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| Wednesday April 30 00:40:24 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
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> A quick scene near the end, a waitress (pretty sure it > was Kellie Waymire) is grabbed in her apartment by a > psycho stalker. > Thanks for the headsup. Ms. Waymire was involved in a longer sequence on the UPN came-and-went series FREEDOM. I have a cap set on my site. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Wednesday April 30 01:03:24 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
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> So I believe that would officially end the drought and be > the first female gagged on this show in its nine-year > run. No, I recall at least one other. Let's see what the database says: Record number: 4515 Title: NYPD Blue Medium: TV Series Actress: Unknown Description: Unknown episode When Dennis Franz and fellow cops burst into a gang's apartment, they find a woman tied and cleave-gagged. |
| Brian R |
| Wednesday April 30 02:00:34 2003 Re: Scene cutting and the "Regag" |
| Another example was the "Marathon Angels" episode of Charlie's Angels, where, as I recall, scenes of the two gagged women flipped back and forth between OTM and cleave a couple of times!
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| Mike D |
| Wednesday April 30 05:28:14 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
| > A quick scene near the end, a waitress (pretty sure it
> was Kellie Waymire) is grabbed in her apartment by a > psycho stalker. As the cops burst in, she's seen stripped > to her underwear, unconcious, taped to a chair and gagged > with duct tape. It's difficult to see much until one of > the female cops begins peeling the tape off her mouth. Will there be encore presentations of this episode later in the week? I would really like to see this bondage scene. |
| Hadji |
| Wednesday April 30 06:23:21 2003 Damsels freeing themselves? |
| > > A thought I've been having recently. How many of you like it when a damsel, with difficulty of course, frees herself?
> > > > I really like it because it generally means writhing. And writhing is very, very good. But the dramatic elements are also nice. ------------- Another advantage: Gag-mmphing. If the damsel is just sitting or standing, there's little reason for her to be mmphing through her gag. But if she's struggling, then there could be mmphing sounds -- either grunts of effort, or of frustration, etc. And if she's struggling, she can be displaying various facial expressions during a closeup shot(s). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Wednesday April 30 07:00:26 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
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> But if she's struggling, then there could be mmphing > sounds -- either grunts of effort, or of frustration, > etc. And if she's struggling, she can be displaying > various facial expressions during a closeup shot(s). Of course, a lot don't do that because the loosie gag would just drop off! Good strugglers: Yvonne Craig in "The Brain Killer Affair"; Karen Dotrice in "The Thirty-Nine Steps"; Rhona Anderson in "The Black Rider"; and the damsel in "The XYY Man", sadly probably now lost. Now there was a scene! Hogtie, mouth stuffed to capacity, and a big piece of full-tack white cloth medical tape. Hmmm... most of these are British, and even Ms Craig had classic Scottish looks.:-) Perhaps, too, a lot of actresses and directors consider face-pulling a bit, you know, undignified. Pity. |
| Phimophilus |
| Wednesday April 30 08:26:28 2003 3 days, 5 scenes. |
| That's right folks, I came across these scenes Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, None I had ever seen before, and two were short but unexpected.
Sunday- The 1969 DRAGNET telemovie. This was the first time I'd seen it from the beginning. (I usually joined up somewhere along the line)Best of the bunch,with hands tied in front, upper arms bound, knee and ankle ties and the damsel showing fear. Good directing job, Jack Webb! THE SIMPSONS- early on, the family is singing Christmas carols door to door when they encounter Snake. He says "the family was touched", then turns to look at the family that actually lived there (Mom, Dad, Boy and Girl) B&G, wth the Mom most prominent. Monday- GENERAL HOSPITAL- Although the damsel was only visable from the waist up, it was very similar to the DRAGNET tied, right down the the pristine white hankie cleave gag and blonde DiD. Teusday- SCOOBY DOO- No, not an episode recently dug out of Hanna-Barbera's vaults, but last year's theatrical release. Lame gaggage on Sarah Michelle Gellar, which seems to be more of a parody of bondage. NYPD BLUE- The tape was almost off when I realized the lady was B&G in her undies. Also, it was a "Joined in progress" (for me at least) episode. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Wednesday April 30 10:19:27 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
| > Record number: 4515
> > Title: NYPD Blue > Medium: TV Series > Actress: Unknown > > Description: Unknown episode > > When Dennis Franz and fellow cops burst into a gang's > apartment, they find a woman tied and cleave-gagged. It wasn't much of a scene. The woman was in her 50's and not much of a looker. |
| Wednesday April 30 10:43:36 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
| A shame there weren't any other scenes with Tuesday shows like 24, Buffy, JAG, Angel and Smallville. |
| Wednesday April 30 11:02:28 2003 Sweet Valley High |
| Was the cutie on the right in the TV series? |
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| Wednesday April 30 12:11:49 2003 Re: underrated scenes |
| > > A short while back, someone asked about first rate
> scenes > > that were never talked about... scenes that were "underrated" by our group. Well, today one is being > shown on TV... It's the older movie "This Gun For Hire." > > along the same lines, 2 of my favorite B&W classics... Those are great B&W scenes. Some of my favorites: Frances Gifford in Jungle Girl -- by the way, one of the all time great serials with lots of trouble for the heroine. But one scene stands out -- Nyoka (Gifford) tied to a post and gagged, as a gorilla menaces her. Yeah, hokey as it comes, but they have plenty of shots of her struggling, and as the gorilla approaches they have the camera slowly close in on her as she twists helplessly.. They remade this as Perils of Nyoka with Kay Aldridge which also isn't bad but not of the same quality IMHO. Daughter of Don Q (Adrian Booth) -- two great scenes, one where Booth is B&G and suspended in a net while the goons train a harpoon on her, to be released when the hero enters the room; the other, she is B&G inside a crate about to be tossed over the side of a steep canyon. Sky King -- Gloria Winters: The only reason I know about this at all is a (defunct) didcaps site that had lots of avis. I'll try to remember what the name was but thanks to whomever did it while it lasted. Anyway, Penny (Winters) is captured, B&G in an episode called (IIRC) "The Feathered Serpent." She has great lines (before the villain gags her): "Just you wait til my uncle Sky finds out!" The villain is appropriately unimpressed. Gloria got into all sorts of scrapes as I understand it. |
| peril lover |
| Wednesday April 30 12:58:48 2003 Re: Dark Asylum false alarm |
| > Paulina Porizkova is gagged with black tape (or cloth) in
> this film. I only saw previews for it. Has someone seen > the whole movie?? False alarm here. Pauline is not tied up or gagged in this movie. What the poster saw in the preview was likely Pauline running around in a red shirt, and then a female is shown gagged in a cage (in a very dark room.) It turns out to be Pauline's young daughter, also wearing a red shirt and also with dark hair, who was captured earlier and held for bait. It was a black cleave gag. |
| Brian W. |
| Wednesday April 30 14:12:05 2003 GH again |
| Okay, so now that the dust has (mostly) settled on the General Hospital exploits of late, could someone summarize just how much action I missed by not recording Friday's episode? I get somewhat conflicting impressions by reading the earlier posts. Does Bindher's clip include all the action, and did anything occur before Friday?
Something about clipping incomplete soap scenes just isn't nearly as satisfying. You know how it is... At any rate, I'd be happy to grant generous membership credit to my site for anyone who could get me a tape of Day One of the sequence. (For that matter: the same still goes for Day One of Laura Harring's bondage marathon on "Sunset Beach," which is possibly my favorite soap scene to date.) |
| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| Wednesday April 30 14:19:32 2003 Re: GH again |
| > Laura Harring's bondage
> marathon on "Sunset Beach," which is possibly my favorite soap scene to date.) It's so cute the way she blew that wisp of hair out of her eye from behind her tapegag! |
| Loosie lover |
| Wednesday April 30 14:22:56 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
| > > A thought I've been having recently. How many of you
> like > > it when a damsel, with difficulty of course, frees > > herself? I like it when she *tries* to free herself, and I mean really tries, and can't, and gets frustrated because of it. > > An already secured damsel, who just lays there and rolls > around without trying to escape has minimal interest for me. Again, if she really rolls around trying to free herself, I am in heaven. In fact, one of the oddest things is I so much like it when the bound damsel just flaps around in a hogtie like a fish on the shore. ;-) |
| John |
| Wednesday April 30 14:32:52 2003 Re: GH again |
| > It's so cute the way she blew that wisp of hair out of
> her eye from behind her tapegag! Heh...I never noticed that. For the most part, at least, the bondage is reasonably convincing (though they do commit the "hands in front plus gag" faux pas in the final sequence). What amazes me is just how many of the classic elements they managed to work into the sequence -- almost as though they were trying to go for a record. Let's see: two chloroformings, plus a knockout by injection and a carbon-monoxide deathtrap, a blindfold, a knotted cleave gag, several tape gags, lots of rope, a couple handcuffs, a secure duct-taping to a chair, a cute yellow bra, a wedding dress, and one of the sexiest examples I've seen of a damsel attempting to win her freedom by seducing her captor. Ay carumba... |
| Raffish |
| Wednesday April 30 15:06:52 2003 Update |
| So, thanks to Lee's frighteningly prolific mailing of tapes, I've added at least three new cap/clip sets to my little international side project since my last announcement. The most recent is from Four Stiffs And A Trombone.
(Letting the damsel keep her book to bide the time? Now there's a considerate robot captor.) |
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| Raffish |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/ |
| Wednesday April 30 15:38:59 2003 Re: Update |
| > So, thanks to Lee's frighteningly prolific mailing of
> tapes, I've added at least three new cap/clip sets to my > little international side project since my last > announcement. The most recent is from Four Stiffs And A > Trombone. > I'd like to take credit but Raffish has confused me with Jay L. Without him, Canadian TV's contribution to DinD TV would have been vastly overlooked. |
| Canuck |
| Wednesday April 30 15:50:26 2003 As the World Turns |
| Molly was snooping around at the end of Wednesday's episode, and the spolier sites say she gets grabbed tomorrow. No further details on what they mean by grabbed. Two thugs confronted her on Monday and roughed her up a bit while she was clad only in pants and a bar. They might be the ones coming back for more.
I only wish Cady McClain would find some trouble. I've never seen her only scene from AMC listed from the early 1990s, but that face and eyes were made for a gag. |
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| Brian W. |
| Wednesday April 30 15:55:42 2003 General Hospital |
| For those of us who taped Gh today and are at work, an update would be appreciated as to Cyndy's ongoing plotline. |
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| Wednesday April 30 16:22:32 2003 Re: Update |
| hey, how come no one posted any "she spies" jpegs? |
| Kramer |
| Wednesday April 30 16:58:10 2003 Re: Update |
| > I'd like to take credit but Raffish has confused me
> with Jay L. Without him, Canadian TV's contribution to > DinD TV would have been vastly overlooked. Oops! I was merely under the impression that Jay was the intermediating party between tape owner and capper -- for which I've often thanked him in these parts -- and that you were still to be thanked for the tapes themselves. Didn't mean to express any unwarranted appreciation. ;) |
| Raffish |
| Wednesday April 30 17:07:45 2003 Re: Update |
| > hey, how come no one posted any "she spies" jpegs?
Because Natasha Henstridge -- while she's no Kristen Miller -- is just too precious to share? |
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| Raffish |
| Wednesday April 30 17:16:04 2003 Re: Update |
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| kramer |
| Wednesday April 30 17:22:29 2003 Re: Update |
| > Kramer
> hey, how come no one posted any "she spies" jpegs? Chalk it up do another damn hectic week (or spring fever?). I just got the caps & clip up in the New Grabs section - and on the weekend I will finally complete the GH set from earlier in the week. |
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| Bindher |
| bindher@bindher.com |
| http://www.bindher.com |
| Wednesday April 30 17:44:27 2003 Re: Rank the She Spies |
| > Raffish
> > hey, how come no one posted any "she spies" jpegs? > > Because Natasha Henstridge -- while she's no Kristen > Miller -- is just too precious to share? It's tough to rank those three, but I'll do it anyway. My picks would be Natasha Henstridge first, Natashia Williams a distant second and Kristin Miller a close third. |
| Brian W. |
| Wednesday April 30 18:26:09 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
| It's on a case-by-case basis, but usually I dislike these scenes because they require that the actress be tied so loosely that she *can* free herself. Watch the closeup as she slips her hands out of the four-inch loops. Then there's the scene where she cleverly cuts or burns the ropes, with her hands conveniently tied about a foot apart.
I'll go with the other poster who likes it when she struggles valiantly but doesn't succeed. To make that scene work they have to tie the actress at least halfway decently. No points, however, for holding arms behind back and twisting around as if they were tied. |
| Paul |
| Wednesday April 30 18:28:10 2003 Re: underrated scenes |
| > Sky King -- Gloria Winters
I don't think anyone regards those scenes as underrated. They're classics. Undermentioned, perhaps. |
| Paul |
| Wednesday April 30 19:10:45 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
| No points, however, for holding arms behind back and twisting around as if they were tied.
Not sure about this - in my view, there should be a special award for those actresses who - despite pathetic workmanship on the part of the prop man - give it 'their all' for the boys - maybe DSOID - damsel 'sort of' in distress. |
| Major John |
| Wednesday April 30 20:29:37 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
| > I'll go with the other poster who likes it when she
> struggles valiantly but doesn't succeed. Another reason the "Dangerous Curves" scene was terrific. Not only did Michael Michele fail to free herself right away but she also tried unsuccessfully to ungag herself by rubbing her face across her knee and then letting out a frustrating mmppphh while looking back at Lise Cutter. To let the good guys win in the end, they finally let Michael free herself after the goon took Cutter out of the room. |
| Brian W. |
| Wednesday April 30 21:00:42 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
| > Not sure about this - in my view, there should be a
> special award for those actresses who - despite pathetic > workmanship on the part of the prop man - give it 'their > all' for the boys - maybe DSOID - damsel 'sort of' in distress. I agree with you there. For me, it's the aesthetics and plot that do it, more than the ropework. If the scene is dramatic or exciting in the way it was done, for me, that can overcome bad ropework. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Wednesday April 30 21:15:43 2003 Re: Damsels freeing themselves? |
| > I'll go with the other poster who likes it when she
> struggles valiantly but doesn't succeed. I completely agree with Paul and John on this point. I like to see lots of struggling and mmphimg, but despite her best efforts, the damsel stays tied. IMO, If the damsel eventually gets free, the could still be quite good, but I like it better when she can't get free. > To make that > scene work they have to tie the actress at least halfway > decently. > No points, however, for holding arms behind > back and twisting around as if they were tied. Paul is dead on on both of these points! |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday April 30 21:18:10 2003 Re: underrated scenes |
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> Sky King -- Gloria Winters: The only reason I know about > this at all is a (defunct) didcaps site that had lots of > avis. The lovely Miss Winters was the subject of an Ezine article a few issues back. See link below. |
| Brian R |
| http://www.brianspage.com/ezine/issue-2.1/features/skyking.shtml |
| Wednesday April 30 21:28:57 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
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> Will there be encore presentations of this episode later > in the week? I would really like to see this bondage > scene. I don't know that ABC reshows this on its cable channel. They certainly won't reshow it on the main channel. |
| Brian R |
| Wednesday April 30 21:31:00 2003 Re: Sweet Valley High |
| > Was the cutie on the right in the TV series?
IIRC she was not on the series. At least not as a regular. But damn I was that she was! |
| Paco The Bandit |
| Wednesday April 30 21:46:17 2003 Re: Sweet Valley High |
| > Was the cutie on the right in the TV series?
Actually, the blonde hottie in the middle, either Cynthia or Brittany Daniel, played one of the twins around whom the series gravitated. The beautiful black girl on the left was a supporting character, a teen model. |
| Hadji |
| Wednesday April 30 21:57:38 2003 Re: Best Damsel Pre-Gagging Lines? |
| > What are some of your favorite original DiD lines
> -- you know, something other than the "I won't scream" or > "You won't get away with this"? I haven't seen this one, but it's been mentioned before & despite its bad ending the line on the phone is quite memorable: Title: Pandemonium (1982) Medium: Movie Actress: Eve Arden Description: Playing a prison warden who's been tied to a chair by rioting inmates in this comedy, she gets a phone call from Tom Smothers asking for information on a former convict. After talking for a few minutes, she informs him, "Sorry, I'll have to hang up now; they're going to gag me." Then an inmate offers her a choice of bandannas. "I'll take red," she says, whereupon the inmate wraps the bandanna around her throat as the scene ends. Another favorite comes from the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" cartoon. As the villain takes out a hankercheif to gag April, she says, "I hope that's clean!" |
| PRW |
| Wednesday April 30 22:22:37 2003 Tuff Turf |
| There is a movie from 1985, a copy is being offered on e-Bay now, that has Kim Richards as a late-teens kidnap victim. There is no mention of this movie in the database. Does Kim, uh, get the treatment? Inquiring minds want to know. |
| Frank J |
| skynyd@yahoo.com |
| http://www.freewebs.com/franksattic |
| Wednesday April 30 22:47:55 2003 Re: NYPD Blue |
| > > Will there be encore presentations of this episode
> later > > in the week? I would really like to see this bondage > > scene. > > > I don't know that ABC reshows this on its cable channel. > They certainly won't reshow it on the main channel. I have posted some caps from last night's festivities. It's on my old Geocities account, so it may go dark for awhile, due to their annoying bandwidth restrictions. What I liked about this scene was how the women who ungagged her left the tape stuck to her face, dangling. Most people would have pulled it off completely in this situation. Kinda cute the way she left it. |
| TS |
| http://geocities.com/verywavy/nypd.html |
| Wednesday April 30 23:36:58 2003 Re: Best Damsel Pre-Gagging Lines? |
| > > What are some of your favorite original DiD lines
> > -- you know, something other than the "I won't scream" You really can't beat the scene in Young Indiana Jones where the girl says "I'd like my gag back now, please" |
| Major John |
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