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| Monday January 06 01:21:31 2003 Re: I Want My Mummy! |
| > Unless you like unmoving, mummy-wrapped figures,
> you're kinda out of it. Have to agree... The Perils of Penelope Pitstop did a much better job of mummifying its lead character. Pity the Charmed people couldn't have taken a cue from that series! |
| Mazer Rackham |
| mazer@deltanet.com |
| Monday January 06 01:51:07 2003 Re: Charmed |
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> When is this show going to produce? It already did. The one Alyssa Milano gag scene from the first season. That's all this show will ever produce. (Shannen Doherty's scene sucked, so I don't even count that). As I've said before, the stars run this show. Milano and Combs are listed as producers in the opening credits. Better off focusing attention elsewhere. |
| Brian W. |
| Monday January 06 02:00:37 2003 Re: Charmed |
| > I did not see the first 15 minutes (where evidently
> ........ > > When is this show going to produce? I still give the show a lot of hope, this is for a number of valid, documented reasons. 1. We have already seen an increase in the quantity/quality of the bondage when a charicter gets the treatment (Hands tied, then a tape gag, then a chair/cleve/blindfold) true this was during the first seasons, but stay with me.... 2.The producers are obviously targeting a more adult, and male oriented audience now, they probably figure they have all the teens and female viewers they are going to get and now,if you notice, they are putting out a lot of publicity with commercials and mag-ads that show the girls less clothed, more cleveage (a plus any way you look at it) this would indicate that they expect to start showing more adult-oriented plots, and if men are watching, this usually includes the damsel in distress senerio,because it is an oft used male fantacy style attention grabber. 3. the producer of the show, I believe, is Ian spelling. he has a history of having "Bondage-spurts".typically each "spurt" getting progressivly more "full treatment" for longer periods. Example- TJ hooker, several seasons of nada then Bamo...heather locklear, Dynasty, same thing but with both leading ladies, and of course Melrose Place...no further description needed. So Im guessing as long as Spelling is alive and kicking, we will find our plunky little witches gettin into a series of ropes and gags before long and if he holds true to form, that will probably include all three female leads. Heck he would have probably B&G Julie from love boat if she could have stayed away from the cocaine. (instead "DOC" got the treatment...ugggh) Good things come to those that wait....my bet... some time in the next 6 episodes Cleve |
| Cleve |
| Monday January 06 02:08:41 2003 Wasted Opportunity on Andy Richter Tonight! |
| Andy Richter Controls the Universe is one of the few sitcoms I believe has the potential to produce a scene. The show is built around showing all the crazy scenarios he imagines in his head. I was just thinking the other day, how much I'd like to see his co-stars Paget Brewster and Irene Molloy b&g. Both women are very cute.
Anyway, in tonight's episode, Conan O'Brien guest-starred as a crazy billionaire. To impress his friends, Andy talks Conan into flying he and his friends to Rio. Unfortunately, Andy soon realizes Conan is nuts and might flip out on he and his friends. During the flight, Andy nervously remarks to Conan, "So, I noticed the only thing in your carry-on luggage was duct-tape.". Conan replies, "Yes, there's going to be a duct-tape wedding." How perfect a setup is that for imagining his friends bound and gagged with duct tape?? In the end the only who gets bound with the duct tape is Andy Richter, and I mean he was covered in it! Arrrghh!!! |
| MadFish |
| Monday January 06 02:16:14 2003 Pacific Blue, stuff gag |
| >Pacific Blue - "Overkill"
I watched the entire episode, but there is no scene where Monica is bound. Perhaps earlier episode: "Users". >Stuff Gag - Police - Humiliation. When a North Korean Terrorist caught after bombing South Korean airplane, she was gagged. Also from a REAL story about Japanese prisoner camp in China (before WW II): several male and female prisoners try to escape, but failed. They are chained and gagged with rock before being shot. |
| asian |
| Monday January 06 02:33:28 2003 Re: Charmed |
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> > When is this show going to produce? I thought this season's opener with the one gal chained to the grate over the water (and then in the water) was pretty darned good. I also have high hopes for the series. They're very deliberately making the show sexier, and it will be very interesting to see if they handle any upcoming DiD scenarios in a way that maximizes sexiness. Given that the female leads are producers and the show IS moving in a sexy direction, good DiD scenes just might be in the works. When women decide to do sexy bondage scenes, they tend to do 'em pretty darned well. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 06 03:25:09 2003 Re: Unknown Angeles episode |
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Much thanks to you and the others who helped identify this episode. |
| Anubis |
| Monday January 06 11:29:07 2003 Re: Charmed |
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> > When is this show going to produce? > When is ALIAS going to produce?? |
| Monday January 06 11:58:29 2003 Re: Pacific Blue, stuff gag |
| > >Stuff Gag - Police - Humiliation.
> When a North Korean Terrorist caught after bombing South > Korean airplane, she was gagged. > I remember this story. It was almost 20 years ago. There was a picture in the paper of the woman being escorted off the plane by two cops. She was handcuffed and her mouth was taped. The caption read they kept her mouth "bandaged" to prevent her trying to commit suicide as her co-hort had done. |
| MadFish |
| Monday January 06 12:00:27 2003 Re: TV Promos |
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> Would it be fair to say, stuff gags account for about > half of all DiD gags? A third? A quarter? They seemed to > account for over half the gags on the Chinse DiD site. Based on what I've seen I'd say 1/3 or less. > > Also, do you think the site owner would be pleased or > dismayed if I gave out his URL in my Bondage Banter > section? I'm not inclined to, for fear of getting him in > trouble with the Chinese authorities, but if you think it > would be OK, I'll post it. Well I can't speak for him but I've never heard of a guy creating a site so he could try and keep it a secret. I know there are much stricter rules for Chinese servers putting up adult and copywrited materials but that just creates a problem for him to find a host. He recently changed host because of his sites content so I assume he's found a host that is ok with it. In any case if there woud be a problem with authorities he is at much greater risk from asian language sites then with yours. > > Interesting, a gag used purely as humiliation by the > authorities. Is this a commonplace thing in China? In period piece movies it is. Ancient asian cultures didn't respect womens rights very much.They didn't like them to be out spoken or defiant especialy to authority figures. The recent Sex and Zen 3 update to my site was a good example. A man and women get brought before a court for adultery.They are both bound in detailed rope work. The woman mocks the court and gets tightly cleave gagged. Then her chest is exposed and she is tortured to death by having her niples pulled off by two guys wielding huge tongs or pliers. This movie is an obvious exagerated comedy but it's poking fun at true historical practices. > and all > four of them were stuff gagged. Kinda weird, since they > seemd to be alone. But it was very much the exception to > the rule. > There will always be exceptions to the rule. In Beauty Investigator (also capped on my site) an undercover cop posing as a night club "hostess" goes into the back room with a guy. He goes in the bathroom to change and comes out wearing a strange outfit and holding up a whip and a pair of hand cuffs. She screams and tries to run but ends up cuffed and stuffed. An assasin breaks in through a window and begins fighting with the guy then Moon Lee, the bound girls partner, kicks in the door and fights with the assasin.The bound girl is a cop and souldn't be submisive or frozen in this situation but remains stuff gagged through out the scene. I'm sure there are many other scenes that don't fit my scenario but they are just a small percentage of the stuff gag scenes. I'd like to add that a lot of fetishists are turned on more by submissiveness than by force. Keeping a stuff gag in your mouth in the presence of your captor with out acting hysterical or frozen gives the impression of submission. Some stuff gags both here and in asia are probably used because that was the feeling someone wanted to create. > In his effort to > > show you this kind of rope work in mass media he has > > chosen to cap the type of scenes where stuf gags do get > > used alot for the reason given above. > > So, stuff gags mostly show up in scenes where the cops or > the military capture a damsel -- the equivalent of our > cuff scenes. Is this a commonplace practice with > captives? Stuff gags get used by criminals in some stories too but mostly in humiliating ways as well or as a quickly aplied gag durring an abduction. This type of rope work appears alot in police and military prisoner scenes from period films. Most modern setting stories use cuffs. I don't think that authorities ae depicted humilating thier prisoners in modern stories to much. |
| Mark C |
| Monday January 06 14:46:09 2003 CYBER-TRACKER (1994) |
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I posted an alert for this, airing at 4AM Tuesday on TNT. Svelte DB entry ... can anyone fill it out, especially an approximate scene time? Thanks in advance. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Monday January 06 15:30:11 2003 Re: Lost World and Tarantino |
| > Additionally, I seem to recall a post on this site not
> TOO far back from someone who had a glance at the > original script, which detailed a scene in which Uma's > character ("the Bride") was tied AND GAGGED in the back > of a pickup truck at some point in the movie. You are correct. You can read the script at: http://come.to/killbill FYI you can also check out other movie and t.v. scripts at: http://www.script-o-rama.com/ |
| Cohen |
| Monday January 06 17:38:56 2003 LUCY LIU |
| Was there or was there not a Lucy Liu scene in Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever? I remember a picture that was posted here a while back which seemed to suggest so. |
| anonymous |
| Monday January 06 17:45:00 2003 Re: TV Promos |
| > Well I can't speak for him but I've never heard of a guy
> creating a site so he could try and keep it a secret. I > know there are much stricter rules for Chinese servers > putting up adult and copywrited materials but that just > creates a problem for him to find a host. He recently > changed host because of his sites content so I assume > he's found a host that is ok with it. In any case if > there woud be a problem with authorities he is at much > greater risk from asian language sites then with yours. > The host is Japanese, I believe. A ".jp" in the site address means "Japan", as "jp" is the Country Code for Japan. In fact, that's the reason why the site was originally mistaken for a Japanese site! |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday January 06 18:33:01 2003 First damsel to be tied to the tracks |
| I always wondered about this and I don't know why I never asked you guys.
Does anyone know what was the first 'damsel tied to the tracks' scene in movies or television? I'd like to know what scene started this beloved cliche. |
| GagAllWomen |
| Monday January 06 20:11:17 2003 West Coast and others alert |
| Right now on Fear Factor they are doing a stunt that involves having a woman in a bikini suspended upside down beneath a helicopter via ankle cuffs. She has to sort through keys and figure out which ones unlock the cuffs.
They just did the first female contestant, with the commercial break currently in progress over the second female contestant's stunt. Next up is the third contestant, the one with the big breasts. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 06 20:57:14 2003 Previews of Fear Factor |
| Show a blonde in a bikini floating in a swimming pool, chained by the waist, her legs spread wide. Damn, it's like they've caught on to something or something. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 06 21:12:45 2003 'Nother Fear Factor promo |
| For the upcoming show showed women having to carry (dead or unconscious) rats in their mouths from a table and toss 'em in a bucket without using their hands. I was never able to get a clear shot of anyubody's wrists, but one image n particular showed what looked like it might be the end of a plasticuff hanging off the side of her wrist. And the way they moved it looked like their arms were secured rather than just clasped behind the back. I can't say for certain, but I think it more rather than less likely that they're bound. And they're self-gagging themselves with rats, just as Xena did! |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 06 22:25:08 2003 Site re-opened |
| Season's Greetings to one and all.
Want to let ppl know that I have re-opened my site, which can be found at the link below. |
| Emperor |
| http://people.mail2me.com.au/~ehatzvi/main.html |
| Monday January 06 22:33:56 2003 Lame scene in She Spies |
| Late last night, I saw the scene from the She Spies episode Three Women and a Baby. IMO, the scene is a case study in Dumb Assed Writers Syndrome (DAWS) and Dumb Assed Directors Syndrome (DADS). Normally, I really like dual and multi-damsel full treatment scenes. But this scene is, without a doubt, one of the lamest dual damsel scenes ever!
In the episode one of the She Spies gals (Natasha Henstridge) and another woman (Sybil Temchen) are captured by the bad guys. First, Henstridge and Temchen are briefly shown tied to chairs and ungagged. Next, Henstidges two cohorts are shown outside the office where Henstridges and Temchen are being held trying to get into the office. This includes some very lame dialogue and a throughly rediculous scene showing Henstrige's cohorts barge into the office. Next, you see very brief shot of Henstige gagged with a really thin and unimpressive white cloth cleave gag, and she is quickly ungagged and released. You never really see Temchen gagged becuase her back is to the cameras. Temchen is also quickly released. Needless to say there were no close ups, and no struggling or no mmmphing. All I can say is a big Boo Hoo! Why in the world would the writers and director bother to have two tied and gagged damsels if they were only going to show a face shot of one of them! What the hell were these guys thinking! This could have been a terrific scene. Instead the scene was simply terrible. If the damsel scene wasn't bad enough, the episode managed to include a B&G'd putz scene shorty after the lame dual damsel scene. Another big Boo Hoo! No wonder this show is in trouble. There ought to be a law: 1) Face shots of all B&G'd damsels must be shown, and 2) No putz may be shown unless face shots of all damsels are shown. I am convinced that just about any poster on this page (or almost any other forum) could have wriiten a more interesing and more dramatic episode than this particular episode of She Spies. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Monday January 06 22:51:39 2003 Digitally gagged |
| Did anyone see last nights High School Reunion on UPN?
In the opening there was a shot from a future episode in which a young woman utters an expletive which is bleeped out.As this happens her mouth is blurred digitally making it like a tape gag-or 1 of those "girl w/no mouth" things we talked about a while ago.It definately thrilled this gag fan.I'll check it out next week to see if they play it again. |
| Md |
| Monday January 06 22:58:49 2003 West Coat Alert for CSI Miami |
| About two minutes ago (around the 55' mark) there was a flashback showing a bound and gagged damsel. The damsel meets a bad end earlier, as you might expect from a forensics show, but the flashback shows her alive. Some mmphing. It looks like a very wide tape gag. Wrista re also taped, but sadly, in front. |
| Pat Powers |
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