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Tuesday March 04 00:23:51 2003
Re: Scenes
> Does anyone have any caps of these scenes. Or even a
> movie? If so could you either e-mail me or post to the
> message board. Thanx

I've got clips of the Joy Ride scene, both with the original soundtrack and the somewhat entertaining commentary track mentioned here just recently -- though I'm still bitter toward myself for accidentally editing out her comment about how the plastic wrap was flattening her boobs out. :/

The clips are in my members' area. I could probably be convinced to add one to an upcoming free update, despite my usual "no repeats in the same year" rule for myself. (i.e. I'll accept a show of interest by email...)
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/JoyRide.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Tuesday March 04 01:23:35 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County
> Has anyone else seen this movie, maybe on
> another channel, with the scene intact?

I saw it when it originally aired in '92. What Lifetime shows now is the same as what CBS showed back then

> I wouldn't think
> Lifetime would edit a movie made specifically for
> Lifetime, but I guess they saw fit to. Bummer!!! Grrr!

It was actually made for CBS...but they way they did it was frustrating. Even with a slo-mo on my VCR, you really can't see if her ankles are tied. Hearing the moans, you THINK you'll see something but you don't.

Just as bad as the implied bondage in "The Mean Season."
Gagged Damsel Lover
Tuesday March 04 01:31:56 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County
> This movie should be taken from the database
> to avoid waste of VCR tape space.

I agree wholeheartedly...



Gagged Damsel Lover
Tuesday March 04 04:58:48 2003
Re: Primal Instinct
> Pat Powers
> > There are a few scenes of the actress, Celia Xander,
> > restrained with handcuffs and silenced with a ballgag,
>
> > but otherwise the plot is rather lame.
>
> By coincidence, I just finished a review of this dreck,
> and I pretty much agree with you. Interestingluy enough,
> Celia also was the Executive Producer, wrote the
> screenplay and was the producer of the film. And her
> last name is listed as Xavier, not Xander. (I'm assuming
> you are a Buffista.)

I apologize for my mistake. Yes, the lead actress, screenwriter, and executive producer is Celia XAVIER. I should've checked the DVD package for her name, but the movie was so egegiously bad that I returned it as soon as possible.
Yes, it is intersting that she wrote a screenplay in which her character is placed in such stringent bondage, with shackles and a ballgag. I wonder if she'll write any more screenplays that feature bound and gagged damsels?

Hadji
Tuesday March 04 08:25:27 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
>>>>I was looking through some old tapes recently and came
> across several scenes with actresses that, before they
> did a scene, they were high on my wish-list. Only I
> didn't care much for them as DiDs, even though the scene
> set-ups were decent to good. Anyone else got a
> disappointment list that might surprise?<<<<


I have a couple. Alyssa Milano's tape-gag scene from CHARMED a couple of years ago did nothing for me. Also, Reese Witherspoon in BEST LAID PLANS was just... blah.
The Greyman
vincegrey@thegreyman.net
http://www.thegreyman.net
Tuesday March 04 10:46:28 2003
Penny from Inspector "Gag"-get
I have good news to those who are crazy for cartoon bondage: tomorrow at 7:30 AM (Newfoundland time), tomorrow's episode of Inspector Gadget will feature Penny getting bound and gagged. It's the one about the Quiz Master show. Penny is on a catwalk and gets gagged from behind and then a big rope ties around her waist and her hands behind her. Of coures this scene only lasts a few seconds bcause after she's lowered into a giant glass, she unties herself. I f some of you aleady have pics of this event, I just wanted to let you know.
Tuesday March 04 11:08:59 2003
Fear Factor
I am a long time poster so if this is off topic let me apologize ahead of time but the blond who had the scene in Fear Factor last night is named Tammie Sheffield and she is also a Helpless Heroines model who modeled under the name Candice McClain. At least, I should say, I am almost certain it's her.
J Par
Tuesday March 04 11:57:55 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> > This movie should be taken from the database

> I agree wholeheartedly...

I deleted it,

One favour here,
if you don't like entries, let me know next time over on the Data-Base Corrections Page.
Thanx
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Tuesday March 04 12:49:29 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> > > This movie should be taken from the database
>

It should have been kept in the DB. I taped the scene and thought it was a keeper.
Tuesday March 04 13:25:19 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
> I have a couple. Alyssa Milano's tape-gag scene from
> CHARMED a couple of years ago did nothing for me. Also,
> Reese Witherspoon in BEST LAID PLANS was just... blah.

Good pick on Reese Witherspoon. Part of it, I think, was her doing. She looked unconscious in the first scene when tied to the pool table, and the lighting was bad on the second scene when she was tape-gagged. Not much effort on her part in either scene. I saved those scenes but haven't seen them since I recorded em.

As for Alyssa, when that first aired I thought it was a bit disappointing, thinking "I waited 12 years for this?" (I'm not counting her scene in "Commando"). But in the last couple years I've come to like it a little more, mainly because it doesn't appear she'll be doing any gag scenes anytime soon.
Brian W.
Tuesday March 04 15:21:48 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
> Good pick on Reese Witherspoon. Part of it, I think, was
> her doing. She looked unconscious in the first scene when
> tied to the pool table, and the lighting was bad on the
> second scene when she was tape-gagged. Not much effort on
> her part in either scene. I saved those scenes but
> haven't seen them since I recorded em.

Wow...I'll just have to differ with you guys, then. While the scenes weren't everything I might have wanted, they were more than I feel like I had a reasonable right to expect. :) And hey, she actually does some pretty nice emoting under that first gag...
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/BestLaidPlans.jpg
Raffish
Tuesday March 04 15:50:50 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> It should have been kept in the DB. I taped the scene
> and thought it was a keeper.

Okay,
this not final.
Discussing it over on Data-Base Corrections Page,
if you favour putting the entry back in.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Tuesday March 04 16:14:44 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
> And hey, she actually does some pretty
> nice emoting under that first gag...


I agree. I mean hell, it is frikin Reese Witherspoon! She's outrageously beautiful, and she played the gagged damsel pretty well if you ask me. A good scene, a very good scene.


doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Tuesday March 04 16:20:34 2003
trying to name movie
hey so right to it, a couple of years back there was a movie starrign anthony edwards and some other guy, and they go and rob a family of a daughter, mother, husband and son, because they thought they had money. well whoever anthony edwards is playing and his partner break into their house and put them all in the bathroom, and one at a time they take them out and tie them up in different places in the house, more importantly the daughter in her room. in the end they all end up getting killed.. but is there anyone who might recognize this? i cant relaly think of any key words to locate it in the database

shammmy
shammmy
Tuesday March 04 16:41:51 2003
Re: trying to name movie
> hey so right to it, a couple of years back there was a
> movie starrign anthony edwards and some other guy, and
> they go and rob a family of a daughter, mother, husband
> and son, because they thought they had money. well
> whoever anthony edwards is playing and his partner break
> into their house and put them all in the bathroom, and
> one at a time they take them out and tie them up in
> different places in the house, more importantly the
> daughter in her room. in the end they all end up getting
> killed.. but is there anyone who might recognize this? i
> cant relaly think of any key words to locate it in the database

A quick trip to the IMDb suggests that you're thinking of the 1996 TV movie "In Cold Blood." It's a remake, and while the original 1967 version is in the database, the remake is not. I'm sure it would be appreciated if you were to add an entry, given that you've actually seen it.
Raffish
Tuesday March 04 16:43:25 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
Ally Sheedy's scene in Deadly Lesson was somewhat disappointing because she was too damn quiet. Compare that to Yvonne Craig's cute mmmphing in The Man From UNCLE.
Tuesday March 04 16:47:14 2003
Re: trying to name movie



Did you try the IMDB. Could be "In Cold Blood"

Tuesday March 04 17:22:51 2003
Re: trying to name movie
> Raffish
>
> A quick trip to the IMDb suggests that you're thinking of
> the 1996 TV movie "In Cold Blood." It's a remake, and
> while the original 1967 version is in the database, the
> remake is not. I'm sure it would be appreciated if you
> were to add an entry, given that you've actually seen it.

hmm i could be an idiot, but is the imdb the database, cause if it is than i really didnt know how to search for it when i didnt know the names of anyone except for anthony edwards, and only casue he was on top gun.
but yes i belive you have found it.
Tuesday March 04 17:32:38 2003
Re: trying to name movie
> > Raffish
> >
> > A quick trip to the IMDb suggests that you're thinking
> of
> > the 1996 TV movie "In Cold Blood." It's a remake, and
>
> > while the original 1967 version is in the database, the
>
> > remake is not. I'm sure it would be appreciated if you
>
> > were to add an entry, given that you've actually seen
> it.

aye indeed that is the movie. i dotn think i remember enough of it to make an entry though, but i think its pretty much the same as the 67 one, only i dont remember any fondling. anyone else seen it?
Shammy
Tuesday March 04 17:51:34 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> > > > This movie should be taken from the database

> It should have been kept in the DB. I taped the scene
> and thought it was a keeper.

If I've been following this correctly, there is a bondage scene in the movie but it's a crappy one. This is the kind of thing that *should* be in the database, so we can look it up and decide not to watch.

Ideally, the database should include every movie ever made, with at least a yes or no.
Paul
Tuesday March 04 18:04:25 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> If I've been following this correctly, there is a bondage
> scene in the movie but it's a crappy one. This is the
> kind of thing that *should* be in the database, so we can
> look it up and decide not to watch.
>
> Ideally, the database should include every movie ever
> made, with at least a yes or no.
There is NO bondage in this movie. NO part of the damsel is ever shown. All you hear is her mmpphhing in the back seat of a car.

Krusty
www.thesimpsons.com
Tuesday March 04 19:06:55 2003
Summer Camp Movies
Are there any movies or TV episodes set in summer camps that have B & G scenes or at least tie-up scenes? That kind of thing seems to be common at summer camps since, for one thing, thebielsite.com always has a section for camp photos. The movies would prabably be more realistic if they had such scenes.

I recently bought DVDs of "Meatballs" and "Little Darlings", two summer camp movies from my teen years, hoping to find deleted bondage scenes. But no luck. I had always wanted to see Kristy McNichol and Tatum O'Neal, who starred in the latter movie, bound and gagged.
Mr. Steve
Tuesday March 04 19:40:01 2003
Re: Summer Camp Movies
> Are there any movies or TV episodes set in summer camps
> that have B & G scenes or at least tie-up scenes?

IIRC Addams Family Values has a full treatment scene.

Pat Powers
Tuesday March 04 20:31:26 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> > > > This movie should be taken from the database
> >
>
> It should have been kept in the DB. I taped the scene
> and thought it was a keeper.


Um....why?? There was no bondage in it...at all. Just sounds that if you didn't know a girl had been kidnapped could have been mistaken for just about anything OTHER than a girl mmmphhh-ing thru a (supposed) gag. I thought that in order to qualify as a "bondage scene" there probably ought to be some bondage in it. Just a crazy thought.

Just because you know a girl is tied up in a car, if they don't show her, I wouldn't think it ought to be in the Database where some poor boob could waste time recording & scanning thru the dumb movie only to find there isn't any bondage in it at all. Yep, that's what I did. It's in the same vein as a bad guy in a Western telling the hero his girlfriend is tied & gagged in the next room & you might hear some muffled shouts from the room, but they never show her. Is that a scene?
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Tuesday March 04 20:31:30 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
> I have a couple. Alyssa Milano's tape-gag scene from
> CHARMED a couple of years ago did nothing for me. Also,
> Reese Witherspoon in BEST LAID PLANS was just... blah.

Alyssa Milano's scene was great(8 out of 10) for me. I just wish they show a better shot with her in that nice short business skirt. I wish she get the treatment one more time on Charmed even though she doesn't look nearly as hot as she once did during the first couple of seasons.

Paco The Bandit
Tuesday March 04 20:33:19 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
>Reese Witherspoon
> Wow...I'll just have to differ with you guys, then.

So will I. They were absolutely wonderful scenes IMO, and there was nothing wrong with her acting. She was even gagged!
Funny how differently we can look at the same scene.
Per
Tuesday March 04 21:01:57 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
Absolute greatest miscarriage of justice was an episode of Lois & Clark where Lois was tied to a chair, gagged - but the only shots shown were taken from behind...

BTW, this weeks update is posted early - enjoy



Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
www.geocities.com/silent_night_022003
Tuesday March 04 21:13:37 2003
Re: Summer Camp Movies
> Are there any movies or TV episodes set in summer camps
> that have B & G scenes or at least tie-up scenes?

Title: Sleepaway Camp III (1989) aka Sleepaway Camp 3: Teenage Wasteland
Medium: Movie
Actress: Tracy Griffith, Kim Wall, Pamela Springsteen, Sonya Maddox

Description: Cheap "slasher movie" with a death rate of about one corpse every five minutes and an unexpectedly large number of bondage scenes.

Angela (Pamela Springsteen), Cindy (Kim Wall, both about 40 min in) and Marcia (Tracy Griffith, 50 min in) all participate in a "trust walk" where they are tightly blindfolded with pieces of cloth and their hands are tied behind them with rope. They are then led through the forest by a camp mate. Considering the type of movie, don't be surprised that one of them does not survive the game. In a similar kind of game, Angela is tied together with a guy, her right arm to his left and her right leg to his left one.

During the final climax (about 70 min) three of the camp kids are tied together with rope forming some kind of rope gang: two guys and Anita (Sonya Maddox). Her hands are tied behind. The three are told to look for Marcia, and find her in a cabin, bound hands in front, feet tied, and cleave gagged. Turns out that she is the bait in another death trap.
All girls are uniformly dressed in camp sweat shirts and jeans.

There were reports that Kashina Kessler is also gagged late in the movie. In fact, she plays the first murder victim; her character's demise takes place even before the opening credits. No bondage scene for her.
Gagged Damsel Lover
Tuesday March 04 22:18:47 2003
Re: Boomtown ballgag DiD
> she IS the first ballgagged
> damsel in a network TV show.

I could be wrong but I believe Jenny McCarthy was ballgagged in her short lived sitcom on NBC a few years ago.
Bond265
Tuesday March 04 22:28:48 2003
Re: trying to name movie
> > Raffish
> >
> > A quick trip to the IMDb suggests that you're thinking
> of
> > the 1996 TV movie "In Cold Blood." It's a remake, and
>
> > while the original 1967 version is in the database, the
>
> > remake is not. I'm sure it would be appreciated if you
>
> > were to add an entry, given that you've actually seen
> it.
>
> hmm i could be an idiot, but is the imdb the database

Nope. It's *a* database -- but not the same as Brian's, which has a more specialized purpose. You should definitely visit the link below, because I think most of us would agree that it would be hard to find a single more useful movie resource on the web.
Raffish
http://www.imdb.com
Tuesday March 04 22:52:11 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
> Absolute greatest miscarriage of justice was an episode
> of Lois & Clark where Lois was tied to a chair, gagged -
> but the only shots shown were taken from behind...
>

And just to show that we've got a wide variety of kinks here-- that one might be my fave of Ms Hatcher's scenes (I assume we're thinking of the same one-- the one with Emma Samms).
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Tuesday March 04 22:53:16 2003
Re: Boomtown ballgag DiD
> > she IS the first ballgagged
> > damsel in a network TV show.
>
> I could be wrong but I believe Jenny McCarthy was
> ballgagged in her short lived sitcom on NBC a few years ago.


I believe that was on MTV, and hence not, technically, a "network TV show".
Jeb
Tuesday March 04 22:56:12 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?
> > Absolute greatest miscarriage of justice was an episode
>
> > of Lois & Clark where Lois was tied to a chair, gagged
> -
> > but the only shots shown were taken from behind...
> >
>
> And just to show that we've got a wide variety of kinks
> here-- that one might be my fave of Ms Hatcher's scenes
> (I assume we're thinking of the same one-- the one with
> Emma Samms).

No, I believe the one he's referring to was the one with Teri tied & gagged along with (I think) the guy who played "Booger" on the "Revenge of the Nerds" movies. They are seen actually from the back, and Lois's gag comes off before we ever see a face shot. The episode with Emma Samms showed a couple nice front shots of Teri gagged.

JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Tuesday March 04 22:59:16 2003
Re: Elvira
>
> I'm on the case. :) Here are the clues from Elvira's
> website: In 1984 there was an "Elvira's Halloween
> Special" on MTV, and she also made an apperance on "Solid
> Gold". In 1985, a video series called "Elvira's Thriller
> Videos" was released. In 1988, Elvira hosted "Friday Night Videos."



I have a scene from a video show she hosted with the cast of Saved By The Bell. At the end they left her tied up in front of a tv forcing her to watch the entire series of full House.
Mark C
Tuesday March 04 23:06:15 2003
Re: Salem Witch Trials
> might have something in it. Remember that it is a
> two-parter!

Worthwhile scenes in Part II ?
Tuesday March 04 23:26:20 2003
1st Net Ballgag: "Sonny Spoon"?
Going to need some help from the veterans on this one, but IIRC this short-lived NBC series (starring Mario Van Peebles as a P.I.) had the first ballgag. Here's what I remember:

Peebles and a cohort (a hot brunette whose name I can't remember for the life of me right now) are trying to locate a female killer, but it turns out it's a guy in drag and he captures the above-mentioned cohort. The next time we see her, the killer is in mid-rant and the camera pans over to her seated on a box or something. Her hands are tied behind her back and I'm 99% sure she was ballgagged. I hadn't seen one before and I remember thinking: "Okay, she's gagged...but what the hell IS that?"

Independent confirmation, anyone?
DAK
Tuesday March 04 23:33:20 2003
Re: Nightmare in Columbia County- Deleted
> Um....why?? There was no bondage in it...at all.

Trying to sort this over on Data-Base Corrections,
if you've any input you'd like to contribute?
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Tuesday March 04 23:34:28 2003
Re: Disappointing scenes?

> They are seen actually from the back, and Lois's gag
> comes off before we ever see a face shot. The episode
> with Emma Samms showed a couple nice front shots of Teri gagged.

You are correct, SIR!!

Ed MacMahon

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