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| Monday February 17 00:03:43 2003 Re: Deleted post report |
| > Title Re: Coronation Street
> Poster: (unsigned) > Reason: Age inappropriate images. I totally understand why you would do this. Nowadays you have to constantly keep an eye open for the kiddie porn nazis. It just bothers me that they can get away with showing these images on television for anyone to see, but the same images could send you to jail if you have them on your computer. Make no mistake, my friends. The Salem witch trials never ended. They've just gone digital. |
| Monday February 17 00:55:05 2003 Re: Veritas |
| > The next episode is supposed to have Cobie Smulders going undercover. Hope ABC shows it soon.
ABC has pre-empted the low-rated Veritas this Monday for a hastily put together Michael Jackson special. Maybe when sweeps is over, the episode in question will come back, or perhaps not at all. I think Raffish had Cobie's Special Unit 2 scene available a few weeks ago. I hope she finds herself in another predicament soon. |
| Eagleton |
| Monday February 17 01:49:02 2003 Re: Loise Lane /Lara Flynn Boyle |
| > You mean it's gotten to the point where gorgeous Heather
> Locklear is "too old" to play "sexy reporter" > Point is that I think a seasoned reporter like > Lois is supposed to be can't be some young "just turned > 21" kid. I'd think anywhere between 28 and 40 would be > perfectly acceptable for a Miss Lane casting. Yeah, well, Heather is 42, so there you have it. But then again, the aforementioned Famke is pushing and nobody compalained about her landing a role as a comic heroine. |
| Felon |
| Monday February 17 01:50:24 2003 Re: Deleted post report |
| > I totally understand why you would do this. Nowadays you
> have to constantly keep an eye open for the kiddie porn > nazis. It just bothers me that they can get away with > showing these images on television for anyone to see, but > the same images could send you to jail if you have them > on your computer. Make no mistake, my friends. The > Salem witch trials never ended. They've just gone digital. Well, I'm a young adult, and close to her age (I went to the IMDB and found she's born a year before I am), so could you post a link to the images? Then I can make a judgement for myself what I think of them. (I hope it's not inappropriate to ask for a link, is it?) |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday February 17 05:17:15 2003 Re: Lois Lane |
| > There is no reason Lois could not be an Eskimo, either,
> but some things just don't work. Well, what would work for ME would be... in the alliterative Superman tradition... Lucy Liu. Have the kick-ass traits she displayed in Charlie's Angels put her in harm's way. Once captured, she can go into the sassy Ally McBeal mode. If white is a requirement, how about recent chainee Eva LaRue? Oh, wait, she's a Puerto Rican mix. (Just a little gag.) Still, we could have a campaign to "lash LaRue." Ummmm.... Halle Berry? Or should that be "Mmmmmm, Halle Berry?" "Mmmmmmmph?" And pardon the pun, you also could talk me into Nia Peeples, Jeri Ryan, Leah Remini, or Charisma Carpenter. These are choices to which one could cling tightly. Now, not too long ago, Demi Moore would have been fit to be... Lois (and may be still), and Eliza Dushku is bound to get there soon. Wonder Jennifer Anniston just be the pitts? Could we rope Jill Hennessy into it? Could we live in perfect (Angie) harmony? (The list goes Harmon on.) Okay. With no further ado, and apologies to LaRue, I'm sticking to Lucy Liu, pardon the pun on the goo. And the stupid rhymes, too. No mo' goo pun, guys. It's very late. |
| Not Brian |
| Monday February 17 08:21:24 2003 Much Ado About Lois |
| There's no need to get wrapped around the axle over who can or can't play Lois Lane. To state the obvious: IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SCRIPT!
(1) LL in her late 30's/early 40's --- Seasoned reporter up for an editorship. (2) LL in her late 20's/early 30's --- Veteran reporter with a few awards. (3) LL in her early to mid 20's --- Wet behind the ears. Still proving herself. (4) LL at 18 --- Summer intern at the Daily Planet. ------- Any of these could work (for our purposes), all would require different casting (duh!), all would be very different stories, & with a GOOD SCRIPT... we'd love any of them! (From the casting of the Man of Steel, my bet is they're going with option (3) for the new movie.) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Monday February 17 10:29:27 2003 Most desired damsel |
| Actually, the model I'd most like to see playing a damsel in distress in a full-length movie is Voluptuous Vicky from Poser. Check out the homepage link for a pic.
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| Pat Powers |
| http://home.pacbell.net/drbobin/gallery/pages/vvicky_02_jpg.htm |
| Monday February 17 11:02:51 2003 Veritas |
| 'I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! ' is airing next Monday in Veritas' time slot so that may be all she wrote for Cobie. |
| Monday February 17 11:29:18 2003 Re: Lois Lane casting |
| The 'scroll down' function sure is handy for skipping past all these inane Lois Lane discussions. |
| VB |
| Monday February 17 11:44:42 2003 Question |
| Wasnt it today that the special episode soaps would air? |
| Bowers |
| Monday February 17 13:02:18 2003 Re: John Doe |
| > I won't disclose how it ends, but I'm sure you won't
> like it. Hope it's safe to talk about this now. You could see this coming because there was a long stretch where Sprague's character didn't appear at all despite establishing her as a major character at the start. I'm sure this a blow to the younger DiD watchers, but for me, the part I didn't like most is that the best tie-up on this show so far happened to John Doe. Let's hope that secret government agency decides to give his friends Lt. Avery, Stella, and especially Dr. Rachel Penbroke (Gabrielle Anwar) the same once over. |
| MadFish |
| Monday February 17 13:25:28 2003 Re: Most desired damsel |
| > Actually, the model I'd most like to see playing a damsel
> in distress in a full-length movie is Voluptuous Vicky > from Poser. Check out the homepage link for a pic. Yack, I hate Poser. The characters look like they're made out of clay, at best. Maybe if they cel-shaded them, and made them look like cartoon drawings, or found some other unique lighting scheme (such as to make them look like paintings), I'd think they looked better. When it comes to non-real damsels, I prefer cartoons or paintings over traditional 3D renders!! |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday February 17 14:14:49 2003 Re: Lois Lane casting |
| I'll add my nomination then. Eliza Dushku (Faith from Buffy/Angel) for Lois. Early 20's, dark hair, and can handle some action. Would look great bound and gagged.
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| Larry |
| Monday February 17 14:48:54 2003 ONE LIFE TO LIVE |
| "Blair" (Kassie De Paiva) is bound and gagged on ONE LIFE TO LIVE today. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday February 17 14:53:20 2003 One Life to Live |
| As she's being dragged away by a couple of henchman, Blair has her hands tied in front and is cleave-gagged with a black scarf. She's quickly freed after one of the good guys takes care of the stooges. Scene occurs approx. 45 minutes into today's show. If anything happens in the last 15, I'll let everyone know. |
| Canucklehead |
| Monday February 17 15:02:25 2003 OLTL ctd. |
| Natalie is dragged of by Mitch in the final scene of today's One Life to Live. Previews for tomorrow show Natalie still in the hands of Mitch--in a very brief clip she is shown with a scarf around her neck and what looks like a black scarf (which is hopefully used as a gag) also around her neck. |
| Canucklehead |
| Monday February 17 15:36:52 2003 OLtL |
| I can guarndamntee you that Blair will be gagged tomorrow. Set te VCRs. |
| JoetheWrangler |
| Monday February 17 16:11:43 2003 Lois Lane Casting |
| Ok, so not hearing a lot of support for my choice of Julia Stiles (Hell, I think she's foxy as hell) but you guys must remember something, the budget for this is gonna be big, but most of it will be spent on the FX, therefore not A-list star is gonna get the gig, so ita gonna be a lesser name up and comer (just like Kirsten Dunst as Mary-Jane) |
| steve a |
| Monday February 17 17:02:13 2003 Re: OLTL ctd. |
| Yeah I'm positive Natalie will get tied up again (hopefully better this time). I don't know if she'll be gagged yet. Blair's scene is over; she's been rescued. There was a preview for Wednesday's episode with a view from the back of a dark scene where Natalie is tied arms over head, then right afterward she is all over some guy saying something about him rescuing her. I'm not positive about tomorrow, but definitely set your VCRs for Wednesday.
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| Jon |
| Monday February 17 17:12:58 2003 HTF Vidcap Page |
| There are 902 caps in the 'Unidentified Section' (31 pages). First ones are obvious. |
| http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/_Preview/index.html.html |
| Monday February 17 17:53:11 2003 soaps re-aired? |
| Many of us in the northeast got all day snow storm coverage instead of the soaps today. Does anyone know if the soaps today will be re-aired (tonight, tomorrow, whenever) or did we who don't have soapnet miss them forever? |
| snow job |
| Monday February 17 18:13:01 2003 Re: HTF Vidcap Page |
| > There are 902 caps in the 'Unidentified Section' (31
> pages). First ones are obvious. That's "unpublished," not "unidentified." Many are identified in the filenames. Be aware that the site is really slow. |
| Paul |
| Monday February 17 18:40:36 2003 No DID on DD |
| there is NO bondage on Daredevil
Jennifer Garner has NEVER lookled better though and it WOULD have been a GREAT movie if the STUPID screenwriters didn't ruin it by a useless plot twist (that had nothing to do with lack of bondage) that totally ruined the movie for me (don't want to ruin the "surprise" for anyone else) :)) |
| Snowcat |
| Monday February 17 18:59:06 2003 She Spies |
| Just posted an alert for Kristen Miller on this week's show, "While You Were Out". That makes, by my count, 9 out of 15 episodes with something of interest for this group. Seems strange there's been so little discussion about it. |
| Bob |
| Monday February 17 20:02:11 2003 Re: No DID on DD |
| > there is NO bondage on Daredevil
> > Jennifer Garner has NEVER lookled better though > and it WOULD have been a GREAT movie if the STUPID > screenwriters didn't ruin it by a useless plot twist > (that had nothing to do with lack of bondage) > that totally ruined the movie for me (don't want to ruin > the "surprise" for anyone else) Just FYI: the "twist" I *think* you're referring to was present in the comic story arc that the movie is lifted from. If you must blame someone, blame Frank Miller. (Although I think his work is just fine.) |
| Unbridled |
| Monday February 17 20:03:44 2003 Joe Millionaire tonight |
| First hour: Secrets of the women of Joe Millionaire--looks like they are going to talk a little about Sarah Krozer's bondage career--is this on topic? |
| ss |
| Monday February 17 20:16:47 2003 Re: Joe Millionaire tonight |
| > First hour: Secrets of the women of Joe
> Millionaire--looks like they are going to talk a little > about Sarah Krozer's bondage career--is this on topic? No, it is not. |
| The Moderator |
| Monday February 17 20:18:20 2003 Deleted post report |
| Title: Re: Lois Lane Casting
Poster: Various Reason: When I say stay on focus, that doesn't mean acrimonious debate about comic book universe revamps. Also got rid of a few off-topic Gilligan ones whilst I was in a hair-trigger mode. |
| The Moderator |
| Monday February 17 20:42:45 2003 Buffy |
| Buffy will be chained on the episode that you will see tomorrow, one chain on each arm while standing, with the end bolted to the ground while some tribal elder types try to imbue her with demon spirit... some struggling... no gag...
Cheers |
| Realbiggeek |
| Monday February 17 20:47:26 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Just posted an alert for Kristen Miller on this week's
> show, "While You Were Out". That makes, by my count, 9 > out of 15 episodes with something of interest for this > group. Seems strange there's been so little discussion about it. What kind of scene was it? I saw in the alerts she was gagged. How was she tied up and gagged? Much appreciated. Sorry, I really like this show and love Ms. Miller. |
| Sir_Knott |
| Monday February 17 21:03:31 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Just posted an alert for Kristen Miller on this week's
> show, "While You Were Out". That makes, by my count, 9 > out of 15 episodes with something of interest for this > group. Seems strange there's been so little discussion about it. Well, very few gags (don't want to be divisive or anything, but that IS the answer) and a lot of the tie-ups were fairly dull chair ties. Other shows this season have been fairly inventive with the relativelY few scenes we've had. The mystery gag on CSI, the adroit use of a loud raido to muffle a tape-gagged damsel's cries on Hack, the nude panty gag on Law and Order SVU, the standing underwear bondage on OLTL -- this stuff has been discussed. What's to discuss about another scene of a damsel tied to a chair by her wrists? |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday February 17 21:16:12 2003 Re: She Spies |
| Pat,
Just want to get some info on this scene that was described in the Alerts page, that's all. I know about the show. Damsels tied to chairs are very appealing to me, so it doesn't float everyone's boat, sorry. |
| Sir_Knott |
| sir_knott2002@yahoo.com |
| Monday February 17 21:25:38 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Damsels tied to chairs are very appealing to me, so it
> doesn't float everyone's boat, sorry. I love chair ties. Hands tied behind the back of a chair is so classic, like a white over-the-mouth gag. I am also very fond of scenes where the damsel's wrists are tied to the chair arms. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday February 17 21:44:14 2003 Days Of our Lives |
| Possiblity: Spoiler for Friday says that Belle (Kerstin Storms)
will be captured by Larry. |
| anon22 |
| http://www.soapsite.com/spoilers/dool.htm |
| Monday February 17 21:51:24 2003 DOOL |
| Sorry - that should be KIRSTEN Storms! |
| anon22 |
| Monday February 17 22:41:46 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Just want to get some info on this scene that was
> described in the Alerts page Kristen's character is captured, gagged and hands tied behind back (no chair). The episode airs this coming week, in most cities on the weekend. |
| Bob |
| Monday February 17 22:58:02 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Damsels tied to chairs are very appealing to me, so it
> doesn't float everyone's boat, sorry. My feeling is that chair ties are kinda the default for tie-ups -- the easiest and most commonplace tie-up. They're just not as unusual as other tie-ups. I also don't think they're as dramatically powerful as others. I'll fill out my reasons in another post. This isn't the same as saying I don't LIKE them as well as I like others. I think I have a logical case for why they're not so dramatic. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday February 17 22:59:24 2003 re: she spies |
| Bob, HOW is she gagged? |
| Roger |
| Monday February 17 23:02:38 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| This is an excerpt of a Bondage Banter from my site which I'm posting here to avoid having to link directly to a really nekkid image:
The chair tie with duct tape gag is becoming the new cliche of bondage imagery. Well, not exactly a cliche in the sense that the others are. The railroad tracks peril and the sawmill peril were both the results of directors working to create dramatic scenes, and when they first came out they were undoubtedly exciting and original cinema. They only became cliches through repetition, repetition which occurred because they were such powerful scenes in the first place. Most of the time, the chair tie just means the director and/or writer is being lazy. There are a lot of reasons for using a chair tie, but pumping up the drama isn't one of them. The chair tie is the least dramatic tie imaginable. The woman is generally bound with her wrists tied to the chair arms. Sometimes her ankles are bound as well, sometimes the wrists are the only thing secured. And the damsel, if gagged at all, is often sloppily gagged. The problem the director solves with this technique isn't dramatic, it's logistical. He's got to tie an actress for the scene, what's the pose that she can maintain with the least discomfort, preferably one she can stay in between takes so she won't have to be untied if they're short breaks? The chair tie is the answer. Sitting in a chair is quite comfortable. (Being tied in a comfy spreadeagle -- i.e., the legs are not spread far apart -- is probably more comfortable, but chairs show up in all sorts of places, beds tend to be confined to bedrooms.) But all that comfort and convenience costs quite a bit in terms of drama. Most of the time a woman tied in a chair doesn't look all that different from a woman just sitting in a chair, especially if no gag is involved. She does not look vulnerable. Hell, she looks comfortable, because she is. Unless the bondage securing the damsel to the chair is extensive, as in "Single White Female" or the Xena Warrior Princess scene featuring Callisto described in a recent Banter, it's not dramatic at all. This takes the dramatic punch of the scene down quite a bit. Imagine the visual difference between a damsel in a comfy chair tie and one in a tight hogtie or a wrist-ankle tie and you'll get the point immediately. Fact is, film is a visual medium, and bondage that looks comfortable is a lot less dramatic than bondage that looks uncomfortable. Of course, posing an actress in a hogtie and a wrist-ankle tie is more of a problem than a comfy chair-tie, but so what? If it's a major problem, get a stuntwoman to do the bondage scene. If the bondage scene is important enough to be in the film or TV show at all, it's important enough to do it right. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday February 17 23:13:58 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| > If the bondage scene is important enough to be in the >film or TV show at all, it's important enough to do it >right.
No, because everything in a production is not of equal value or importance. How the characters look is important. The dialogue is pretty important. How realistically they are tied up is pretty low on the priority list for a director. There is little need for a realistic tie up if a symbolic one (e.g. hands tied in front) will convey the same message to the audience. |
| Mark B. |
| Monday February 17 23:14:08 2003 re: she spies |
| > Bob, HOW is she gagged?
Thanks Roger. That's all I'm asking, what type of gag? (Sheesh, didn't think it'd be this hard!) |
| Sir_Knott |
| Monday February 17 23:18:13 2003 Re: HTF Vidcap Page |
| > There are 902 caps in the 'Unidentified Section' (31
> pages). First ones are obvious. Some of these are AWESOME! A few of my favorites: http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/_Preview/htf_sbudhs_10.jpg http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/_Preview/htf_sbudhs_18.jpg (contains 3 putzes, so try to mentally filter them out) http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/_Preview/htf_tkr_118.jpg http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/_Preview/htf_greenhorn_01.jpg I like chair ties and other "classics", and I especially like close-ups of bound wrists. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday February 17 23:23:40 2003 Re: She Spies |
| >
> Kristen's character is captured, gagged and hands tied > behind back (no chair). The episode airs this coming > week, in most cities on the weekend. Bob, do you have a rough scene time for this episode? Does it happen in the first half or the last half? Is she shown once in this predicament or a few times? Thanks for posting the alert, BTW. |
| KEVIN |
| Monday February 17 23:32:21 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| > There is little need for a
> realistic tie up if a symbolic one (e.g. hands tied in > front) will convey the same message to the audience. My point was that they don't convey the same message. A damsel who doesn't look distressed by her bondage doesn't comvey the same message as one who does. I would say that in the vast majority of scenes, if you are going to show a damsel in distress, it is better to make her look distressed. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday February 17 23:52:42 2003 Re: Chair Ties |
| > My point was that they don't convey the same message. A
> damsel who doesn't look distressed by her bondage doesn't > comvey the same message as one who does. I would say that > in the vast majority of scenes, if you are going to show > a damsel in distress, it is better to make her look > distressed. If the damsel does not look distressed, that is a function of bad acting, not realistic rope work or realistic bondage. There have been few realistic bondage scenes in TV, EVER. Ever wonder why? Because by and large they aren't considered important by the only people who matter- the people that create these productions. |
| Mark B. |
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