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Saturday May 10 00:14:43 2003
Re: OLTL clips
> Clips of this afternoon's action with Bree Williamson

Raffish, thanks for the excellent clip; I forgot to tape it so much appreciated.

I think it is the scene of the year so far because Bree is so hot, and the two pieces of tape was great, the struggle was very good, however, it is no classic, bad wardrobe (in fact the only time she has not looked hot), I hate duct tape, esp. with those great lips (a white cleave would have been major), arms to side are boring, the tape across the collar bone was original but it didn't add anything. Sorry, just MHO.

Saturday May 10 00:31:58 2003
Re: Without a Trace
> > The missing woman must be bound and gagged somewhere
> > since the thug is holding everyone else hostage.
>
Mark my words, the victim is his partner and part of the plan to get him money
Barnaby
Saturday May 10 01:03:56 2003
Re: Bad Girls & bit gags
> Are there any examples of bit gags being used in the real
> world, outside of B&D "pony" scenarios?

I don't know if it's EXACTLY a bit gag, but back in the bad old days when they treated some forms of mental illness with electroshock therapy, they did put a gag of sorts in the patient's mouth to keep them from biting their tongues off. Victims of violent epileptic seizures also had things inserted intheir mouths to prevent them from biting their tongues during convulsions. Since the patients, even if fully voluntary, wouldn't have control over their bodies there must be some way to secjure them in place.

I think anticonvulsive drugs have largely made these procedures unneccesary nowadays.

In the U.S. prisoners who spit or bite their jailers are considered a health risk due to widespread HIV infections among prisoners. They are therefore forced to wear hoods. NO one is being forced to wear gags for this reason that I know of, but it could be happening in some jurisdictions.

Bit gags also might be favored in the real world because they permit prisoners to breathe readily through their mouths if their noses clog up.

Pat Powers
Saturday May 10 01:04:29 2003
Re: OLTL clips

> Raffish, thanks for the excellent clip; I forgot to tape
> it so much appreciated.

For those with SoapNet, repeats will be shown over the
weekend. Check your listings.
Brian R
Saturday May 10 01:22:31 2003
Re: Bad Girls & bit gags
> I don't know if it's EXACTLY a bit gag, but back in the
> bad old days when they treated some forms of mental
> illness with electroshock therapy

To make my posts relevant: there have been quite a few movies and TV shows in which electroshock patients are gagged: La Femme Nikita, Reanimator, Pycho Beach Party and (the worst of the lot by far) Requiem for a Dream. In PBP, Requiem and LFN, the gags weren't secured, though. I doubt it worked that way in real life.

> In the U.S. prisoners ... are therefore forced to wear hoods.

I think I've seen a couple of movies in which (male) prisoners are hooded prior to execution, but no scenes involving women in hoods in a modern prison.

> Bit gags also might be favored in the real world because
> they permit prisoners to breathe readily through their mouths if their noses clog up.

They might also be popular with movie and TV scenes for the same reason, esp. if the actresse's nose is clogged.
Pat Powers
Saturday May 10 02:28:11 2003
Second Time Around
Another quick cap/clip set on the international page...
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/SecondTimeAround/SecondTimeAround.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck
Saturday May 10 02:35:44 2003
Scare tactics
Just watched this Sci-Fi show with Shannen Doherty. They don't seem to mind exploiting the females, so I'm betting something will eventually develop here if they keep making new episodes. Tonight's episode had a female strapped up in just her undies to two wooden poles in some kind of outdoor sacrifice ritual. It looked lame from the start. Maybe Shannen will succeed where he former "Charmed" co-stars have failed miserably. Shannen also brought her nice wardrobe from "Charmed" over to the new show.
Brian W.
Saturday May 10 08:41:36 2003
Re: Bree rocks, movie alert
> Also, there is a new PAX movie from 8-10 tonight with
> Cynthia Gibb called "Crime of Passion." Some type of
> mystery but the description at least provides some hope for a scene.

Is this a remake of the original:
A Crime of Passion 1999
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0225442
Tracey Gold (Alyssa)
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Gold,+Tracey
Database # 2044
http://bindherupx.net/passion1.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/passion4.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/videos.htm
Saturday May 10 10:07:42 2003
Re: Recent DB Entry Question
> Btw: Bad Girls Official Site (Homepage Link) has a nice
> cap of the bit-gag scene, if anyone interested.

Re that link, you may want to take a look at the Karen Betts character. I think Claire King is quite a looker, and the episode in which she is taken hostage airs next Thursday, a lot sooner than I actually anticipated.
Whilst I'm pessimistic that she will get the ropes, it being so soon after Miss Stephenson's scenes, I fervently hope that she does.
Martin
Saturday May 10 10:10:11 2003
UKMAN - Bad Girls
Ukman, just to let you know that Bad Girls is repeating on ITV2 (SKY Digital 226) next Wednesday night (14 May) at 11.00pm.
Hope you can get ITV2 my man.
Martin
Saturday May 10 10:20:35 2003
UKMAN - Bad Girls Alert
Mr Moderator, hope you don't mind me putting what is technically a VCR alert there for Ukman, since I know he missed Bad Girls on Thursday.
Just that I assume that your VCR alerts page is purely for North America, and so I wanted to put a personal tip in for a fellow Briton, as I know he definitely reads the message forum, but perhaps not your VCR alerts.
Apologies if I'm out of order.
Martin
Saturday May 10 11:22:05 2003
Slave Heat DVD Set
I know Lloyd Simandl repeats himself in his movies, but five DVDs for £20 must be worth a look.

http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000077847
DB
Saturday May 10 12:14:22 2003
Re: UKMAN - Bad Girls Alert
> Mr Moderator, hope you don't mind me putting what is
> technically a VCR alert there for Ukman

That's fine.
The Moderator
Saturday May 10 12:46:19 2003
Bit gag, hood
>Real world

Baldyman, a british comedy show also feature bit gag in the hospital. The main character (putz) is in hospital and a sadistic nurse with a super giant needle approach the poor patient. She put a bit gag on his mouth. After the injection, the bit gag is destroyed (chewed by the patient!)

>Hood
A reality based show about Cop ("Global Cop") also show hood on female criminal (in Eastern Europe). The local narco cops are trained by DEA on how to capture the crooks. The narration: "the hood will decrease the resistance by the criminals".
asian
Saturday May 10 12:53:41 2003
Re: One Life to Live
...and the same actor tied and gagged a stunning beauty on "Another World" in the early 1990s when he moved his tack over there. I can't remember her name, but he had her locked the attic and cleave-gagged for several episodes.


- I'm pretty sure the scene you're describing was on "Santa Barbara". The character's name was Flame and the actress was the ungodly hot Roberta Weiss (from the original "Abducted"). Great scene, too- she was tied to a chair in the attic and wearing a tight (and thick) cleave gag. Good mmph-ing and closeups. Don't suppose anybody out there has a cap or video file of this scene....?
Saturday May 10 13:05:11 2003
whole lotta nothing
Save your VCRs. Nuttin' on Adventure Inc this weekend. Ditto for the Pax movie "Crime of Passion" last night.
Chris
Saturday May 10 13:19:48 2003
Re: One Life to Live
> ...and the same actor tied and gagged a stunning beauty
> on "Another World" in the early 1990s >
>
> - I'm pretty sure the scene you're describing was on
> "Santa Barbara". The character's name was Flame and the
> actress was the ungodly hot Roberta Weiss (from the
> original "Abducted"). Great scene, too- she was tied to a
> chair in the attic and wearing a tight (and thick) cleave
> gag. Good mmph-ing and closeups. Don't suppose anybody
> out there has a cap or video file of this scene....?

You're right, it was "Santa Barbara," which was a paradise for Did scenes in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Marcy Walker was heading for super stardom at that point but she hasn't done any scenes since the early 1990s, when she did at least five gag scenes between the soaps and her short-lived network TV show.
Brian W.
Saturday May 10 13:21:21 2003
Re: Bree rocks, movie alert
> > Also, there is a new PAX movie from 8-10 tonight with
> > Cynthia Gibb called "Crime of Passion." Is this a remake of the original:
> A Crime of Passion 1999

We wish. I believe no connection. Just a coincidence. If only.
Brian W.
Saturday May 10 13:33:37 2003
Counterstrike "I Remember It Well"
Caps and clips in the usual place. No gags, but some nice struggling...and I gotta appreciate Ms. Claire's top. :)
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/Counterstrike-IRememberIt/Counterstrike-IRememberIt.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck
Saturday May 10 13:41:38 2003
Re: UKMAN - Bad Girls
> Ukman, just to let you know that Bad Girls is repeating
> on ITV2 (SKY Digital 226) next Wednesday night (14 May)
> at 11.00pm.
> Hope you can get ITV2 my man.

Thanks very much for taking the trouble to let me know of the repeat on ITV2. I have Sky so this is no problem and looking forward to it as I am sure all UK side fans are who missed this.
UKman
Saturday May 10 14:23:52 2003
Re: Bad Girls & bit gags
> To make my posts relevant: there have been quite a few
> movies and TV shows in which electroshock patients are
> gagged: La Femme Nikita, Reanimator, Pycho Beach Party
> and (the worst of the lot by far) Requiem for a Dream.

Also Marcia Cross on Melrose Place, and I think I saw a movie on TV some years ago called "Lies" where a girl was electroed while gagged too with some kind of device similar to a ball gag.
Anubis
Saturday May 10 14:24:48 2003
Sweating Bullets "His Pay Joey"
Fun little cap/clip set from Canada. This is *her* sexual fantasy, and *he* can't get into it? Move over, Rover, and let anyone here take over...
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/SweatingBullets-HisPalJoey/SweatingBullets-HisPalJoey.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/
Saturday May 10 14:32:03 2003
Re: Bree rocks, movie alert
> We also often complain when soap storylines clearly call
> for a gag and none come (Greenlee's two tie-ups on AMC
> come to mind), but this was one sequence when the gag
> wasn't really necessary and yet it was used. Dorian could
> have easily just handgagged Jessica during the quick call
> to Mitch and they held her in an abandoned building, so
> no need to gag her there.

I can't agree with you on this point Brian W. IMO, based on what you described, it would make more sense to gag her. First, there is always the chance that the damsel could break free of the handgag, especially if the bad guy has to use the other hand to make a phone call. Second, even in an abandoned buliding there is still the chance that someone on the street, or a squatter in the building could hear the damsel's screams. While these risks are low, they do exist. Why should the bad guy take these risks when even a modestly effective gag will greatly reduce them? As I have said before, the only time a gag does not make sense is if the tie up is part of an interrogation scene. However, I would give the show's creative team credt for realizing my point.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday May 10 15:33:05 2003
Re: One Life to Live
>>
> - I'm pretty sure the scene you're describing was on
> "Santa Barbara". The character's name was Flame and the
> actress was the ungodly hot Roberta Weiss (from the
> original "Abducted"). Great scene, too- she was tied to a
> chair in the attic and wearing a tight (and thick) cleave
> gag. Good mmph-ing and closeups. Don't suppose anybody
> out there has a cap or video file of this scene....?

as a matter of a fact I have that on a tape ~~Somewhere~~ I'm really trying to get them all organized then make copies & learn how to vidcap.

that actor (mitch) was also involved with the Awesome Kelly capwell (Carrington Garland) kidnapping plot from Santa barbara caps on fuzz's site of an incredible brunette (michelle nicostra) tied face to face with a putz was part of that storyline.. Fuzz i just found out ther name again that's why I didn't inform you sooner. :)
Snowcat
Saturday May 10 16:09:33 2003
Re: Counterstrike "I Remember It Well"
> Caps and clips in the usual place. No gags, but some
> nice struggling...and I gotta appreciate Ms. Claire's
> top. :)

With gags, I think this one could have been in the top 5 all time winners - thanks raffish.

Major John
silent_night_022003
http://www.fuzzweb.org
Saturday May 10 21:23:59 2003
Re: Counterstrike "I Remember It Well"
> > Caps and clips in the usual place. No gags, but some
> > nice struggling...and I gotta appreciate Ms. Claire's
> > top. :)
>
> With gags, I think this one could have been in the top 5
> all time winners - thanks raffish.
>

Although gag-snobs should be able to get with that part where one of the damsels grabs a handbag by her mouth and struggles with it. I've always loved the two gratuitious extra damsels in the final scene. What was the explanation (if any)for them being there? "A couple of babes want to get a spot on an episode of counterstrike" "I think we might be able to squeeze them in..."

ss
Saturday May 10 22:17:50 2003
One Life to Live
So is the One Life to Live scene w/ the new Jessica over? I"m not gonna be able to watch it or record it Monday so I wondered if I need to try & find a frfiend to tape it for me. thanks
Saturday May 10 22:45:38 2003
Re: Bad Girls & bit gags
> > To make my posts relevant: there have been quite a few
>
> > movies and TV shows in which electroshock patients are
>
> > gagged: La Femme Nikita, Reanimator, Pycho Beach Party
>
> > and (the worst of the lot by far) Requiem for a Dream.
>
>
> Also Marcia Cross on Melrose Place, and I think I saw a
> movie on TV some years ago called "Lies" where a girl was
> electroed while gagged too with some kind of device
> similar to a ball gag.

The damsel in distress in the movie "Lies" was Anne Dusenberry; her character was duped into entering a mental hospital. When she proved to be a recalcitrant patient, she underwent electroshock therapy; she was strapped to a medical gurney and gagged with some device consisting of a plug inserted into the mouth and a plug securing it in place.

Hadji
Saturday May 10 23:03:09 2003
The Agency
Scene takes place in the last 5 minutes. you can press record when she gets rear ended at a stop sign.
Mark C
Saturday May 10 23:06:13 2003
The Agency
The Paige Turco scene occurs at the very end of the episode as the cliffhanger.
She is shown having her hands tied behind her back (looked like plastic cuffs), then having her mouth taped. She is shoved into the trunk and the scene fades. She lets out a few nice grunts as this happens.
The coming attractions show a hazy shot of her B&G in trunk, and later a couple of shots of her tied up on a chair (no gag).
LV
Saturday May 10 23:08:23 2003
The Agency
Paige Turco's bound and gagged scene occurs within the last 15 minutes of the episode. More specifically, it happens at the end of the episode right after she gets into a minor automobile collision. The collision is a ruse, and the couple in the car behind her take her captive. They bind and gag her and stick her in the car trunk. Then it says "To be continued." The preview for next week's episode shows her bound and being held hostage.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Saturday May 10 23:51:19 2003
Re: Counterstrike "I Remember It Well"
> I've always loved the two gratuitious extra damsels in
> the final scene. What was the explanation (if any) for > them being there? "A couple of babes want to get a
> spot on an episode of counterstrike"
> "I think we might be able to squeeze them in..."

Whew...so it's not just me, though I'll admit that my search of an explanation for the presence of those two extra damsels was limited to a medium-speed scan of the tape and a recheck of the database entry. (What, me watch an entire episode of Counterstrike?)

It's almost as though the bad guys were secretly white slavers who simply used diamond theft as a side racket. Seems like a good gig.
Raffish
Saturday May 10 23:58:12 2003
Re: The Agency
> Scene takes place in the last 5 minutes. you can press
> record when she gets rear ended at a stop sign.

Her, or her car?

Looking forward to it two hours from now,
Raffish

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