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| Saturday April 26 01:11:38 2003 This week's update |
| This week: Francesca Annis in Dune, Reiko Aylesworth in One Life To Live, Jane Badler in The Highwayman "The Summer Of '45", Sandra Nelson in Two "Between The Lines", Gwendolyn Pacey in Friday The 13th: The Series "Vanity's Mirror", and Emma Samms in General Hospital. |
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| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/ |
| Saturday April 26 01:25:08 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > Nobody's posted about this yet? The scene on the coming
> attractions last week--Tiffani tied to a chair, getting a > needle stuck in her--was the very last scene. The old > so-you-think-you've-been-able-to-quit-your-heroin-habit > move. Is this show cancelled? Is Tiffani/Billy forever > consigned to bondage limbo? "Fastlane" sinks to new lows with this setup. I've heard of promoing a sexy scene, but the very last sequence shown a week in advance? Gina Tognoni didn't even have anything on the table to gag her with. The cliffhanger ending has to be a straetgy on the part of the producers who are trying to stave off cancellation by thinking the ending will create a write-in campaign to save the show so fans will see a conclusion. They might also think the network won't want to cancel a show that has at least some fans talking. As much as I'd enjoy seeing this canceled, maybe the producers are finally getting it. Another season would likely lead to more Tiffani scenes. Remember, Teri Hatcher wasn't gagged on "Lois and Clark" until Season 2. I don't think FOX will show mercy. IT'S GONE. |
| Brian W. |
| Saturday April 26 01:57:28 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > As much as I'd enjoy seeing this canceled, maybe the
> producers are finally getting it. Another season would > likely lead to more Tiffani scenes. Remember, Teri > Hatcher wasn't gagged on "Lois and Clark" until Season 2. > I don't think FOX will show mercy. IT'S GONE. I was disappointed by the scene. The episode wasn't worth watching. I will not miss the show. |
| Saturday April 26 03:26:46 2003 GENERAL HOSPITAL |
| Wow, it must be kink-week at GH. First Cyndi Preston gets the treatment with an un-impressive tape gag. Now a younger,cuter blond is b+g the right way. WITH A TIGHT CLEVE!! Glad to see this gal get it as she escaped the gag about a month ago when she was also kidnapped but only blindfolded. Scenes for Monday looked good as the cleve was even tighter in her mouth!! |
| FAIZON |
| Saturday April 26 04:12:21 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| >
> "Fastlane" sinks to new lows with this setup...Gina Tognoni didn't even have anything on the table to gag her with...Hatcher wasn't gagged on "Lois and Clark" until Season 2...I don't think FOX will show mercy. IT'S GONE... Cripes! You Gag Snobs gotta have 'em even when one isn't really called for in the context of the scene. I had the impression that the villainess would have been perfectly happy to have La Tiffany scream her head off in a setting that looked like it might be a basement or some such. I thought Tiffany looked pretty damned appealing in her sort of frazzled disarray. And it looked like she was pretty securely bound to that highback chair. On the other hand, I have no love lost for the show. Cancel away, I say. |
| Overlooker |
| Saturday April 26 07:08:29 2003 Re: Three's Company Scene Does Exist |
| > The episode is titled Chrissy's Night Out and guest stars
> James Cromwell as Det. Lannigan. Jack ko's Lannigan for > calling Chrissy a hooker. When Lannigan comes to, Janet > explains what is going on and Jack, behind her, > cleave-gags her with the scarf he is holding. I saw it on > it's original run and taped it on PRIME a couple of years ago. When Jack hits the cop, he hurts his hand so he gets a red cloth to wrap it. When Janet tells off the cop, Jack uses the cloth to cleave her. |
| Saturday April 26 07:17:38 2003 Mummy Talks |
| But Michelle doesn't |
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| Saturday April 26 07:37:55 2003 Fastlane |
| > > "Fastlane" sinks to new lows with this setup...Gina Tognoni didn't even have anything on the table to gag her
> with...I don't think FOX will show mercy. IT'S GONE... > > > > Cripes! You Gag Snobs gotta have 'em even when one isn't really called for in the context of the scene. I had the impression that the villainess would have been perfectly happy to have La Tiffany scream her head off in a setting that looked like it might be a basement or some such... On the other hand, I have no love lost for the show. Cancel away, I say. ---------- And even on the (apparently) final episode, the Fastlane scriptwriters managed to make the least of a promising DiD setup. What numerous other scriptwriters have done (e.g., The Avengers "The Bird Who Knew Too Much"; Cobra, Joy Ride, etc.): Villainess: "I've set up a deathtrap, so that when your partners come thru that door to rescue you, you''ll be killed! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!!! And to prevent you from spoiling the surprise, I'll have to gag you now!" Viewers would get a nice closeup shot of Tiffani receiving an Onscreen gagging, then a lengthy sequence of her frantically struggling against her bonds and mmphing thru her gag to try to warn her would-be rescuers. What the Fastlane scriptwriters did with the storyline: Let's make Thiessen as grungy as possible. We'll have the villainess get her strung-out on heroin! She'll be so out of it and not knowing what end is up, she'll be in no position to make an escape attempt (let alone need to be gagged). Put this turkey out of its misery, please! |
| Kinky-napper |
| Saturday April 26 12:32:42 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > What the Fastlane scriptwriters did with the storyline:
> Let's make Thiessen as grungy as possible. We'll have > the villainess get her strung-out on heroin! She'll be so > out of it and not knowing what end is up, she'll be in no > position to make an escape attempt (let alone need to be > gagged). Put this turkey out of its misery, please! Well said. I'm sure Tiffani will have other chances in her career to get bound and gagged. I'm just glad the writers and producers will be looking for work. Serves 'em right for all the male bondage scenes they produced on this show. |
| Brian W. |
| Saturday April 26 12:52:31 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > And even on the (apparently) final episode, the Fastlane
> scriptwriters managed to make the least of a promising > DiD setup. > > What numerous other scriptwriters have done (e.g., The > Avengers "The Bird Who Knew Too Much"; Cobra, Joy Ride, > etc.): > > Villainess: "I've set up a deathtrap, so that when your > partners come thru that door to rescue you, you''ll be > killed! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!!! And to prevent you from spoiling > the surprise, I'll have to gag you now!" > > Viewers would get a nice closeup shot of Tiffani > receiving an Onscreen gagging, then a lengthy sequence of > her frantically struggling against her bonds and mmphing > thru her gag to try to warn her would-be rescuers. > > What the Fastlane scriptwriters did with the storyline: > Let's make Thiessen as grungy as possible. We'll have > the villainess get her strung-out on heroin! She'll be so > out of it and not knowing what end is up, she'll be in no > position to make an escape attempt (let alone need to be > gagged). Once again, Kinky-napper comes up with a much better concept than the so called professionals (i.e. the creative team writers/producers/directors of Fastlane). From what I have seen and heard, the show should be called "Fastlane to Nowhere", or "Fastlane to Bad DID Scenes". I think that if Kinky-napper was writing this show it wouldn't be on the chop list right now. Here's to hoping Kinky-napper gets into TV writing or screenwriting. His talents would be greatly appreciated! |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Saturday April 26 12:53:59 2003 Re: Mummy Talks |
| > But Michelle doesn't
That's a good one! Nice post too! |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Saturday April 26 13:05:48 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > Cripes! You Gag Snobs gotta have 'em even when one isn't
> really called for in the context of the scene. I had the > impression that the villainess would have been perfectly > happy to have La Tiffany scream her head off in a setting > that looked like it might be a basement or some such. I > thought Tiffany looked pretty damned appealing in her > sort of frazzled disarray. And it looked like she was > pretty securely bound to that highback chair. I cannot agree with you, Overlooker. Just because Tiffany is in a basement does not mean that yelling for help would be a useless exercise. For all we know, there could be somebody nearby (upstairs, on the street, etc.) who is unaware of her perdicament and could come to Tiffany's aid if she screamed or called for help. People have big ears, especially for calls of distress. This circumstance is true in almost any situation short of a sound proof room of some kind. In addition, from what I understand, the scene is not an interrogation scene. IMO, the only time a gag is not called for in a bondage scene is if the scene is an interrogation scene. Hence, I believe that a gag is called for in Tiffany's scene. I think many people, botn gag purists and people who are not gag purists would agree. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Saturday April 26 13:13:31 2003 Re: Scene on General Hospital today |
| > And here is the cap of it.
Good work, G-man! I appreciate the speed, too! And big attaboys for the writers and other members of the creative team of General Hospital (GH). A solid full treatment scene coming within days of another full treatment scene. Good choice of actress for the damsel and what seems to be a decent plot line! It can be done, folks! Maybe the if only the Fastlane creative team was half as good! |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Saturday April 26 13:19:52 2003 Re: "The Power" Fails to Produce |
| > a pic of Suzanne from the
> waist up (tied I assume, although you can't see any > ropes) with one of those big triangle gags like in the > old Westerns being tied around her mouth by a young > George Hamilton. Is it clear that he's *tying* it rather than untying? If so, it's a scene that never was intended to be in the movie. Just a publicity photo intended to lure folks like us to see the movie. Or, charitably, to convey that the movie is a melodrama. |
| Paul |
| Saturday April 26 13:26:23 2003 Re: DID Burnout |
| > Well, I can name a host of actresses I would love to get
> sick of seeing B&G. Hehe. > > Honestly, the only thing that might get tiresome for me > would be seeing the same actress get tied up the same way > every time. The Superman, Noel Neill thing could sort of > fit this criteria, as they used the hospital-colored OTM > on her numerous times. > > Eh, who am I kidding? Tie and gag the same actress as > much as you like my naughty little writers/directors. I > will never complain about the abundance of bondage. I'm with you T.S.! Sure I would like to see variety, but I'm not going to complain about it if i don't get it. As for the old Superman series, it is true that the gaggage had little variety (usually white or other light colored cloth OTMs), and the same damsel got all but one ot two of the full treament scenes. However, there was some variety in the gaggage including railroad track tie. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Saturday April 26 13:48:09 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > Once again, Kinky-napper comes up with a much better
> concept than the so called professionals Even if "Fastlane" were renewed, it's unlikely we'd get a pickup from the exact same spot. They wouldn't likely open the season with Tiffani tied up in the basement. We'd probably get the "six months later" line at the start with Tiffani wandering the streets as a heroin addict with the two leads looking for her and Gina Tognoni likely not even in any more episodes. Cliffhangars are no guarantee to resume, even if the show gets renewed, as we saw with Kelly Hu bound and gagged and taken away in a helicopter in the season finale of "Marshal Law" and then they never even picked it up the next season despite all the main characters returning. That one still boggles my mind. What were they thinking? |
| Brian W. |
| Saturday April 26 13:59:07 2003 Re: Scene on General Hospital today |
| And here is the cap of it.
Don't follow the soaps closely so clued out on this one - anyone got the background on this scene, or knows if it's an ongoing thing next week. |
| Major John |
| silent_night_022003 |
| www.fuzzweb.com |
| Saturday April 26 14:07:51 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > as we saw with Kelly Hu bound and gagged
> and taken away in a helicopter in the season finale of > "Marshal Law" and then they never even picked it up the > next season despite all the main characters returning. > That one still boggles my mind. What were they thinking? Actually several of the main characters from Martial Law got involved in other projects when that show was cancelled at the end of that season. It was brought back by viewer fan mail but with three major characters missing it was impossible to pick up right where they left off. |
| Mark C |
| Saturday April 26 14:21:05 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| i know the show hasnt been good for DIDs er anything. But its pretty good still. every ep that ive seen has been either okay or just plain good. i mean i see no reason to cancel it. its actually one of the shows worth watchin now and days. its fun, thrilling, and just plain cool. so dont take it out just because there werent any DID scenes. just like it cuz its fun
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| Saturday April 26 14:46:06 2003 Adventure, Inc. pops |
| This weeks' ep of Adventure Inc. has a very nice chloro of a cute young Indian (Bollywood Indian) woman getting chloro'd to unconsciusness. I didn't catch ALL of the next scene, but what I did catch showed her standing with her hands behind her back as if bound there while her kidnappers act mean (but don't harm her). In a subsequent rescue scene, I was hoping to see her bound and gagged, but she was neither bound nor gagged, just locked in a room.
Pathetic, all told. Promos for next week show an attractive woman and a guy bound in back to back chair ties. No gags, but of course the promo is just a tiny bit of the scene most of the time. |
| Pat Powers |
| Saturday April 26 14:55:39 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| Put me down as another who's glad to see it go.
I think TAT has an absolutely beautiful face, and I'd LOVE to see her in a major scene. What's more, I think it's conceivable that Fastlane may eventually produce one. If they ever incorporate a BDSM theme into the show they'd have no problem with doing a bang-up job of restraining TAT in a major way. But I don't think they take their DiDs seriously. In fact, I find it almost physically irritating to watch the show because I don't think they take ANYTHING seriously except showing off the three young leads as eye candy. Especially the guys, which prolly explains all the guy scenes. I do't feel that I'm watching an interesting drama when I watch the show, I feel like I'm looking at a series of magazine layouts showing a bunch of attractive young models posing in various ways so that they'll look like they're acting. I've yet to buy so much as a minute of the show. Frankly, it would take TAT in a naked hogtie and a cock gag doing some serious writhing due to some strategically implanted vibrators to make up for what a colossally annoying bore Fastlane is. Ain't gonna happen. So cancel away. |
| Pat Powers |
| Saturday April 26 14:56:42 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > > as we saw with Kelly Hu bound and gagged
> > and taken away in a helicopter in the season finale of > > > "Marshal Law" and then they never even picked it up the > > > next season despite all the main characters returning. > > > That one still boggles my mind. What were they > thinking? > > Actually several of the main characters from Martial Law > got involved in other projects when that show was > cancelled at the end of that season. It was brought back > by viewer fan mail but with three major characters > missing it was impossible to pick up right where they left off. Not really. The only main characters needed in that storyline were Sammo and Kelly Hu, both of whom came back. The last sequence of Season 1 was Sammo falling from the helicopter and Kelly Hu being whisked away by the bad guys while bound and gagged. The other people in the copter were guest stars and the people on the ground were not needed when the second season rolled around. |
| Brian W. |
| Saturday April 26 18:19:23 2003 Re: Fastlane / Martial Law |
| > > > as we saw with Kelly Hu bound and gagged
> > > and taken away in a helicopter in the season finale > of > > > > > "Marshal Law" and then they never even picked it up > the > > > > > next season despite all the main characters > returning. > > > > > That one still boggles my mind. What were they > > thinking? > > > > Actually several of the main characters from Martial > Law > > got involved in other projects when that show was > > cancelled at the end of that season. It was brought > back > > by viewer fan mail but with three major characters > > missing it was impossible to pick up right where they > left off. > > Not really. The only main characters needed in that > storyline were Sammo and Kelly Hu, both of whom came > back. The last sequence of Season 1 was Sammo falling > from the helicopter and Kelly Hu being whisked away by > the bad guys while bound and gagged. The other people in > the copter were guest stars and the people on the ground > were not needed when the second season rolled around. I enjoyed "Martial Law", but I couldn't believe how they virtually never had Kelly Hu's character Grace get KOed and tied up. I know she was depicted as a "tough woman", but I don't believe it would have taken away from her character if she had actually lost a fight every once in a while (say, every third or fourth episode!), got knocked out, captured, and tied up. If they had included more scenes like that, the show's ratings would have been higher, and it would have stayed on the air longer! |
| gytalf2000 |
| Saturday April 26 18:19:58 2003 Re: Fastlane / Martial Law |
| > > > as we saw with Kelly Hu bound and gagged
> > > and taken away in a helicopter in the season finale > of > > > > > "Marshal Law" and then they never even picked it up > the > > > > > next season despite all the main characters > returning. > > > > > That one still boggles my mind. What were they > > thinking? > > > > Actually several of the main characters from Martial > Law > > got involved in other projects when that show was > > cancelled at the end of that season. It was brought > back > > by viewer fan mail but with three major characters > > missing it was impossible to pick up right where they > left off. > > Not really. The only main characters needed in that > storyline were Sammo and Kelly Hu, both of whom came > back. The last sequence of Season 1 was Sammo falling > from the helicopter and Kelly Hu being whisked away by > the bad guys while bound and gagged. The other people in > the copter were guest stars and the people on the ground > were not needed when the second season rolled around. I enjoyed "Martial Law", but I couldn't believe how they virtually never had Kelly Hu's character Grace get KOed and tied up. I know she was depicted as a "tough woman", but I don't believe it would have taken away from her character if she had actually lost a fight every once in a while (say, every third or fourth episode!), got knocked out, captured, and tied up. If they had included more scenes like that, the show's ratings would have been higher, and it would have stayed on the air longer! |
| gytalf2000 |
| Saturday April 26 18:36:01 2003 Re: Fastlane |
| > but with three major characters
> > missing it was impossible to pick up right where they > left off. > > Not really. The only main characters needed in that > storyline were Sammo and Kelly Hu, both of whom came > back. The last sequence of Season 1 was Sammo falling > from the helicopter and Kelly Hu being whisked away by > the bad guys while bound and gagged. The other people in > the copter were guest stars and the people on the ground > were not needed when the second season rolled around. They explained that Lie Hei died in the fall but picking up right where they left off without Louis or the Lt. wouldn't have made sense to most poeple. They would have had to make up some cheezy story about there sudden disappearence just to conclude her did scene and without Lie Hei it would have been tuff to carry that story through an hour long episode. They didn't establish any other villian character enough to have him take over and keep Pei Pei captive. Sure they could have introduced a new character but with two other characters missing it was easier to jump ahead and assume that Pei Pei was released by the chopper pilot when his boss died or that a police chopper was able to chase them down before they got far. I'm sure the only people who think that story needed to be continued were the did fans and that's a smaller group than many of us want to believe. |
| Mark C |
| Saturday April 26 18:42:13 2003 Re: Fastlane / Martial Law |
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> I enjoyed "Martial Law", but I couldn't believe how > they virtually never had Kelly Hu's character Grace get > KOed and tied up. 4 scenes ain't bad for a main character in a short lived show. Not to mention several scenes for other guest characters |
| Mark C |
| Saturday April 26 18:42:32 2003 Martial Law |
| Well When seson one ended the show was taken over by new producers, and they wanted to put everything having to do with the old ones behind them. I believe that is why it didnt pick up with that story line. In closing I think that is a bold statement; "If there where more bondage the ratings would have been higher", That is a tough call to me anyway. |
| Dogg |
| Saturday April 26 18:52:32 2003 Re: Martial Law |
| > In closing I
> think that is a bold statement; "If there where more > bondage the ratings would have been higher", That is a > tough call to me anyway. I'd have to say bondage scenes have no effect whatsoever on ratings. It's just one small factor people consider when watching a show; most watchers don't even consider it at all. As Mark C said, we are just a small community. Besides, how many have of us DiD watchers have Nielson boxes anyway? |
| LV |
| Saturday April 26 18:57:58 2003 Re: Fastlane / Martial Law |
| Hi guys. I'm new here and I never saw this show or kelly Hu's scene but she has been on the top of my wish list since I first saw her in Scorpion King. Are there any pictures of this scene on line anywhere?
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| Stalker |
| Saturday April 26 19:52:27 2003 Re: "The Power" Fails to Produce |
| > > a pic of Suzanne from the
> > waist up (tied I assume, although you can't see any > > ropes) with one of those big triangle gags like in the > > old Westerns being tied around her mouth by a young > > George Hamilton. > > Is it clear that he's *tying* it rather than untying? If > so, it's a scene that never was intended to be in the > movie. Just a publicity photo intended to lure folks like > us to see the movie. Or, charitably, to convey that the > movie is a melodrama. Fer cryin' out loud... The scene of George rescuing (& *UN*-gagging) a B&G'd Suzanne was shot, and wound up on the cutting room floor---Mystery Solved! It happens all the time. That's why all the new DVDs are coming out with "bonus footage" or "deleted scenes;" the film editors have stopped taking out the trash. We should feel grateful the publicity still from "The Power" wasn't lost. |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Saturday April 26 20:08:35 2003 Re: Scene on General Hospital today |
| > Don't follow the soaps closely so clued out on this one -
> anyone got the background on this scene, or knows if it's > an ongoing thing next week. Well, John, SOMEthing will last at least through Monday's show, considering there are TWO damsels captured at this point. As promised, I posted a video clip containing BOTH scenes in the Daytime Damsels section - plus I'll update at the first of the week with whatever happens. |
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| Bindher |
| bindher@bindher.com |
| http://www.bindher.com |
| Saturday April 26 21:07:49 2003 Identity |
| No scenes in the new movie "Identity". The person shown tied up in the previews is a guy. |
| Viking |
| Saturday April 26 21:14:40 2003 Re: "The Power" Fails to Produce |
| Excellent point Van. I have been very interested in this scene ever since I saw the photo in bondage life magazine. Brent Smith told me that he knows a guy in Germany that had a full copy of it off of German TV with the scene in question. There was some kind of accident and it was erased. Hope is comes up anyway. It does happen; someone accidentally erased my pink floyd video !
On the subject of the go go's on that VH1 80 s show they have film of Belinda and that short hair brunet both saying that they like being tied up ! I also have a new scene to report on the movie " porkies" for those of us who like to see a sock in a cute girls mouth. We should feel grateful the publicity still from "The Power" wasn't lost. |
| Alex Bond |
| http://www.sosbound.com |
| Saturday April 26 21:31:08 2003 As The World Turns |
| Since I was sitting home alone, I read thru a bunch of soap spoilers and found this tidbit:
Week of April 28-May 2 - A mysterious person grabs Molly. Molly is a hot brunette who has recently been screwing a guy with criminal enemies, so there's a fair chance she'll be bound and gagged this coming week. |
| dateless wonder |
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