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| Sunday February 23 00:21:06 2003 Re: Speck |
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> > The local Bockbuster has 'Speck' > Haven't seen anything like this since > TAU (which it pretty closely resembles) What movie is TAU ? |
| Sunday February 23 00:29:20 2003 Do or Die |
| Nice scene. In the last 15 minutes. Lots of shots. Also a guy, but for some reason, there are virtually no closeups of him.
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| Pat Powers |
| Sunday February 23 00:34:53 2003 Re: Do or Die |
| > > she is the main actress) strapped to a table.
> > How was the above scene? Any others? When did it (they) > occur? My previous post answered a lot of your qs, but I hadn't seen yourse when I posted it. I taped the whole movie, but just caught the last 15 minutes, so I can't say if there were other earlier scenes. But almost immediately after this scene, a brunette is restrained at the wrists and head in a chair, voluntarily but with painful results for her. |
| Pat Powers |
| Sunday February 23 00:49:45 2003 Re: Speck |
| > What movie is TAU ?
TERROR AMONG US |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Sunday February 23 01:05:17 2003 Re: Speck |
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> > What movie is TAU ? > > TERROR AMONG US Thanks! That's the movie I was thinking of, but I couldn't think of the name. The only word that kept coming to mind was "Stranger" something, like the Stranger Within. |
| Sunday February 23 01:09:22 2003 Re: Do or Die |
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> > > she is the main actress) strapped to a table. > > > > How was the above scene? This movie just started again on SiFi. |
| Sunday February 23 01:14:49 2003 Re: Do or Die |
| A quick review of the tape shows several earlier scenes, too. A few minutes prior to the final scenes, there's a shot of the same damsel standing confined in a small metal cage attached to what appears to be a forklift. Her wrists are confined in silver cuffs. Another damsel in a black one-piece swimsuit is seen in the background, also confined to a small metal cage. There's a guy in the scene, and naturally HE is the one wearing a gag.
Earlier still there's a much more pneumatic blonde in the same sexy black outfit strapped down in a spreadeagle. There's also a guy, and unfortunately, a lot more guy interference. Also also unfortunately, the scene is ineptly shot from the standpoint of taking advantage of this damsel's curvaceousness. I mean, COME ON, if you're going to have a hot blonde dressed in a sexy black bikini with straps spreadeagled on a stone slab, you're OBVIOUSLY doin' a little exploitation here! So do it right! Don't muck it up with badly conceived shots that don't reveal how gorgeous the damsel is. Also also also unfortunately, the blonde and the guy age very rapidly as a result of what happens on the stone slab, and so you wind up watching somebody that looks like great grandma writhe on the slab. Also also also also unfortunately, the scene ends badly for them. Earlier earlier still, there's a scene of an already-aged couple writhing on the slabs. I'd tape at least the last hour, maybe the whole thing, just to be safe. |
| Pat Powers |
| Sunday February 23 01:50:21 2003 Re: Early duct tape scenes |
| > > Title: Finders, Keepers, Lovers, Weepers (1968)
> > Beat me to mentioning that one. When I first saw that one > years ago I was surprised to see duct tape being used as > a gag in something over 25 years old. So, as I thought, late 60's or early 70's was the first time. The 1968 film I never saw but Weekend of Terror was 1970 TV movie of the week, I think with Robert Conrad. The girl ran down the stairs and out to the porch in the opening segment, and she wore a gray tape gag; she was very pretty as I recall. The rest of the film sucked for scenes I believe. That means duct tape has been around for over 30 years, and of course, is now more popular than ever. But not with me and a lot of other people here I suspect. Time for a change, yes? So, you can't imagine the change... good, then just go back to white cloth, it's still the classic look, IMHO. |
| Sunday February 23 02:21:57 2003 Re: Speck |
| > The local Bockbuster has 'Speck' in the new releases
> section. > small head shot showing an Asian with a thin cleave, and > a couple of shots that could be showing bound, but > ungagged, victims]. > Anybody viewed it. Im not a big fan of Richard Speck's work, but I've said it before and I'll say it again. The recent fad in serial killer movies has paid off pretty good so far, especially for some of us who like more intense and realistic bondage in movies. |
| Anubis |
| Sunday February 23 02:25:01 2003 Re: memory muscles (Secret Service) |
| > > > Has anyone responded to this?
> > It's on Anubis' site this week (check back 15 hours > > before your post). > Thanks for the plug, but I think that guy was asking about a different scene from S.S., not the one thats currently on my site. |
| Anubis |
| Sunday February 23 05:53:27 2003 Re: Third Watch |
| > Unfortunately, this episode of Third Watch is not the one
> that A & E showed tonite. No scenes.I don't know about > the 1am airing, but the one that aired at 9pm was a > different episode. Guess I got lucky, then...the TiVo was doing something else at 9, so I opted for the 1am showing, which was indeed the right episode. I suppose it's possible that they're "off by one," in which case the episode of interest would air a second time on Monday at 9pm. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday February 23 06:48:52 2003 Dangerous Cargo (1996) |
| On this bad Russian / German action TV movie, the old Margaux Hemingway was bound to bed (hand behind her back) with her female friend. (no gag).
She managed to release the rope and her friend asked: "How do you do it?" Margaux: "I practiced it every night, while you were dreaming about your American boyfriend!" |
| asian |
| Sunday February 23 07:32:01 2003 Re: Angie Harmon in Agent Cody Banks? |
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> Saw a couple of interesting pics on the web site for > "Agent Cody Banks." Looks the Dr. Evil-type villain in > this upcoming Frankie Muniz kid flick has captured Angie > Harmon and Hilary Duff (Lizzie McGuire). I found three > pics among all the Flash crap on the site. No ropes or > other fetters are evident. I saw as preview for this film yesterday. I'm pretty sure I saw a quick flash of Harmon getting handgagged. |
| Mark C |
| Sunday February 23 07:39:47 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Has anyone seen "While You Were Out" yet?
Kristen Miller (the shorter blond with the short blond hair) is tied with her hands behind her back and is cleaved gagged with a white scarf. She is knocked down and is shown unconscious on her back. She's wearing a tight body suit with nice cleavage. Best scene on She Spies I've seen |
| Boyo |
| Sunday February 23 07:41:18 2003 Mutant X |
| Episode Under the Cloak of War
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| Boyo |
| Sunday February 23 07:55:27 2003 Re: Adventure Inc FINALLY |
| > Todays episode [Echoes of the Past? First aied weekend Feb 15/16] FINALLY has her
> tied up...> its a supershort dark flashback scene but her hands are > bound in Front No gag I taped Adventure Inc. Episode Echoes of the Past on WGN yesterday and did not see any DiD. There is a scene where a bad guy is holding Karen Cliche with her hands in front but she is not bound. Did I miss anything? Do I have the wrong episode? |
| Boyo |
| Sunday February 23 08:30:00 2003 She Spies- Kristen Miller |
| Not a bad little scene at all last night on SS. Ok, the gag could have been thicker, and most definitely tighter, and some stuffing would have been a treat, but overall I'll give it a B+ simply for it being the very kissable Kristen (Sigh...) and NO damn loosie duct tape crap. |
| The Greyman |
| vincegrey@thegreyman.net |
| http://www.thegreyman.net |
| Sunday February 23 09:26:29 2003 Other SciFi stuff |
| While Pat and others gave a good description of the Do or Die scenes on Scifi yesterday, the movie right before that had some scenes, but they were not as good.
In the movie "Code Name: Phoenix", the female protagonist (a decent looking asian chick) is tied up a couple of times. In the first scene, she's tied hands in front with some futuristic wirecuffs, first while seated in a car and then while walking around the male protagonists' house. In the latter scene towards the end of the movie, she and the leading putz are tied arms behind to chairs. |
| MAV |
| Sunday February 23 09:30:05 2003 Re: Speck |
| > > > What movie is TAU ?
> > TERROR AMONG US > Thanks! That's the movie I was thinking of, but I > couldn't think of the name. The only word that kept > coming to mind was "Stranger" something, like the > Stranger Within. Ah! When movies where movies !!! cgg1 1:55:35 Terror Among Us 1981 [90] #283 Sarah Purcell (Jennifer) Pat Klous (Cathy) Kim Lankford (Vickie Stevens) Tracy Reed (Barbara) STEWARDESSES STOCKINGS PUMPS THIN SCARF GAGS BETWEEN TEETHS HANDS TIED BEHIND BACKS ANKLES TIED |
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| Rich |
| bindherupx@yahoo.com |
| http://bindherupx.net |
| Sunday February 23 10:25:58 2003 Site Updated |
| I've made a couple of changes to my web site.
In the left-side menu links, there's now a "what's new" that will log changes to the site. There is also a "special features" link which is where I'm putting content that goes outside the normal list-and-sample-pix thing. To kick off that section I've posted 32 caps from the first season of "24". |
| Gax |
| http://gagsnroses.tripod.com |
| Sunday February 23 11:26:51 2003 MESSAGE FORUMS |
| One of the reasons the Moderator gets so pissed off with people is that everyone insists on piling everything onto the Discussion pages rather than putting them in those places where they're suppose to go. Case in point, Movie/Alerts has seen no postings since Feb. 11, yet the Discussion page is crammed with comments about THE LIFE OF DAVID GAIL, yet no one has seen fit to put the entry where it properly belongs. The excuse usually used for this is that they want to make sure that everyone is aware of a certain thing so they post it where there's the most action. But that reasoning becomes a selffulfilling prophecy. If nobody posts to ANYTHING GOES, MOVIE VIDEO ALERTS, TRADING FORUM etc., people will get out of the habit of checking these sites whenever they come onto Brianspage, meaning that to alert anybody to anything you'll have to go to DISCUSSION page. The point is these other pages aren't there for their health and should be used for the pertinent posts and not just the DISCUSSION page. |
| hallbird |
| Sunday February 23 12:03:53 2003 Strange World |
| I just happened to catch the episode "Skin" last night, which contained the scene with Kristin Lehman with her wrists bound to a heavy table leg. There's a record in the DB for this scene, #6844, which means it's been in there awhile.
Was this the only scene this series produced? |
| MadFish |
| Sunday February 23 12:05:27 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > Best scene on She Spies I've seen
Thanks for the description. Can you give us some approximate scene times? Thanks! |
| MadFish |
| Sunday February 23 12:23:21 2003 Re: Speck |
| Thanks CTS, very good to know it is not another case of phony advertising hype.
I agree that with films based on true events it is important to keep telling yourself that it is a movie, that you are not somehow seeing the real persons suffering. Years ago on of the 'Cops' type shows had a segment about a robbery hostage situation. A couple of short scenes with two attractive secretary types, in heels and knee length skirts, hands tied behind their backs, running out of the building, and then being freed by the police. In a movie it would have been a great scene, but it was real life and the women were very obviously scared to death, not pleasant to see. |
| Jacot |
| Sunday February 23 13:01:28 2003 Att: Canucks |
| Did any Canadians tape either Leafs-Habs or Oil-Nucks on CBC channel last night?
If you did? Could you scan for the Da Vinci's Inquest commercial and give your opinion if a possible scene when they show the car trunk? Appears airing back to back eps starting @8:00pm tonight and like to get a decent VHS machine alert up. Thanx |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Sunday February 23 13:23:22 2003 Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| The first two scenes that I can remember that attracted my attention to my interest in bondage were Batgirl B&G by Catwoman in the "Dressed to Kill" episode of "Batman" and Deanna Lund in her long scene on "Land of the Giants." Those were both cleave-gag scenes and I have always liked cleave-gags best.
I wonder if my preference for them is because they were featured in the first scenes that I noticed. Do any of you feel that your current preferences were possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? |
| Sunday February 23 14:08:33 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > I wonder if my preference for them is because they were
> featured in the first scenes that I noticed. > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were > possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? For me, no. I watched those same scenes as a kid. While they did spark the initial passion of seeing women bound and gagged, my preferences evolved over the years as scenes progressed and changed with the times. However, those scenes, especially the ones with Batgirl, will always be special to me. |
| MadFish |
| Sunday February 23 14:10:14 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > Do any of you feel that your current >preferences were
> possibly shaped by the first scenes >that you noticed? Hard to say, knew that I liked seeing women tied up way back when I was just a wee lad in the 50s watching the firstrun airings of Superman, Sky King, etc. Then puberty hit at the same time that the Glatman pictures were all over the dectective magazines. That was when I realized it was much more than just something I liked :-) |
| Jacot |
| Sunday February 23 14:18:10 2003 Movie/Video Alert--Speck |
| Just posted CTS's description to the
Movie/Video Alert Page. |
| Jacot |
| Sunday February 23 14:48:15 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were
> possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? Not much. I started with the OTM gags in old Republic serials, but when I discovered cleave gags I immediately liked them better. Today my preference is for any type of bondage and gags that actually work. Unfortunately I am seldom rewarded. |
| Paul |
| Sunday February 23 14:56:43 2003 Re: memory muscles (Secret Service) |
| > > > > Has anyone responded to this?
> > > It's on Anubis' site this week (check back 15 hours > > > before your post). I was wondering, how much of these episodes is on tape? If I had a TV GUIDE style synopsis of the episode I might be able to figure out when it is on and solve this mystery.In the meantime, what do you think of Cyndy Preston or Carolyn Scott for that cap? TOP COPS also has some unknowns but it would be helpful if I had a title or synopsis to narrow it down. |
| togolane |
| smeduardo@netscape.net |
| Sunday February 23 15:16:03 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were
> possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? I am fairly sure that the answer is no. My absolute favourite scenes are where I see a cute actress in a TV series (or some films) and think they would look good bound and gagged but can not see it happening - then suddenly the fantasy becomes reality ! This is a bigger thrill than the type of gag although I agree with Paul that it must be effective. I was first turned on to bondage scenes by the Tara King ones in the Avengers - she was cleave gagged, OTM gagged, handgagged and had her mouth packed in various scenes as well as being chloroformed on 4 occasions. I liked all of these scenes in equal measure and 30+ years later, I still do. |
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| Gaz |
| Sunday February 23 15:38:03 2003 Re: memory muscles (Secret Service) |
| > > > > > Has anyone responded to this?
> > > > It's on Anubis' site this week (check back 15 hours > > > > > before your post). > > > In the meantime, what do you think of Cyndy > Preston or Carolyn Scott for that cap? Andrea Roth is another possibility.That actress looks like a million actresses. |
| Sunday February 23 15:45:00 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were
> possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? I would also say no. In the early 1980s when in high school, I clearly remember Heather Thomas and Charlene Tilton getting bound and gagged on their respective shows. I didn't have a VCR then but I never even thought "I can't believe I can't record this" even though I liked seeing the scenes. That changed with Heather Locklear's "Bloodsport" promo a couple years later. When that aired, I had a VCR and quickly got the idea to record the scene. A very short time later, may have even been just days, I came home from college classes and put on the TV. The station just happened to be on NBC and Nancy Frangione was bound and white tape-gagged in her sleepwear on "Another World." That got me on the case for good. |
| Brian W. |
| Sunday February 23 15:51:21 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were
> > possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? I remember when I was 4 always gravitating to the Marathon Angels episode, and trhe Dukes of Hazzard when Daisy got hers. The scene that got me taping was an episode of the 1990's version of Zorro on the Family Channel. I had just gotten a VCR for my room, and it was the scene where Patrice Chami is cleave gaged with a checkers napikin. Interesting the second episode on my firt tape was the Rin Tin Tin K-9 Cop episode that aired directly after it,. The female cop was tied to a chair with a bomb and cleaved with a necktie. Great stuff. |
| Roger Wilco |
| Sunday February 23 16:00:10 2003 Re: K-9 Cop |
| >Interesting the second episode on my
> firt tape was the Rin Tin Tin K-9 Cop episode that aired > directly after it,. The female cop was tied to a chair > with a bomb and cleaved with a necktie. Great stuff. There was another good scene on K-9 Cop featuring Lisa Jones as a uniformed cop who gets bound and gagged by the bad guys and placed under her desk in the station house. Only mid-range shots but it was still a very good scene with some good mffpping and struggling. You got some nice closeups of her before she gets grabbed. |
| Brian W. |
| Sunday February 23 16:13:48 2003 what are the qualifications for posting a scene |
| I recently saw an episode of a program called who's the boss, starring Tony Danza and Judith Light. (don't know there charecters names)
The show was about Tony being invited to an exclusive club, and Judith wanting him to contact a potential client for her. Long story short things go bad and Tony nearly loses his right to belong to this club, he just barely gets back in when Judith asks another favor to meet another potential client when at the end of the episode he inserts a golf ball into her mouth, the scene ends and holds on that image for some time. Now, does that qualify for entry into the data base, or is it not really considered a gag. |
| Sunday February 23 16:25:32 2003 Re: She Spies |
| > approximate scene times? Thanks!
The second half, ABOUT 40 minutes in |
| Boyo |
| Sunday February 23 16:32:06 2003 Re: Speck |
| > > The local Bockbuster has 'Speck' in the new releases
> > section. > > > > Anybody viewed it. > > I checked it out tonight. If you can get past the idea > that it's a true (and pretty horrific) story and reduce > it to a bunch of actresses getting tied up in a > movie...then WOW. Haven't seen anything like this since > TAU (which it pretty closely resembles). I did a search in Amazon.com and the IMBD, and couldn't find any listings for "Speck" -- is that the full name of the movie? Personally, as long as it's a dramatization and not actual footage, I'm not terribly bothered by the source. "Snuff" scenes are not my cup of tea, though... |
| C.J. Masters |
| jclord96@yahoo.com |
| http://www.eroticdistress.com |
| Sunday February 23 16:48:04 2003 1st To Die NBC 8PM est |
| Sorry if this has been covered but could there be any scenes in the 3 hour movie tonight; author James Patterson (Kiss the Girls)? Have read blurb that says killer targets brides and humiliates victims. Anyone read the book? Cast tonight includes Tracey Pollen, Megan Gallagher, Carly Pope, & Sean Young. Thanks. |
| Sunday February 23 17:07:26 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > The first two scenes that I can remember that attracted
> my attention to my interest in bondage were Batgirl B&G > by Catwoman in the "Dressed to Kill" episode of "Batman" > and Deanna Lund in her long scene on "Land of the > Giants." Those were both cleave-gag scenes and I have > always liked cleave-gags best. > I wonder if my preference for them is because they were > featured in the first scenes that I noticed. > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were > possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? I think my current preferences were shaped by the first scenes I noticed. My first scenes were from cartoons, particularly Inspector Gadget. The engergetic struggling and occasionally distinctly tight looking ropework, along with the OTM gags, and the upbeat adventure theme of it all, left an impression on me. Though I now enjoy cleave gags as well, I dislike the ones that go all the way inside the mouth and aren't easily visible. I still prefer OTM gags (especially if they look tightly tied on), and the "old-school" positions - tied to a chair, hands behind, arms pinned to sides, bound hand and foot, or even bound to two trees/poles/etc standing up. That classic stuff never lost its appeal. I'm not big on duct-tape or duct-tape gags, but can go for them if I find the way they're used aesthetically pleasing. So even though my horizons have expanded, I still prefer the styles I grew up with. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday February 23 17:17:39 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > > Do any of you feel that your current preferences were
> > possibly shaped by the first scenes that you noticed? The first scenes very likely had an impact on me. I started out with several cloth OTM gag scenes including a scene in movie or TV show in the mid 1960's, possibly involving yellow cloth, that I have not been able to identify, the Phyllis Coates / Ann Doran scene on Superman, the Dee Harford scene on Batman and several other Superman scenes. Soon thereafter, I saw some cleave gag scenes, including several of Yvonne Craig's scenes on Batman. Some time later, I was exposed to DID tape gag scenes. I like cloth OTM and cleave gags about equally. For me, OTM gags look the best most of the time (though there are exceptions), but are often not that effective. By contrast, cleave gags may not look quite as good as an OTM gag, but they are more likely to be effective. And, like many others here, I really like to see a gag that is effective or at least appears to be effective. As you can see, I see a trade-off between looks and effectiveness. Nevertheless, I tend to be a little more lenient when applying the 'appears to be effective" standard to OTM gags as opposed to cleave gags and other types of gags. Moreover, the first three of the OTM gag scenes that I mentioned will always have a special place with me. In addition, I like it when an OTM gag is combined with a cleave, a tape or a ball gag, because you get the good looks of an OTM gag and the effectiveness of the other type of gag, and such effectiveness is likely enhanced by being topped by the cleave gag. Overall, I think my early exposure to OTM gags has had an effect on my very favorable disposition towards them despite the problems with their effectiveness in many instances. As for tape gags, I like them but not quite as much as effective cloth OTM and cloth cleave gags. I would not be surprised if my earlier exposure to cloth gags is at least a part of my preference. However, like cloth OTM gags, tape gags, especially when they are comprised of a short piece of tape that only covers the damsel's mouth and the immediate surrounding area are also rather ineffective, because they rarely can hold for more than a couple of minutes. Hence, effectiveness is also an issue for me concerning tape gags. I was exposed to to ball gags, bit gags, leather gags and most other less common gags in mainstream scenes in adulthood. And, I am not that fond of them. I do not look the way they look on damsels. Do I think that my childhood exposure gag scenes involved to cloth, and later tape, gags, and not ball and bit gags, plays a role in my preference for cloth and tape gags? I would say that it most likely does so. In sum, I think my childhood exposure to scenes has affected my preferences. I suspect that I am not alone. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Sunday February 23 17:23:57 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| > So even though my horizons have expanded, I still prefer the styles I grew up with.
Nicely put, Jazz! In many ways that sums up my sentiments as well! |
| mornad |
| mornad$@yahoo.com |
| Sunday February 23 17:26:01 2003 Re: Do early scenes cause preferences? |
| this post contaisn my correct email. Sorry |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Sunday February 23 18:06:24 2003 Re: Speck |
| > I did a search in Amazon.com and the IMBD, and couldn't
> find any listings for "Speck" -- is that the full name of > the movie? The "Blockbuster" site has "SPECK" listed as available for rental, but no synopsis or reviews. Google didn't yeild any results for this movie either. Maybe it was JUST RELEASED, and I mean JUST RELEASED this eek. |
| Jacot |
| Sunday February 23 18:36:20 2003 'Dragnet' - Possibility ? |
| Possible scenes on tonite's episode of 'Dragnet':
"Well Endowed" When the beautiful and little-known actress Whitney Lynde is found brutally murdered, the detectives hope to get information from a variety of people, including a tabloid journalist (Sandra Bernhard), a wannabe porn star and a socially prominent Los Angeles family. Not the most pleasant outcome but previews showed scenes of what appeared to be the crime occurring (or a flashback). |
| Sunday February 23 18:53:05 2003 Laurel Schaefer - Falcon Crest |
| *Sigh* Wish someone could has a complete video file of this scene from Falcon crest.
http://bindherupx.net/cgg2/laurelschaefer.jpg |
| Cris |
| crisostomibarra@hotmail.com |
| Sunday February 23 18:54:22 2003 Re: Speck |
| > > I checked it out tonight. If you can get past the idea that it's a true (and pretty horrific) story and reduce it to a bunch of actresses getting tied up in a
movie...then WOW. Haven't seen anything like this since TAU (which it pretty closely resembles). > > Personally, as long as it's a dramatization and not > actual footage, I'm not terribly bothered by the source. > "Snuff" scenes are not my cup of tea, though... To me, anyway, there's not a whole lot of difference between scenes in movies based on real life or not. It's all just dramatization and shouldn't really offend anyone who enjoys just watching the scenes. I myself will be looking forward to watching the bondage shots and will no doubt stop enjoying them when they turn ugly, like any normal bondage enthusiast would. I'm sure that TAU could be "based" on THOUSANDS of home invasion/rapes over the last several decades but that doesn't seem to bother anyone, so I don't think this movie should either. Like "Naked Massacre" (another movie, loosely based on Speck's murders) I LOVED the bondage shots, hated the rest of it. No doubt I will feel the same way about "The Life of David Gale" too. |
| John Quincannon |
| johnquincannon@hotmail.com |
| Sunday February 23 19:03:44 2003 RE:Preferences |
| The original question was if early scenes affected your preferences.
My only real preference is plausibility. and that was pretty well established by the time I hit puberty. Since the material shown on television in the early 50s was all pretty plausible. The actual bondage material was pretty much always something very common and readily available, rope, cloth strips, scarves, tape. The gags were usually cloth cleaves or OTMs, with the occasional old style wide adhesive tape. Seems like a lot of women used to keep spools of that old Johnson & Johnson two inch wide tape on the bedside table back in the 50s :-) The DIDS were generally of two types: 1. female reporters, or, girlfriends/seretaries/wives of cops/government agents/reporters, 2. female robbery/kidnap victims [often with a spool or two of tape on the bedside table] Since all these still seem very plausible to me [except for women now keeping rolls of duct tape on their bedside tables], I would have to say that the early scenes did shape my preferences. If it is plausible for the situation, then it is well on the way to being a good scene. A picture labeled 'Secretaries' showing a couple of attractive women tied and gagged with duct tape in a messed up office is plausible, even if it does have a very noticeable Harmony Logo on it. A professional rigger saying "I hired two playmates and introduced them to handcuffs and ballgags," is plausible because that is what both the rigger and the models do [stage and pose] for a living. But don't show me a picture of Darla Crane and Ashley Renee in leather strap harnesses, chains, platform heels, and ballgags, with a Fetish Heaven logo on it, and tell me it is one you took of your mom and grandmother twenty years ago. |
| Jacot |
| Sunday February 23 19:14:20 2003 Database Posting Suggestion for Soaps |
| The posters and to the database and the database editors do a great job. It is a truly tremedous and amazing resource! I have an idea concerning the posting soap opera scenes that would make the database even better. It would be great if the description included the appriximate year or even 2 or 3 year period in which the scene occurred. As we know soaps are not broken down into episodes and rarely repeat. Hence, knowing the at least the apprximate year or period in which they aired would be very helpful in trying to locate the scene. Thanks guys! |
| mornad |
| mornad |
| Sunday February 23 19:56:34 2003 Not quite on topic, tragically |
| Sports Ilustrated's new swimsuit edition has model Sarah O'hare wrapping herself in some ropes on a boat; unfortunately, they aren't secured by knots or anything.
View the picture on line at: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2003_swimsuit/gallery/sarah/0.html Weirdly enough, another one of her photos, only on line (the one with a blue background) also features her getting chummy with some ropes (definitely view the full image if you're into legs). One can only wonder where the photographer (or model?) was going with this before publicists and/or editors intervened. |
| ss |
| Sunday February 23 21:53:53 2003 Third Watch |
| commercials for tomorrow's Third Watch showed a cute lady cop being dragged off. the show is about some psycho who is targeting cops. since it looks like he was killing the others, why would he not just kill the lady cop? could it be that he is going to tie her up.... |
| Greg T. |
| Sunday February 23 21:58:05 2003 Re: She Spies- Kristen Miller |
| > Not a bad little scene at all last night on SS. Ok, the
> gag could have been thicker, and most definitely tighter, > and some stuffing would have been a treat, but overall > I'll give it a B+ simply for it being the very kissable > Kristen (Sigh...) and NO damn loosie duct tape crap. Anyone have an episode title or a plot description (like what might be found in the TV Guide)? The episode we got in these parts of She Spies was the one with the kind of bratty young woman kidnapped, and Natasha H. ends up kicking a wall in a closet down & finds the girl tied to a chair & gagged. Leter all 3 of the lead actresses end up tied to chairs (no gags). Obviously the episode with Kristen Miller tied & gagged didn't air in my area, and I"d like to see if I can zero in on it for next week (or whenever the "Kristen" episode airs). |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Sunday February 23 22:01:36 2003 Re: She Spies- Kristen Miller |
| > Anyone have an episode title or a plot description (like
> what might be found in the TV Guide)? Oops! Nevermind about the episode title...I just read the Alerts entry ("While You Were Out"). However, the TV GUide doesn't give title names in their synopsis, so can anyone give me a jist of what the episode is about so I can try & find it in next week's TV Guide? thanks,. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Sunday February 23 22:21:12 2003 Re: Movie/Video Alert--Speck |
| > Just posted CTS's description to the
> Movie/Video Alert Page. Thanks, Jacot. Meant to do that myself, but Futurama was about to start... First "Bundy", then "Dahmer", now "Speck". Nice to see that the direct-to-video serial killer biopic makers aren't exactly agonizing over what to title their opuses. Now if we can just get someone moving on "Glatman"... Because can there every really be enough movies based on history's bondage-fixated psychos? |
| Sunday February 23 22:21:24 2003 Re: Movie/Video Alert--Speck |
| > Just posted CTS's description to the
> Movie/Video Alert Page. Thanks, Jacot. Meant to do that myself, but Futurama was about to start... First "Bundy", then "Dahmer", now "Speck". Nice to see that the direct-to-video serial killer biopic makers aren't exactly agonizing over what to title their opuses. Now if we can just get someone moving on "Glatman"... Because can there every really be enough movies based on history's bondage-fixated psychos? |
| Sunday February 23 22:24:36 2003 Re: Movie/Video Alert--Speck |
| Left out my initials, AND doubleposted. D'oh.
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| CTS |
| Sunday February 23 22:36:13 2003 Life of David Gale details: MAJOR SPOILERS |
| Hey, everyone. Having seen Life of David Gale over the weekend, I wanted to provide everyone info on the scenes.
However, I don't want to put them in the Scene Database of Movie/Video alerts yet, because to give a proper assessment of what occurs in the Laura Linney scenes, I really have to provide some major spoilers. So here's the details on the four scenes, with NUMEROUS KEY SPOILERS. So don't read on if you don't want to know these details. From those who do read on, I'd love some feedback about how much of this should be included in the Scene Database and Movie Alert entries. Perhaps the Moderator could also be so kind as to suggest. (Sorry this message is a little long, Mod.) Okay, here we go, once again, with SPOILERS AHEAD: Scene 1 occurs about 65 minutes (1:05) into the movie, lasts a couple of minutes. This is the very disturbing one. You see a videotaped image of a Laura Linney's character, nude on her stomach on a kitchen floor. Her hands are handcuffed behind her; she's gagged with duct tape and suffocating from a plastic bag sealed over her head. Her body is bruised, but we later learn that's not from any violent act--we later learn she had lieukemia. You see her stop breathing. You can't see her face well. No real closeups of her face, and the bag, while translucent, obscures her face pretty well. Scene 2 occurs about 30 minutes later, approx. 95 minutes (1:35) into the movie. This is with Kate Winslet, playing a reporter, re-creating the death as part of her investigation. Kate's character is fully clothed, I believe wearing jeans and a sweater or something like that. Like the Madchen Amick scene in "Hangman," she tapes her mouth with duct tape, then (far TOO quickly) ties a bag over her head, then handcuffs herself. Her reporting partner is standing by to tear away the bag in a couple of minutes. Some good closeups of Kate's face; this bag seems a little easier to see through than the one Linney's character used. Pretty brief scene in "film time;" Kate starts struggling and mmmmmphing, and her buddy tears off the bag. Good closeup of her gagged face for a second or two after the bag comes off. When she does, she reveals (BIG SPOILER) that Linney's character acutally killed herself. This is borne out in... Scene 3, which is less than 10 minutes later. We get to see what led up to the death of Linney's character. She did commit suicide. We see an earlier portion of the videotape, in which she tapes her own mouth and then puts the bag on. Scene ends quickly from there. Problem is, this all happens super-fast, and the image is very fuzzy. So even though we see her taped mouth sans bag, and though the (still-creepy) scene is slightly less disturbing because she actually isn't the victim of a violent act, there's not a lot to take from it. At the very end of the film is a sort-of Scene 4, which reveals one more revelation that isn't pertinent here, so I won't note it. But you do see the some more of the videotape with the body of Linney's character still handcuffed and bagged. Long story short: The Winslet scene is short but pretty good. The Linney scenes are short and not very good, but at least the context is a little less nasty than they would appear at first glance. Again, that's the whole story. Love to hear what info everyone thinks we should include in the proper areas. |
| Hibiscus |
| Sunday February 23 22:43:43 2003 Re: 1st To Die NBC 8PM est |
| Was there anything in this movie? |
| Sunday February 23 22:58:09 2003 Re: memory muscles (Secret Service) |
| > Has anyone responded to this? If not, I have this scene
> and will make the caps. If someone has already > volunteered, please let me know because it takes me a few > extra steps to make caps since I don't have a video > capture card in my PC. I just posted a few caps to a Geocities site featuring the two Secret Service scenes in question: the original "barefoot" scene mentioned, and the second scene featuring the unknown actress sporting the wide white tape gag! A few of the image links don't work, I know, and the images are much smaller than I intended .... I blame Geocities. But before I was experiencing "uploading" issues, my caps weren't the sharpest anyway. Regardless, I hope they help whoever was looking for some visuals. The address is: http://www.geocities.com/traderdave42/ I am not brave enough to attempt HTML on this page. Enjoy the caps! |
| Dave |
| TraderDave42@aol.com |
| www.geocities.com/traderdave42/index.html |
| Sunday February 23 23:02:23 2003 Re: memory muscles (Secret Service) |
| My "Homepage" address in my last post didn't work. It is the correct address, but I forgot to add the "http://".
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| Dave |
| http://www.geocities.com/traderdave42/index.html |
| Sunday February 23 23:08:48 2003 Re: She Spies- Kristen Miller |
| > > Anyone have an episode title or a plot description
> (like > > what might be found in the TV Guide)? > Secretaries are killing chief executives. |
| ss |
| Sunday February 23 23:09:10 2003 DEAD ZONE |
| Promos show a great scene if you're into men in bondage. Were there any scenes involving the fair sex? It's just now starting to repeat in my area. Wanting to know if it's worth watching or taping? |
| hallbird |
| Sunday February 23 23:11:40 2003 Re: She Spies- Kristen Miller |
|
>Obviously the episode with > Kristen Miller tied & gagged didn't air in my area, and > I"d like to see if I can zero in on it for next week (or > whenever the "Kristen" episode airs). > I'm afraid you may be SOL for the near future, JP ... "Daddy's Girl", the ep you've described, airs next week in my area, so it appears you're ahead of rather than behind the curve. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Sunday February 23 23:35:10 2003 Re: memory muscles (Secret Service) |
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> I am not brave enough to attempt HTML on this page. > Enjoy the caps! HTML is no longer allowed on this page, so it's a moot point. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday February 23 23:41:49 2003 Re: 1st To Die NBC 8PM est |
| > Was there anything in this movie?
No. |
| Brian R |
| Sunday February 23 23:44:35 2003 Re: Life of David Gale details: MAJOR SPOILERS |
| > Hey, everyone. Having seen Life of David Gale over the
> weekend, I wanted to provide everyone info on the > scenes. Thanks for the info. It took Laura Linney a long time to get gagged and it had to be a disturbing scene. Now why didn't she have a B&G scene when she was younger in her earlier films especially when she's dressed up in business suits or formal dresses. She could've had a scene in Congo at least. Oh, well... |
| Cris |
| crisostomoibarra@hotmail.com |
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