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Wednesday January 22 00:29:08 2003
Re: The Shield
> Thanks for alert. I missed it, but this episode repeats
> on Sunday.

Just to clear things up, the "torture" is having her arm cut off.
G-MaN
Wednesday January 22 00:46:58 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
i saw something on entertainment tonight or access hollywood, i can't remember which one, but it said that britney was indeed playing bruce willis' daughter and that she would be kidnapped!

britney fan
Wednesday January 22 01:05:40 2003
Could Britney be joining the club?
I'm not sure how reliable this information is, but I heard a news blurb on our local top 40 radio station that Britney Spears is set to star with Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4. She would be playing Willis' daughter who is kidnapped by a gang. Now whether this will lead to a scene or not is impossible to tell, but we can only keep our fingers crossed. I would hope that she not only be tied and gagged, but also wearing one of those school girl outfits from ...baby one more time.

I managed to find one article on this. The link is posted below.
Skeletor
rube912@yahoo.com
http://http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/comp/articleshow?artid=35083268
Wednesday January 22 01:28:08 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
> i saw something on entertainment tonight or access
> hollywood, i can't remember which one, but it said that
> britney was indeed playing bruce willis' daughter and
> that she would be kidnapped!

I have no expectations from "major" movies anymore after the last couple years. These "major" movies have been a major bust. When was the last scene from a major movie involving any semi-famous actress? I have to go all the way back to Marisa Tomei. (I can't count Amanda Peet's too-brief scene in "High Crimes."

I recently watched three movies that I knew going in had nothing. But each one had a letter-perfect setup for a tie-up/gag scene with a major actress that was wasted. We've seen the same setups over the years.

"Spiderman" with Kirsten Dunst; "Insomnia" with Hillary Swank; and "Trapped" with Charlize Theron (one of THE most absurd setups of all-time: Kevin Bacon as a so-called "brilliant" kidnapper yet he leaves Charlize untied the entire movie so she can stab him, punch him, and run away the entire movie.)

Also add in "Bloodwork" with the co-star whose name escapes me. That was another perfect setup by the board.
Brian W.
Wednesday January 22 02:47:05 2003
Re: The Shield
> > Thanks for alert. I missed it, but this episode
> repeats
> > on Sunday.
>
> Just to clear things up, the "torture" is having her arm
> cut off.

I didn't see anything in the way of bondage, either, except for the single shot of a deceased, cleave-gagged blonde in a car trunk at around 0:54. (There's another shot of her in the trunk, still alive, at around 0:19, but a blanket obscures whatever gag/bondage may have been present.)

Did I scan through too quickly? Whatever else may have been in there, it must have been awfully short.
Raffish
Wednesday January 22 03:06:09 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
> I recently watched three movies that I knew going in had
> nothing. But each one had a letter-perfect setup for a
> tie-up/gag scene with a major actress that was wasted.

And Sundance offered more of the same, as far as I could tell. "Nightstalker," an almost unwatchably bad (IMHO of course) slasher pic based on the life of serial killer Robert Ramirez, has the perfect setup for multiple scenes -- yet it generates only a quick behind-the-back handcuffing for a nude victim who winds up dead, along with a quick handgag for the detective heroine played by Roselyn Sanchez. "It's All About Love" wastes a perfectly good opportunity with Claire Danes, who gets drugged and kidnapped but never bound. And while I found the British post-apocalyptic thriller "28 Days Later" both terrifying and brilliant -- I can guarantee that you'll be hearing more about this one -- Naomie Harris and Megan Burns evade the treatment by a maddeningly slim margin.

"Spun" is the notable exception that we know about, but it premiered after I left.
Raffish
Wednesday January 22 04:34:28 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
> but I can't resist!
>
> From today's "Dark Horizons" website update:
>
> "Die Hard 4: Die Hardest: 'The Mirror' and 'Hello'
> reports that Britney Spears is up for the role of Bruce
> Willis' daughter whom has to be rescued from kidnappers."

As long as it keeps her from singing in the movie. ;)

Seriously, even tho I'm not her biggest fan, this is a scene I'd LOVE to see...
Gagged Damsel Lover
Wednesday January 22 07:01:40 2003
Smallville ?
Any thing on Smallville last night, episode Insurgence?

My local WB will preempt for basketball almost every night so any no shows alert would be appreciated

Thanks
Boyo
Wednesday January 22 07:20:20 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
According to IMDb :
Die Hard 4 is yes, based in the Carribian.
Now how McClane meets up with his daughter,
Lucy, is by accident.
She's a cabaret dancer and meets up with her dad by accident

http://bindherupx.net
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0337978/board/nest/512688
Wednesday January 22 07:36:04 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
> I have no expectations from "major" movies anymore after
> the last couple years. These "major" movies have been a
> major bust.

Depends on how you define "major" I guess. "Birthday Girl," "Killing Me Softly," "Joyride" and "Secretary" (a bondage film that made Maggie Gyllenhaal into a star) were all mainstream films featuring top actresses that were released in the last year or so.

Pat Powers
Wednesday January 22 07:39:04 2003
Britney Spears
Here is my favorite photograph of Britney Spears.

I hope she gets kidnapped while dressed as a cabaret dancer.
Demi Moore asked to play the villain.
I hope she dresses as a dancer to do the kidnapping.

I am hoping for a handgag, then a chloroforming, then
lots of white nylon ropes, completely by a nice white
cloth being tied between lips with red lipstick while
she is waking up.

If you are going to dream, dream big!
http://bindherupx.net/britneyspears.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Wednesday January 22 08:20:31 2003
Re: Primal Instinct
Someone asked about "Primal Instinct." Well, I've seen it, and it is a horrible movie, though it does have a couple of images of ballgagged women and at least one image of a woman in bondage (consensually). No true DiD scenes, and very little images of women in bondage considering it's about a "Bondage and Dominance" website whose lead dominatrix/submissive gets killed (and who happens to be the sister of the women who's the protagonist).

It is an stupid, mean-spirited movie which knows nothing about its subject matter (frex, they clearly don't know there's a difference between bondage and SM) and which portrays BDSM fans in the ugliest imaginable light. Sort of a stupider, even more mean-spirited 8 1/2mm.

Yes, I will be reviewing it soon. Not so much in a manner of critical appreciation, but of POUNDING A STAKE THROUGH ITS FUCKING HEART!!!!!
Pat Powers
Wednesday January 22 09:31:58 2003
Re: The Shield
There was a quick shot of her naked and gagged in the tub, the first time Wagonbach goes over there...but it's pretty darned unsetteling, seeing as how she's covered in blood and her arm's off.

________________
<I>Raffish Said:</I>
<B>Did I scan through too quickly?</B>

Wednesday January 22 09:33:10 2003
Re: The Shield
Huh. Sorry, that was my first time posting here.



Wednesday January 22 09:51:51 2003
Re: Major films
> > I have no expectations from "major" movies anymore after the last couple years. These "major" movies have been a major bust. When was the last scene from a major movie
> involving any semi-famous actress? I have to go all the
> way back to Marisa Tomei. (I can't count Amanda Peet's
> too-brief scene in "High Crimes."
>
>

Nicole Kidman in Birthday Girl would have to count, she's probably the most popular actress in the world at the mo (which destroys any "too famous to get gagged" theories people have). And by the end of the year, both Uma Thurman and Kate WInslet should be MMPPHHing on gags as well.
steve a
Wednesday January 22 10:29:52 2003
Re: Major films
> Nicole Kidman in Birthday Girl would have to count, she's
> probably the most popular actress in the world at the mo
> (which destroys any "too famous to get gagged" theories
> people have).

Bithday Girl was filmed before 'The Others' and 'Moulin Rouge' and sat on the shelf for a couple of years.
Wednesday January 22 11:19:39 2003
R For Revenge
Her wrists seem to be be tied on the front cover and it's a great tease for the inside cover.
http://art.half.ebay.com/prod/369366.jpg
Wednesday January 22 12:52:28 2003
britney in die hard 4
i saw an article in the new york daily news that talked about miss spears in die hard 4 so it looks very positive gee think they could line up christina aguilera as the villian
rich
agentponitail@hotmail.com
Wednesday January 22 13:19:12 2003
Opera
The DVD cover to the Dario Argento film Opera has nothing else but a tape gagged woman's face on it.The back of it has a full body pic of the scene as well.
Wednesday January 22 13:31:58 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
> > I have no expectations from "major" movies anymore
> after
> > the last couple years. These "major" movies have been a
>
> > major bust.
>
> Depends on how you define "major" I guess. "Birthday
> Girl," "Killing Me Softly," "Joyride" and "Secretary" (a
> bondage film that made Maggie Gyllenhaal into a star)
> were all mainstream films featuring top actresses that
> were released in the last year or so.

Yes, Nicole Kidman is very major. Forgot about that one. I suppose Leelee Sobieski is also major, but I wouldn't consider the other two major films. I also forgot SMG's brief scene, but I would put her scene in with Amanda Peet.

My biggest complaint, I guess, is the major movies using the same old tired plotlines at the end of the films (the girl grabbed by the bad guy or a kidnapping) but hardly any film delivering any scene despite the perfect setups, except for Sobieski's scene. Even Nicole Kidman's scene wasn't your typical damsel in distress storyline.
Brian W.
Wednesday January 22 14:31:05 2003
Who can identify this scene?
This picture below is from Tony Wood's Torture Scenes in Movies Database. It was on his compilation tape that he used to sell, but now that Tony and his website have diappeared, I was wondering if anyone on this board might recognize what movie it came from. It appears to be a foreign scene, if that helps.

Anyone who can come up with a title, thanks in advance.
ttp://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ralphus44/akl4.jpg
Ralphus
ralphus44@aol.com
http://books.dreambook.com/zfxetc/main.html
Wednesday January 22 14:46:12 2003
Re: Propogating ridiculous rumors...
> My biggest complaint, I guess, is the major movies using
> the same old tired plotlines at the end of the films (the
> girl grabbed by the bad guy or a kidnapping) but hardly
> any film delivering any scene despite the perfect setups,
> except for Sobieski's scene. Even Nicole Kidman's scene
> wasn't your typical damsel in distress storyline.

I'll grant you that there seems to have been an epidemic of missed setups lately. The worst IMHO is from a B-movie, Terminal Virus, where the gal needs to be tied up and made love to IN ORDER TO SAVE THE HUMAN RACE but no one seems to be able to figure out how to go about.

I'll tell you, we ever get that stupid in real life, we're not worth saving. But I'm beginning to think B-movie and Skinamax filmmakers may constitute a subhuman species that's physically just like humans, but without any pwoers of cognition.
Pat Powers
Wednesday January 22 18:41:56 2003
Re: R For Revenge
> Her wrists seem to be be tied on the front cover and it's
> a great tease for the inside cover.

Probably one of the biggest rushes any of us has ever had. You see the paperback cover, it looks interesting then you open it and see three B&G cheerleaders.

I wonder how sales for that book compared to other Sweet Valley editions.
Wednesday January 22 20:06:37 2003
Spanish show?
Has anything been happening on that Spanish show El Juega de la Vida?? There was some talk about it a bit ago & I've been monitoring it a couple times a week but haven't seen anything remotely resembling a bondage scene. Does anyone know if anything panned out on it?
JP
JAPfeif@aol.
Wednesday January 22 20:32:18 2003
Re: Could Britney be joining the club?
> I would hope that she not only be
> tied and gagged, but also wearing one of those school
> girl outfits from ...baby one more time.
I doubt that!
He-man
Wednesday January 22 20:44:09 2003
Want to identify ancient movie.
I remember, as a teenager, my mother flipping the TV channels one day. She flipped the channel to a scene from a very old movie, probably made in the early to mid Thirties, which showed a young woman, obviously naked, with her wrists shackled apart and chains attaching the shackles to a wall. The woman was waving her shackled arms around. Then the scene changed to a pan of a line of women chained the same way along the wall, all naked but with very long hair that covered the front part of their torsos. My mother then flipped the channel when the movie started to look interesting to me. Anybody recall that scene and know the name of the movie?
MrSteve
Wednesday January 22 21:03:48 2003
Re: Spanish show?
> Has anything been happening on that Spanish show El Juega
> de la Vida?? There was some talk about it a bit ago &
> I've been monitoring it a couple times a week but haven't
> seen anything remotely resembling a bondage scene. Does
> anyone know if anything panned out on it?

Philly Ed's site mentioned that something happened last week on Friday but there aren't any pics so I can't tell what the scenes' about. Also, I guess something happened on Yo y Tu last week, according to Ed??
Wednesday January 22 21:33:39 2003
Re: Want to identify ancient movie.
> I remember, as a teenager, my mother flipping the TV
> channels one day. Anybody
> recall that scene and know the name of the movie?

Sounds like Roman Scandals of 1933. Check the homepage link for a review with caps (warning: some breasts visible).

Pat Powers
http://www.jollyroper.com/fflist/roman/rs.html
Wednesday January 22 21:39:13 2003
JUGGIE"S??????
Have any of the "Juggy Dancers" from "The Man Show" Ever been B&G'ed???????????????
Wednesday January 22 21:45:20 2003
Re: Spanish show?
> Has anything been happening on that Spanish show El Juega
> de la Vida?? There was some talk about it a bit ago &
> I've been monitoring it a couple times a week but haven't
> seen anything remotely resembling a bondage scene. Does
> anyone know if anything panned out on it?

There was a brief straightjacket scene either Monday or last Friday. No other restraints since. However....

One villainous dude packing a pistol seemed to be making a move toward one of the babes at the end of today's episode. Since the series ends this week, there could be a 'not-too-uncommon for novellas' brief abduction followed by b&g scene tomorrow. But that's just a speculative guess.
Wednesday January 22 22:26:21 2003
Re: Spanish show?
> Philly Ed's site mentioned that something happened last
> week on Friday but there aren't any pics so I can't tell
> what the scenes' about. Also, I guess something happened
> on Yo y Tu last week, according to Ed??

I've added an "El Juego De La Vida" page and a "Tu Y Yo" page to my still-under-reconstruction series episode guide which can be accessed thru the link below. (Web space and bandwidth provided by bindher of bindher.com).

Last Friday Maki, who plays Tania, was placed in a mental hospital by her father who she hates (as evidenced by the "Te Odio" she keeps saying as the whitecoats snatched her). On Friday she was strapped down a bed and struggled mightily to no avail. On Monday there was a scene of her in a straitjacket. She escaped on Tuesday.

Two weeks ago there were separate short scenes for Ingrid Martz (who plays Gina) and Sara Maldonado (who plays Lorena). Gina's scene was unexpected but Lorena's was the result of a drawn out kidnap scenario which ended up delivering only the short scene listed.

As of the end of the today's episode Fabian had recaptured Lorena. However tomorrow is the final episode of the telenovela and since he has murder/suicide on his mind I'm not expecting much.
Philly Ed
philly_ed@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com/vcralert/
Wednesday January 22 23:00:17 2003
Shania 'fit to be untied'
I don't much like fashion references to S&M or bondage, but this dress Shania Twain is wearing has its virtues.

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Fashion/Archive/0,1642,475,00.html
ss
Wednesday January 22 23:02:21 2003
Re: The Life Of David Gale - Kate Winslet
> > Tape gag, handcuff, plastic bag.
>
> I read from the script that another woman (Laura Linney)
> got the same treatment. Any picture of her scene in the
> movie?

yes..there's a shot of her with just the tape on her mouth..but she's the murder victim (not a spoiler)..so it's not as good...

Wednesday January 22 23:46:23 2003
Re: Want to identify ancient movie.
> Sounds like Roman Scandals of 1933. Check the homepage
> link for a review with caps.

I checked out the site. It does look familiar. The chained slavegirls look much like what I remember.





http://www.jollyroper.com/fflist/roman/rsgang.jpg
http://www.jollyroper.com/fflist/roman/rsgang2.jpg
http://www.jollyroper.com/fflist/roman/rs19.jpg

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