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Monday April 21 00:13:52 2003
Re: Attn: Pat Powers
> Pat,
>
> Your email address at your site does not seem to work for
> me. Can you provide an alternate address, or drop me a
> line at the provided link? Something to ask you. Thanks.

I've sent you an email that will hopefully resolve your problems reaching me.

> On a related note: can Pat (or anyone else) point me to a
> place that entertains discussion of bondage/gag scenes in
> adult films?

I don't know of any such place. There are a few discussion sites that could be used for such purposes, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest ... posts tend to be few and far between. I've been able to get some discussion going on generic sites like the movie discussino threads on Salon, but you tend to spend a certain amount of time arguing with people who think you're a proto-serial killer for being interested in sexual bondage.

I'd love to find out there's some site where they've been tracking such stuff, as there has definitely been stuff going on along those lines in the last few years.
Pat Powers
Monday April 21 01:40:27 2003
Natasha gets it again
Here what was shown on the "She Spies" preview for next week. Natasha Henstridge loosely chained to a chair and loosely cleave-gagged with a red scarf/bandana. She's in her usual black outfit. Quick preview is already better than her prior gag scene. That's two gags for Natasha, one for Kristin Miller. Only Natashia Williams has escaped the gag. But it is sweeps so I won't count her out yet.

"The Division" apparently doesn't rerun its episodes anywhere, but in checking the listings there's a kidnapping in an episode in May. I never know when these episodes are new or old.

Lifetime is also airing "Caroline in the City" reruns, so the nice scene with Lea Thompson and Sofia Miles should be airing soon.
Brian W.
Monday April 21 02:55:49 2003
More Natasha
Lost in the shuffle of next week's preview was another chair tie-up scene (sans gag) for Natasha Henstridge. The scene is a classic example of how the tie-ups and gags on this show are very lame. Natasha is caught snooping in a doctor's office. He then is shown tying her hands to the arms of the chair with what looks like white medical tape. After the She Spies bust in and KO the doctor, watch as Kristin Miller unties Natasha's hands. It's nothing but thin, nonstick medical wrapping, just one small piece, wrapped around.
Brian W.
Monday April 21 03:54:10 2003
Tied and True Tales updated
A very special update this week: the return of Dea's beautiful "Bondage Pin-Ups" with all his work (40+ pictures) after being axed by his old host a couple of years ago - his art features all manner of interesting and intriguing situations; damsel-in-distress imagery, fantasy, humour and love-bondage. As usual, check out the 'Updates' page to see what's new here.
mason
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ttt
Monday April 21 04:36:12 2003
Re: Attn: Pat Powers
> > discussion of bondage/gag scenes
> > adult films?

> I'd love to find out there's some site where they've been
> tracking such stuff,

Been keeping track over on the Anything Goes Page.
Problem being,
not really that common in US rated adult films,
and unable to get English titles for some of the lower budget Japanese ones.

Off-hand, suggest searching on "Adult" or "Japanese" on AG will bring up those alerted to over there so far.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Monday April 21 06:52:01 2003
Re: Helen of Troy (2003)
> > USA network miniseries. Kidnapping and gag in first 18
> minutes of Helen; nice scene..
but her wrists are tied in front as well as
> her ankles.

USA will re-run Part 1 @ 6:00PM EDT Today Monday 4/21


Boyo
Monday April 21 08:20:26 2003
Re: Helen of Troy (2003)

> USA will re-run Part 1 @ 6:00PM EDT Today Monday 4/21

Also, it will be shown coplete Saturday at 6 P.M. ET, 5 CT.

Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Monday April 21 08:26:22 2003
Re: Helen of Troy (2003)
> > > USA network miniseries. Kidnapping and gag in first
> 18
> > minutes of Helen; nice scene..
> but her wrists are tied in front as well as
> > her ankles.
>
> USA will re-run Part 1 @ 6:00PM EDT Today Monday 4/21

Isn't this about the only version of the Iliad that shows Helen being actually kidnapped with ropes and gags? I can't think of any any others offhand ... not that there have been a lot, mostly it's the Odyssey that gets filmed.

Watch the whole thing, it's suprrisingly good -- lots of focus on Helen's feelings of guilt and shame at the way guys keep giving each other multiple stab wounds over her. And there IS also full rearal nudity in the movie -- in a pretty darned sexy scene where Helen walks naked among the fully clothed Trajo-Greekoids (I had a certain amount of trouble keeping track of who was who.)

Made me wonder if there wasn't an additional element of shame for her in that slave women probably ran around naked or practically naked in public, but proper free woman, esp. nobel women, wore clothes in public. I know that different cultures had different rules for treating slaves at different times, though I suspect that a lot of the rules about how you couldn't mistreat slaves were more honored in the breach than in the observance.


Pat Powers
Monday April 21 08:53:44 2003
HOLY GRAIL: The Crazy Kill. aka The fear is spreading
Anyone have caps of this? I remember it well. On screen tying of tight cleave gag on a nice blonde Claire Nielson. She's b and g'ed through the whole darn thing. Lot's of mpphing. A classic.
Beaveher Cleaveher
Monday April 21 09:26:42 2003
Stephanie Cameron Clips
Hello. I'm looking for any possible video bondage clips of Stephanie Cameron wehn she played Jennifer on Days Of Our Lives. She was kidnappped by Travis in her green and white satin pajamas, her hands were tied behnid her, her feet were tied, and she was gagged. She had some escape chances, but Travis was by the door waiting to tie her agiain. I have some pics but it's not enough. If any of you bondage lovers have viedo clips of Cameron, let me know on this page.
Monday April 21 09:34:58 2003
A query.
Hey, does anyone know the name of a song, for which the first couple of minutes of the music video were (in black and white) the (female) lead singer tied to a chair, before eventually struggling free?
Monday April 21 10:27:06 2003
SHE SPIES-GAG TALK?
Check out the cap from Philly's site. see the phone right in front of her? Are you thinking what I'm thinking...?
eddie
Monday April 21 11:56:53 2003
Re: SHE SPIES-GAG TALK?
> Check out the cap from Philly's site. see the phone right
> in front of her? Are you thinking what I'm thinking...?

In the preview clip, Natasha can also been seen B&G in the background when the She Spies guest star is beating up the bad guy. The scene will likely end there. The guest star's voice and face look very familiar but I can't place her.
Brian W.
Monday April 21 12:03:33 2003
Re: Charmed
Nothing on Charmed this week, but ...

and it's not that I'm complaining ...

but if Alyssa Milano's hip huggers hug her any lower on her hips, she's gonna be showing labia crack.
Pat Powers
Monday April 21 13:44:32 2003
Little Dragons pics
Does anyone have any pics of bondage from that movie The Little Dragons? I haven't seen it in years.
Monday April 21 14:57:21 2003
Re: Actresses/Singers bound and gagged in magazines
I have created a website referring to that topic!

It's called "Bound Singers", you can find it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boundsingers

If you are interested, feel free to join!

See you, xc5003

xc5003
xc5003@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boundsingers
Monday April 21 16:14:17 2003
General Hospital alert
On today's episode "Jason" kidnapped "Faith" (played by UberBabe Cyndy Preston).
She was handgagged and carried off. When he finally got her to the hide out she was blindfolded with her hands tied in front. The blindfold was removed. She's tied the same way in the previews. Incidentally the table in the room where she is being held is stocked with more rope & a roll of black Duct-tape.
Lets hope it all gets used.
:^)
Snowcat
Monday April 21 16:23:27 2003
Re: General Hospital alert
>Incidentally the table in
> the room where she is being held is stocked with more
> rope & a roll of black Duct-tape.

Always have to appreciate when the villain comes prepared. None of this grabbing the cord from the lamp, or going into the kitchen looking for a cloth.
Jason
Monday April 21 16:26:10 2003
Re: General Hospital alert

> Always have to appreciate when the villain comes
> prepared. None of this grabbing the cord from the lamp,
> or going into the kitchen looking for a cloth.

Last post was mine. Don't know how Jason got into the nameline on that one.
Brian W.
Monday April 21 16:41:53 2003
More episode titles needed...
First one is from Smallville, I don't have the episode title.

Second one is spanish, I think it's called Diba, but didn't find anything in the DB. Is it a movie, TV show?

The third is from Bigfoot and Wildboy, more caps on Fuzz's site.

Any help is appreciated.
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/extras/smallville04.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/extras/diba01.jpg
http://www.fuzzweb.org/bigfootandwildboy04.JPG
Anubis
Monday April 21 16:49:26 2003
Possibility: New Twilight Zone this Weds
Read on, especially the second story:

Wednesday, April 23, 9PM ET/PT

“The Pharaoh’s Curse”

A world-renowned magician (Xander Berkeley) decides to pass along his most celebrated, mysterious illusion to Mario (Shawn Hatosy), an up-and-coming rival. Mario’s blind ambition to master the trick leads him to an appalling discovery.

“The Collection”

Miranda’s (Jessica Simpson) night of babysitting turns to cold terror when she realizes that the child’s (Ashley Ender) eerily lifelike doll collection may explain the mysterious disappearance of the previous sitters.

Worth a shot maybe to tape? It is Jessica Simpson afterall....

Cartman
Monday April 21 17:25:27 2003
Re: More episode titles needed...
> Second one is spanish, I think it's called Diba, but
> didn't find anything in the DB. Is it a movie, TV show?


Simple mistake, it's 'Dibu,' not 'Diba.' Apparently an Argentine kids movie (The lucky little bastards), according to the DB.
Marlboro Man
Monday April 21 17:49:35 2003
Re: More Natasha
> The
> scene is a classic example of how the tie-ups and gags on
> this show are very lame.

To which I'm sure we can add next week's scene. The gag is so low at the back of her head it has to be just hanging there with the ends loose, Just like her previous gag scene.
Paul
Monday April 21 17:57:52 2003
Re: More Natasha
> It's nothing but thin, nonstick medical wrapping, just one
> small piece, wrapped around.

And next week looks like giant link chains with padlocks; go figure. It's a "dumb" comedy (not meant to be sharp or hip) and I hate all black outfits, you might as well light her whole body in a dark shadow.
Monday April 21 17:58:47 2003
Re: General Hospital alert
> >Incidentally the table in
> > the room where she is being held is stocked with more
> > rope & a roll of black Duct-tape.
>
> Always have to appreciate when the villain comes
> prepared. None of this grabbing the cord from the lamp,
> or going into the kitchen looking for a cloth.

=======

Thanks for the alert. I tuned in just in time to catch the hand-gag & abduction... & then was reminded in *boring* detail why I *HATE* soap operas. A character is kidnapped, & what follows is scene after scene after freakin' scene that have *NOTHING* to do with foxy B&G'd blonde babes! It's like watching paint dry! AAAAARGH!!! :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Monday April 21 18:04:47 2003
Re: General Hospital alert
> On today's episode "Jason" kidnapped "Faith" (played by
> UberBabe Cyndy Preston).
> She was handgagged and carried off.
:^)


Does anybody know a rough scene time for those of us who want to catch it on SoapNet later tonight?



KEVIN
Monday April 21 18:10:26 2003
Re: General Hospital alert
> Does anybody know a rough scene time for those of us who
> want to catch it on SoapNet later tonight?
>
The handgag scene occurs right before the 30min commercial break. A little bit more of the scene occurs after the commericial break. The blindfold scene occurs in the last 10min. of the episode.


MadFish
Monday April 21 18:38:34 2003
Re: More episode titles needed...
> First one is from Smallville, I don't have the episode
> title.

It's from the episode "Visage"
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.eroticdistress.com/gman
Monday April 21 18:41:55 2003
Sword & sandal epics: Kidnappings w/ bondage
> Isn't this about the only version of the Iliad that shows Helen being actually kidnapped with ropes and gags? I can't think of any any others offhand ... not that there have been a lot, mostly it's the Odyssey that gets filmed.
-----------
I hadn't thought about it before, but it is sort of strange that the most well-known tale in literature w/ a kidnapping as a prominent part of the story may not have been interpreted this way on film before.

I'd like to see a similar "interpretation" utilized for Livy's tale of the "Rape of the Sabine Women".

Romulus, king of the new city of Rome, invited surrounding peoples to a festival, and the unsuspecting Sabines came with their families. All was pleasant until, suddenly, their young daughters were gathered in by the Romans like so many prizes at a fair.

Later, when the Sabines attacked in reprisal, the Sabine daughters, now wed to the Romans, intervened between the two sides by placing their bodies and those of their infants between their fathers and husbands, bringing about a peace (the scene from the famous painting "Separation of Fathers and Husbands" by Jacques Louis David).

While neither Homer nor Livy described "bondage" per se in their stories, I'm assuming that none of these damsels went willingly (and gags would've delayed the Sabines from realizing what was happening to their young women).
Kinky-napper
Monday April 21 18:50:54 2003
ATTN Rob
Thanks for re-posting the interview with Christa Sauls.I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Wayne
Monday April 21 19:57:59 2003
Re: Sword & sandal epics: Kidnappings w/ bondage
> > {Snip}
>
> While neither Homer nor Livy described "bondage" per se
> in their stories, I'm assuming that none of these damsels
> went willingly (and gags would've delayed the Sabines
> from realizing what was happening to their young women).

======

Ah... those were the days! Marriage by Abduction... {sigh} Granted, you ran the risk of being disembowled by your bride's relatives, but it *had* to be a *LOT* cheaper than all the nonsense we go through today. Even if you decided to spring for the *really expensive* prenuptial rope and an imported silk scarf for the bridal gag, what were you out? ...a goat or two? :-)~
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Monday April 21 20:15:25 2003
Re: Inquiry
> http://www.imdb.com is your friend.

Um...yes, I guess it is at that! :-)


JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Monday April 21 20:37:41 2003
Ezine biz
Ok, let's look at having a season-ending issue to wrap up the events since last fall. I'd like to get going on it, so we can come out shortly after sweeps end.

As I mentioned, this Hotmail account got zeroed out, so I don't have any email sent there, so any previous offers to help or unimplemented article ideas are toast.

I need volunteers to start cranking out scene reviews, there are quite a few to do. If you want to help with that, but don't know how, drop me email and I'll explain. Check with me first about which ones you want to do, and whether you have caps already.

I have some caps that I've collected, but many other scenes will need them. I'll post a list of ones I do have, then cap people can reference that.

Also, everyone should go over the Scene List and see if there are any missing.

If you have an article or full editorial idea, send me an outline. Letters to the Editor should just be sent in. Note, things are a bit different with the Ezine, if you want to discuss some more fringe topics, like the Joe Millionaire situation, that's fine.

The Editor
ezine_editor@hotmail.com
Monday April 21 21:39:41 2003
Re: Sword & sandal epics: Kidnappings w/ bondage
I like some of the movies, such as:

Wonders Of Aladdin,The 1961
Noelle Adam (Djalma)

But I like the TV shows also:

Adventures of Sinbad,The(Ties That Bind,The)
Jacqueline Collen (Maeve)

Conan(Taming,The)
Julie St. Claire (Princess Hana)
http://bindherupx.net/otm1/noelleadam.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/otm1/jacquelinecollen.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/cgg1/juliestclaire.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/videos.htm
Monday April 21 22:28:47 2003
Re: Sword & sandal epics: Kidnappings w/ bondage

> Ah... those were the days! Marriage by Abduction...
> {sigh} Granted, you ran the risk of being disembowled by
> your bride's relatives,

Yeah, ever wondered why the groom stands to the bride's right? It's a lot easier to draw your blade with the right hand and turn right without bumping into your blushing bride if you're to starboard rather than port.

I have no idea when the somebody came up with the idea securing a piece of cloth or leather over somebody's mouth to induce silence, but I'd suspect someboyd found it a lot more convenient han constantly holding a hand over one's mouth.
Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Monday April 21 22:41:12 2003
WEST COAST ALERT!! - Entre al Amor y el Odio
The scene that many of us have been waiting on and was featured on Raffish's site aired tonight. As far as I can tell, the scene starts around the 12-15' mark and ends around the 25' mark.
MadFish
Monday April 21 22:45:47 2003
RE: Entre el Amor y el Odio
Forgot to mention it's on Univsion.

I only skimmed through my recording, but it doesn't appear the damsel was released or rescued so there may be more tomorrow.
MadFish
Monday April 21 23:36:47 2003
Washington Post article about Kim from "24."
<p>
Thought you guys might like this article. Not much about specific DID material, but the reporter definitely has a sense of what makes "24" appealing to some people:
<p>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64808-2003Apr20.html
<p>
The article begins: "Lord love her, it's not easy being Kim Bauer. The writers of television's "24" would tie her to train tracks if they could, because there's nothing like a barely legal blonde in a tight shirt getting herself in all kinds of trouble, is there, America? In an action-adventure series consisting almost entirely of complicated, nail-biting, may-I-have-an-Ativan-please subplots of global terrorism, the Tuesday night Fox show has fixed on our love of the Pauline caricature in constant peril..."
<p>
They have no idea!
Jeff

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