTING- Charlie’s Angels. Tease, tease, > rarely to please. What a waste. Dishonorable Mention- Too > many to list. > 1980’s > Decade D-i-D rating: A- > Things got a lot better on primetime TV but what really > brings the grade up were the soaps. > > THE BEST- The Soaps. Honorable mention- T.J. Hooker; > Knight Rider; Simon & Simon; Moonlighting. Quantity and > quality, these had it all. > Hart to Hart? I always liked it. > MOST DISAPPOINTING- Tie between The A-Team and Dukes Of > Hazzard. Dishonorable mention- The Greatest American Hero > & Fall Guy. All of these produced scenes, but at a far, > far lower rate than they should have. > The Fall Guy was fine. > 1990’s > Decade D-i-D rating: B > The soaps continued to produce (Especially in the > early-to-mid 90’s) and another group found their way into > our lives: foreign scenes. Suddenly, Asian and European > scenes were everywhere, and some strange phenomenon known > as Mexican soaps took up the > D-i-D banner where the American soaps left off. Primetime > TV? A mixed bag for the most part but one ominous trend > began to emerge: Loose duct-tape gags. > > THE BEST- Tie between Lois & Clark and The X-Files. > Honorable mention- Walker, Texas Ranger; Melrose Place; > Mexican Soaps; Flipper; Zorro. Was this the decade of those late night shows like Dangerous Curves and Sweating Bullets? I would maybe give USA network an honourable mention--Counterstrike, The Huntress.. > > MOST DISAPPOINTING- Tie between Silk Stalkings and > Hercules. (Oh, all the video tape I wasted on these two!) > Dishonorable mention- Xena (I’m still waiting far that > killer Xena/Gabby bound and gagged combo scene.); Saved > By The Bell (All those opportunities and nothing?) > I'd also give MTV a dishonourable mention--the most sexually liberated mainstream cable network has given us next to nothing besides one minor scene with Jenny McCarthy. > The New Millennium: 2000 and Beyond- What’s next? > > So far this decade has been a mixture of the excellent > (Angel; Lost World), the frustrating (Buffy; Dark Angel; > Alias), the mundane (Another nondescript, loose-ass duct > tape gag. Yawn…), and worst all, the repulsive > (Everywhere you turn, more gagged putzes. Yack!) > > Is there hope? Maybe. The Soaps have definitely picked > up. As Buffy winds down, things might turn our way, > finally. I think it’s only a matter of time before Tiffany gets a good scene on Fast Lane, and the success of She Spies may well spawn a number of wannabes next year. I don't see She Spies generating nearly enough excitement to spawn wannabees (although another Charlies Angels success might encourage similar shows). Still the possibility that reality TV game shows will produce something. |
| ss |
| Tuesday February 25 15:15:27 2003 Looking for these clips: |
| Opera aka Terror at the opera by D.Argento 2 clips
Whispers in the dark Pacific blue (Where a female gets hogtied) + more clips of dids hogtied !! and Stargate blond babe bound and tapegagged If you know where we can download these clips, please tell us! |
| Somebody important |
| Tuesday February 25 15:44:23 2003 Tyring to identify 70's TV scene |
| I'm trying to track down a scene that I recall having seen once many years ago; hoping someone here may have seen it.
I seem to think I saw it on "The Electric Company," but my memory of that point is not 100% clear. Pretty sure it was a show with a similar format. The scene in question was a woman singing on stage; I think there were back-up singers also. She's singing a song about glue that gets in a few cheap puns; "stuck on my favorite brand," etc. The "big" joke, however, is that she's "really" stuck; her rear is "glued" to the seat of a stool. Don't recall if she did the whole number standing, but she *is* standing at least part of the time, with the stool "attached." As I say, I only saw this once on TV, would have been late 70's or early 80's, I believe. As I said, I seem to keep thinking it was "Electric Company," although I continue to wrack my brain trying to think of what other program I could have been watching. Given the era and a TV show budget, I'm sure if I saw it again today I'd spot the "special effects" used, but would still like a second look. In any case, can anyone else out there remember this, or help me figure out just where/when this was? Thanks in advance. Zaphod |
| Zaphod Beeblebrox |
| Tuesday February 25 16:23:40 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > Hart to Hart? I always liked it.
> Hart To Hart? Where the producers thought Max the butler should be B&G often instead of Jennifer Hart? |
| Tuesday February 25 16:30:05 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > > THE BEST- Tie between Lois & Clark and The X-Files.
> > Honorable mention- Walker, Texas Ranger; Melrose Place; > > Mexican Soaps; Flipper; Zorro. Flipper had too much Payton Haas |
| Tuesday February 25 16:34:34 2003 Re: Tyring to identify 70's TV scene |
| > The scene in question was a woman singing on stage; I
> think there were back-up singers also. She's singing a > song about glue that gets in a few cheap puns; "stuck on > my favorite brand," etc. The "big" joke, however, is > that she's "really" stuck; her rear is "glued" to the > seat of a stool. Don't recall if she did the whole > number standing, but she *is* standing at least part of > the time, with the stool "attached." I'm pretty sure it *wasn't* The Electric Company--saw every episode. If you think it was something "educational," Sesame Street was about all there was with any production values. Or how about You Can't Do That on Television? |
| Paul |
| Tuesday February 25 16:36:47 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > With sitcoms and westerns dominating, housewives (Lucy,
> Margie, Joan) wound up gagged Gale Storm got gagged? When? (After all the stupid westerns I sat through hoping she'd have a scene...) |
| Paul |
| Tuesday February 25 16:47:51 2003 Re: Tyring to identify 70's TV scene |
| Hey Zaphod stop trying to track down scenes off Earth television and get back in the bedroom.
I like a man with TWO tougnes ;). |
| Trisha McMillan |
| Tuesday February 25 17:42:30 2003 By decades |
| A couple of points to The Greyman's piece:
Fall Guy: Not a disappointment for me or any other tennager growing up in the early 80s. Three full-treatment scenes for Heather Thomas and one for Mary Crosby. Add in the countless bikini shots of Heather and you've got a lot of material for a five-year run. Downside: All the gags were white cleaves (but thick) and no gag for Markie Post. Silk Stalkings: One of the all-time disappointments but the show, at least, was watchable, which makes it less disappointing. Seven seasons and one measly gag for Mitzi Kapture and no gag for Janet Gunn. But the awesome outfits they wore kept me watching. Where in the universe do female detectives dress like that? |
| Brian W. |
| Tuesday February 25 17:44:52 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| > Flipper had too much Payton Haas
Any male is nothing but a blur next to Jessica Alba. |
| Brian W. |
| Tuesday February 25 17:45:46 2003 Re: By decades |
| > Seven seasons and one measly gag for Mitzi
> Kapture and no gag for Janet Gunn. Incorrect. Janet Gunn WAS b/g'd in one ep. I know nothing about this subject and even I know that. |
| Norman Oklahoma |
| Tuesday February 25 17:47:41 2003 Re: By decades |
| > > Seven seasons and one measly gag for Mitzi
> > Kapture and no gag for Janet Gunn. > > Incorrect. Janet Gunn WAS b/g'd in one ep. I know > nothing about this subject and even I know that. On second thought, I think I have this mixed up with another series. Sorry, you are right. I TOLD you I know zip about this topic. ;-) |
| Norman Oklahoma |
| Tuesday February 25 18:02:47 2003 Chaos |
| Just posted info about this Japanese kidnapping flick (playing only in NYC?) on Movie Alerts. |
| Not Brian |
| Tuesday February 25 18:04:33 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
|
> > THE BEST- Tie between The Man From Uncle and The > > Avengers. > > Wasn't even close, Avenger by a mile. The Man from > U.N.C.L.E. never had any guest half as sexy as Diana > Rigg, and yes, that DOES include Yvonne Craig. > > It was an absolute pleasure to read Greyman's post (and subsequent followups)... everything good that BR's discussion page should be. Thanks for the time spent writing it. Don't know about grading whole decades and shows tho. To my thinking, it's such a "hit and miss" thing. As far as I recall, the **VERY** best TV scenes were of a **one hit wonder** nature... shows such as It Takes A Thief, The Rookies, Brackens World had one (or maybe two) great episode - would that make them a "hit"? Or a "miss"? As far as Avengers vs. Man From UNCLE, I'd agree with Avengers **winning by a mile**, but for far different reasons. IMO, Rigg wasn't that sexy (I like Thorson MUCH better, for that matter), but at least the bondage was good, sometimes great. IMO, the UNCLE had the crappiest DID scenes of all time... I can't recall many, if any, seriously good roping or gaggings. Seems to me that makes the show a definite **miss**. Or, is it a question of "quantity" rather than "quality"? |
| affirmed success |
| Tuesday February 25 18:09:07 2003 Re: By decades |
| > > > Seven seasons and one measly gag for Mitzi
> > > Kapture and no gag for Janet Gunn. > > > > Incorrect. Janet Gunn WAS b/g'd in one ep. I know > > nothing about this subject and even I know that. > > On second thought, I think I have this mixed up with > another series. Sorry, you are right. I TOLD you I > know zip about this topic. Yes, she had the brief and poorly lit scene B&G scene in "Dark Justice." There's a second scene listed in the database from the same show, but I've never seen it or read that anyone has it. It could be a duplicate. |
| Brian W. |
| Tuesday February 25 18:34:53 2003 Re: An Article By The Greyman |
| You know,If Wonder Woman had continued its ratio of "heroine KOed/captured" scenes it set during the first fourteen episodes (the World War 2 episodes,when the show was on ABC!) when it transferred to CBS and was set in contemporary times (and the costume got even smaller and sexier!),it would probably rank way up there with "The Avengers"! Plus,it probably would have lasted longer! I could never understand why the writers/producers would not have her face superpowered foes who were capable of knocking her out and placing her in some bondage or some diabolical trap! Instead she mostly fought garden variety thugs! Virtually all the peril she faced was when she was in her "Diana Prince" persona -- with the exception,of course,of the memorable KO/bondage Wonder Woman received in the "Murderous Missile" episode! What do you guys think?
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| gytalf2000 |
| Tuesday February 25 18:50:41 2003 Early duct tape scenes |
| >...Weekend of Terror was 1970 TV movie of the week, I think with Robert Conrad. The girl ran down the stairs and out to the porch in the opening segment, and she wore a gray tape gag; she was very pretty as I recall.
---------- My recollection was that it was a (then-standard) White tape gag, rather than gray/silver. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday February 25 19:04:10 2003 Re: I approve |
| > I think the "Zorak" signature implies the poster's intent
> was to point out that this airs on CARTOON NETWORK. Okay, I really need to get some sleep... |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 25 19:14:19 2003 Re: Looking for these clips: |
| > Opera aka Terror at the opera by D.Argento 2 clips
> Whispers in the dark > Pacific blue (Where a female gets hogtied) > + more clips of dids hogtied !! > and Stargate blond babe bound and tapegagged > If you know where we can download these clips, please > tell us! I've got the Opera and WitD clips on my site. (There are actually 3 scenes in Opera, BTW, though only two with gags.) I don't have the Pacific Blue scene you want, though I do count 10 other hogtie clips. I didn't bother with the Stargate scene because it simply didn't seem worth the trouble. The clips are in the member's area, which will set you back a whopping $3.95 for a month's subscription -- or we could work out a trade of some kind. Feel free to email. |
| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/ |
| Tuesday February 25 19:30:05 2003 Re: Tyring to identify 70's TV scene |
| >Trisha [sic] McMillan:
> Hey Zaphod stop trying to track down scenes off Earth > television and get back in the bedroom. > > I like a man with TWO tougnes ;). Yeah, Zaphod -- and could you tie her up for some kinky fun while you're there? (I was always slightly bummed that Douglas Adams never got around to giving us a Trillian-in-distress scene, whether of the consensual or non-consensual variety.) |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 25 19:39:25 2003 Re: General Hospital alert |
| > A spoiler said "Tuesday, Alexis is tied to a bed"
How did the scene turn out? Worth catching the re-broadcast on SoapNet? |
| Tuesday February 25 19:58:22 2003 24 tonight |
| Atypically, there's no rundown of tonight's 24 on aintitcoolnews.com. I'm expecting no joy (apart from a fine hour of television), despite Kim's best opportunity of the season to feel the ropes.
Needless to say, if it happens, I'm sure a west coast alert would be appreciated by many. :) |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 25 20:02:14 2003 Re: Early duct tape scenes |
| > My recollection was that it was a (then-standard) White
> tape gag, rather than gray/silver. You may be right because the scene was at night; but I think the kidnapper shined a light on her face and that moment should hold the key. Anyone have a clip of this scene? It was before home vcr's but somehow I remember someone (Brent?) having a clip. |
| Tuesday February 25 20:03:50 2003 Re: General Hospital alert |
| > > A spoiler said "Tuesday, Alexis is tied to a bed"
> > How did the scene turn out? Worth catching the > re-broadcast on SoapNet? I don't think it happened. So far I've only zipped through twice on TiVo's fastest speed, but if there was a bed tie (or any other kind) in there, it must have been a real blink. |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday February 25 20:34:10 2003 Re: Early duct tape scenes |
| > > My recollection was that it was a (then-standard)
> > White tape gag, rather than gray/silver. > > You may be right because the scene was at night; but I > think the kidnapper shined a light on her face and that > moment should hold the key. Anyone have a clip of this > scene? It was before home vcr's but somehow I remember > someone (Brent?) having a clip. I have a very poor copy obtained in a trade some years ago. The tape does look greyish, but it is definitely not duct tape. On a side note: The scene is kind of interesting because it shows the difference in the perception of women back then. Robert Conrad picks the damsel up, who is gagged but not tied, throws her over the shoulder and carries her back into the house. As she's being carried, she "mmmmphs!" furiously, kicks her legs back and forth, and futilely pounds her fist on his back which just makes him laugh. It's a cute scene, but was meant to be taken seriously. If they tried to show something like that today, he'd probably get kicked in the groin or poked in the eye. |
| MadFish |
| Tuesday February 25 21:16:26 2003 Silk Stalkings |
| > Silk Stalkings: One of the all-time disappointments but the show, at least, was watchable, which makes it less disappointing. Seven seasons and one measly gag for Mitzi Kapture and no gag for Janet Gunn. But the awesome outfits they wore kept me watching. Where in the universe do female detectives dress like that?
-------- Supposedly, Palm Beach P.D. Then again, they may have been working for the same police department as Heather Medway's 3rd season on "Viper". :-) You got that right. Both Kapture & Gunn are exceptionally attractive women -- and decent actresses to boot. Because "Silk Stalkings" WAS about titillation (the USA series' premise was about sex-related homicides, after all, which the weekly promos were clear to clarify); the victims or the suspects sometimes with a S&M/B&D connection, and with the detectives often required to go undercover, one would've expected many more quality scenes. By contrast, 1980's "Hunter" wasn't about titillation, but certainly came through in the DiD dept for homicide Sgt. Stepfanie Kramer. According to IMDB.com, Mitzi Kapture has been on "Young and the Restless" since 2002, so I'll rely on the Soap hounds here to keep us apprised of any future opportunities for her. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday February 25 21:35:52 2003 Re: General Hospital alert |
| > Raffish
> > > A spoiler said "Tuesday, Alexis is tied to a bed" > > > > How did the scene turn out? Worth catching the > > re-broadcast on SoapNet? > > I don't think it happened. So far I've only zipped > through twice on TiVo's fastest speed, but if there was a > bed tie (or any other kind) in there, it must have been a > real blink. It turned out to be a hospital bed tie, with her arms restrained with some pretty long restraints. Not much of a scene. |
| chubby |
| Tuesday February 25 21:54:21 2003 RE: by decades |
| I'd have to rank 90's series Viper and Silk Stalkings as the two most disappointing, long-running series ever. Viper, with Heather Medway running around either bra-less or in tight little mini-skirts, always going off on her own, frequently undercover, partners with men who always had people from their past seeking revenge, and she gets what? One gag (along with blindfold so you really couldn't see her face) and a few hands-in-front scenes. How could they not give her the full treatment at least once per season in one of her sexy outfits?
Silk Stalkings, with Mitzi Kapture always in tight mini-skirts and often in blouses that showed a little cleavage, was just as bad. A well-written series, but come on, a major babe lady detective facing sexual-themed criminals every week and yet none of them ever decide to tie and gag her? Not very likely. |
| Chris |
| Tuesday February 25 21:59:54 2003 Buffy and 24 - update |
| Buffy - strange episode, entertaining, no b&g scenes
24 - very minor scene, but for the West Coast people this would be a spoiler so beware... the guy who had Kim in his bomb shelter let her leave without a struggle; Kate's sister was cuffed by each arm to a chair by Jack after he shot her. Also, previews for next week did not hint at any b&g scenes. |
| chubby |
| Tuesday February 25 22:34:33 2003 Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| The Mexican soap Entre El Y El Odio had a scene tonight on TLN channel.
For DB entry, and a decent VHS machine alert for our southern neighbours when it airs there, can anyone recall rough when this soap started? Been on since at least Christmas. Thanx |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday February 25 22:40:37 2003 Re: Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| > The Mexican soap Entre El Y El Odio
Meant Entre El Amor Y El Odio |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday February 25 23:15:14 2003 Re: modern classics |
| Jennifer Beals' gag scene in Four Rooms is about as good as it gets, I don't see how it can avoid becoming a classic.
Nastassia Kinski's scene in Cat People strikes me as a classic. And the triple cheerleader abduction in "The Abductors" is also a classic |
| Pat Powers |
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