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Tuesday May 13 00:05:10 2003
Howard Stern
I was just flipping around and came across the Howard Stern show on E! and there was some woman bound with her legs wide open being tickled. It is continued in the next episode. She is not gagged. I only saw the very end of this.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday May 13 00:08:40 2003
Re: ABC TV Movie
> I saw previews for a movie on ABC tonight (Monday) "The
> Diary of Ellen Rimbauer", which showed a women dressed in
> an Victorian dress tied spread eagle on a bed. The woman
> was not gagged. The movie apparently is a prequel to the
> Stephen King/ABC mini-series "Rose Red" that ran last
> year. The movie runs from 8-10 CDT.

The scene from the previews in which Ellen Rimbauer (played by Lisa Brenner) is shown tied to the bed occured at exactly the 30 minute mark, directly following a commercial break. She is spreadeagled (but not gagged) by her husband. He then tears her nightgown open (not shown, cuz it's ABC) and drips water from ice cubes on her bare chest before the off-screen love scene.

Later, Ellen and her personal attendant (a lovely African-American actress) go in search of a missing chambermaid in a secret passage way of the house. They see a vision of the chambermaid hanging by her wrists from chains. It's just a vision, provided by the haunted house. Happens at about the 50-minute mark.

As it turns out, Ellen's husband has been sneaking women into the house for extramarital affairs. When Ellen discovers her husband greeting one of these ladies by a secret entrance, she is handgagged by her attendant to prevent her gasps from being audible. This happened at the 52 minute mark. I wasn't taping at this point, and missed this short but sweet shot, unfortunately.

There's no bondage after that, but there are a few alluring images of the ladies that the cheating husband seduces throughout the show.




KEVIN
Tuesday May 13 02:36:40 2003
"She Spies" finale
“She Spies” ends its season this week on a high note (see alerts). As predicted last fall, for sheer bindings (not so many gags) it’s hard to think of a series that’s done better: by my count, 14 of 20 episodes.
Bob
Tuesday May 13 03:26:30 2003
Re: She Spies , CSI
> > > Natasha Hendstridge dressed as a flight attendent
> > > completely gauze head wrapped sitting in a chair.
>
> I suspect Henstridge wanted to take a week off.
>
That would make 2 of the last 3 episodes where Henstridge had just about no screen time. In her B&G episode, she was only in the first and last scenes, and likewise in this week's episode, if we assume that wasn't her running around with the wrapped head, which, as posted earlier, may have been the dumbest thing on TV this whole season.

I also now know why I record "Crossing Jordan" instead of "CSI: Miami." There was a tape-gagged female in the opening, but she was covered in blood. They recreated her tie-up later in flashbacks, but funky camerawork prevented anything worth seeing.
Brian W.
Tuesday May 13 06:46:21 2003
Re: Bye Bye Cordy!
>>> Good News: *Angel* has been picked up for new season
Spike will be joining the cast as a regular.<<<<

I can do with a lot less Spike, but that IS good news!


>>>When the beautiful star of your series starts partying all night & gaining weight,<<<

Is that reakky what happened to her? I thought she was pregnant in real life or something. I don't mind a little baby fat but sheesh...
The Greyman
Tuesday May 13 06:52:12 2003
Re: NBC Network News
>>>>while giving on-the-bubble shows
"Boomtown," "Ed" and "Good Morning Miami" a reprieve. All
three earned full-season orders for 2003-04<<<<

Great news about Boomtown, a quality show that produces good scenes. The other two are unwatchable dreck.
The Greyman
vincegrey@thegreyman.net
www.thegreyman.net
Tuesday May 13 08:02:51 2003
Question about a scene
Hello

I am looking for a movie that I have seen a few years ago.
The movie's date should be somewhere around 1990 - 1995.
Ok, the scene is as follows (as long as I remember):
A woman is tied with her hands over head in an old barn.
The barn door is open, so it is all very well lighten.
She is gagged too. The killer/psychopath is threaten her.

Ok, I know this is not much but I can give you a little bit more.
First, I could swear that the woman was Gina Gershon. But I have
already tried imdb.com and non of her movies fits the plot that
I remember. The next two actresses I have tried were Charlize Theron
and Ashley Judd but it was the same.

Here is what I can remember about the plot. A woman (the DID)
is driving through the desert (Arizona or something else in the USA)
with her own car. It's something like a roadtrip. She is a little bit
crazy and always wore something like a cowboy or military hat with
those wrapped brims. Anyhow both, she and the killer, get together
(hitchhiking, car breakdown or something else) and drive together
through the desert.

That is all I can remember. I hope someone can help me.

Thanks in advance
Marco
Marco
merlin@plynesianislands.zzn.com
Tuesday May 13 08:10:10 2003
Murphy's Law D'oh!
Murphy's Law (UK cop show) produced a great tie and taut multi-wrap tapegag scene last night, on - you guessed it - a bloke!

Still, three full treatments in as many eps is going some, and if Murphy's gorgeous reckless boss ever gets it, let's hope the close-ups and mmmphing are as good as last night's.

Sadly, with the honourable exception of Chandler & Co, The Avengers and a few others, it seems putzes get the best scenes on British TV. If a change is afoot, it's welcome, and to be encouraged.
Snag Gob
Tuesday May 13 08:18:49 2003
Re: Eliza Dushku getting the treatment
> > > Checked out the new "Fangoria" magazine and there's a
>
> > > great, if shadowy, shot of Eliza tied to the bed and
>
> > > gagged.
>
> And what show/movie is this from??


It's from the movie "Wrong Turn" which should be out this summer at some point.
Tuesday May 13 08:20:30 2003
Re: Bye Bye Cordy!
> >>>When the beautiful star of your series starts partying
> all night & gaining weight,<<<
>
> Is that reakky what happened to her? I thought she was
> pregnant in real life or something. I don't mind a little
> baby fat but sheesh...

She is pregnant in r/l, and it's speculated that the decision to write her out is as much hers as Whedon's. However, it's also true that Ms Carpenter has had a reputation as a hard-partyin' gal, which supposedly nearly got her canned from both "Buffy", and later "Angel". Maybe a bit of R&R (if you can call raising a new baby that!) is what she needs... that, and a break from the appalling hairstyles of the past couple of seasons.

Anyway (to try to remain topical here), she gave us a better pair of scenes than some toothsome actresses have had the opportunity to do in their whole careers, so I look forward to her maturing a tad, and re-emerging as the star of many "women in jeopardy" movies on Lifetime.

Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Tuesday May 13 08:47:39 2003
Re: Question about a scene
> Here is what I can remember about the plot. A woman (the
> DID)
> is driving through the desert (Arizona or something else
> in the USA)
> with her own car.

Sounds like American Perfekt in which case your damsel would be Fairuza Balk. Fairuza is tied near the door of the barn, hands behind, with a noose around her neck.

Pat Powers
Tuesday May 13 09:05:01 2003
Re: Murphy's Law D'oh!
According to next week's Radio Times, Tommy Murphy is "trussed up like a chicken" in the final scene of the series. No mention of boss Annie Guthrie, but one can hope... :)

A second series is planned, and if that too has a tie-up in every show, it's gotta produce something good.
Snag Gob
Tuesday May 13 09:27:57 2003
Re: Question about a scene
> Sounds like American Perfekt in which case your damsel
> would be Fairuza Balk. Fairuza is tied near the door of
> the barn, hands behind, with a noose around her neck.

Yes, you are absolutely right. That is the movie. I have searched imdb and in the plot they mentioned the coin flipping thing. Now I can remember. But man was I wrong... I could swear that she was tied hands over head...

Ok, thank you
Marco
Tuesday May 13 09:35:36 2003
Re: Eliza Dushku getting the treatment
>
> Sounds like "Wrong Turn". Here's the synopsis from
> IMDB:
>
> A carload of six teens find themselves trapped in the
> woods of West Virginia, hunted down by "cannibalistic
> mountain men grossly disfigured through generations of
> in-breeding."

We seem to be getting quite a few movies like this. House of 1000 corpses, Wrong Turn, and there's a remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre due in the fall.




spyder
Tuesday May 13 09:44:30 2003
Re: Eliza Dushku getting the treatment
> We seem to be getting quite a few movies like this. House
> of 1000 corpses, Wrong Turn, and there's a remake of
> Texas Chainsaw Massacre due in the fall.
>
I was thinking the same thing spyder. Maybe Hollywood has gotten past all the P.C. stuff and we're seeing a revival of the kind of 70's horror flicks that produced so many classic tie-up scenes. Jessica Biel and Eliza Dushku would be a good start!
MadFish
Tuesday May 13 10:25:37 2003
Killer Workout?
Record number: 4840

Title: Aerobicide (1986) aka Killer Workout
Medium: Movie
Actress: Diane Copeland

Description: Cute blonde gets tied to a work-out bench (wouldn't you have guessed it?) cleave-gagged with white cloth in her lycra outfit. The scene was a bit short, abrupt somehow, so part of it seemed to be edited, maybe there was more.

Does this scene actually exist?I have this movie on an original vhs and cant find it after sitting through it twice.
steve
strangehighway@aol.com
http://www.underduress.com
Tuesday May 13 10:30:02 2003
Jolly Roper
Anyone know what has happened to Pat Powers's site (Pat?). It seems to have been replaced by a porn gateway!!
DB
Tuesday May 13 11:15:32 2003
WB News
The pickups are: the dramas "Tarzan & Jane" and "Fearless...

In primetime, "Fearless," starring Rachael Leigh Cook (news) as a young FBI agent, has landed the Tuesday 9 p.m. berth behind "Gilmore Girls." ...

Sarah Wayne Callies, has been cast as Jane in the modern-day version of Edgar Rice Burroughs' tale of Lord Greystoke. The project centers on Tarzan as a young man as he is brought from the jungle to his childhood home, New York, by his uncle, the head of powerful Greystoke Enterprises, and revolves around Tarzan's relationship with Jane, a fiery police detective.



Tuesday May 13 11:23:02 2003
ABC News
"The Practice" has been given a reprieve, and "Dragnet" is having some work done, beginning with a name change to "L.A.'s Dragnet."
http://tv.zap2it.com/shows/features/features.html?31562
Tuesday May 13 12:20:06 2003
Re: "She Spies" finale
> “She Spies” ends its season this week on a high note (see
> alerts).
Couldn't find the alert,Bob-what happens?
Tuesday May 13 12:31:55 2003
Re: Eliza Dushku getting the treatment
> Checked out the new "Fangoria" magazine and there's a
> great, if shadowy, shot of Eliza tied to the bed and
> gagged. In the feature, she mentions "The hardest part of
> the shoot was being tied to that bed for two weeks.
> Laying there gagged while being tortured, there were
> times where my mind started to wander because I couldn't
> get free."

I have been waiting for that for so long!Sweet!And at long last Alexis Denisof will be avenged!WESLEY: Won't she find it difficult - enjoying delicious,
jelly-filled doughnuts, if she is - one assumes - bound and gagged? ...

Tuesday May 13 12:46:11 2003
New ABC show
Here's a new ABC show for this fall that might have potential:Karen Sisco
Premise: Based on the Elmore Leonard character played by Jennifer Lopez in the movie "Out of Sight," Carla Gugino stars as the U.S. marsshal working the Miami Gold Coast who only really trusts her father.
Stars: Carla Gugino ("Spin City"), Robert Forster and Bill Duke
Viking
Tuesday May 13 12:51:41 2003
Re: "She Spies" finale
> > “She Spies” ends its season this week on a high note
> (see
> > alerts).
> Couldn't find the alert,Bob-what happens?

The alert is listed on Thursday, May 15. All three tied up. No gags.
Brian W.
Tuesday May 13 14:12:25 2003
Re: Jolly Roper
> Anyone know what has happened to Pat Powers's site
> (Pat?). It seems to have been replaced by a porn gateway!!

I'm having a bit of difficulty with my ISP involving their not getting last month's payment. I'm trying to contact them and straighten things out, but they won't respond to emails and their phone is always busy. Hmmm ...
Pat Powers
Tuesday May 13 14:14:51 2003
Re: WB News

> Sarah Wayne Callies, has been cast as Jane in the
> modern-day version of Edgar Rice Burroughs' tale of Lord
> Greystoke.

Hopefully Jane will be spending a lot of her time in the jungle where they still favor the bit gags over duct tape.





Major John
Tuesday May 13 14:31:46 2003
Re: Eliza Dushku getting the treatment

I couldn't agree with you more.


spyder
Tuesday May 13 14:42:14 2003
In-Laws, House of Fools, Hunger 2
On the new movie "In-Laws", Lindsay Sloane and Candice Bergen will
be bound to chair, no gag with several guys. (May 23, 2003).
(Arm bound to the armrest). Can someone put the data in DB?

House of Fools (2002) This is some sort of Russian / Checnya mad
house comedy (similar to One Flew ...). The movie is the winner of
the Venetian Movie Festival. Is there any Strait Jacket scene with
the main actress (Yulina / Janna)?

On Hunger 2, there is an episode about serial killer on an apartment
A woman was grabbed (dressed in her underwear), bound, tape gagged,
blindfolded using duct tape, and killed. Later the police found
her body (not bound, not gagged), but with Polaroid picture of
of the bondage and torture scenes. Is this belong in the database?

The scene itself is NOT shown, only the Polaroid pictures.
Asian
Tuesday May 13 15:09:21 2003
Re: WB News
> Hopefully Jane will be spending a lot of her time in the
> jungle where they still favor the bit gags over duct
> tape.
>

I don't think Jane has ever been gagged. Even that 90's Tarzan TV series didn't bother gagging Lydie Denier's cute Jane (they saved it for the stupid teen putz lead character).




Ned
Tuesday May 13 15:22:16 2003
Tonight's Smallville
Dr. Walden (Rob Labelle) wakes up from his coma and tells Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Lionel (John Glover) that Clark (Tom Welling) is an alien and must be destroyed. Meanwhile, a romantic encounter between Clark and Lana (Kristin Kreuk) hints at a promising future, but after Chloe (Allison Mack) finds out they are together, Lana pulls back.
______________________________________________________

It will be interesting (and nice) if the show manages a B&G scene foe Lana or Chloe in the two-part finale.
Tuesday May 13 15:39:30 2003
Help vids
Ola ola
Which is the title of this film?
Who is the actress in the scene of the film?

I would be very happy if you could give me the link to the site of IMBD.com

Thanks.

Andrew.
Andrew
http://www.geocities.com/hello80it/vids.jpg
Tuesday May 13 16:11:38 2003
She spies
According to the alert:

<<Day: Thursday May 15 2003
Time: varies ---
Channel: syndicated
In the last half-hour of “We’ll Be Right Back”, all three women are bound (no gags). Kristen Miller is tied front-to-front with putz interference. Natasha Henstridge and Natashia Williams are tied front-to-front with each other. >>


Interesting... Don't think I've ever seen two women tied front to front before.. Are they well tied? Can anyone think of any comparable scene?
ss
Tuesday May 13 16:26:05 2003
Help vids
> Ola ola
Which is the title of this film?
Who is the actress in the scene of the film?
>
I would be very happy if you could give me the link to the site of IMBD.com
---------
Internet Movie Database's URL is IMDB.com, rather than IMBD.com.
Kinky-napper
www.imdb.com
Tuesday May 13 16:44:47 2003
Re: She spies
> In the last half-hour of “We’ll Be Right Back”, all three
> women are bound (no gags). Kristen Miller is tied
> front-to-front with putz interference. Natasha Henstridge
> and Natashia Williams are tied front-to-front with each
> other. >>

Of the three, only Natashia Williams, the gorgeous African-American She-Spy, has evaded the full treatment, being bound and gagged. Natasha Henstridge, the most famous actress of the three, has been bound and gagged twice, and Kristen Miller, the other blonde, has been bound and gagged once(not very convincingly, I might add). Perhaps Natashia Williams will be bound and gagged in one of the early episodes in the upcoming season. It certainly is her turn.
Hadji
Tuesday May 13 16:51:04 2003
Re: Killer Workout?
> Record number: 4840
>
> Title: Aerobicide (1986) aka Killer Workout
> Medium: Movie
> Actress: Diane Copeland
>
> Description: Cute blonde gets tied to a work-out bench
> (wouldn't you have guessed it?) cleave-gagged with white
> cloth in her lycra outfit. The scene was a bit short,
> abrupt somehow, so part of it seemed to be edited, maybe
> there was more.
>
> Does this scene actually exist?I have this movie on an
> original vhs and cant find it after sitting through it
> twice.

I, too, recall watching this inane movie, and not seeing any women bound and gagged. Perhaps there was a brief scene that was excised from the version released on video.
I do recall, however, a movie with a similar motif entitled "Death Spa", with an enjoyable bondage scene. In this movie, a comely gym patron, played by Brenda Bakke, is bound and gagged while wearing a bikini to a tanning bed that the villain has modified to cook her alive. She is cleave-gagged, and the scene is reasonably lengthy, and there is quite a few delectable muffled cries for help from Ms. Bakke.

Hadji
Tuesday May 13 16:59:58 2003
Re: Killer Workout?
> I, too, recall watching this inane movie, and not seeing
> any women bound and gagged.

At least Diane Copeland had a nice B&G scene in 'Mankillers' (with two companions)
Tuesday May 13 17:20:01 2003
Tied hands under trick?
Just watched "Lone Star State of Mind" and I'm wondering about this escape tactic we've seen so much of over the years: The damsel slipping her tied hands under her behind and under the feet in front to escape. First of all, if the hands are even remotely tied well, this is impossible. Second, most females have short arms, making it even more impossible.

The only way a female could use this escape tactic is if the hands are tied so far apart to allow the damsel to spread them far wide enough to get her hands underneath her behind and up in front. Jamie King's hands were taped, which makes it impossible to pull that maneuver, even if her hands were taped loosely.

With rope, it might be possible if the damsel can loosen it wide enough. The first time I saw that trick was Kristy Tesreau in "Guiding Light." But she started tied tight and worked her ropes loose enough to eventually get them underneath and in front.

Lately, I see the damsel pulling this stunt while tied tight and tape-tied. Any thoughts?
Brian W.
Tuesday May 13 18:22:52 2003
Tied hands under trick?
>...I'm wondering about this escape tactic we've seen so much of over the years: The damsel slipping her tied hands under her behind and under the feet in front to escape.

... Any thoughts?
-------------
X-Files ("Orison") Gillian Anderson.
Forever Knight ("Trophy Girl") Lisa Ryder.
Fastlane.

I'm inclined to chalk these up to that good ol' requirement of TV/movie viewing: "Suspension of Disbelief"...
Kinky-napper
Tuesday May 13 18:36:40 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?
> >...I'm wondering about this escape tactic we've seen so
> much of over the years: The damsel slipping her tied
> hands under her behind and under the feet in front to
> escape.
>
> ... Any thoughts?
> -------------
> X-Files ("Orison") Gillian Anderson.
> Forever Knight ("Trophy Girl") Lisa Ryder.
> Fastlane.
>
> I'm inclined to chalk these up to that good ol'
> requirement of TV/movie viewing: "Suspension of Disbelief"...

-------
"Suspension of Disbelief?" ...try "Dose of Reality!" If a damsel is fit & reasonably spry, it's *perfectly reasonable* they could slip their bound hands past their hips & move their hands from back to front. That's why cops use belly chains.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Tuesday May 13 18:46:13 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?
> Lately, I see the damsel pulling this stunt while tied tight and tape-tied. Any thoughts?

I don't believe that I have see this particular situation lately. However, your point is well taken. If the damsel's hands are securely tied behind her back, it would be impossible for her to pull the tied hans under trick. Therefore, IMO, either the tie was a major loosie or the scene is so unrealisitic it is a crock. However, I would guess that the writer/director types would think that they ask the audience to suspend belief about so many thins why not this situation as well.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Tuesday May 13 20:08:45 2003
Re: WB News
> > Sarah Wayne Callies, has been cast as Jane in the
> > modern-day version of Edgar Rice Burroughs' tale of
> > Lord Greystoke.
>
> Hopefully Jane will be spending a lot of her time in the
> jungle where they still favor the bit gags over duct
> tape.

-------
Pay attention, Major. The WB's pulling another *Smallville*. They paid top dollar for the Tarzan franchise... so naturally they want to turn it on its ear & screw it up. Tarzan-in-New-York is an *EPISODE*... not an entire series. Even if they cast a Nicole Kidman clone as Jane, make her a lingerie model, & B&G her *three times* an episode, I'll still watch it thinking "yeah... but where's the damn jungle?" WB Morons! :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Tuesday May 13 20:10:34 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?
> "Suspension of Disbelief?" ...try "Dose of Reality!" If
> a damsel is fit & reasonably spry, it's *perfectly
> reasonable* they could slip their bound hands past their
> hips & move their hands from back to front. That's why
> cops use belly chains.

I don't think so. I present exhibit A: Heather Thomas. I know she didn't do an escape in this scene, but look at her hands tied tight behind her back. No way those arms could fit underneath and move them to the front. And I'd say Heather was pretty fit and spry.
http://www.stevesdidsite.com/galleries/gallery15/jody1.jpg
Brian W.
Tuesday May 13 20:15:00 2003
Que Pasa U.S.A.
Does anyone have any clips of a Cuban show that was in the 70'S call "QUE PASA U.S.A." There was an episode where all the family members and their friends were bound, but not gagged.I would really like to see. The daughter,and 2of her friends, one who looks just like Jackie from "That's70 Show" had just come back from the beach and are wearing the sexiest swimsuits. I was very upset that the women were not gagged, but the guy did handgagged the grandma.
Gbabyman@aol.com
Tuesday May 13 20:31:51 2003
Re: She Spies , CSI

> I also now know why I record "Crossing Jordan" instead of
> "CSI: Miami." There was a tape-gagged female in the
> opening, but she was covered in blood. They recreated her
> tie-up later in flashbacks, but funky camerawork
> prevented anything worth seeing.

What do you mean? Crossing Jordan wasn't on last night,
and the only scene from CSI-Miami was a guy.


Brian R
Tuesday May 13 20:57:32 2003
Re: She Spies , CSI
> What do you mean? Crossing Jordan wasn't on last night,

That's why I recorded "CSI" because Jordan wasn't on.

> and the only scene from CSI-Miami was a guy.
>
You're right. Sorry, my mistake. I only fast-forwarded through it quickly and saw the bushy and long blonde hair and blood and didn't listen to any dialogue and certainly didn't watch it again until you mentioned the error. Later, I saw the the female detailing the scene and thought it was a female she was describing.
Brian W.
Tuesday May 13 21:02:21 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?
> > If a damsel is fit & reasonably spry, it's *perfectly
> > reasonable* they could slip their bound hands past
> > their hips & move their hands from back to front.
> > That's why cops use belly chains.
>
> I don't think so. I present exhibit A: Heather Thomas. I
> know she didn't do an escape in this scene, but look at
> her hands tied tight behind her back. No way those arms
> could fit underneath and move them to the front. And I'd
> say Heather was pretty fit and spry.

I know the back-to-front switcheroo is possible, 'cause I've seen it. The relevant variables are physique of the damsel, tightness of the ropes, & the amount of clothing she has to slide past. Maestro Saudelli has an excellent illustration of La Bionda pulling the maneuver in "Bondage Palace," but I don't know where the image is posted to the web (for free.)

The only way to settle this is scientifically. I suggest everyone should bind a convenient damsel & see if she can do it (meaning the back-to-front maneuver, of course.) :-) Start with the damsel naked & well oiled, then repeat with swimsuit, exercise clothes, street clothes, cheerleader outfit, leather catsuit, etc., hoop skirt, space suit, etc., etc. :-) ...& since a sample size of one simply won't do, get a fresh damsel & repeat, repeat, repeat...
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Tuesday May 13 21:53:26 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?

> I know the back-to-front switcheroo is possible, 'cause
> I've seen it...

Me too... It was in some Arabian Nights-type movie, possibly "Thief of Bagdad" -- not the June Duprez version but maybe the 1952 or 1960 version? A wiry little chick is tied up and promptly gets her hands out in front of her and frees herself. Haven't seen the movie in years, so I can't attest as to how much space may have been between her hands, but it was pretty darned impressive.
Alzheimer
Tuesday May 13 21:58:43 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?
> I know the back-to-front switcheroo is possible, 'cause
> I've seen it. The relevant variables are physique of the
> damsel, tightness of the ropes, & the amount of clothing
> she has to slide past.

The other relevant variable is the would-be escape artiste's willingness to 'suffer for her art'--as the cliche goes, "No pain, no gain". An amateur escapologist friend points out that much of what's involved in escaping from a real challenge or an actual distress scenario requires strength and pain as much as imagination and experience.

Van, I like your idea for a test. Don't forget lots of videotape! Sounds like an excellent premise for a "reality show".
Tuesday May 13 22:02:11 2003
All My Children - potential alert
From previews, Mia (Amelia Heinle) will be hand-gagged by a masked gunman on tomorrow's show. The intruder broke into a house to kill a child witness to his previous murder and has already knocked out and tied up a putz bodyguard who was the only one at home. Mia showed up with gifts as a surprise for the child. I'd like to think that since the gunman tied up the putz rather than kill him, he will also tie and gag Mia.
chubby
Tuesday May 13 22:02:27 2003
Re: Tied hands under trick?
> Van, I like your idea for a test. Don't forget lots of
> videotape! Sounds like an excellent premise for a "reality show".

Oh, yeah...that was me. Sorry.
Rich McGill

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