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Wednesday March 19 00:06:33 2003
Re: Most inescapable rope bondage?
> > > Which scenes have featured the most realisticaly
> > > inescapable rope bondage?
> >
> Ally Sheedy in 'Deadly Lessons'

Methinks you have a case of scene creep. It was a loosie, albeit an aesthetically pleasing one. Only one hand was shown and they clearly weren't tied together. She also looked like she had to carry the chair with her while she was hopping across the room. I've always marveled that the rope didn't fall off during that scene.

20 years... wow.
Eric
Wednesday March 19 02:26:43 2003
Re: Strapped To a Medical Table.
> A favorite of mine has always been to see gils strapped
> down on medical or psychiatrists couches.arms by their
> sides with the straps (possibly 6 to 8) going over the
> body from top to bottom.
>
> Can anyone help with any TV or movi scenes which fits
> this.
I enjoy this theme myself. 2 of my favorite old movie titles
with scenes are "Zombies on Broadway" and "Whip Hand". Enjoy!

UKman

Mike Kluz
mkluzorange@msn.com
Wednesday March 19 02:26:45 2003
SBC Ad
Anyone else see the SBC ad? I saw it earlier today but damned if I could find it now. A cute black girl is looking at the camera with a criss-cross piece of tape over her mouth. The caption reads "speak your mind without opening your mouth".
Wednesday March 19 02:41:01 2003
Maxim
Hey good news, the new Maxim(sarah Wynter on the cover, has a beautiful woman chair tied on page 155!!!! It is an article on How Men Are in the sack! Great picture, nice and tight, for the most part!!!
Rando
Wednesday March 19 05:47:43 2003
Re: Most inescapable rope bondage?
>It's pretty jarring to think
> one has to "struggle" to think of realistically
> inescapable rope bondages!
>
> Best I come up with are Keri Russell's babysitter
> character in "Honey, I Blew Up the Kid" and Christina
> Applegate's babysitter character in "Married With
> Children." Hmm.

Yes. Unfortunately really convincing inescapable ropeties are almost nonexistent in mainstream.

There is always something wrong. As for the ones you mention , Keri's ropes looks way too loose , and you do not even get to see if Christina's hands are tied at all, or if she just holds them behind her (but both are good scenes anyway).

Mel Harris' scene in Distant Cousins, well her wrists are tied convincingly, the guy even uses his teeth to tighten the knot, but her ankles, sigh! Were they tied as good we would come close. Were a hogtie added we would be there.

I still thing Bound is one of the better. Also there is this chairtie I have caps from, I cant remember title or actress now...heck I put it into the DB myself!
But I remember this sentence from my entry: "The ropework looks so convincing, it's doubtful the actress would be able to free herself." (something like that at least) I will come back when I find it.
Per
Wednesday March 19 06:19:31 2003
Re: Inspiration For
> > The Avengers??

Surely inspired by Walter de la Mare's poem "The Highwayman."
>
>
Damsel: "Well, it's aimed slightly to my right, so if it stays in line, that's okay.

"Ah, but what about recoil? The whole thing will jump as that brick drops, and the recoil will push it back at a significant portion of the muzzle velocity, even before the slug leaves the barrel. 'Course, the hammer spring reaction will start doing that even before it hits the firing pin... The rear suspension is longer than the front, so that'll raise the muzzle as it swings back. Good again. Reckon I'm in with a chance here...

"Hang on! Forgot the rifling. If it's right-hand, the torque will twist the barrel anti-clock, and precession will swing it off to my right. Phew!

"I should get out more...

"Ah, but what if that model has left-hand rifling? And the gun may pivot randomly about the muzzle as the gases come out. Hmmm. Probably still okay, but if in doubt,

MMMMMMMMPHH!"

She reminds me very much of Jill Ireland in "The Man From UNCLE", actually. The setup is ingenious, but a bit flimsy, and the gag looks rather superficial, but what a great image.



Mad Dan Asperger
Wednesday March 19 06:20:38 2003
Re: "Sign from Above' added to the DB
> I taped the pertinent parts
> of Shalimar's struggles, but I can't give exact times
> because I didn't record the whole episode.

Very nice entry you made. Especially I like the part describing her, eh, clothing.

Man I hope some of the vidclippers are ready. Raffish alert ehh? I cross my fingers.

Per
Wednesday March 19 07:14:13 2003
Re: Maxim
> Hey good news, the new Maxim(sarah Wynter on the cover,
> has a beautiful woman chair tied on page 155
can we get the picture posted?
Wednesday March 19 08:15:17 2003
Re: Inspiration For
> > > The Avengers??
>
> Surely inspired by Walter de la Mare's poem "The
> Highwayman."

Or Alfred Noyes's poem on the same theme. DiDs to read at school!
>
Mad Dan Asperger
Wednesday March 19 08:20:13 2003
Re: Most inescapable rope bondage?

> It was:
>
> Title: Freewheelers
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Wendy Padbury
>
> Description: Episode unknown.

> With those enormous bright eyes, Wendy makes an excellent damsel.

Too bad she missed getting The treatment on "Doctor Who"
Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Wednesday March 19 10:36:57 2003
Re: Most inescapable rope bondage?
> > Ally Sheedy in 'Deadly Lessons'
>
> Methinks you have a case of scene creep. It was a
> loosie, albeit an aesthetically pleasing one. Only one
> hand was shown and they clearly weren't tied together.

There's a scene where she's sitting beside th record player before the villain bursts in the door. You can see her image in the mirror and both hands are visible. Not tied together but still pretty close.
Larry Wilcox
Wednesday March 19 10:43:36 2003
Inescapable, Gurney
>Inescapable

Perhaps Linda F. on "After hours". The hero see the ropework and he said: "I cann't untie this!".

>Gurney
A movie about death sentence, also another movie with Heather Locklear and "Swamp Monster" (Swamp Thing?).
Also the movie about futuristic jail: "Fortress"
asian
Wednesday March 19 10:49:23 2003
Re: Coronation Street
> Caps of Tina O'Brien B&G from her web site

"The canal scenes took 12 hours to film in a water tank and for most of that time Jack and Tina O'Brien who plays Sarah Lou had to cry with their mouths gagged.

Tina says: Crying for so long is exhausting. I have to draw on my surroundings and let the atmosphere bring on the tears. In the plunge scene I was concentrating like mad. I didn't have any make-up and wanted to get the expression right in my voice pleading with Richard to stop"



Wednesday March 19 10:52:20 2003
Re: Damhnait Doyle video scene
> For those of us in Canada, Damhnait Doyle's new video for
> "Another California Song" has a scene in it. I turned on
> MuchMoreMusic halfway through, and Doyle was in the
> process of tying a blonde woman's hands behind her back
> while seated. She then applied a duct tape gag, both
> onscreen.

Damhnait is pretty cute herself. Sort of too bad that she wasn't B&G as well.

We'll keep an eye out for the video.
http://www.dav-net.com/photos/images/pic4_l.gif
Canuck
http://www.muchmoremusic.com/top10/
Wednesday March 19 13:45:46 2003
Re: Bondage on Stage -- Hurry - Last Minute
> ... Washington DC ... theater ... "Last Minute" ...
> "Bound and gagged, a young woman..." ...
> ... no photos in the reviews ...

There is, however, a photo on the company's web site...
http://www.theatredujour.org/images/krischair.jpg
Not Brian
http://www.theatredujour.org/currprod.html
Wednesday March 19 16:22:38 2003
What episode is this?
I cannot find it in the DB.
Someone must know, I am sure.

From "Scarecrow and Mrs King" series.
DiD Kate Jackson herself.
Some guys open a wooden box. Inside are Mrs Jackson, tapegagged with white tape, and hands tied in front with white rope. Wearing a pink blouse.
The villain, a man with "salt- and pepper" hair, ungags her.
She says" How dare you? Where am I? Who are you? I have a birthday party to get together!"

I am surprised I couldn't find it in the DB. You must know!
Per
Wednesday March 19 16:23:03 2003
New clip/cap site
I'm pleased to announce a new site that Brian's Page readers should enjoy. Canuck had some scenes to share with the community, Jay L. hooked us up, and I'll be adding the clips and caps over the next few weeks.

First up: Finders, Keepers, Lovers, Weepers.
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck
Wednesday March 19 16:23:10 2003
Caprice Bourret, Lita in Dark angel, Katie Holmes Dawson Creek
I was wondering a while back someone was talking of a picture of Caprice with black Gaffers tape on her mouth does anyone know where you can find such photos, also how about photos of Lita in Darl Angel:Freak Nation where she is tape gagged and tied to a column. Lastly Im going to try and post a photo of Katie Holmes hand gagged I hope it works.

If some one could help with these photos I would really appriciate it I also have alot of photos of hard to find scenes as well.
Thnaks the Dogg, Brian love the page!
http://photos.group.yahoo.com/group/shutyouryap/vwp?.dir=/misc&src=gr&.dnm=syy5.jpg&view=t&done=http%3a//photos.group.yahoo.com/group/shutyouryap/1st%3f%26.dir=/misc%26.src=gr%26.view=t.jpg
Dogg
Wednesday March 19 16:55:05 2003
TV Movie - MONK
I have noticed that this Saturday in the UK on BBC2 we have a US Commedy Thriller called Monk which has some promise.

Monk is a detective who has as the review puts it Sharona (Bitty Schram) who is both nurse and assistant to the quirky detective.

Has anyone seen this State Side and if so is it worth watching for its restraining qualityies ?

Ukman
Wednesday March 19 17:12:07 2003
Re: TV Movie - MONK
> I have noticed that this Saturday in the UK on BBC2 we
> have a US Commedy Thriller called Monk which has some
> promise.
>
> Has anyone seen this State Side and if so is it worth
> watching for its restraining qualityies

The show looked stupid to me and I figured I rely on this page for guidance. I haven't read one word, so I think there's been nothing so far on the many episodes aired in the U.S.



Brian W.
Wednesday March 19 17:14:56 2003
Re: Check again
> From "Scarecrow and Mrs King" series.
> DiD Kate Jackson herself.
> Some guys open a wooden box. Inside are Mrs Jackson,
> tapegagged with white tape
>
> I am surprised I couldn't find it in the DB. You must know!

It's in the database. Record number 121. It just doesn't have all the dialogue, etc.
Brian W.
Wednesday March 19 17:18:08 2003
Re: New clip/cap site
> I'm pleased to announce a new site that Brian's Page
> readers should enjoy. Canuck had some scenes to share
> with the community

Oops, it seems that Lee actually deserves the credit for this first batch. (Either I misunderstood, or I'm simply doing too much at once...)
Raffish
Wednesday March 19 17:25:49 2003
Re: SBC Ad
> Anyone else see the SBC ad?

What is SBC? Where was the ad found in?
THANKS
booz
boozcool@yahoo.com
Wednesday March 19 17:26:33 2003
Re: TV Movie - MONK
> I have noticed that this Saturday in the UK on BBC2 we
> have a US Commedy Thriller called Monk which has some
> promise.
> Monk is a detective who has as the review puts it Sharona
> (Bitty Schram) who is both nurse and assistant to the
> quirky detective.
> Has anyone seen this State Side and if so is it worth
> watching for its restraining qualityies ?

I've seen several episodes. No bindings or gaggings but Sharona does end up in trouble often to show promise for the second season. It's a good show really, Monk is an irreplaceable character.

Oh yeah, in the movie pilot at the very end, a gunman takes Sharona hostage in the sewers. Lots of handgagging and failed handgagging if I remember correctly while Monk tries to overcome his fear of sewers to save her.





Wednesday March 19 19:00:56 2003
Re: Check again
> > I am surprised I couldn't find it in the DB. You must
> know!
>
> It's in the database. Record number 121. It just doesn't
> have all the dialogue, etc.

Oh..so it is that one? Well I read that description several times. Rejected it. In the video clip I have there is no golf course, and no blindfold.
The gag and tie in front fits though, so I guess you are right. Tells us the importance of precise details in DB descriptions IMHO!
Thanks a lot!

Per
Wednesday March 19 19:08:24 2003
Re: Check again
Double Post! Thank you computer!

I was trying to elaborate: My vid clip shows no golf courses or blindfolds. The DB entry mentions no wooden boxes or men with salt/pepper hair.So, DB entry covers first part, video clip second part, of the same scene.

But if the DB entry had mentioned the pink blouse our heroine wears I could have identified the scene! Details! All I wanted to say!
Do not post "she was bound and gagged in that episode" folks! Worse than nothing!
Per
Wednesday March 19 19:20:59 2003
Mirror Mirror On The Wall
Another cap/clip set.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/MirrorMirrorOnTheWall/MirrorMirrorOnTheWall.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/
Wednesday March 19 19:40:44 2003
Re: Check again
> But if the DB entry had mentioned the pink blouse our
> heroine wears I could have identified the scene! Details!
> All I wanted to say!
> Do not post "she was bound and gagged in that episode"
> folks! Worse than nothing!

That's ridiculous, Per. I didn't enter that entry, but that scene description is basically fine. It mentions kidnapping and white tape and it mentions time points in the episode. The person who entered watched the entire episode. There's database corrections and there's "database corrections." You're carrying the details way too far on your correction crusade, to the point where I don't even read over there anymore because I can't sort through all the pointless details in many of the corrections. Like who cares if Alyssa Milano was sitting on a bench or a chair when she was gagged on "Charmed."
Brian W.
Wednesday March 19 20:14:15 2003
Re: Check again
> > But if the DB entry had mentioned the pink blouse our
>
> > heroine wears I could have identified the scene!
> Details!
> > All I wanted to say!

> That's ridiculous, Per. I didn't enter that entry, but
> that scene description is basically fine. It mentions
> kidnapping and white tape and it mentions time points in
> the episode.

Yes. But it does not mention all the things in my clip (wooden box, villain with salt/pepper hair, dialogue- or the blouse).

I am sorry if you feel it is ridiculous. However, it is a fact, that though I have a rather lenghty video clip from the scene, that I just watched more than once, I was unable to recognise the scene from the DB description, even though I read that several times too.

That is because of the the lack of precise detail.

Of course, I can understand, that if you are out looking for scenes that may interest you, it does not matter if Alyssa Milano sits on an outdoor bench or an indoor chair, or if Ms Jacksons blouse is pink or violet.

But, if you ALSO use the DB as I do, that is try to identify scenes you got as vidclips or caps, these details does matter.

Also, being polite will not cost you dollars.
Per
Wednesday March 19 20:15:51 2003
DID in The Untouchables
Hi there.

I am very curious. I remembered seeing a few DID scenes in various episodes of The Untouchables (1993 TV Series). Yet in the database it only show one.

I remembered a VERY good bondage scene in one of the episode named Pagano's Folly.

Wondering if anyone else remembers such an episode
(its a long shot, considering that this show wasn't exactly popular)

SDF
dunno@dunno.com
Wednesday March 19 20:25:08 2003
Re: Check again
And, let me add:

While it is true that I try to be precise in the descriptions, including a short but exact description of the damsel's clothing, I also try to make it short, as you would know if you had read the many corrections and the many, many new entries I made lately.

So I simply cannot understand if you "gave up on reading them".
Is 3 lines too much for you?
Per
Wednesday March 19 20:26:35 2003
Re: Check again
>
> Also, being polite will not cost you dollars.

Who's not being polite? We disagree, simple as that. I respect your opinion, I just don't agree. I just stated my feelings about clogging up the database corrections page with all these details that I think are not needed. You're making that page unreadable with those long posts. But it's not my call.
Brian W.
Wednesday March 19 20:33:11 2003
Re: Check again

> Do not post "she was bound and gagged in that episode"
> folks! Worse than nothing!

While we prefer fuller descriptions, it's important to
get scenes in the database. They can be filled out later.

Skipping an entry because you don't remember much about
it helps no one.

Brian R
Wednesday March 19 20:34:50 2003
Re: Check again

> I am sorry if you feel it is ridiculous.

Don't let this spin out of control.

The Moderator
Wednesday March 19 20:37:48 2003
Re: DID in The Untouchables

> I am very curious. I remembered seeing a few DID scenes
> in various episodes of The Untouchables (1993 TV Series).
> Yet in the database it only show one.

The database is a cooperative effort, the scenes get in
there by people putting them in.

> I remembered a VERY good bondage scene in one of the
> episode named Pagano's Folly.

So add it.

> dunno@dunno.com

Don't use fake email addresses. That field is optional,
if you don't want to use your address leave it out.


The Moderator
Wednesday March 19 20:38:48 2003
Re: Check again
Yeah. Maybe I should give a guide here. In the "search database" page, there's a feature where you can see all the most recent entries.


All entries beginning with the phrase "based on screen captures" are mine. Go 3 weeks back. And please tell me which entries are too long or too detailed Brian. Do it in here! Thank you.
Per
Wednesday March 19 20:41:50 2003
Re: Check again
> Who's not being polite? We disagree, simple as that.

In my book it is not polite to call other people's opinions ridiculous.

Per
Wednesday March 19 20:46:39 2003
Re: Check again

> You're making that page unreadable with those long posts.
> But it's not my call.

1. That's right. You passed on an offer to be an editor,
so you really don't have any say there. It's up to the
working editors.

2. This is not the place to discuss that. Bring it up
on DB Corrections if you think it to be a problem.

3. We appreciate all correction information. We are
capable of sorting through.

4. This bickering WILL STOP NOW.

The Moderator
Wednesday March 19 20:50:23 2003
Survivor
A bit of tieup on the special Wednesday showing. The challenge was for the teams to tear meat off large roasts with their hands tied behind their backs. Naturally, both men and women participated. Some pretty good closeups of their tied hands (strips of blue or yellow cloth). The best-looking contestant (in my opinion) sat out the competition.
Brian R
Wednesday March 19 21:06:53 2003
Re: Check again
> Per
> > Who's not being polite? We disagree, simple as that.
>
> In my book it is not polite to call other people's
> opinions ridiculous.

Promise, last word. Per, I didn't call your opinion ridiculous. It was the line about "worse then nothing" that's what I called ridiculous.


Brian W.
Wednesday March 19 21:53:02 2003
Re: Check again
> It was the line about "worse then nothing"
> that's what I called ridiculous.

OK. That's allright. I am sorry if I misunderstood.
BTW I still mean it, and here I must admit I tend to disagree with the moderator. If people see a scene, and want to enter it, and then see there IS an entry already in the DB, I think they tend to back away.
Unless they go on a "Crusade" like me, trying to wipe out all bad entries that they stumble upon. Tough job I tell you. So, some entries ARE worse than nothing IMHO.

"She was bound and gagged in that episode".

Or, why not let the next guy give an actual description of the scene?

Anyway, I still want to ask all, when you make entries, please try to be as detailed and precise as you can- without writing a novel!

Will be much appreciated by future generations of bondage lovers! I know it!

(I really hope this was OK Brian Moderator, we are not even fighting anymore)




Per
Wednesday March 19 22:49:32 2003
Abandon
Anyone know if there was any action in the new Katie Holmes flick Abandon? There is also a new movie out with Rebecca Romain Stamos called Femme Fatale. Both of these can't be strike outs....or could they?

tripper
Wednesday March 19 22:50:26 2003
to Per
Per: go to the Trade page...I left you a post today.
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Wednesday March 19 23:13:33 2003
Re: Damhnait Doyle video scene
> For those of us in Canada, Damhnait Doyle's new video for
> "Another California Song" has a scene in it.

Thanx for the alert here,
was finally able to catch it.

> I'll defer DB entry

I'll look after the DB entry.

For Everyone Else:
I'll talk to our friends Bindher, Anubis, Fuzz, Raffish, etc,
so's the rest of you interested can have a look at it.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Wednesday March 19 23:25:31 2003
Re: Most inescapable rope bondage?
The most inescapable bondage I've seen in a mainstream film was probably Melanie Good tape tied to a chair in Die Watching. Of course, this is not "rope bondage", but I just thought I'd mention this often underrated scene anyway.

anonymous

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