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Monday February 03 01:13:42 2003
Lifetime Scores Again
Someone posted an alert for "Facing the Enemy" for this coming Friday. For those not familiar, it contains a great handgag and duct-tape gag scene for Alexandra Paul near the end. Now I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, but isn't it odd how Lifetime and Lifetime Movie Network seem to have so many movies which feature DiDs and that these movies get so much airplay? "Deadly Vision" seems to re-air like every other month and I know "Blind Obsession" has been on at least three times in the past year.

I'm not saying it's deliberate because that would be akin to the topic of a conspiracy (and you know we don't use the "C" word here). It just strikes me as odd is all.
MadFish
Monday February 03 02:32:58 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again
> isn't it odd how Lifetime and Lifetime Movie Network seem > to have so many movies which feature DiDs and that these > movies get so much airplay?

Speaking of LMN, coming up: "Complex of Fear" (2/5, 2/6) & "Hands of a Stranger" (twice on 2/10). Alerts just added.
Monday February 03 05:21:23 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again
> Someone posted an alert for "Facing the Enemy" for this
> coming Friday. For those not familiar, it contains a
> great handgag and duct-tape gag scene for Alexandra Paul
> near the end. Now I'm not one to look a gift horse in
> the mouth, but isn't it odd how Lifetime and Lifetime
> Movie Network seem to have so many movies which feature
> DiDs and that these movies get so much airplay? "Deadly
> Vision" seems to re-air like every other month and I know
> "Blind Obsession" has been on at least three times in the
> past year.
>
> I'm not saying it's deliberate because that would be akin
> to the topic of a conspiracy (and you know we don't use
> the "C" word here). It just strikes me as odd is all.

Yes, I too, savor the irony of the preponderance of bound and gagged women in movies produced by Lifetime, a network aligned with feminist ideology. The network demonizes men and depicts us as perpetrators of violence against women. To reinforce this depiction of men as evildoers, they must incorporate female bondage into the plots of their insipid and badly cliched movies, and in doing so, provide a source of sexual titillation for men!
I loved "A Deadly Vision", with Kristin Davis bound and gagged by her deranged neighbor. He tells her that she'll be in a chair, but "physically restrained, of course". In the following scene in which she appears, she is bound and gagged with duct tape.

Hadji
Monday February 03 05:59:03 2003
Re: Murder on the Dance Floor
> I saw a little bit of a music video with this name--in
> the middle, there was a cloro handgag/grab of the female
> lead.

Nothing else of interest. Sophie Ellis Bextor, should be in the Database.
Ph P
Monday February 03 06:15:41 2003
Re: Russian bondage scenes, etc.
> I always wondered whether the Russians had any kind
> of
> bondage scenes in their commercial mediums. I'd like to
> find out more on this.
> Also the rest of eastern Europe, Greece, Cambodia, etc.
> etc.
> Anybody out there know anything? MK

Czech movies: Saxana the Witch has Petra Cernocka b&g hile riding on a broom-stick (Database #1710). The movie Zauberbuch (#2203) with a b&g fairy in a chimney is a Czech-Austrian coproduction. The famous Czech Cinderella movie with Libuse Safrankova almost contains a scene towards the end where Cinderella gets b&g by her wicked stepmother. Unfortunately, all you get to see are the items which were used to tie her up and gag her (rope and a scarf). A missed oportunity.

Ph P
Monday February 03 10:40:23 2003
Cambodia, Vietnam
The evil Khmer Rogue are targetting everyone, including Cambodian actress, director because they think that movie, drama (even traditional) are influenced by US / France / Capitalist.

Perhaps the only DID in movies are war movies (PoW, rape) or sadistic torture by Khmer Rogue ("Killing Fields").

In Vietnam, I saw several old local war movies with DID scenes: US soldiers / South Vietnamese soldiers torturing, raping female Prisonner of War / local girls. The actors who play US soldiers are .... Russian!

The movie industry is almost non existant in Cambodia (except "Lara Croft") and develop slowly in Vietnam.
asian
Monday February 03 12:05:49 2003
Wonder Woman
Those interested in how the "Wonder Woman" film might turn out may be interested in this article from "Ain't It Cool News" today:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14359

It's a long piece, and spends a lot of time on the generally sorry state of DC/Warner Brothers' superhero franchises, but the section at the end about Wonder Woman suggests that it will have little or nothing to do with the character as we've come to know her, but that it will be an action piece, and nothing in the article precludes some fun and games (one talkbacker suggests they do a sort of tongue-in-cheek "traditional" version "where she could get tied up and stuff").
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Monday February 03 13:15:36 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again
> > the mouth, but isn't it odd how Lifetime and Lifetime
> > Movie Network seem to have so many movies which feature
> Yes, I too, savor the irony of the preponderance of bound
> and gagged women in movies produced by Lifetime, a
> network aligned with feminist ideology. The network
> demonizes men and depicts us as perpetrators of violence
> against women. To reinforce this depiction of men as
> evildoers, they must incorporate female bondage into the
> plots of their insipid and badly cliched movies, and in
> doing so, provide a source of sexual titillation for men!

We reap the rewards of Lifetime, I think, because, like the pay movie channels, they have to fill their schedule with mostly movies. Therefore, they take anything they can get their hands on and run it constantly. The movies with bondage scenes are not produced or made by Lifetime, they just buy them after network/video runs. But that's fine by me. It's the best place to find made-for-tv movies that you won't find in the video stores or missed the first time around. Or in my case, be an idiot and accidently erase over Kristin Davis bound and gagged.

Actually, most of the "original" movies made by Lifetime never involve bondage, and their original programs on Sunday night have produced a big zero. (Still waiting for Nancy McKeon to do something).

> I loved "A Deadly Vision", with Kristin Davis bound and
> gagged by her deranged neighbor.

One of the best scenes of all time. Can a tape gag be more perfectly placed or look better? But they did edit the scene where he ties her up with the tape, which was shown on network but not on Lifetime.

Been waiting for the Alexandra Paul scene to show up somewhere.
Brian W.
Monday February 03 13:44:05 2003
Very brief scene on All My Children today

A strawberry blond woman in black leather posing as a British cop was apparently B&G today. It appears to have been a "blink and you miss it" scene because I left the room for a split second and returned to find three people talking to her with a white gag around her neck. The woman is very attractive so if anyone catches this at a later time elsewhere in the country, maybe you can provide more info; I apologize for the sketchiness of my info...
John
Monday February 03 13:56:16 2003
Re: Very brief scene on All My Children today
>
> A strawberry blond woman in black leather posing as a
> British cop was apparently B&G today.

Episode replays today at 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. on SoapNet.
Brian W.
Monday February 03 14:04:37 2003
Re: Very brief scene on All My Children today

>It appears to have
> been a "blink and you miss it" scene because I left the
> room for a split second and returned to find three people
> talking to her with a white gag around her neck.
>

Can you (or anyone else) say approximately when the scene occured?
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday February 03 14:28:40 2003
Re: Very brief scene on All My Children today

>
> Can you (or anyone else) say approximately when the scene
> occured?

Probably during the last half hour, but in case there was something interesting earlier, I'd recommend taping the whole hour.
John
Monday February 03 15:48:22 2003
Kingpin
Last night on the premeir of NBC's Kingpin there was a short handcuff scene. A latina DEA agent wearing jeans and a jean jacket is forced to lie on her stomach she's handcuffed and taken out to a car where she's forced to get in the trunk. The rest of the scene is pretty violent.
Viking
Monday February 03 15:48:58 2003
jennifer
Does anyone out there have pics of Stephanie Cameron as Jennifer from DOOL when she was kidnapped by Travis in November 1999 and she was bound and gagged on a bed wearing green and white pajamas? Anyone at all?
hobwuzzle@hotmail.com
Monday February 03 16:06:49 2003
Re: jennifer
> Does anyone out there have pics of Stephanie Cameron as
> Jennifer... bound and gagged on a bed
> wearing green and white pajamas?

Yes, I do. I will e-mail them to you right now.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Monday February 03 16:10:10 2003
Re: Very brief scene on All My Children today
>
> Probably during the last half hour, but in case there was
> something interesting earlier, I'd recommend taping the
> whole hour.
>

Thanks.

There was no gaggage ... she's carried into the room after being found already unmuffled and untied, with the ropes still dangling from her limbs.
Biff
Monday February 03 17:04:07 2003
Re: Very brief scene on All My Children today
What was the plotline all about?
Monday February 03 17:52:55 2003
Greece
What about Xena and Hercules?
IIRC on Disney's Hercules, there is a DID scene (cartoon).

Perhaps there are several DID scenes on Troy, Roman conquest of Greece (slavery) etc.

During its peak of power, Athena and other ancient Greek Cities are supported by slaves / prisoner or war.

I also read DID and torture scenes on movie about the Communist force in Greece after WW II.
asian
Monday February 03 19:13:48 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again
> Speaking of LMN, coming up: "Complex of Fear" (2/5, 2/6)
> & "Hands of a Stranger" (twice on 2/10).
Alerts just added.

Randi Lane (Cheryl) #779
Beverly D'Angelo (Mary Hearn) #635
http://bindherupx.net/cgg3/randilane.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/beverlydangelo.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Monday February 03 19:17:08 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again
>The network
> demonizes men and depicts us as perpetrators of violence
> against women. To reinforce this...

While there may be some feminist stuff on Lifetime, that's not their mission. Their mission is to make money by running a channel that attracts female viewers. They do this primarily by running movies in which the central characters are women. Good women, bad women, strong women, weak women, they don't care, as long as the people who watch buy lipstick. When you run a lot of movies, some of them are bound to be crime movies, and that's why we find stuff we like.
Paul
Monday February 03 19:35:49 2003
Re: Fastlane, Poppy
> I think most of us are so disgusted with the show, most
> probably feel it's not worth mentioning. It was very
> brief and you couldn't see much.

Granted the scene was very brief, and I certainly understand that many are disgusted with the show (myself included), but I still enjoyed it simply because I had been waiting for something to happen with her all season long. So in that regard it was still enjoyable.

Also even though she is supposed to be in prison for the next episode, there is still a possiblity that they will show some scenes of her being transported to the prison in chains. It may not happen, but there is that slim chance. I will try to remember to watch it next week to see if anything develops.

JBRoper
jbr@jbroper.com
http://www.jbroper.com
Monday February 03 19:42:16 2003
Rumors
I heard recently that one of the women on the recent bachelor type shows was a bdsm model/actress...Any knowledge about this possibility?
Introspector
Monday February 03 20:08:38 2003
New Zealand Actress Elizabeth McGlinn
I discovered on the internet that there was a recent New Zealand TV show called "Atlantis High." Checking out the "Atlantis High" website it says that in episode 25 of the series a character named Octavia gets bound and gagged. The actress playing Octavia, Elizabeth McGlinn, is an pretty blonde (see the attached link).
There is no mention of this scene in the data base. Has anyone out there ever heard about this one?
CD
http://Elizabethmcglinn.tvheaven.com/
Monday February 03 20:14:13 2003
"Atlantis High"
Here is the link to the "Atlantis High" episode synopsisguide. EEpisode 25 is the one of possible interest to us.
http://www.tvtome.com/Atlantishigh/guide.html
Monday February 03 20:16:23 2003
Atlantis High Site Correction
Sorry, the previous site was typed wrong. Hopefully this one is correct
www.tvtome.com/Atlantishigh/guide.html
Monday February 03 20:21:48 2003
Last Try - Atlantis High Synopsis Site
One more try at that "Atlantis High Episode guide site.
http://www.tvtome.com/AtlantisHigh/guide.html
Monday February 03 20:23:41 2003
Re: "Atlantis High"

> Here is the link to the "Atlantis High" episode
> synopsisguide. EEpisode 25 is the one of possible interest to us.
>

Here go.
Biff
http://www.tvtome.com/AtlantisHigh/season1.html
Monday February 03 20:42:30 2003
Atlantis High
There seems to be this entire sub-genre of New Zealand &/or Aussie pre-teen/teen soap operas, all with this vaguely, explicitly, (cheap), SciFi setting, examples being:

..."Tribes" (Was that the name? A bunch of teenagers running around in elaborate makeup in a post apocolyptic world in which all the adults have disappeared. (It isn't clear what they're going to do once the spam & makeup runs out, they're too busy posing & arguing with each other over trivia.))

...The one with the kid in the coma? He "dreams" this world with kids in costumes (& the class thugs doing their fascist cult imitations.)

Anyway, "Atlantis High" looks like more of the same. Does anyone actually *get* the show? (I've only see the other ones on rare occasions.)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
Monday February 03 20:50:53 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again
> Actually, most of the "original" movies made by Lifetime
> never involve bondage, and their original programs on
> Sunday night have produced a big zero.

Actually, one of the female cops on The Division was handcuffed in front in a prison. Lisa Vidal who plays Magda went undercover in prison to investigate corruption. Her cover was blown, and the corrupt warden and a like guard had her cuffed in front while they were interrogating her and telling her she would soon have an unfortunate accident. It is in episode 17 of season 1, and is called "The first hit is for free baby." It's not much, but I guess it's the best that the show has done lately.
TV Critic
Monday February 03 21:18:47 2003
Re: Rumors
> I heard recently that one of the women on the recent
> bachelor type shows was a bdsm model/actress...Any
> knowledge about this possibility?

Yes, it is true. However, the Moderator does not want us talking about it on the Discussion page anymore. For more information, check both the Discussion page and the Anything Goes page for the last few days. Post any further comments on the Anything Goes page.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Monday February 03 21:20:12 2003
Atlantis High
CD: In the episode guide for "Atlantis High" - it states that in Episode 25, the character of "Antonia" (Victoria Spence) gets bound & gagged, not "Octavia". Too many "-ia" characters in the show!
anon22
Monday February 03 22:02:21 2003
Tomorrow's "Just Cause"
Tomorrow's "Just Cause" on PAX promises a kidnapping, and previews show a nice handgag. Anyone know if this is a repeat or a new episode?
Brian L
Monday February 03 22:13:22 2003
Re: Murder on the Dance Floor
Thanks, Ph P.
Rich McGill
Monday February 03 22:16:13 2003
Re: Lifetime Scores Again

> The network
> demonizes men and depicts us as perpetrators of violence
> against women.


Off-topic political crap. Cut it out NOW.

The Moderator
Monday February 03 22:16:51 2003
Re: Tomorrow's "Just Cause"
> Tomorrow's "Just Cause" on PAX promises a kidnapping, and
> previews show a nice handgag. Anyone know if this is a
> repeat or a new episode?

This is a repeat.
The handgag is all there was. DiD is Monika Schnarre.
LV
Monday February 03 22:43:58 2003
Re: Tomorrow's "Just Cause"
> The handgag is all there was. DiD is Monika Schnarre.

Same one from the Friday the 13th "Epitaph for a Lonely Soul" episode?
Anubis
Monday February 03 22:45:42 2003
Some print media stuff
Unless I missed it, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the ad in this weeks tv guide for American Idol with a photo of Paula Abdul with a large X of tape over her mouth. I'm nearly positive its a photo manip, but its Paula, and its tv guide and I liked it!

The upcoming tv movie, "1st To Die" that has been mentioned lately.. starring Tracy Pollen among several lovely others. Its based on the book of the same name by James Patterson, who does the Alex Cross books.. "Kiss the Girls" and "Along Came a Spider" among them. This was the first in a new series starring a quartet of women. Unfortunately there was no bondage at all in the book, and although okay, by Pattersons standards, it wasn't even particularly well written IMHO. I just bought the paperback of the 2nd in the series, but haven't read it yet. Still, I'll be watching the tv movie..ya never know..

But if you like good thrillers with some nice bondage thrown in, you might check out "Middle of Nowhere" by Ridley Pearson. Good read, and the lovely heroine spends a LOT of time bound and gagged both inside, and in the trunk of a killers car.
David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com
Monday February 03 23:09:57 2003
Re: Tomorrow's "Just Cause"
> > The handgag is all there was. DiD is Monika Schnarre.
>
> Same one from the Friday the 13th "Epitaph for a Lonely
> Soul" episode?

Same one. A bit older, but still looked as good as then.
LV
Monday February 03 23:15:07 2003
Re: Some print media stuff
> Unless I missed it, I'm surprised that nobody has
> mentioned the ad in this weeks tv guide for American Idol
> with a photo of Paula Abdul with a large X of tape over
> her mouth. I'm nearly positive its a photo manip, but
> its Paula, and its tv guide and I liked it!

You didn't miss it. I think we all did. I remember looking at that ad and thinking it was the same old one showing Cowell with the tape.
Whole thing looks like a drawing, but still looks pretty cool.
Thanks for the heads up!
LV
Monday February 03 23:31:52 2003
dragnet
did anything pan out on Dragnet the other night? i forgot to tape it.
Monday February 03 23:41:01 2003
Re: Atlantis High
> Anyway, "Atlantis High" looks like more of the same.
> Does anyone actually *get* the show? (I've only see the other ones on rare occasions.)

As someone who actually lives in New Zealand, I can honestly say I have never heard of Atlantis High. TVTome states it was on Channel 5, which is strange due to the fact NZ only has 4 main channels. The only explaination I can give is that it is probably a regional show. I'll do some checking and see what turns up.

Cody

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