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Sunday January 19 00:26:18 2003
Re: Best Redhead scene?
> > >

Does this drive anyone else crazy? The Best Redhead scene could have gone to "ComicBook Villains" IF: They had the perfect damsel - a stripper. The damsel was redheaded and gorgeous. She was a tease. She was kidnapped from the bar where she was a dancer. She was wearing next to nothing. They gagged her, but they didn't show it... She was tormented, but they took the damned gag off first!!! amazing!!! If ever a scene called for a close up, this was it. Natta!! A bafangoole....
doug
doug5759
Sunday January 19 00:27:28 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> Hate to be the bearer of bad news but it now appears that
> "The Lost World" is more than likely lost forever.
> By the way, many of Jennifer's scenes (including all 4 gag scenes) can be found at my old site. Just follow the link below.

No huge loss..this show was more of a "teaser" than any show I've seen in this decade. Let's hop Jennifer finds new avenues.
Mark O
Sunday January 19 00:35:13 2003
Dragnet
And while I'm at it, the Dragnet (with Tom Hanks and Dan Akroyd) scene has to be one of the most mystifying of all time...why were those women tied and gagged and what ever became of them? And yes I do need to know.
Mark O
Sunday January 19 01:16:40 2003
Re: Video game DiDs
> > Anyone know of any video games that had B&G females?
>

There's no gag, but there's a cute little cut scene in Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast. The hero's love interest has her hands tied behind her back by a scantily-clad Dark Jedi. She even manages a brief struggle and a yelp as she finishes the tying.

She's led on board the ship by the lady, and after the hero gets his ass kicked by the main bad guy, it cuts back to her, tied up, with the bad girl ready to kill her with her lightsaber.

All in all, pleasant and unexpected. That's one save I made sure I never deleted.
Lord Zoltar
Sunday January 19 01:52:33 2003
Re: she spies
> > did anything pan out on She Spies this weekend?
>
> Philly has a couple of caps.

More chair tie-ups without gags. Same script every week on this show. At this point, even the tie-ups are tiresome. I mean, mix it up a little, even if you end the tie-ups and just have chase scenes. Despite that, it's still better than "Alias," "Charmed", etc.
Brian W.
Sunday January 19 02:35:11 2003
Re: Video game DiDs
> > Anyone know of any video games that had B&G females?
>
> Two fun games come to mind right away. "Curse of Monkey
> Island" (The main reason I got a computer was so I could
> play that game.)

http://www.primagames.com/strategy/guide/46/980/5287 has a pic of the woman tied up in "Curse of Monkey Island", for those who'd like to check it out.

Gotta love how the ropework in cartoons is much more thorough than in live action! She's clearly going nowhere!
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Sunday January 19 03:49:38 2003
Killing Me
I see Killing Me Softly aired Friday on TMC. Anyone see it? Any gags? Thanks.
Sunday January 19 03:58:30 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> No huge loss..this show was more of a "teaser" than any
> show I've seen in this decade.

23 scenes, 5 with gags in just 66 episodes. I think a lot of shows that I've seen would deserve the term "teaser" more than this one ("Sheena" is one). Plus no one "works" a gag like Jennifer O'Dell (chewing, choking, coughing, etc.). I'm sure she'll go far, especially since, unlike Ms. Nolin, she can actually act.
CM
Sunday January 19 04:04:40 2003
Re: Killing Me

> I see Killing Me Softly aired Friday on TMC. Anyone see
> it? Any gags? Thanks.

A better title would have been "Boring me Softly". Huge disappointment. Heather Graham, clad in a terrycloth bathrobe, is briefly tied, very loosely, on top of a table. The guy falls for the old "untie me, I have to pee" line. He does and she jumps out of the bathroom window. Earlier there's a sexual asphyxiation scene but nothing else. No gags at all.

Supposedly there was another bondage scene that was cut but we'll have to wait for the DVD release to find out for sure.
CM
Sunday January 19 08:39:44 2003
kangaroo Jack
Does anyone know if Estella Warren gets her hands and feet tied in Kangaroo Jack. I don't want to see this movie, but if it has a decent scene with Estella Warren I'll happily go.
Another Dave
Sunday January 19 08:42:53 2003
Re: Video game DiDs
> http://www.primagames.com/strategy/guide/46/980/5287 has
> a pic of the woman tied up in "Curse of Monkey Island",
> for those who'd like to check it out.
>
> Gotta love how the ropework in cartoons is much more
> thorough than in live action! She's clearly going nowhere!

There's a brilliant scene in Broken Sword 2 for PS1 and PC. The damsel is bound to a chair and gagged with black tape, only downside is she's shown from behind so you can't really see the gag. Still, great mmmphing and struggling.
Jason Mc
derelict123@hotmail.com
Sunday January 19 09:23:42 2003
Lost World R.I.P. & Other Stuff
What sad news about The Lost World. I'll bet Jennifer o'Dell winds up in some damned sitcom. I posted a full commentary on the state of television DiD scenes on my web site's Opinion Page.

Snowcat, any man who quotes Homer Simpson is A-OK in my book.
The Greyman
vincegrey@thegreyman.net
http://www.thegreyman.net
Sunday January 19 12:43:42 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> > Hate to be the bearer of bad news but it now appears
> that
> > "The Lost World" is more than likely lost forever.
> > By the way, many of Jennifer's scenes (including all 4
> gag scenes) can be found at my old site. Just follow the
> link below.
>
Great ;- ( the one good show doing simple but sexy bondage scenes with a very hot girl in a skirt even; now gone. At least there was a lot of good stuff. I do not know how you can expect much more from a TV show. By the way I was wondering what else could they have done? I mean a hog tie would be nice but it is only a TV show.
Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Sunday January 19 12:57:32 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> I
> mean a hog tie would be nice but it is only a TV show.

I think they could have easily worked a hogtie in. Also, I was hoping for a rack scene and a suspension scene.


CM
Sunday January 19 13:04:57 2003
R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> > No huge loss..this show was more of a "teaser" than any show I've seen in this decade.
> > >
> 23 scenes, 5 with gags in just 66 episodes. I think a lot of shows that I've seen would deserve the term "teaser" more than this one...
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I agree w/ you, C.M. Off the top off my head, I'd be hard-pressed to name any other long-running TV series still on the air that DELIVERED such a plethora of DiD scenes.

And for those who complain that when a particular TV series finally provides a DiD scene of the series regular, who's then inexplicably dressed in something noticeably unsexy (e.g., Robocop's Yvette Nippar's scene was when she was in a winter coat + baseball cap), well, TLW certainly didn't do that.

The DiD scenes of the series regulars kept Veronica in her skimpy Jungle girl bikini, Finn in her skimpy contemporary video-game adventurer outfit, and Marguerite in her riding breeches and boots. And numerous indigenous babes, also in their skimpy native attire. Hmm, was any DiD clothed-in-"xxx" wishlist item NOT addressed?
Kinky-napper
Sunday January 19 13:08:40 2003
Re: Best Redhead scene?
> Does this drive anyone else crazy? The Best Redhead
> scene could have gone to "ComicBook Villains" IF:

C'mon! You had a bound and gagged redhead, and not just ordinary bondage either. Her arms were tied wide apart, leaving her body very vulnerable, and her ankles were tied, too. You DID get a tape gag!

It was a pretty darned good scene by mainstream standards.

Pat Powers
Sunday January 19 13:10:50 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> Plus no one "works"
> a gag like Jennifer O'Dell (chewing, choking, coughing,
> etc.).

Good point! Any other mainstream actresses who really "work" a gag scene?

Pat Powers
Sunday January 19 13:23:33 2003
Working a Gag scene
> > Plus no one "works" a gag like Jennifer O'Dell (chewing, choking, coughing, etc.).
> > >
> Good point! Any other mainstream actresses who really "work" a gag scene?
-----------
One of my favorite actresses, Pamela Gidley, who made each of her Four Gag scenes memorable with her loud Mmmphing and active struggling. I'm hoping against hope for her occasional appearances on CSI to add to her resume.
Kinky-napper
Sunday January 19 13:53:04 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> Good point! Any other mainstream actresses who really
> "work" a gag scene?

Linda Thorsen in the Avengers.

Here scene in "Look Stop Me..." with her eyes rolling, and her mmmpphhhing through a great detective gag set a standard, imo. This scene was just mentioned in the thread on waking up in bondage.
Also, here scen in "Stay Tuned" where she is straining against her captor's hold and trying to yell "Steed" through a cleave.

While I liked Diana Rigg light years beyond Throsen in general terms on the show, I have to say Thorsen bondage acting far exceeded Rigg's.
LV
Sunday January 19 14:32:21 2003
Re: Dragnet
> And while I'm at it, the Dragnet (with Tom Hanks and Dan
> Akroyd) scene has to be one of the most mystifying of all
> time...why were those women tied and gagged and what ever
> became of them? And yes I do need to know.

Because it was a "comedy," I think it's implied they were simply moved out of the way and not hurt. Or maybe it was a deleted scene. But when the cops busted in, they should have shown them in the truck or wherever they were being held during the rescue to tie up any loose ends. The female in the long, gold dress was stunning. Would have been nice to have gotten some closeups of her. And how many times to you get three females tied and gagged?

And as much as a like Alexandra Paul, I didn't even save her scene from that movie. It's amazing how they could make her look that ugly.
Brian W.
Sunday January 19 14:43:22 2003
Re: Dragnet
> And as much as a like Alexandra Paul, I didn't even save
> her scene from that movie. It's amazing how they could
> make her look that ugly.

To each his own I guess! Thats my favorite of her three gag scenes that I know of. As for the other two women I believe they were gagged becuase they were at the main gate and the villians needed to enter and suround the house with out anyone inside being alerted too early. Since they were extremely minor characters showing thier rescue wasn't really called for, it's just assumed.
Mark C
Sunday January 19 15:52:53 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"

> I think they could have easily worked a hogtie in.

I know I would have hogtied her,but I think we hardly see hogties on TV because of the political correctness B.S. on the hog tie. Would have been great though and it would have made sense beeing that she is a fighter.
>

Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Sunday January 19 15:54:31 2003
Re: "Working" a gag scene
At the top of my list would probably be Jennifer Beals in Four Rooms. She really made that scene.

I thought Teri Weigel did a great job of looking distressed in Night Visitors as well. She really looked as if having that great big red ball between her great big red lips bothered her.
Pat Powers
Sunday January 19 16:27:49 2003
Re: "Working" a gag scene
> I thought Teri Weigel did a great job of looking
> distressed in Night Visitors as well. She really looked
> as if having that great big red ball between her great
> big red lips bothered her.

I agree with you. This is still the best, IMO, ballgag scene in mainstream TV/Movies today. I love the part where she tries to push the ballgag out with her tongue, only to have the villian push it back in. I also enjoyed how she pulled her cheeks in to make the ballgag more prominent. I suspect it wasn't the first time Teri Weigel had a ballgag in her mouth.

As far as it bothering her, I always wondered if the red marks at the corner of her lips (after the ballgag was removed) were real or makeup.
Madfish
Sunday January 19 16:45:41 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> While I liked Diana Rigg light years beyond Throsen in
> general terms on the show, I have to say Thorsen bondage
> acting far exceeded Rigg's.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks so. I always felt Tara King portrayed a greater sense of peril in her scenes, where Emma Peel, with the exception of "The Gravediggers", seemed more annoyed or just tolerant at being tied-up. It seemed to fit the characters as Tara King was the clumsy, inexperienced trainee and Emma Peel was the polished and composed secret agent.
MadFish
Sunday January 19 16:49:25 2003
Halle Berry must like it
It appears Halle may be restrained again in her upcoming movie Gothika:

"This supernatural thriller from producers Joel Silver and Robert Zemeckis will star Halle Berry as a criminal psychologist who wakes up one morning at the institution where she works and discovers she's gone from employee to patient, after she's accused of a murder she doesn't remember committing. Penélope Cruz plays a fellow patient. No director or studio is attached yet, but production is set to begin in March. "

Exerpt from movie.go.com
tripper
Sunday January 19 16:50:27 2003
House of 1000 Corpses
There are two pics of gagged ladies in the movie at this site:

http://movies.go.com/movies/H/houseof1000corpses_2001/index.html
tripper
Sunday January 19 17:05:33 2003
Re: "Working" a gag scene
> At the top of my list would probably be Jennifer Beals
> in Four Rooms. She really made that scene.

Speaking of Jennifer Beals, has anyone ever taken a close look at the black cloth that was stuffed in her mouth? Could they be a pair of black panties? I always wondered because she was wearing a black bra as well. Take a close look at the scene where Tim Roth puts the gag back in.
MadFish
Sunday January 19 17:21:56 2003
Re: Working a Gag scene
> Good point! Any other mainstream actresses who really
> "work" a gag scene?

1. Olivia Birkelund futiley trying to catch the edge of her tape gag on her sleeve in Bone Collector. That sucker was on there tight!

2. Patricia Klous trying to push that tight cleave-gag out with her tongue in Terror Among Us.

3. Fabiana Udenio biting down hard on that harness bit-gag in Amazon.
MadFish
Sunday January 19 17:28:33 2003
Re: Working a Gag scene

> > Good point! Any other mainstream actresses who really
> > "work" a gag scene?
>
> 1. Olivia Birkelund futiley trying to catch the edge of
> her tape gag on her sleeve in Bone Collector. That
> sucker was on there tight!
>
> 2. Patricia Klous trying to push that tight cleave-gag
> out with her tongue in Terror Among Us.
>
> 3. Fabiana Udenio biting down hard on that harness
> bit-gag in Amazon.


Micheal Michelle did just about everything possible to try and get her gag off in Dangerous Curves.

Maggie Cheung's scene from Mad Monk was another great one!

Mark C
Sunday January 19 17:53:21 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> It seemed to fit the characters as Tara
> King was the clumsy, inexperienced trainee and Emma Peel
> was the polished and composed secret agent.


Precisely as I saw it. Mrs. Peel would seem to have a brief moment of panic at the first realization of her predicament, then regain her composure. Stiff upper lip and all that.
Tara was, like you said, inexperienced.

I should also add her great eye rolling and mmmphhing in "Split". Considering a Russian agent's mind was about to enter her own, composure was totally out the window that time.

Also one of the great lines right after being ungagged in "Look Stop Me...", when she utters "no gag".

Anyone remember any other ungagging lines from scenes?
LV
Sunday January 19 18:17:10 2003
Attack of the clones
Did anyone ever pick up the attack of the clones DVD... does know if the deleted scenes included extras from the part where natilie portman was captured... (i know this was probly already covered to death but i missed it...)
Realbiggeek
Sunday January 19 18:56:04 2003
Lost World Lost?
Ya know, as time goes by & I find myself looking more & more like King Théoden *before* Gandalf the White evicted Saruman... I am reminded of ALLLLL the series that have come & gone over the years & ALLLLL the damsels I've seen writhing in villains' ropes (all the way back to Penny on *Sky King* & Dale Evans on *Roy Rogers*)... I begin to glimpse a fundamental trvth: THERE ARE A LOT MORE WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

Jennifer was *NICE*, & Rachel (IMHO) was even better! (I know, I know, it's a matter of choice.) *Lost World* is no more? Maybe now Rachel will find a role worthy of her pulcritude.

Seriously, folks... life's too short for your glass to *NOT* be half full. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
Sunday January 19 20:20:14 2003
Ungagging Lines
> Anyone remember any other ungagging lines from scenes?
----------
Cheryl Ladd's from One West Waikiki ("Manpower" episode), which went something like:

"Mac! You do not make jokes when someone is tied up and gagged! It's... infuriating!"
Kinky-napper
Sunday January 19 20:23:49 2003
Re: R.I.P. "The Lost World"
> I should also add her great eye rolling and mmmphhing in
> "Split".

Helped in large part by Linda Thorson's big beautiful blue eyes. I saw her on some infomercial five or six years ago and was amazed at great she looked. She had to be at least in her mid-fifties.

> Anyone remember any other ungagging lines from scenes?

That's a toughie. It seems snappy retorts after being ungagged are a British attribute. American women only seem to manage "Yowwtch!" after the tape is ripped off, or "Ptewww!" after spitting the stuffing out. I guess that what comes from not learning the Queen's English.
MadFish
Sunday January 19 20:30:34 2003
Lost World Lost?
> Jennifer was *NICE*, & Rachel (IMHO) was even better! (I know, I know, it's a matter of choice.) *Lost World* is no more? Maybe now Rachel will find a role worthy of her pulcritude.
---------
Van, you're not alone -- Rachel Blakely was more "My type" too. Too bad the writers didn't "utilize" her in more DiD scenes, especially in those TLW episodes that had her dressed in elegant evening gowns.

But Blakely did take time off to star in Max Knight: Ultra Spy, so we can always hope she'll star in more of those Australian-made movies that feature dancers serenading b&g'd damsels to KC and the Sunshine Band...
Kinky-napper
Sunday January 19 20:51:43 2003
The Avengers - Steed's partners
> It seemed to fit the characters as Tara King was the clumsy, inexperienced trainee and Emma Peel was the polished and composed secret agent.
----------
Actually, when Diana Rigg started her run (remember those B&W episodes?), the Intro narration described Steed as the top professional agent, and Emma Peel as the "talented amateur". It wasn't a full-time job for her. Likewise, Honor Blackman's Catherine Gale was a scientist.

Diana Rigg was my favorite, and I agree that for someone such as Emma Peel (described in one episode as having a 158 IQ) would find being captured and b&g'd by the bad guys more a sort of personal embarrassment than anything else. Ditto a Catherine Gale.

Joanna Lumley was another young agent, rather similar to a Tara King. Steed was always the sly veteran agent (I suppose that there tend not to be too many "elder" field agents in his line of work) who relied on finesse (surprising someone with his umbrella, rather than engaging in an extended hand-to-hand combat).

Because Thorson's & Lumley's inexperience could sometimes land themselves and Steed in hot water, I was disappointed that Charlie's Angels last season didn't use that angle with Tanya Roberts' Julie Roberts, who didn't have ANY police or PI background. She probably had less of a training "program" than Peggy Lipton's Julie Barnes, and we know how many times sweet Julie was a damsel.
Kinky-napper
Sunday January 19 21:43:05 2003
Interesting bit on Joan Crawford bio
I just happened to walk in when my wife had the TV tuned to a bio of Joan Crawford, and the scene is Crawford tied up in "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?" The narrator was saying, "Joan complained, saying "The ropes are too tight!" but the director just left her hanging there while they discussed other aspects of the scene."

I don't know what might have come before.

The shiow was on Turner Classic Movies and started at 9 pm EST so any interested West Coasters can check it out.

Pat Powers
Sunday January 19 21:47:54 2003
Looking for "Danger Island" on Banana Splits.
I have been searching the Web for at least a photo of the girl who got me hooked forever onto TV and movie damsels in distress when I was very young. It was the character Leslie Hayden on the serial, "Danger Island" on the Saturday morning TV series "The Banana Splits" toward the end of the Sixties. Leslie Hayden was the daughter of Professor Hayden, who were both shipwrecked on a tropical island with several men, including a then unknown Jan Michael Vincent. The most memorable scenes were when Leslie was captured by the bad guys or island natives and tied up, screaming. I cannot recall whether Leslie was gagged in any of her captive scenes.

As I said before, I have been searching the Web for a shot of Danger Island's Leslie in captivity with no luck. I have found web sites for the Banana Splits TV series, with several pictures of Leslie, played by an actress named Ronne Troup, but none of them show her held captive. I found that "Banana Splits" was on the Cartoon Channel not too long ago. I hope that anyone who recalled that show could help out.
MrSteve
Sunday January 19 22:21:08 2003
Re: Looking for "Danger Island" on Banana Splits.
> I found that "Banana Splits" was on the Cartoon
> Channel not too long ago. I hope that anyone who recalled that show could help out.

I remember this from when I was growing up. I saw an episode in which she was grabbed over the mouth by either a pirate or a native. I missed the next episode, so didn't see what happened then. I saw it years later in syndication and waited for that episode. It was a disappointment. No gag where one was definitely called for.

I don't recall if this was the tie-up you mentioned as Idon't recall if she was even bound in this predicament.
LV

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