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Saturday February 22 00:49:19 2003
Re: STARGATE SG1
> What a bummer!!!

But take heart: Third Watch "Sunny, Like Sunshine" has yet to air tonight, at 11PM and 3AM PST on A&E:

--
Actress: Rebecca Harrell
Episode: "Sunny, Like Sunshine"
Rebecca has her hands bound overhead and is gagged with duct tape in a bathroom. Rescued by the cops.
Only wearing bra and panties.
--

Just noticed it. Haven't seen it. Hoping for the best, though...
Raffish
Saturday February 22 01:08:00 2003
Re: She Spies
> Damsels tied to chairs are very appealing to me, so it
> doesn't float everyone's boat, sorry.

It gets mine off the sandbar. To me there is nothing like a lady seated in a straight-back chair, hands tied behind, ropes encircling her torso, ankles and knees bound, preferably in a nice dress or skirt, with a big sloppy gag either in or over her mouth.




Mark O
Saturday February 22 01:20:00 2003
Re: David Gale
> What happened?? someone tell the scene!!!

Kate Winslet is reenacting a crime..she handcuffs herself behind her back and tape gags herself..unfortunately she then places a bag over her head...but after she starts running out of air..she rips off the bag and you get her with just the tape and a lot of mmphing and her struggling..so in that sense..it's a great scene..similar scene with Linney but it's more gruesome...and also the movie sucks..but the Winslet scene is really good!!
Saturday February 22 01:22:35 2003
Re: west coast alert - before I say goodbye
> Pax TV tonight at 8 PST. A brunette (Sean Young, I
> think) gets wrists duct tape bound on screen by another
> chick and later gets tape gagged. She does a lot
> mmpphing thru her gag and struggles decently. This all
> happened in the last 15 minutes of the movie. I did not
> watch it before this so there could have been earlier
> scenes or an abduction scene.

First of all, thanks very much Chris. That was indeed Sean Young getting her first full treatment, and what a scene it was! Purists may nitpick it, but I thought it was one of the better scenes that's been on TV in awhile.

There was no prior abduction scene, so you caught all of it. They just whonked her on the head and knocked her out.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 01:32:26 2003
Re: David Gale
> Kate Winslet is reenacting a crime..she handcuffs herself
> behind her back and tape gags herself..unfortunately she
> then places a bag over her head...but after she starts
> running out of air..she rips off the bag and you get her
> with just the tape and a lot of mmphing and her
> struggling..so in that sense..it's a great scene..similar
> scene with Linney but it's more gruesome...and also the
> movie sucks..but the Winslet scene is really good!!

Trying hard to picture this (mmm Kate Winslet...); I have to assume she tape gags herself prior to cuffing herself. The bag over the head can be a gruesome thing but can be very erotic if done in the spirit of play.
Mark O
Saturday February 22 01:35:17 2003
Re: STARGATE SG1
> But take heart: Third Watch "Sunny, Like Sunshine" has
> yet to air tonight, at 11PM and 3AM PST on A&E:
>
> Just noticed it. Haven't seen it. Hoping for the best,
> though...

Well, I will say it's definitely better than the SG-1 scene. It's very short(less than 10 seconds), and occurs somewhere between the 45-55min. mark of the epiosde.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 01:41:34 2003
Sean Young
The Pax-TV Web site is awful. You can't find any listings to figure if and when it will reair. I'm sure it will air sometime. Makes me appreciate the Lifetime Web site. At least you can do a search. From the photo on the site, it looks like Sean (now 44) has not aged well.
Brian W.
Saturday February 22 02:03:39 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
> Everyone by now can say that silver duct tape has become
> the most popular gag for damsels in mainstream media. But
> how and when film directors realize that this type of gag
> would be the best one they use for actresses getting the
> full treatment? I remember those 80's white medical tape
> gags being relegated by duct tape in the early 90's.

A very good question. I never saw a duct tape gag until the mid-1990s. The oldest one in my collection is Gillian Anderson from 1995 on "The X-Files." This is the episode where she's gagged in the field and saved by Mulder at the last second. Kristin Davis in "A Deadly Vision" from 1996 was second. I know everyone is thinking it'll be easy to beat 1995 but when you start looking back, there may not be that many. I don't think I have one duct tape scene from any soap operas.

Brian W.
Saturday February 22 02:06:34 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
Sorry, Kristin Davis should have been from 1997.
Brian W.
Saturday February 22 02:35:16 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel

>I know everyone is thinking it'll be
> easy to beat 1995 but when you start looking back, there
> may not be that many. I don't think I have one duct tape
> scene from any soap operas.
>

Janet Julian was gagged with gray tape in '86's CHOKE CANYON, but I don't think it was duct tape ... possibly vinyl.

KILL KILL OVERKILL (1991) may not have been the first ... but most of its budget went for the stuff.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Saturday February 22 05:23:23 2003
Re: time to flex memory muscles
> I have tried to locate the show on video, and looked at
> other vidcap sites, and came up with nothing. Perhaps
> there is someone out there that remembers the show too.

There's more caps and a clip with this week's update.
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/secretservice/secretservice01.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/secretservice/secretservice03.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/secretservice/secretservice07.jpg
Anubis
Saturday February 22 05:26:17 2003
doh.
Of course, the url would help.
Anubis
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/
Saturday February 22 07:49:10 2003
Life of David Gale; Before I Say Goodbye
> Kate Winslet is reenacting a crime..she handcuffs herself behind her back and tape gags herself..unfortunately she then places a bag over her head...but after she starts running out of air..she rips off the bag and you get her with just the tape and a lot of mmphing and her struggling..so in that sense..it's a great scene..similar scene with Linney but it's more gruesome...and also the movie sucks..but the Winslet scene is really good!!
> > >
Request: For those who were lucky enough to have caught "Life of David Gale" and "Before I Say Goodbye" last night, please be sure to enter them into the Scene Database.

Saturday February 22 08:26:43 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
> > I wonder who could have been the first damsel that gets
>
> > the honor of wearing the first piece of duct tape in
> her
> > mouth.
>

I first heard of duct tape circa 1980. No long after that, I remember a guest damsel getting The Treatment with duct tapeon the short-lived show "Strike Firve" starring Robert Stack.


Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Saturday February 22 08:27:55 2003
Oops
That Should be "Strike Force" That's what you get for doing too much too early!
Historian
Saturday February 22 08:44:20 2003
Farscape & Claudia Black
While everyone was focusing on other stuff like the very disappointing SG-1 scene, good old Farscape slipped in a decent scene last night featuring Claudia Black dressed up as the Chiana character in a weird alternate universe kind of thing being led thru the ship by Scorpius and John, bound and GAGGED, with a metal plate of some sort.

I'm surprised no one else has said anything about it.

The great news is, it's finally a gag scene for the very sexy Claudia Black, but the bad news is she looks exactly like Chiana so it's almost like it's not her, if you know what I mean.

I'm totally missed the Sean Young scene. Damn.
The Greyman
vincegrey@thegreyman.net
http://www.thegreyman.net
Saturday February 22 08:45:07 2003
Stargate: B&G-1
Okay, *granted* this is a *real* missed opportunity (IDIOT DIRECTOR!!!)... but every cloud is half full... (or something like that.)

The first time we see Sam writhing in the dirt, the guy who's not Samuel Jackson comes running up to rescue her & gets zapped. She's lying on her side with her back to the camera & we can't see the gag; HOWEVER, we get a good look at the black cable tie binding her wrists, & SHE REALLY IS BOUND!

The second time: Jack looks through his monocular & we get a really bad long-shot look of the gag. THIS IS THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY OF THE SEASON!!! ...not because of the bondage [Van's Law #1: It's Never About the Bondage/It's Always About the Story]... but because the through-the-monocular shot *SHOULD* have been a nice close-up of Sam's gagged face; THEN there should have been a reaction shot for Jack (who is not-so-secretly in love with Sam.)

The rescue is an anti-climax. The villains have already left for the stargate & abandoned the B&G'd Sam as bait to slow down SG-1.

Concept: *
Damsel: *****
Execution: _
http://www.fmconceptsinc.com/stargate.JPG
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Saturday February 22 09:24:42 2003
Re: Stargate: B&G-1

> Okay, *granted* this is a *real* missed opportunity
> (IDIOT DIRECTOR!!!)... but every cloud is half full...
> (or something like that.)
>
> The first time we see Sam writhing in the dirt, the guy
> who's not Samuel Jackson comes running up to rescue her

Why would Shaft be rescueing Major Carter?


The part that bugs me is that there was no scene that even came close to the publicity photo. She was lying on her side the whole time.

I wonder how a ligitimate actress feels about poseing in bondage for a scene thats not even in the project she's trying to promote. She has to be aware that they are selling the bondage which means that someone on the set is probably getting aroused seeing her that way or they wouldn't have thought of it as a strong selling point.

Also you know that the shows photographer took more than one shot of her. He probably shot a whole role and let one of the higher ups choose which shot to use. Maybe we will get to see some of the other shots someday.
Mark C
Saturday February 22 10:21:54 2003
Re: oltl

> Here's a sample. I hope the Moderator doesn't delete it
> for being too big.

I wish I had had the wit to come up with this.......Respect!

Kenny
kenneth962@hotmail.com
Saturday February 22 10:25:57 2003
Re: STARGATE SG1
> Just noticed it. Haven't seen it. Hoping for the best,
> though...

It's a good scene, well worth taping, but very brief and seriously underlit. And I mean SERIOUSLY underlit. If it had been properly illuminated and a little longer, it would have been one of the top scenes of its season.

Saturday February 22 10:34:17 2003
Re: Farscape & Claudia Black
> While everyone was focusing on other stuff like the very
> disappointing SG-1 scene, good old Farscape slipped in a
> decent scene last night featuring Claudia Black dressed
> up as the Chiana character in a weird alternate universe
> kind of thing being led thru the ship by Scorpius and
> John, bound and GAGGED, with a metal plate of some sort.

Oh, hell, this is EXACTLY what I was afraid of. My cable goes out and Farscape comes through with, not just a gag scene, but a gag scene involving a FUTURISTIC METAL GAG!!!!

Maybe I need to start thinking about getting a dish antenna...
Pat Powers
Saturday February 22 11:50:45 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
>I know everyone is thinking it'll be
> easy to beat 1995 but when you start looking back, there
> may not be that many. I don't think I have one duct tape
> scene from any soap operas.

The two Katherine's (Moffat and Cannon) scene in Hunter predates that scene by eleven years (1984), so there had to be others.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 12:45:04 2003
Re: memory muscles (Secret Service)
> On the mother/daughter scene, I never saw it but Rich has
> a cap of the mother tape-gagged on his site.

Someone over on DB Corrections IDed this as Laurie
Holden. She did guest star in the series, but this pic
doesn't look that much like her to me.

Rich, do you have any other caps from the scene? Or does
anyone else? If you don't have a place to display them
from, email them to me.

I'll also try find the scene on tape and check it.

http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/secretservice_motherdaughter.jpg
Brian R
Saturday February 22 12:52:07 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
> >I know everyone is thinking it'll be
> > easy to beat 1995 but when you start looking back,
> there
> > may not be that many. I don't think I have one duct
> tape
> > scene from any soap operas.
>
> The two Katherine's (Moffat and Cannon) scene in Hunter
> predates that scene by eleven years (1984), so there had
> to be others.

The earliest duct tape scene in my database is from "Weekend of Terror" with Barbara Barnett (1970). The earliest TV show that I have is Charlie's Angels "Magic Fire" with Kate Jackson, original airdate 11/30/77.

Just to be complete, the earliest tape scene of any kind that I have goes back to Edna Mae Oliver in 1935's "Murder On A Honeymoon".
Gagster
Saturday February 22 12:54:38 2003
Re: Stargate: B&G-1
>
> > Okay, *granted* this is a *real* missed opportunity
> > (IDIOT DIRECTOR!!!)... but every cloud is half full...
>
> > (or something like that.)
> >
> > The first time we see Sam writhing in the dirt, the guy
> > who's not Samuel Jackson comes running up to rescue her
>
> Why would Shaft be rescueing Major Carter?

WHY??? Just LOOK at her!!! I meant to say the guy who's not *Daniel* Jackson, of course. :-)

Who's the WASP archeologist with the glasses who knows all about ancient languages?

Jackson... Daniel Jackson.

You say this Jackson is a *baaad* mutha---

Shut your mouth!

I'm just talkin' 'bout Jackson. :-)

> The part that bugs me is that there was no scene that
> even came close to the publicity photo. She was lying on
> her side the whole time.
>
> I wonder how a ligitimate actress feels about poseing in
> bondage for a scene thats not even in the project she's
> trying to promote. She has to be aware that they are
> selling the bondage which means that someone on the set
> is probably getting aroused seeing her that way or they
> wouldn't have thought of it as a strong selling point.

Most productions have a photographer who wanders around taking photos. I seriously doubt they posed Amanda especially for the photo of her B&G'd & sitting up. They were probably changing the setup or reloading cameras & she sat up to get comfortable... & he took the shot. It's probably no big deal, especially on a set where everyone gets along (& rumor is SG-1 is just such a set.)

> Also you know that the shows photographer took more than
> one shot of her. He probably shot a whole role and let
> one of the higher ups choose which shot to use. Maybe we
> will get to see some of the other shots someday.

There is another pic that exists (below) that appeared in the same magazine as the "Sam B&G'd" image, but a different issue. The print version was uncropped & shows Sam's tape-gag lying on the ground. (Someone mentioned this here before.) Anyhoo... a white rectangle (paper) is clearly visible plastered to the inside of the tape right where Amanda's lips would be. You can see that the stars are looking elsewhere & are in character, so it's our Staff Photographer friend at work again. :-)

My guess is on a friendly set with "normal" people... something like a DiD scene is probably treated as fun... & so is the scene where one of the guys gets wet eight times in a row, or has to keep eating fruit loops, or someone keeps tripping over a clutter of props during a complicated action sequence, etc. No big deal. "Hey look! Amanda's tied up again." "Very funny guys."
http://www.gateworld.net/news/graphics/forsaken.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Saturday February 22 13:17:31 2003
Lost world
Just wanted to thank Kerhop for the clip of Jennifer in the lost world... more of her plz :)
did lover
Saturday February 22 13:29:45 2003
"No one can hear you now"

>"no one can
> hear you now." Damn, that is one of my least favorite
> phrases of all time

Here's a scene I'd like to see:

We see the kidnapper's face as he sarcastically tells the damsel "Scream all you want, nobody will be able to hear you."

Then it cuts to a closeup of the damsel's face with all kind of tape and stuff wrapped around her mouth.



Saturday February 22 13:54:51 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
> The two Katherine's (Moffat and Cannon) scene in Hunter
> predates that scene by eleven years (1984), so there had
> to be others.

Good memory. I remember that scene but didn't save it. That might be the winner for straight gray duct tape.
Brian W.
Saturday February 22 14:05:32 2003
Re: "No one can hear you now"
> We see the kidnapper's face as he sarcastically tells the
> damsel "Scream all you want, nobody will be able to hear
> you."
>
> Then it cuts to a closeup of the damsel's face with all
> kind of tape and stuff wrapped around her mouth.

That's a good one! That you be a great tease in our favor. Filmmakers, if you want to do something different with the DID sceneario, please take note!



mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday February 22 14:18:15 2003
hogtie
OK..

lets test all the clever minds out there:
when was the first hogtie??
the ridler
Saturday February 22 14:23:18 2003
Re: She Spies
> To me there is nothing like
> a lady seated in a straight-back chair, hands tied
> behind, ropes encircling her torso, ankles and knees
> bound, preferably in a nice dress or skirt, with a big
> sloppy gag either in or over her mouth.

I like chair ties as well. They may be a little over-used, and they can have the same pitfalls as any other scene, but if they are done right, I like them. I also share your preferences both the damsel's bonds and her attire. As for the gag, for me it can be either neat or sloppy, as long as it is comprised out of cloth or tape and appers to be getting the job done.

One thing you did not mention was your "footwear' preference on a B&G'd damsel, attired as you have described: heels, boots (knee high), sneakers, flats, ankleboots, sandals or barefoot? I prefer either boots (knee-high) or sneakers (extremely rare when damsel is wearing a skirt or dress), though I do not mind heels, barefoot, sandals, ankleboots, or flats (in that order of preference).






mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday February 22 14:31:07 2003
SHE SPIES/Early duct tape scenes

"While You Were Out", airing this week (I've posted an alert for Sunday in the SF Bay area) will have a scene, according to Bob's alert on the 18th:

<This week's episode, "While You Were Out", has Kristen Miller gagged with arms tied behind back.>

Any skinny on scene time(s) would be appreciated.

Re early ductings: What is the defintion of duct tape? Is it just the shiny silver stuff? It would be difficult to discern any other type unless there are *close* closeups.

I don't know that Kate Jackson's gag qualifies ... it was dark gray and could have been gaffer's tape or some other type. I have to concur that the earliest definite example I can think of at the moment is from HUNTER.

I wonder if the change was precipitated in part by the discontinuing of the 2" wide white med tape years ago ... I haven't seen it stocked in donkey's years.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Saturday February 22 14:50:34 2003
Re: SHE SPIES/Early duct tape scenes
> <This week's episode, "While You Were Out", has Kristen
> Miller gagged with arms tied behind back.>
>
There's not even a description of the gag. I'm always suspicious of these by nature since the show doesn't air until the weekend in most places. The alert was posted on Monday. I think it airs in Philly today, so hopefully we'll get a preview.
Brian W.
Saturday February 22 14:55:02 2003
Re: SHE SPIES/Early duct tape scenes
> Re early ductings: What is the defintion of duct tape?
> Is it just the shiny silver stuff? It would be
> difficult to discern any other type unless there are
> *close* closeups.

> I wonder if the change was precipitated in part by the
> discontinuing of the 2" wide white med tape years
> ago ...
> I haven't seen it stocked in donkey's years.

It's all good to me. I've said in the past, I'd like to see some scenes with the white medical tape just for a change. I think whoever started the thread was referring to the shiny silver stuff though.

They still make 2 and 3 inch white medical tape. I've seen it in drug stores. I'm sure the changes in TV/Film followed real life as stories of women being gagged with duct tape were reported. Besides, duct tape is cheaper sticks better, and is much stronger. Even villains like to save a few pennies here and there.

I'm fairly certain Hunter was NOT the first time I saw duct tape used. That was just the earliest one I could remember. It was probably some 70's or early 80's horror flick.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 15:14:07 2003
Early duct tape scenes
I found this entry in the DB which lists a duct tape gag used in 1968. Has anyone ever seen this one?

Record number: 1309

Title: Finders, Keepers, Lovers, Weepers (1968)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Anne Chapman

Description: Tied up and tape gagged with duct tape by two robbers in a bar. Shes fondled and fettered in order to force her husband to give them the combination of the safe. Violent squirming, loud protesting. Closeups, fairly long scene. guy alert.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 15:22:59 2003
Re: SHE SPIES/Early duct tape scenes
>
> They still make 2 and 3 inch white medical tape. I've
> seen it in drug stores.
>

I should have been more specific. The waterproof first aid tape made my Johnson & Johnson and others seems to have disappeared in the 2" width.

Harmony shoots featured it quite a bit until the mid '80s or so ... then it appeared to drop from the radar.

I still can't think of any silver duct tape gags precedent to the HUNTER scene.
Biff
Saturday February 22 15:29:33 2003
Re: Early duct tape scenes
> I found this entry in the DB which lists a duct tape gag
> used in 1968. Has anyone ever seen this one?
>
> Record number: 1309
> Title: Finders, Keepers, Lovers, Weepers (1968)

MadFish:
Yes, just aired here recent.

I'll see if can recall exact which DiDcap-DiDclippers going to be receiving it, so those interested know which ones to keep an eye on.

Off-hand, Bindher's.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 22 15:43:55 2003
Earliest Silver Duct Tape Gag scenes
According to the database, the two earliest silver duct tape scenes were probably the scenes with an unknown in the Canadian movie Self Defense a/k/a siege a/k/a Night Warriors (1983) and a scene with Judith McGrath in the Australian Women's prison soap Prisoner: Cellblock H a/k/a Prisoner: Caged Heat which the database indicates was from the 1983 season. Ironically, the descriptions for both scenes in the database, written years after the scenes were first shown, refer to the gags as 'ubiquitous silver duct tape".

These scenes would appear to predate the Hunter scene, and the other mid-80's scene by at least a year. Kate Jackson's gag in Charlies Angels "Magic Fire" was either black or brown tape, and, like Biff, I am not sure her gag could be accurately classified as duct tape.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday February 22 15:51:19 2003
Re: Early duct tape scenes
> Title: Finders, Keepers, Lovers, Weepers (1968)
> Medium: Movie
> Actress: Anne Chapman

Beat me to mentioning that one. When I first saw that one years ago I was surprised to see duct tape being used as a gag in something over 25 years old. It was directed by Russ meyer, who also gave us the great scene from "Faster Pussycat Kill KIll" which has always been one of my favorite movies, not just because of the bondage scene. Its just a damn good flick.
The only other Russ Meyer flicks I've seen bondage in was "Wild Gals of the Naked West" and "Supervixens".
Anubis
Saturday February 22 16:13:00 2003
Re: Finders Keepers- DiDclippers
> Title: Finders, Keepers, Lovers, Weepers (1968)

> I'll see if can recall exact which DiDcap-DiDclippers

These some of the DiD-clipper & cappers that will be receiving, for you fellas interested.

All great for posting scenes up for us here:

Bindher
Anubis
G-Man
Fuzz

Suggest checking them in the next few weeks.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 22 16:15:52 2003
Speck
The local Bockbuster has 'Speck' in the new releases section.

Of course all the copies were out.

Nothing in the database with 'Speck' as the title.

From the cover art and write up it looks like at least an attempt to portray those sad events accuractely [only one small head shot showing an Asian with a thin cleave, and a couple of shots that could be showing bound, but ungagged, victims].

Anybody viewed it.
Jacot
Saturday February 22 17:00:42 2003
Re: today's soap scenes
> Days of Our Lives - what's up with just cuffing Kirsten
> Storms to the railing by one wrist?

Does anyone have pics of this. If so could you post a link to the site and/or post some to the message board? Thanx
Saturday February 22 17:01:11 2003
Duct Tape
Actually duct tape is not often used in filming scenes. Its gaffers tape and its used for two reasons. First its found on every set because audio people use it to keep cables in place and it doesn't leave residue which keeps makeup people happy. Second there is rarely a continuity problem if the shooting brakes for lunch in the middle of a scene. Think how many scenes keep switching between otm and cleave gags. You can tell the difference in that gaffers tape is smooth while duct tape usually has a ridge pattern.
AudioVisual
Saturday February 22 17:13:30 2003
Re: Duct Tape
> Actually duct tape is not often used in filming scenes.
> Its gaffers tape and its used for two reasons. First its
> found on every set because audio people use it to keep
> cables in place and it doesn't leave residue which keeps
> makeup people happy. Second there is rarely a continuity
> problem if the shooting brakes for lunch in the middle of
> a scene. Think how many scenes keep switching between
> otm and cleave gags. You can tell the difference in that
> gaffers tape is smooth while duct tape usually has a
> ridge pattern.

Thank you for this detailed explanation, but I have a question: Does gaffer's tape adhere just as tightly as duct tape, and is it as painful to peel off?
I also believe that duct tape has been used by real-life criminal to gag female victims ever since its invention. I believe it is widely used in actual crimes because it is versatile, ubiquitous, inexpensive, portable, and the criminal doesn't care how much discomfort will be caused to the damsel when her gag is peeled off her mouth.
Hadji
Saturday February 22 17:47:19 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
> But that's not duct tape.

Point taken. I've been racking my brain trying to I.D. the earliest duct tape-scene only to be outdone by other posters. I kept thinking of the Kate Jackson "Magic fire" scene, but again that's not the silver duct tape we've all come to know and love. I suppose that may be one of the earliest "black tape" scenes, though.

PRW
Saturday February 22 17:51:24 2003
Re: before I say goodbye
> First of all, thanks very much Chris. That was indeed
> Sean Young getting her first full treatment, and what a
> scene it was!

Hear,hear! It was quite good. I'll be keeping an eye out for it to repeat.

PRW
Saturday February 22 17:59:22 2003
Are you talking to me?
There is a video music with 2 blonde women bound inside a small steel cage (end of clips).
I don't know the title or the artist, but the main lyrics is: "Are you talking to me?".
The singers are 2 male black singer with Afro hairstyle and black leather clothes. What is the title and the name of the singer?
T.I.A.
asian
Saturday February 22 18:32:43 2003
Re: "No one can hear you now"
>
> >"no one can
> > hear you now." Damn, that is one of my least favorite
> > phrases of all time
>
> Here's a scene I'd like to see:
>
> We see the kidnapper's face as he sarcastically tells the
> damsel "Scream all you want, nobody will be able to hear
> you."
>
> Then it cuts to a closeup of the damsel's face with all
> kind of tape and stuff wrapped around her mouth.

Oh, that is tasty. I could see it working in any number of comedy venues. Would work well in a sitcom, for example, or in a "Police Squad" style parody. See, even if Hollywood folk don't care about bondage -- and they sure do a lot of it for people who don't care about it -- this sort of witty approach is gonna work for any audience.



Pat Powers
Saturday February 22 18:46:04 2003
Melissa Archer
A cleave looks so much better.
http://www.bindher.com/bullboard/daytime/oltlnat/nat002.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/bullboard/daytime/oltlgag/oltlgag002.jpg
Saturday February 22 19:22:55 2003
charmed???
isn't there supposed to be an episode of Charmed coming up with rose macgowen (sp?) tied & gagged? someone said it would air next sunday but my listings don't show it airing at all on sunday. also does anyone have a channel? I know it airs on Tuesday at 9pm on TNT but i think that's the syndicated shows. i'm not sure when new shows air, maybe UPN? RR
rob-roy
Saturday February 22 19:24:13 2003
Re: She Spies
Has anyone seen "While You Were Out" yet?

And about the PAX movie last night with Sean Young, hey, she may be 44, but she's still Sean Young. I prefer my damsel a little older anyway.





Sir_Knott
Saturday February 22 19:29:48 2003
Re: charmed???
> isn't there supposed to be an episode of Charmed coming
> up with rose macgowen (sp?) tied & gagged? someone said
> it would air next sunday but my listings don't show it
> airing at all on sunday. also does anyone have a
> channel? I know it airs on Tuesday at 9pm on TNT but i
> think that's the syndicated shows. i'm not sure when new
> shows air, maybe UPN? RR

Hmmm....I think the episode is called "A Witches' Tale", and strangly enough, it isn't listed in my TV Guide for Sunday either. I checked TVGuide.com & in my area is lists the Charmed episode as airing Sunday, Mar. 2 at 7pm (central) on the WB, but my TV Guide (the book) lists "The Surreal Life" as showing at that time on Sunday on that channel. Oh well, watch & see I guess. I know I'd rather see Rose in bondage than Corey Feldman in...well, any situation!
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Saturday February 22 19:38:19 2003
Farscape
Did anyone catch the episode title of last night's Farscape? Sci-Fi sometimes repeats some of their shows later in the week & I wonder if it will air again later this week sometime for those of us who missed it. I even had the dumb show on waiting for Stargate to start but didn't think to watch or record it! Grrrr!
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Saturday February 22 19:57:36 2003
Re: charmed???
> > isn't there supposed to be an episode of Charmed coming
>
> > up with rose macgowen (sp?) tied & gagged? someone
> said
> > it would air next sunday but my listings don't show it
>
> > airing at all on sunday. also does anyone have a
> > channel? I know it airs on Tuesday at 9pm on TNT but i
>
> > think that's the syndicated shows. i'm not sure when
> new
> > shows air, maybe UPN? RR
>
>


It's called Baby's First Demon. It is the next new episode and last I heard it was scheduled for March 2. This week(Feb 23) Charmed isn't on. It airs on the WB at 8 pm EST.
Saturday February 22 20:02:14 2003
Re: David Gale
>
> What happened?? someone tell the scene!!!
>

Can't wait for the DVD commentary from Kate
http://www.stevesdids.com/oddstuff/katewinslet.jpg
Saturday February 22 20:02:39 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel

>I suppose that may be one of
> the earliest "black tape" scenes, though.
>

Just so you know, it was a very dark gray. I'm quite certain of that.

Just as duct tape is the default type in the US, shiny brown packing tape occupies that position in Japanese scenes. Interestingly (or not), I don't know that I've ever seen silver tape used in a Japanese production.
Biff
Saturday February 22 20:14:37 2003
Re: Farscape
> Did anyone catch the episode title of last night's
> Farscape? Sci-Fi sometimes repeats some of their shows
> later in the week & I wonder if it will air again later
> this week sometime for those of us who missed it. I even
> had the dumb show on waiting for Stargate to start but
> didn't think to watch or record it! Grrrr!

The episode title was "Prayer". I checked already. Farscape is only once a week now and they're still airing new episodes. We'll have to wait until it comes around again.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 20:19:39 2003
Re: memory muscles (Secret Service)
> Rich, do you have any other caps from the scene? Or does
> anyone else? If you don't have a place to display them
> from, email them to me.
>
Has anyone responded to this? If not, I have this scene and will make the caps. If someone has already volunteered, please let me know because it takes me a few extra steps to make caps since I don't have a video capture card in my PC. Also, do you want the caps sent to your feedback address?



MadFish
Saturday February 22 20:36:18 2003
Re: charmed???
> It's called Baby's First Demon. It is the next new
> episode and last I heard it was scheduled for March 2.
> This week(Feb 23) Charmed isn't on. It airs on the WB at 8 pm EST.

According to WB's website, the episode "Witch's Tail" will air on 3/2. I also got this from ZapItTv

The next original episode of "Charmed" is tentatively scheduled to air March 9, and according to Kern, the fun continues. "'Baby's First Demon' is a cute episode, where we reveal that this baby has quite a few powers, enough that it makes a certain demon faction want the baby, except it's not going to be very easy to get the baby."

As always, CYLL.
MadFish
Saturday February 22 20:42:11 2003
Re: memory muscles (Secret Service)

> Has anyone responded to this?

It's on Anubis' site this week (check back 15 hours before your post).




Rich McGill
Saturday February 22 21:50:06 2003
General Hospital alert
A spoiler said "Tuesday, Alexis is tied to a bed"

Alexis is played by Nancy Lee Grahn, a still attractive 40-something brunette.
chris
Saturday February 22 21:52:12 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
Look at this web site ! It says duct tape " first called "duck tape" has been around since ww 2 and became availalbe to the public around that time as well, so it is a good bet that there are some very early TV movie scenes albeit I know of none. http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/dthistory.html



Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Saturday February 22 21:55:45 2003
Re: First duct tape gagged damsel
Look at this web site ! Here is another one.
http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/ducttape.htm




Alex Bond
Saturday February 22 22:03:01 2003
Angie Harmon in Agent Cody Banks?
Saw a couple of interesting pics on the web site for "Agent Cody Banks." Looks the Dr. Evil-type villain in this upcoming Frankie Muniz kid flick has captured Angie Harmon and Hilary Duff (Lizzie McGuire). I found three pics among all the Flash crap on the site. No ropes or other fetters are evident. Looks like henchmen have the ladies by the arms (one henchman per arm). Is their a Brian's Page name or acronym for that kind of restraint, by the way (AHSBEH - Arms Held Securely By Evil Henchmen?)?

Ms. Harmon looks HIGHLY competent in a fitted, all-silver spy suit. Her zippered top is strategically arranged for maximum kid-flick-level titillation.

I'm hoping for this: "Dr.-Evil-type explains his master plan to the beautiful captives before ordering the henchmen to Take Them Away, after which they are seen in stringent restraint as bait, insurance policies, and/or potential queens." But I fear that the AHSBEH imply that the plot calls for the ladies to use their hands to help when the rescuer bursts in, and that's why they haven't been tied.

Which begs the tough question: Can you think of examples of where being held by the arms prefaces more traditional bondage (Tanya Tucker in "Georgia Peach"), and others where the captive just kinda breaks free?

(Reminds me of a huge missed opportunity, where this real hottie in some wild action-adventure-comedy with lots of Elvis music has her AHSBEH of a self-proclaimed Sultan, then ends up on a cot in a train. She's gagged, and supPOSedly tied, but they covered her beautiful, sexily-clad bod with a FREAKIN' BLANKET, and then let you see the footage where her UNTIED hand actually slips out from under the blanket!)
Not Brian
http://www.agentcodybanksmovie.com
Saturday February 22 23:05:30 2003
Re: Third Watch
> But take heart: Third Watch "Sunny, Like Sunshine" has
> yet to air tonight, at 11PM and 3AM PST on A&E:
>
> --
> Actress: Rebecca Harrell
> Episode: "Sunny, Like Sunshine"
> Rebecca has her hands bound overhead and is gagged with
> duct tape in a bathroom. Rescued by the cops.
> Only wearing bra and panties.

Unfortunately, this episode of Third Watch is not the one that A & E showed tonite. No scenes.I don't know about the 1am airing, but the one that aired at 9pm was a different episode.
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Saturday February 22 23:14:54 2003
Re: memory muscles (Secret Service)
> > Has anyone responded to this?
> It's on Anubis' site this week (check back 15 hours
> before your post).

Cool.
I only have the 1 jpg of the scene.
I wish I had more time to make more JPGs,
but I will try in the future.

I am almost sure that it is not Laurie Holden.
Compare:

cgg1 0:18:09 Two(Many Happy Returns) [14] #1924
Laurie Holden (Madeline Reynolds)

tgg1 0:38:43 Secret Service(@mother daughter) [20] #6907
http://bindherupx.net/cgg1/laurieholden.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/secretservice_motherdaughter.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Saturday February 22 23:38:27 2003
Re: memory muscles (Secret Service)

> Has anyone responded to this? If not, I have this scene
> and will make the caps.

Don't worry about it. I dug out the tape, definitely
not Laurie.

Brian R
Saturday February 22 23:52:37 2003
Re: Speck
> The local Bockbuster has 'Speck' in the new releases
> section.
>
> Anybody viewed it.


I checked it out tonight. If you can get past the idea that it's a true (and pretty horrific) story and reduce it to a bunch of actresses getting tied up in a movie...then WOW. Haven't seen anything like this since TAU (which it pretty closely resembles).

Five or six actresses, some fairly good looking, all hogtied with torn up bed sheets, all eventually gagged with thin, tight cleaves. Ample struggling, including two money shots from above of all five or six at the same time, writhing on the bed or the floor. Some onscreen tying, girls getting carried around while still bound, and a Herculean effort by one (the eventual sole survivor) to somehow crawl, still hogtied, out of the bedroom and down a flight of stairs. Pretty impressive stuff.

Again, I assume most people know the historical details, and from that standpoint, leering at the bondage scenes in this movie does feel a little creepy. Be that as it may, however, this has got to be one of the most bondage laden mainstream flicks I've ever seen.

Run, don't walk.
CTS
Saturday February 22 23:58:45 2003
Re: Do or Die
> she is the main actress) strapped to a table.

How was the above scene? Any others? When did it (they) occur?



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