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Sunday February 09 00:18:33 2003
Is it just me...
...Or do Far East/Asian actresses imported to the US are more willing to get the treatment. It seems every movie that brings a lovely Asian sensation star to the crossover to America gets bound and gagged. Black Mask, Big Hit(love that outfit), the Transporter(sexy skirt), and now from I've been told on this board Shanghai Knights. It also seems there is a plethora of DiD scenes from Asian tv.

or is it just me?

Paco The Bandit
Sunday February 09 00:30:43 2003
Re: Asian's Post
> what this movie based on huh?

Sorry no. There are several difference on the novel. The wife and her boyfriend are killed. Most local author only copy other people's idea / novel and change small part of the plot. Perhaps the new local independent movie "Novel without R" is an adaptation of "R for Revenge".
asian
Sunday February 09 01:04:11 2003
Re: Mainstream Bondage Flick Waiting To Happen
> On the
> inside cover, there is a photo of three girls in classic
> cheerleader outfits bound wrists in front and
> cleavegagged very tightly.

One of which is either Cynthia or Brittany Daniel. One of them is also on the cover with her hands apparently tied in front, barely in the shot though.
CM
Sunday February 09 01:56:24 2003
Re: Is it just me...
> ...Or do Far East/Asian actresses imported to the US are
> more willing to get the treatment.

This is off-topic, because neither you nor anyone else
here has any idea how willing actresses of any nationality
are to do scenes.

Talk about the scenes you see, leave your speculations
out of it. Any followups will be deleted.


The Moderator
Sunday February 09 02:46:21 2003
Jennifer Garner in Dare Devil
I just saw the trailer from that new Jennifer Garner's movie with a lovely leather outfit. I wonder if anybody got good news about this movie, something promising for Ms. Garner.
Ok. my straight question is, does she get the tratment???
http://www.comics2film.com/ImageFrame.php3?f_filename=images/Daredevil/Elektra.jpg
Overlaid
Sunday February 09 03:33:41 2003
Re: Is it just me...
> Talk about the scenes you see, leave your speculations
> out of it. Any followups will be deleted.

I think this is an interesting topic, so I'll post a response to Anything Goes if anyone wants to follow up there.



Pat Powers
Sunday February 09 04:59:28 2003
Re: books
> does anyone know of any good books with some good
> kidnapping and bondage in them? I just had my tv lost
> and enjoy reading these predicaments as well.
> Preferrably duct tape but anything not dealing with rape will do. Thanks

Joe if you enjoy stories go to Jeb's Adventure Bound (there's a link here). There are several sites offering bondage prose if you just look hard enough.
Mark O
Sunday February 09 05:37:16 2003
Re: The Collector
> Everyone raves about The Collector...but anyone (who >like
> myself) read the book first was VERY dissapointed >about
> the ammount of scenes which were never filmed

Maybe you can help refresh my memory, because I read the book too, many years ago, and when I saw the film I got the impression they filmed almost all the bondage scenes.
In the book Miranda is held captive for several weeks, locked up in this basement, but she is only tied when she is allowed to leave it, like in the film.
Some attempts from her, like flushing notes out the toilet, and a futile attempt to dig through the thick walls, are not in the movie.
Only the bondage scenes in the last chapter has been let out IIRC, and thank God for that: Miranda is halfway unconscious from pneumonia and fever, but the guy, who has turned downrihgt sadistic after she hit him with the axe, amuses himself by tying her up in various positions and photographing her.
Considering the bad ending that's not my cup of tea, but maybe those scenes were what you meant?

Per
Sunday February 09 08:57:02 2003
Vector File, Lena Olin
On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg and her daughter India Oxenberg got full treatment back to back!
Is this the first REAL mother - daughter scene?
Any chance for Kate Hudson and Goldie Hawn scene?

#Lena Olin
Finally she got full treatment in "Ignition" (2001) at the age of 45. Any scene on her Swedish / European movies?
Beside Elizabeth Taylor, Loni Anderson, Stephanie Zimbalist, is there any other senior actress who got first treatment in their 40s or 50s?
asian
Sunday February 09 09:19:51 2003
Re: The Collector
> Maybe you can help refresh my memory, because I read the
> book too, many years ago, and when I saw the film I got
> the impression they filmed almost all the bondage
> scenes.

Ok here's what was missing.....

In the film We see Samantha Edgar Chloroformed briefly and then pushed in the van while the villian BEGINS to tie her up and we then fade to an ariel shot of the van before Stamp carries the unconcious Ms Edgar into her new home....In the book the whole tying up is described and she wakens up during the trip to his mansion.

Also in the book but missing from the film:

* The character writes her diary while she is gagged and her hands are bound behind

*The Collector takes photos of her bound and gagged while nude.

And IIRC I'm certian there is another bondage scene missing from the film.

Ok so back in thoes days there is NO WAY they could have done the nude photo's scene (in fact it would probably raise a few eyebrows now). But these three scenes were so great in the book that to then see them absent from the film was a real dissapointment.

Don't get me wrong. As a stand alone film it was good and the bondage was decent. But it's still a dissapointment.
Paul S
Sunday February 09 09:28:48 2003
Marta Dubois
I was watching Mcgyver yesterday and Marta DuBois was a guest star. With all the Daredevil hype I was reminded of her scene from the tv movie Trial of the Incredible Hulk where DD made his live action debut. As bad as the movie was the scenes with Marta were pretty good unless your a gag snob. It starts out with a nice blindfold scene when she's brought into Kingpins liar, then she's chair tied as bait for DD, and later she has her hands tied behind her back and is thrown on a bed and is about to be killed but gets rescued just in time of course.
Mark C
http://community.webtv.net/captives/MARTA
Sunday February 09 09:42:45 2003
Vector File; Lena Olin
> On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg and her daughter India Oxenberg got full treatment back to back!
>
> Beside Elizabeth Taylor, Loni Anderson, Stephanie Zimbalist, is there any other senior actress who got first treatment in their 40s or 50s?
-------------
1) Thanks for the info on Vector File. Perhaps it'll be at one of the local video stores.

2) Cheryl Ladd's first full-treatment was in One West Wakiki ("Manpower"). However, I wouldn't term an actress in her 40's as "senior". How about "middle-age"?
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 09 10:25:55 2003
Re: The Collector
>Paul
> Don't get me wrong. As a stand alone film it was good and
> the bondage was decent. But it's still a dissapointment.

Thanks for the answer. I think it must be nearly 25 years since I read the book, but, for unknown reasons, I usually remember bondage scenes very precisely ;)
So I feared beginning dementia on my part when I read your first post.

Actually I do not think we remember that differently. Yes the bondage during the kidnapping could have been shown longer and in more detail, and I am sure it would have been if you or I were the director, but otherwise such things are the prize for compressing a whole novel into a 90 minute movie.

It is true that Miranda writes in her diary with her hands tied-in front. ("Dear diary, pardon the writing, but it is difficult to write with bound hands" quote from memory)
They could have shown that. This is after she has persuaded him to tie her hands in front during her last visit to the house, and she, on the way back, hits him in the head with an axe.(A shovel in the movie). She could hardly have done that with hands tied behind. Only wounded, he barely manages to drag her to the basement, where she is locked up, and still tied.
In the movie as well as the film he returns after a couple of days, and she has not managed to free her hands.
The nude bondage scenes: are the ones I mentioned in my first post (Quote from memory: "After this (she attacking him with the axe) I did not care much about her. So I tied her, naked, in various positions I found in the bondage magazines. Sometimes the ropes became tighter than I originally intended. I took many pictures of her, including closeups of her bound hands.")
Miranda was seriously ill at that time, therefore these scenes were too sadistic for my taste also because of the bad ending, so I did not really miss them in the movie.
In fact, though I usually gets a little annoyed if a DiD is rescued too soon, in this particular case I really missed the Knight in Shining Armour when reading the last chapter. Miranda was so sweet, she did not deserve her fate.

Brian, I hope all this is not off topic, too long, or something.
As I see it, it really IS discussing mainstream bondage.
Per
Sunday February 09 11:06:55 2003
Re: The Collector
> Ok here's what was missing.....
>

IIRC, there are many potential bondage scenes in the scenes where Ferdy starts taking Miranda for walks outside the house, and he keeps her bound and gagged and possibly leashed whenever they take their walks. She negotiates with him about the gag, and I don't remember if he decides to let her go ungagged or not.

I don't recall any of this showing up in the movie.
Pat Powers
Sunday February 09 11:35:57 2003
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The Moderator
Sunday February 09 11:53:50 2003
Re: Vector File; Lena Olin
> > On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg and her daughter
> India Oxenberg got full treatment back to back!

holy cow...and no one has mentioned this movie before now? I just checked the Database & it's there, but I can't believe no one has even mentioned this movie till just now. sounds like a humdinger if only for seeing Ms. Oxenberg getting tied & gaged once again.
Sunday February 09 11:59:08 2003
Vector File
WOW !!!!

THANKS For The Heads Up.

Films with real life mothers and daughters simply performing together are rare enough, but having them both tied and gagged in the same scene is rarer than hen's teeth.

Even in the amatuer and professional bondage videos mother and daughters tied in the same scene are extremely rare.

Found several reviews, but no luck in finding any source for the film :-(

Anybody else have better luck in finding a source ???
Jacot
Sunday February 09 12:05:49 2003
Re: Mainstream Bondage Flick Waiting To Happen
> What book would you *most* like to see made into a movie?

"Gerald's Game" by Stephen King comes to mind. The heroine spends pretty much the whole book handcuffed to a bed. Nothing there if you've gotta have a gag, though.

There are two books in the "Star Trek: TNG" series that I've read (yes, I'm a geek) that feature Troi in restraint... one in which she walks around handcuffed for some time and another in which she's bound hand and foot. Either one of those would make great episodes IMO. Unfortunately, I can't remember the titles to either book ATM and I'm not sure where they are to go look (probably in a box somewhere).


Gax
Sunday February 09 12:32:58 2003
Re: eva herzigova
Hmmm... Talk about doing the faker's work for him!
Mad Dan
Sunday February 09 12:38:21 2003
DID Movie waiting to happen
They did "Thin Air". My next vote would be "Whisper, he might hear you" by William Appel and "Eternal Bliss" by Christopher Fahy. Both are kidnap plots, lengthy bondage scenes in the book.
"Gerald's Game" is going to be done sooner or later. How do I know this? EVERYTHING Stephen King has written has been turned into a movie- 15 page short stories have been turned into 2 hour movies...with sequels. It's only a matter of time and marketing.

Since they're on the Women Action Hero kick these days (Alias, Birds of Prey, Dark Angel, etc.) I thought that Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter was ripe to go. Vampires are always a favorite. In the novels, Anita gets the treatment at least 3 times (no gag, but still- tied to a chair once, tied to a bed once, chained to an altar once) and is threatened with it more than once. The big problem is the novels cover a lot of territory, and they wouldn't necessarily pick a book with a bondage scene for the first time out. Unless it went sequel/franchise, low probability.
-Cullan Blackthorne, who thought about this WAY too much
Cullan Blackthorne
Sunday February 09 13:14:52 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
> Thanks for the heads up. There's a clip of this movie at
> this site which contains a "blink and you'll miss it"
> shot of them tied to chairs.

Forgot to include the link:

http://www.filmknights.com/vector.htm

MadFish
Sunday February 09 13:25:32 2003
Re: The Collector
>She
> negotiates with him about the gag, and I don't >remember
> if he decides to let her go ungagged or not.
>
> I don't recall any of this showing up in the movie.

In the movie, before the bathroom scene, when they are about to leave the basement, Fergy says: I must tie you up!
Miranda crosses her wrists (in front), but he turns her around, pulls her arms behind, and ties them there. She does not protest.
Then he pulls out something to gag her with. She says"Oh no not that, I promise not to scream!"
He accepts that, and they leave the basement, she ungagged with hands tied behind her back.
So, a little negociating, at least, they got onto the movie.


Per
Sunday February 09 13:29:03 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
It just occurred to me this is the second film in which Catherine Oxenberg co-starred with real-life husband Casper Van Dien (Starship Troopers) and was also bound and gagged in the movie. Is this just a coincidence?

Along the lines of the discussion of "family ties", I wonder if we're seeing a trend similar to Suzanna Love (The Boogeyman, Devonsville Terror)or Vali Ashton (Die Watching), where their spouses were involved in the production.



MadFish
Sunday February 09 13:38:11 2003
Re: The Collector
>She
> does not protest.

Sorry not entirely true: She does say: "How am I supposed to take a bath like this?"





Per
Sunday February 09 14:22:22 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin

> Beside Elizabeth Taylor, Loni Anderson, Stephanie
> Zimbalist, is there any other senior actress who got
> first treatment in their 40s or 50s?
>

If gagging is part of the definition, when did Ms. Zimbalist have such a scene? There's nothing in the DB.

She was nowhere near forty when she was first bound before the camera ... she was born in '56.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Sunday February 09 14:38:52 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
> is there any other senior actress who got
> first treatment in their 40s or 50s?

As previously noted, Ida Lupino, June Allyson. (OK, half of you never heard of Ida Lupino...

Paul
Sunday February 09 14:52:37 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
> On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg and her daughter
> India Oxenberg got full treatment back to back!
What kind of gag did Catherine get?
Hank
Sunday February 09 15:27:21 2003
Sanctimony
The INTERNET reviews of 'Sanctimony' are not too flattering, but they do point out that Catherine Oxenberg's character is pregnant [they don't say how far along].

That has to be a first, HOGTIED PREGNANT DID hanging out a window !!!!!

Supposedly it is available on both DVD and VHS from Amazon.
Jacot
Sunday February 09 15:33:36 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
> > is there any other senior actress who got
> > first treatment in their 40s or 50s?
>
Barbara Eden (Jeannie), Jane Seymour ? Katie Segal - I'm
sure there's lots.


Dario Pula
Sunday February 09 15:34:30 2003
Re: DID Movie waiting to happen
> > "Gerald's Game" is going to be done sooner or later. How
> do I know this? EVERYTHING Stephen King has written has
> been turned into a movie- 15 page short stories have been
> turned into 2 hour movies...with sequels. It's only a
> matter of time and marketing.
>

King has said many times that GG should never be filmed due to its graphic nature, so probaly not.

Regarding bondage in mainstream books, I have over 50 books with B&G scenes of major characters, if anyone interested I could post more details here (many were listed on Mr Irony's old site)
Sunday February 09 15:37:05 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
>
Repost of deleted post:

> On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg and her daughter
> India Oxenberg got full treatment back to back!

Thanks for the heads up. There's a clip of this movie at this site which contains a "blink and you'll miss it" shot of them tied to chairs.
Before you get too worked up over the prospect of mother and daughter bound and gagged, be aware that her daughter is[description not appropriate for this site].

> Is this the first REAL mother - daughter scene?

The first that I know of in the same film.
>
> #Lena Olin
> Finally she got full treatment in "Ignition" (2001) at
> the age of 45. Any scene on her Swedish / European
> movies?
> Beside Elizabeth Taylor, Loni Anderson, Stephanie
> Zimbalist, is there any other senior actress who got
> first treatment in their 40s or 50s?

Besides those previously mentioned, Genie Francis' scene last year comes to mind.

The Moderator
Sunday February 09 15:39:34 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
> > On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg and her daughter
> > India Oxenberg got full treatment back to back!
> What kind of gag did Catherine get?

What did the database entry say?



Brian R
Sunday February 09 15:40:11 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin
On "Vector File", Catherine Oxenberg
What kind of gag did Catherine get?

She was the girl gagged in a bra in "lair of the white worm" !
http://btinternet.com/~Maverick.7/pickard/co/co1.jpg
Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Sunday February 09 15:42:33 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin



> > #Lena Olin
> > Finally she got full treatment in "Ignition" (2001) at
>
> > the age of 45. Any scene on her Swedish / European
> > movies?
> > Beside Elizabeth Taylor, Loni Anderson, Stephanie
> > Zimbalist, is there any other senior actress who got
> > first treatment in their 40s or 50s?

Are we counting gags in Full treatment status? - Cause if not, Lena Olin had several scenes in "Romeo is Bleeding" where she's cuffed - including in her bra top...(had to check the database for that)

One of the first movies I ever went to for a scene, and one of the WORST movie's I've ever seen, BTW...ughhhhh. Think I saw a pair of cuffs in the TV ad or something, I don't know for sure...

RB
cindy schubert's new number 1 fan...
Sunday February 09 15:59:21 2003
DID Movie waiting to happen
Then there's always "The Fan Club" by Irving Wallace, which never came to fruition as a movie project in the early 1980's despite actress names such as Raquel Welch and Bo Derek mentioned as possibilities.

Because the story essentially takes place in a remote cabin with a small cast (Sharon Fields and her four kidnappers), I could see it re-written as a play. "Extremities" was a successful play, before being made into the movie. Of course, Fan Club's early rape scenes would have to be toned down, or "implied".

With the storyline being the captive outsmarting her captors by uncovering each's vulnerabilities, and turning them against one another, I could even see "The Fan Club" eventually appearing on the Lifetime channel.
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 09 16:58:24 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin Actresses getting first treatment after 40
> > > is there any other senior actress who got
> > > first treatment in their 40s or 50s?
> >
> Barbara Eden (Jeannie), Jane Seymour ? Katie Segal - I'm
> sure there's lots.

There may not be as many as you think. Barbara Eden was born in 1934 and received a full treatment on the Rawhide series in the 1960's. In addition, she also received a full treatment (as Jeannie's evil sister) and a non-gag tie up on I Dream of Jeannie also in the 1960's. She was probably in her ealt to mid thirties when she did these scenes.

According to the IMDB, Katie Segal was born in January, 1957. Hence her scenes on Married With Children (which ran from 1987 to 1997) most likely occured when she was in her thirties. Jane Seymour's first gag scene in Memories of Midnight (1991) was when she was about 40. (ms. Seymour was born in 1951). However, she had a no gag scene in Live and Let Die (1973).

Further, Biff is correct concerning Stephanie Zimbalist. She has never had a full treatment scene (only several hnad gag scenes). Moreover, she had a cloth bondage scene on Remington Steele in the 1980's, and a movie tie up scene in the ealy 1990's. As Biff mentioned, Ms. Zimbalist was born in 1956.

Finally, there is an interesting piece of trivia concerning Catherine Oxenberg, who is still looking mighty fine. According to the IMDB, is a direct descendent of Catherine the Great and is named after the famous Russian monarch.


mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Sunday February 09 17:16:46 2003
Re: The Collector
> Also in the book but missing from the film:
>
> * The character writes her diary while she is gagged and
> her hands are bound behind
>
> *The Collector takes photos of her bound and gagged while
> nude.

And, by the way, in the book he went out of his way to put high heels on her for those pics. Freddy in the book was much more perverse than the movie's lead (Miranda was his ultimate butterfly). The writer, John Fowles was ahead of his time IMHO, the book explored themes of cultural class wars and feminism if you look closely; a real 60's cornucopia. "The Magus" also by John Fowles has a bondage and whipping scene it and was ripped off by "The Game" with Michael Douglas, a far less interesting treatment of a game that is real. The Magus was a movie also but was lame compared to the book; Candice Bergen and Michael Caine were the leads, and she did do the whipping scene (but it's not memorable).
Sunday February 09 17:18:03 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin Actresses getting first treatment after 40
That final snetence should read:

According to the IMDB, she is a direct
descendent of Catherine the Great and is named after the famous Russian monarch.




mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Sunday February 09 17:24:11 2003
Re: Sanctimony
> Supposedly it is available on both DVD and VHS from Amazon.

I saw it on cable a while back so it may show again. It's not worth buying, they use the pregnancy angle to create tension and it just makes it sad, IMHO.


Sunday February 09 17:26:26 2003
The Collector continued.
Before getting too excited about Nicole Kidman in the Collector just remember that the tabloid press always rumors romance when two big stars are in a film together, and Kidman and Law just finished filming "Cold Mountain".
Jessi is right, Kidman is too mature to play a College Student. But I think the charecter could be changed to a women in her late Thirties without damaging the basics of the novel.
If I were casting the remake I would go with Natalie Portman as Miranda: Right age,Drop Dead Gorgeous, and a very good actress to boot. (Yes she was wooden in the Star Wars film but can you blame her with the bad dialogue she was given by George "Can't write a script worth a damn anymore" Lucas?<p>
As to Mother and Daughter, my "Dream Team" is Gwennyth Paltrow and Blythe Danner. Ms. Danner, BTW, is still looking very good...<p>
I understand one of ones I missed is coming up on cable..the film where Suzy Amis gets the full treatment.
My own two Holy Grails are the film version of "Red Ryder" and the TV movie in which Meg Foster gets the full treament.
The Knotty Professor
Sunday February 09 17:28:29 2003
Apology.
Sorry about the <p>'s. I forget this page does not require them for spacing paragraphs.
The Knotty Professor
Sunday February 09 17:31:50 2003
Re: DID Movie waiting to happen
> Then there's always "The Fan Club" by Irving Wallace,
> which never came to fruition as a movie project in the
There was a play called "Kelly and Du" a few years back and is sitll being performed in a few places. Some anti-abortion zealots kidnap a woman (Du) and plan to hold her prisoner until she gives birth. Kelly is the woman assigned to guard her. I understand that Du is kept handcuffed through the almost the whole play.
TV Critic
Sunday February 09 17:36:53 2003
Meredith Vieira possibility.
Our favorite View bondagette is making a guest appearance on General Hospital Mar 6 and 7. She is playing a madam who is trying to lure a character back into her former life of prostitution. If there is any justice, she will be caught by the long arm of the law, and at least handcuffed. Shacles would be too much to hope for.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02082003/entertainment/30139.htm
TV Critic
Sunday February 09 17:47:27 2003
Meredith Vieira addendum
That last post, I should have written shackles, not shacles.
Meredith is no stranger to metal restraints, having been in them one way or another AT LEAST 4 TIME on The View, so she apparantly doesn't have any problems with it.

Once her View mates did a phone arrest of her at the end of the show, where she was handcuffed by a security guard, and then taken for mugshots, all while handcuffed. (I had it on tape and accidently taped over it.)

There is time that's been discussed on these pages, where she held out her handcuffed wrists at the end of the show to show how she had been cuffed by a comedian cop who was appearing on the show. (I'll bet she handcuffed herself with her own cuffs.) I haven't seen this. Apparently nobody in our community does or they would be floating around. I'll bet the performer in question has a video of the ep. His webpage is http://www.comedycop.com.

There is an episode where she cuffed herself to Barbara Walters.

There is the time where she cam out dressed in leather with a handcuff dangling from one wrist. When she sat down and started to unlock the cuff, she remarked that she was having problems getting them off. Later the cuffs were on the table as the girls were talking, and woman who used to be a judge, I forget her name, was touching the cuffs and nudging them curiously as if she were to scared to pick them up.


TV Critic
Sunday February 09 18:32:37 2003
Re: Vector File, Lena Olin Actresses getting first treatment after 40
> Barbara Eden was born in 1934 and received a full
> treatment on the Rawhide series in the 1960's. In
> addition, she also received a full treatment (as
> Jeannie's evil sister) and a non-gag tie up on I Dream
> of Jeannie also in the 1960's. She was probably in her
> ealt to mid thirties when she did these scenes.
>
The scene he's probably referring to is from The Amazing Dobermans (1976). That would have made Barbara Eden 42 at the time.

Lesley-Anne Down has had two full treament scenes after the age of 40 (Death Wish V, You Belong To Me).
MadFish
Sunday February 09 20:32:12 2003
Boston Public?
Is it a new episode tomorrow night? Looks like a student is stalking a teacher (both female).
ss
Sunday February 09 20:38:00 2003
Zimbalist, Oxenberg, Spouse
>Zimbalist - gag.

IIRC there is a brief gag scene on "Prophet's Game". Perhaps there are several version of the movie.

###Oxenberg.
In "Lair of White Worm", she use a body double for the scene. On "Sanctimony", she use a doll for the scene, because after her body fell through the window, her leg remain bent (kneeling position). If a real person is hang, the leg will not bend. I wonder if they use body double on "Vector File".

###Spouse
Jennifer Beals and her husband on "4 Rooms".
Sondra Locke and Client Eastwood on "Gauntlet"
Also one of the old Hitchcok horror movie (birds?)
asian
Sunday February 09 20:41:58 2003
Wrong Turn
I not post here very often (Couse my English is noy so good), but last friday i went to and advance Screenig of "Camino Equivocado" (Wrong turn) and you probabably be intrested to know that Eliza is Tied to the bed whit a Tank Top in the last 15 minutes of the movie.
particularly i don´t like much Eliza but i think that probably have some fans on the forum.
The Scene is good but not great, and by moment too dark.

E
Enzo
legolas73@fibertel.com.ar
Sunday February 09 20:59:36 2003
Heather Graham In "The Guru"
I don't want to get anyone's hopes up or anything, but you may want to be on the lookout for an upcoming film entitled "The Guru." According to a capsule review in "The New Yorker," Heather Graham plays an adult film actress who is a "bondage goddess." That could mean anything, so like I said, don't get too excited yet. Just something to keep your eyes peeled for. (By the way, it's billed as a comedy.)
New Yorker
Sunday February 09 21:00:35 2003
Lone Star State of Mind
Hey, hate to be a pain in the ass, but can someone repost any links to caps/clips from this movie?

I found them a week or two ago, but the computer didn't seem to want to play them. I now have the problem fixed, but now I can't find the links!

I've tried searching the database here, but that seems to be erratic. (Sorry, Mod, if this is inaccurate.)

Anyway, can anyone help?
gasface
Sunday February 09 21:09:17 2003
Eva Herzigova
> Some interesting photos of model Eva Herzigova at the linked site.
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Anon22: Thanks for that link! Luv those "artistic" photos... Victoria's Secret: Please take note for Eva's next catalog layout!
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 09 21:28:44 2003
Unidentified movie
Just aired in Italy a 2002 USA TV movie starring David James Elliott as FBI agent Kurt Novak and Terry Farrell as his wife. A serial killer ties his victims' hands in front after killing them; there are two blondes found plus other ones seen in pictures. The main story is on a flight from Australia where a woman is bound and gagged and squirming wildly before being rescued. This movie doesn't exsist in the IMDB. Italian title is "Detective Novak indagine ad alta quota". Anybody knows anything about.

paolo
Sunday February 09 23:37:19 2003
Middle-aged / over 40
Loni Anderson was over 40 when she did her scene from PARTNERS IN CRIME? I thought she was younger than that.

How old was Victoria Principal when she did BLIND WITNESS?

I'm still waiting for Shelly Fabares to get bound and gagged.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Sunday February 09 23:48:10 2003
Re: The Collector continued.

> Jessi is right, Kidman is too mature to play a College
> Student. But I think the charecter could be changed to a
> women in her late Thirties without damaging the basics of
> the novel.

I must disagree with that point. I think the whole tone of the story would be changed. A women in her thirties would be much less innocent then a young college-age student, and that could lead to plot changes. Part of the charm of the book is Miranda's innocent nature.

> If I were casting the remake I would go with Natalie
> Portman as Miranda: Right age,Drop Dead Gorgeous, and a
> very good actress to boot.

A good choice, but my own personal favorite choice would be Katie Holmes, for the same reasons you mentioned. Another good choice might be Kari Russell, but since already has a couploe of good scenes behind her, I would go with Katie first.


Legend of the Wolf
Sunday February 09 23:53:57 2003
Re: Heather Graham In "The Guru"
> According to a capsule review in
> "The New Yorker," Heather Graham plays an adult film
> actress who is a "bondage goddess."

I'll keep an eye out for the film, but the term "bondage goddess" indicates that she might just be a dominatrix type rather than a DiD type.


Pat Powers

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