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| Monday January 13 00:08:57 2003 Reminder |
| Do feed the trolls. When you see a stupid message posted here, just ignore it until I have a chance to delete it. Otherwise you just make more work for me.
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| The Moderator |
| Monday January 13 00:11:14 2003 Re: Handgag SG-1 |
| >Thanks for the info about the possible SG-1 episode in
>which Major Sam will (dare we hope?) be B&G'd. MacGyver likes to handgag women doesn't he? Even in his own series Mac has handgagged, I think, 3 guest actresses. |
| Cris |
| crisostomoibarra@hotmail.com |
| Monday January 13 00:17:22 2003 Re: Darkness |
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> Release Date Note: (7/31/02) This was originally > scheduled for a wide theatrical release on August 2nd, > 2002, and was then pushed back several months to February 7th, 2003. The release date info was much appreciated, but I'm still hoping the person who saw the movie and made the db post will reappear and give some info on the gag scene. |
| Gags Galore |
| Monday January 13 00:47:36 2003 WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| I'm now convinced that the writers of these new shows are gay. How else can you explane the lack of did scenes in shows with gorgus actresses. Take the so]how "Adventure Inc". Twice, I say TWICE in this show the lead male putz got bound and gagged, yet the beutiful female co-star, with brunette hair and nice boobs has yet to get a scene. Another show pissing me off is Fastlane. If either Tiffany Thiessen, or next weeks co-star, the equally if not more delectibel Jamie Pressley do not go through the b/g paces, then thier is definitly somezing wrong with the writers. Any strait normal man would once in a while like to see the female star get the treatment. Don't the producers/writers understand dis? |
| FUGZARRO |
| Monday January 13 00:59:13 2003 Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| > I'm now convinced that the writers of these new shows are
> gay. How else can you explane the lack of did scenes in > shows with gorgus actresses. Take the so]how "Adventure > Inc". Twice, I say TWICE in this show the lead male putz > got bound and gagged, yet the beutiful female co-star, > with brunette hair and nice boobs has yet to get a scene. > Another show pissing me off is Fastlane. If either > Tiffany Thiessen, or next weeks co-star, the equally if > not more delectibel Jamie Pressley do not go through the > b/g paces, then thier is definitly somezing wrong with > the writers. Any strait normal man would once in a while > like to see the female star get the treatment. Don't the > producers/writers understand dis? I hear you man. Always liked the scene with my co-host Kelly Ripa on All My Children about 12 years ago or so where she was bound and gagged with the tight blue cleave-gag. This storyline went on for days. If I was working on thst set or was the prop guy who was lucky enough to tie her up, I would have gotten such a boner, I would have had to leave the studio. I can imagine the tie-up games she plays with her husband. Oh what a lucky man. Hope the writers of "DAYS of OUR LIVES" have the good sence to but the too cute Jennifer in a periluos bound and gagged scene, this is long overdue. |
| REGIS PHILBIN |
| Monday January 13 01:14:10 2003 Anyone check this out? |
| Vanilla Sky from cheathappens.com:
Hidden Frames (POSSIBLE SPOILER) Go to the scene at the end of the movie when Tom's character jumps off the building. As he is falling, his life starts flashing before him. At this point you have to slow the play down so you can view the images frame by frame. Near the end of the flashback there are several very strange single frame pictures that are impossible to see at normal speed. One is of Tom's character holding a gun (which never happens in the movie) and another is his plastic surgeon in the film giving the camera the finger. Another is of Penelope Cruz's character tied up on the bed, which is strange becuase in the movie its Cameron Diaz's character that gets tied up. There are several others. |
| tripper |
| Monday January 13 02:33:29 2003 Sunday wrapup |
| Just fast-forwarded through some stuff from Sunday. Here's a rundown:
The bad: Nothing on "Charmed" (what a shock). Despite a double for Phoebe, Cole held her hostage in his apartment for the episode with no restraints. Lovely. Nothing close on "For the People." Knew that was a waste of time. The good: Jennifer Garner was tied up on "Alias" in what looked to be a great scene. She's was running down an alley with her boyfriend when they are captured, ordered on the ground and told to put their hands up. Kick-specialist Garner then gives it up with no fighting back! Wearing a sexy white sweater and tight tan pants, her hands are tied behind her back. But wait, the boyfriend has a knife, cuts one bad guy, grabs his gun and kills the second bad guy. The camera then cuts to Garner's tied hands behind her back in an isolation shot before she's freed. So close but not a bad scene. "She Spies" starts new episodes next week, and the co-star blonde (Kristen) is up to something. There may be a double, but Natasha Henstridge is shown sitting on a chair with a guy behind her with a gun, saying "you won't get away with this" or something to that effect. Looks like she might be tied up to the arms of the chair. She's wearing the usual black outfit with her hair down. |
| Brian W. |
| Monday January 13 04:44:31 2003 From the Fangoria Website |
| The remakes keep on comin’. Fango has learned that THE TOOLBOX MURDERS will be updated this year by the original's producer, Tony Didio. “The original TOOLBOX MURDERS came out around the same time as TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, and when I saw that being remade, I figured it was time to do TOOLBOX over again too,” Didio says. “We’re just putting it together now and expect to begin shooting in Canada this fall, most likely Vancouver. We plan on hiring mostly Canadian talent.” |
| Anubis |
| http://www.fangoria.com |
| Monday January 13 04:52:06 2003 Re: "TCM 2003" |
| > BUT....if you look at the pic at the link of
> Jessica.....is it just wishful thinking, or what appears > to be around her left wrist? You're absolutely right. And if you look at her left arm, you can see ropemarks. They are most noticable right above her elbow and on her wrist. The TCM flicks have a pretty decent rep for delivering something in all of their incarnations. It seems the odd numbered ones delived the best goods, while the even numbered ones were mediocre at best. This is what, the fifth? Look at her outfit too. I am looking forward to this film for so many reasons. |
| Anubis |
| http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2003/newline/texaschainsawmassacre/txchain-2.html |
| Monday January 13 11:13:23 2003 Kangaroo Jack |
| > Estella Warren is bound hands behind back in Kangaroo
> Jack. > Unknown fem is tape gagged + tied to chair hands behind > back. She's a plus sized older gal, but people from this > site dont seem to care . . . Estella is pretty cute but Jerry O'Connell also stars in the film - meaning that the putz factor is high. |
| Monday January 13 11:42:01 2003 Re: Virginie Ledoyen |
| <the DB has three entries for Ms.Ledoyen,
She also has a scene in Late August, Early September. Her character has allowed her boyfriend to tie her up the night before during sex. She wakes up on the floor nude, bound hand and foot. This could have been a great scene if the camera had shown just a little bit more. It was especially frustrating for me because she is barefoot and she complains to her boyfriend, while she is untying her feet, that he tied her too tight but the camera never shows her feet while they are bound. She is not gagged either. |
| J Par |
| Monday January 13 12:32:14 2003 Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| > I'm now convinced that the writers of these new shows are
> gay. How else can you explane the lack of did scenes in > shows with gorgus actresses. Take the so]how "Adventure > Inc". Twice, I say TWICE in this show the lead male putz > got bound and gagged, yet the beutiful female co-star, > with brunette hair and nice boobs has yet to get a scene. > Another show pissing me off is Fastlane. If either > Tiffany Thiessen, or next weeks co-star, the equally if > not more delectibel Jamie Pressley do not go through the > b/g paces, then thier is definitly somezing wrong with > the writers. Any strait normal man would once in a while > like to see the female star get the treatment. Don't the > producers/writers understand dis? I don't think the lack of bondage means the shows' producers/writers are necessarily homosexual. They simply do not share our fetish! Actually,they would probably consider us a bit odd and curious for liking bondage! Its a strange world out there,isn't it? |
| Monday January 13 12:39:39 2003 Mahjong |
| Mahjong was made in Taiwan and it's in Mandarin. Amazon does not have it. Does anyone know how to purchase films made in Taiwan and Hong Kong?
Mahjong appears to be a decent movie. The lead actor Chen Chang played Lo Dark Cloud in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. |
| J Par |
| Monday January 13 13:03:08 2003 Re: Stargate |
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> It's still an open issue whether this is a "new" episode > or not. I watch *Stargate SG-1*, so I volunteer to keep > an eye on things. You'd think if there was a Season 5 or > earlier episode with Major Sam B&G'd (other than > "Emancipation" from Season 1) we would have heard about it. Hi There, Yes.This is the issue with the second pic.I hear what you say , particularly about looking into the camera, but the "CultTimes" pic definitely indicates that these are scene shots.You never know of course, they may have reverted to the old time movie practice of shooting stills while shooting actual scenes....? Are these not from the forthcoming series? The former zine has, as I recall, appended jokey captions to stills from various progs in the past..... Best Wishes, |
| Kenny |
| kenneth962@hotmail.com |
| Monday January 13 13:44:24 2003 Re: Mahjong |
| > Mahjong was made in Taiwan and it's in Mandarin. Amazon
> does not have it. Does anyone know how to purchase > films made in Taiwan and Hong Kong? > Don't know if you want to take this route, but there's a listing for a U.S. VCD version of Mahjong on EBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&category=4179&item=3306046773 |
| MadFish |
| Monday January 13 14:09:33 2003 Re: Sunday wrapup |
| > Just fast-forwarded through some stuff from Sunday.
> Here's a rundown: > > The bad: > > Nothing on "Charmed" (what a shock). Despite a double for > Phoebe, Cole held her hostage in his apartment for the > episode with no restraints. Lovely. > > Nothing close on "For the People." Knew that was a waste > of time. > > The good: > > Jennifer Garner was tied up on "Alias" in what looked to > be a great scene. She's was running down an alley with > her boyfriend when they are captured, ordered on the > ground and told to put their hands up. Kick-specialist > Garner then gives it up with no fighting back! > > Wearing a sexy white sweater and tight tan pants, her > hands are tied behind her back. But wait, the boyfriend > has a knife, cuts one bad guy, grabs his gun and kills > the second bad guy. The camera then cuts to Garner's tied > hands behind her back in an isolation shot before she's > freed. So close but not a bad scene. > > "She Spies" starts new episodes next week, and the > co-star blonde (Kristen) is up to something. There may be > a double, but Natasha Henstridge is shown sitting on a > chair with a guy behind her with a gun, saying "you won't > get away with this" or something to that effect. Looks > like she might be tied up to the arms of the chair. She's > wearing the usual black outfit with her hair down. There was an episode of "Once a Thief" on Sunday night with a great bondage scene. An attractive female guest star with dirty blonde or light brown hair was bound and gagged and carried over the shoulder by a really homely, sharp-featured guy, who was about to throw her into an incinerator. Her hands were tied behind her back and she was gagged with a red cloth tied over her mouth. I surmise that John Woo is a very successful director because he knows exactly what guys want to see, namely attractive women bound and gagged. |
| Hadji |
| Monday January 13 15:45:39 2003 Re: Sunday wrapup |
| > I surmise that John Woo is a very successful director
> because he knows exactly what guys want to see, namely attractive women bound and gagged. You surmise incorrectly. He is not a bondage flick director. He is successful because his films make money...they do this by appealing to a wide audience with varied tastes. |
| CCDI |
| Monday January 13 15:50:16 2003 Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| > Take the so]how "Adventure
> Inc". Twice, I say TWICE in this show the lead male putz > got bound and gagged, yet the beutiful female co-star, > with brunette hair and nice boobs has yet to get a scene. I cannot speak as to the sexual orientation of the guys who write Adventure Inc. I watched it a couple of times and lost all interest in it, and also kinda wrote it off as likely to produce scenes. There wasn't any gay vibe that I got from it, just a sense that the show was too wimpy to produce a scene. > Any strait normal man would once in a while > like to see the female star get the treatment. Don't the > producers/writers understand dis? This crew has to have focus groups to know what normal people like. That should tell you something. And frankly, I have my doubts about their focus groups. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 13 16:46:24 2003 Re: Chuck's Chicks |
| > I must say, this show produced one of my favorite, if
> unconvincing, scenes, in the ep; "Marathon Angels". > > And I think Cheryl Ladd remains very sexy to this day... I think Cheryl Ladd is one of the very few women who looks EVEN SEXIER now, in middle age, than she did when young! |
| Bill |
| coggs_53711@yahoo.com |
| Monday January 13 16:50:36 2003 Re: Ancient Bondage / BDSM Movie list |
| > I found an ancient article on Alt.Sex.Bondage,
This reminds me: I was away from computers for over a year, got a new computer...and can remember how ones gets to "newsgroups" such as Alt.Sex.Bondage, etc. Can someone help? Thanks. - Still looking for that great handgag scene of Susan Dey... |
| Bill Lloyd |
| cogg_53711@yahoo.com |
| Monday January 13 17:06:04 2003 Re: Chuck's Chicks |
| > I think Cheryl Ladd is one of the very few women who
> looks EVEN SEXIER now, in middle age, than she did when young! Not so. BTW, Ms. Ladd wasn't one of the captives in Marathon Angels. |
| TM |
| Monday January 13 17:25:10 2003 Re: Chuck's Chicks |
| > > I think Cheryl Ladd is one of the very few women who
> > looks EVEN SEXIER now, in middle age, than she did when > young! > > Not so. BTW, Ms. Ladd wasn't one of the captives in > Marathon Angels. Furthermore, she was never bound and gagged on "Charlie's Angels", either. I strongly suspect she had a clause in her contract that precluded her being bound and gagged. I recall one episode about bodybuilding in which her cover was blown and she was captured by the bad guys. She was merely locked in a storeroom, and not even bound, let alone bound and gagged. This would've been the perfect opportunity for her to be bound and gagged, and it was utterly missed. She merely paced around the storeroom, not secured in any way, until the bodybuilder broke down the door to rescue her. |
| Hadji |
| Monday January 13 17:59:03 2003 Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| > I don't think the lack of bondage means the shows'
> producers/writers are necessarily homosexual. They simply > do not share our fetish! Actually,they would probably > consider us a bit odd and curious for liking bondage! Masters and Johnson found that 90% of men and about 50% of women surveyed were turned on by bondage--and those are just the ones that admitted it on the survey. The catch is that bondage is still seen as "kinky," even "sick," so nobody on the production staff is going to come out and talk about it. The writers write a bondage scene, but when the director shoots it lame, the writers can't say, "Hey, that kind of bondage isn't sexy," because there's an unspoken agreement that it's not there to titillate, just to create suspense. The director may have deliberately toned it down so nobody could accuse him of being a fetishist., Ditto for the prop man, the actors, et al. |
| Paul |
| Monday January 13 18:00:38 2003 Re: Stargate |
| I can't help wondering what kind of alien culture has developed black duct tape...
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| Paul |
| Monday January 13 18:05:04 2003 Re: Ancient Bondage / BDSM Movie list |
| >can't remember how ones gets
> to "newsgroups" such as Alt.Sex.Bondage, etc. Can > someone help? You need a program called--surprise--a newsreader. Built into some web browsers but you'll have to read the instructions. You connect to a newsgroup server--most ISPs have one--and scroll down the list of available groups. If you're on AOL they won't list alt.sex.anything, but you can subscribe by typing in the name. But the last time I looked at alt.sex.bondage it contained nothing but spam. |
| Paul |
| Monday January 13 18:05:42 2003 Re: "TCM 2003" |
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> > You're absolutely right. And if you look at her left arm, > you can see ropemarks. They are most noticable right > above her elbow I sure hope you are rite,but I am not convinced that is a rope mark ,but I sure hope it is. The reason I am doubtful is she has the same kind of mark above her arm pit. I hope there is a scene cause it looks like it would be amazing. It certainly seems logical to expect one , however I read that they are going for a "SCREAM' type movie. I am keeping my fingures crossed. |
| Alex Bond |
| Monday January 13 18:13:16 2003 Harry Anderson ( Night Court) and wife |
| I once saw Harry Anderson and his wife perform a magic trick that involved his being placed in a straitjack while his wife is tied to a chair with rope to see who can get loose first.Does anyone know if his wife was ever gagged while performing this trick because I thought I had seen her gagged on the Internet somewhere but can't find a picture to prove to myself that it happened.Please Help. |
| Charon |
| Monday January 13 18:31:27 2003 Re: Sunday wrapup |
| > > I surmise that John Woo is a very successful director
> > because he knows exactly what guys want to see, namely > attractive women bound and gagged. > > You surmise incorrectly. He is not a bondage flick > director. He is successful because his films make > money...they do this by appealing to a wide audience with > varied tastes. You're right, John Woo is not a bondage flick director. He directs primarily action flicks, which appeal primarily to guys. Hie movies make money, because they appeal to his target audience, guys, and one of their appealing components is ... attractive women bound and gagged. |
| Hadji |
| Monday January 13 18:37:08 2003 Re: Ancient Bondage / BDSM Movie list |
| > This reminds me: I was away from computers for over a
> year, got a new computer...and can remember how ones gets > to "newsgroups" such as Alt.Sex.Bondage, etc. Can > someone help? Thanks. > First, you need to know the name of a newsgroup server (i.e, eagle.america.net). Get a newsreader program (although if you use Outlook or Outlook Express, there's one built in), and go to "View," then "Go to," and finally, "News." The newsreader will guide you through setting up your account, and then download a list of newsgroups from that server. Any other ?'s, just email me. Bob "Let's ROLL!" - Todd Beamer's last words, Flight 93, 9/11/01 |
| Bob Nielsen |
| knightryderrwn@msn.com |
| Monday January 13 18:41:08 2003 Re: Harry Anderson ( Night Court) and wife |
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> gagged while performing this trick because I thought I > had seen her gagged on the Internet somewhere but can't > find a picture to prove to myself that it happened.Please Help. NO gag |
| Alex Bond |
| Monday January 13 18:50:06 2003 Chuck's Chicks |
| Niether I, the origional poster of the above message regarding Cheryl Ladd's continued extreme beauty, nor Bill, the responding poster, believe that the "Marathon" ep of CC showed us the lovely Cheryl in restraint.
It was merely a statement of agreement regarding the desireability of a gorgeous woman even as she ages. And therefore, as a matter of taste, cannot be challenged with a simple phrase like..."not so" |
| introspector |
| Monday January 13 19:03:16 2003 Re: Cheryl Ladd |
| > > > I think Cheryl Ladd is one of the very few women who
> > > > looks EVEN SEXIER now, in middle age, than she did > when > > young! At least when I saw her in "One West Waikiki", which was quite a few years after Charlie's Angels (can hardly believe myself how many), I still found her as sexy as ever. > Furthermore, she was never bound and gagged on "Charlie's > Angels", either. I strongly suspect she had a clause in > her contract that precluded her being bound and gagged. Yeah, sure. In that case, she must have had second thoughts. I remember the nice scene in the show mentioned above, "One West Waikiki", when her cop friend found her in her bedroom bound and gagged. Wonderful how he takes his time untying her, causing some indignant mmmphs from her. BTW, I thought Waikiki was a show with a perfect DiD premise: Attractive woman getting involved in crime cases through her work, then snooping around on her own, getting caught, and her police friend has to come to her rescue. Pity they didn't play that card more often. |
| Peter de K |
| Monday January 13 19:27:15 2003 Re: BONDAGE VIDEOS |
| > Coming soon, my specialty videos will be available to the
> public. Don't care, it's off-topic here. > More info coming soon!! Not if I have anything to say about it, and I do! |
| The Moderator |
| Monday January 13 19:30:47 2003 Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| > > I'm now convinced that the writers of these new shows
> I hear you man. Talk about pathetic. The original post, the reply and the off-topic one selling videos all posted from the same IP addr. Get lost. |
| Brian R |
| Monday January 13 19:32:32 2003 In praise of "ageless" Dids |
| > > And I think Cheryl Ladd remains very sexy to this day...
> > > > > I think Cheryl Ladd is one of the very few women who looks EVEN SEXIER now, in middle age, than she did when young! -------------- And I'd have to say that I liked Jane Seymour's b&g scenes in "Memories of Midnight" & "Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman" and Linda Evans "Dynasty" even more than their DiD scenes earlier in their careers. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday January 13 19:36:24 2003 Reminder |
| The sexual orientation of movie and TV producers, writers, directors, etc. is NOT on-topic here. Cease and desist.
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| The Moderator |
| Monday January 13 22:03:52 2003 Re: Harry Anderson ( Night Court) and wife |
| As I understand it, the premise of this stunt was an escape race, and Harry would kick his wife's chair over to slow her down. Of course it was all played for laughs, but I would love to see caps and/or video. Alex? Anybody else?
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| Rich McGill |
| Monday January 13 22:09:06 2003 Comic book magic bondage |
| The January issue of Previews (the comics catalog) has a feature ad/article about the upcoming DC/Vertigo Zatanna: Everyday Magic one-shot. There's a b/w reproduction of a page which shows several tricks including the classic water tank escape--she has her hands cuffed behind her back! This trick is usually done with the hands in front--another advantage to comic book (and TV/movie) magic bondage. |
| Rich McGill |
| Monday January 13 22:57:54 2003 Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE?? |
| > Masters and Johnson found that 90% of men and about 50%
> of women surveyed were turned on by bondage--and those > are just the ones that admitted it on the survey. > > The catch is that bondage is still seen as "kinky," even > "sick," so nobody on the production staff is going to > come out and talk about it. The writers write a bondage > scene, but when the director shoots it lame, the writers > can't say, "Hey, that kind of bondage isn't sexy," > because there's an unspoken agreement that it's not there > to titillate, just to create suspense. The director may > have deliberately toned it down so nobody could accuse > him of being a fetishist., Ditto for the prop man, the actors, et al. Interesting point, Paul! One that makes a whole lot of intuitive sense. Has anybody heard of a director toning a scene down to avoid the appearance that the scene is too close to BDSM or too fetishy or crosses some other line? Any other thoughts, comments or inside information would be appreciated. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Monday January 13 23:09:31 2003 Re: Cheryl Ladd |
| > At least when I saw her in "One West Waikiki", which was
> quite a few years after Charlie's Angels (can hardly > believe myself how many), I still found her as sexy as > ever. I don't know if she looked better more recently when not bound than she did on Charlie's Angels. But, I would have to agree with Peter's above comment that in her recent work she looks as good as ever while she is not bound. Age has been kind to her indeed. However, inasmuch as she was never bound on Charlie's Angel's, and has had a couple of scenes on the much more recent One West Waikaki, I would have to say that I like seeing her on OWW better than seeing her on Charlie's Angels. I also agree with Peter that OWW had a very nice DID premise. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
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