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| Thursday January 09 00:36:05 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
| > Birds of Prey has two episodes un-aired . These episodes
> are currently filming. I would imagine the WB will burn > these episodes off in March or April. First off, nothing in the back-to-back episodes on Wednesday. No great exit for this series. Second, once a series is canceled I was under the impression production stops immediately, from what I've read. Some actors and actresses have been quoted as saying they didn't find out until they showed up for work. I was under the impression these two episodes were it, that's why the WB burned them off in one night to play out the string. If there are two unaired episodes, I wouldn't expect the WB to ever air them. This show is history, and rightly so. |
| Brian W. |
| Thursday January 09 01:04:37 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
| > > Birds of Prey has two episodes un-aired . These
> episodes > > are currently filming. I would imagine the WB will burn > > > these episodes off in March or April. > > > > I was under the impression these two episodes were it, > that's why the WB burned them off in one night to play > out the string. If there are two unaired episodes, I > wouldn't expect the WB to ever air them. This show is history, and rightly so. There are several Birds of Prey websites that list two more episodes in production. The series is a WB TV Production,which produces the show for the WB Network. The network decided not to order any more shows beyond the inital 13 episodes. The reason episodes 12 & 13 haven't aired yet is they are not completed. Production for the show will end by mid january. The ratings for the show were not that bad. Reasons cited for the cancellation were lack of s strong "show runner". the show improved on it's lead in every time it aired. |
| Thursday January 09 01:16:13 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
| > I was under the impression these two episodes were it,
> that's why the WB burned them off in one night to play > out the string. If there are two unaired episodes, I > wouldn't expect the WB to ever air them. This show is history, and rightly so. The original press release from the WB announcing the cancellation said that all 13 episodes that had been ordered would air. I think only 11 have aired so far. It's not uncommon for a cancelled show to reappear to burn off episodes, especially during the summer months. This usually happens when the episodes have already been paid for. It may not be a ratings grabber but at least it gives the network something to promote as "all new" programming when many shows are in repeats. |
| CM |
| Thursday January 09 01:24:44 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
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> The original press release from the WB announcing the > cancellation said that all 13 episodes that had been > ordered would air. I think only 11 have aired so far. > > It's not uncommon for a cancelled show to reappear to > burn off episodes, especially during the summer months. > This usually happens when the episodes have already been > paid for. It may not be a ratings grabber but at least it > gives the network something to promote as "all new" > programming when many shows are in repeats. Often wondered why the big three networks don't do that. They always eat unaired episodes of canceled series, like "Thieves" and "Wolf Lake" from last year. "Wolf Lake" played out its string on UPN but those "Thives" episodes were never aired. Who knows what's on them. |
| Brian W. |
| Thursday January 09 03:09:58 2003 Former Models |
| Janine Turner got scenes on "General Hospital" before her movie career. Also she got a scene on "Fatal Error".
Famke Janssen is also a former models. For 40's, perhaps Maria C. Alonso, Stephanie Zimbalist scenes, after "Remington Steele". For 50's, perhaps Doris Roberts on "Remington Steele" (Gag scene, the villain: "You remind me of my mother. I hate my mother!") |
| asian |
| Thursday January 09 03:55:33 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
| > First off, nothing in the back-to-back episodes on
> Wednesday. In the first of the two episodes, abducted heroines (including the Huntress and one of the other regulars, I guess) are pitted against one another in a cage. Just before the opening bell, so to speak, they are strapped to the sides of the cage. A couple of them struggled nicely, I thought. In something of a "let's get ready to rumble," the abductor proclaims "Release the ladies" or the like to get the festivities started. And for chloro fans, note that at least two of them (including, again, the Huntress) are shown being struck by sleepy-bye darts. In conjunction with the multiple scenes in cages, the fact that several of the ladies are physically restrained by the guards, the taunt-and-defy style banter, and the multiple uses of these sort-of lighted Harnesses of Pain-type thingies, well, all in all, with no disrespect to the poster at all, I think "nothing" is somewhat lacking as a descriptive term in this case. I, for one, found it on the whole rather, well, "something." |
| Not Brian |
| Thursday January 09 04:06:44 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
| well, i did catch a glimpse of gladiatrix but my reception ahs been shot since those windstorms, so it wasnt worth trying to watch.. anybody see it? ashley scott finally bound in any decent manner? so far the only good scene that show has produced was lori loughlins.. which was great though.
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| didcaptured |
| didcaptured@yahoo.com |
| Thursday January 09 05:49:56 2003 Three Questions |
| > What do you consider to be the best scenes involving middle-aged actresses?
> > > > Kate Nelligan - Terror Stalks the Class Reunion (42); -------------- Yes, that scene is one of my favorites! It has just about everything for everyone: A still-attractive damsel, involved evil captor/DiD struggling, Hand-gagging, and Onscreen Gagging, cuffing, blindfolding, and belting. And that was just the capture! Later, we get Closeups, Mmphing, Damsel-carrying, Ankle-chaining, and a resourceful damsel who realizes that she's not entirely powerless in the obsessed captor-obssession relationship. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Thursday January 09 06:12:14 2003 Birds of Prey |
| > In the first of the two episodes, abducted heroines (including Huntress and one of the other regulars...the multiple uses of these sort-of lighted Harnesses of Pain-type thingies, well, all in all, with no disrespect to the poster at all, I think "nothing" is somewhat lacking as a descriptive term in this case...
------------ I'll have to place myself in the camp of the first poster. I find those Sci-Fi "Do as I command, or I'll shock you thru your electrical harness or collar" to be annoying BECAUSE they substitute for "low-tech" Bondage. This also occurred in the original Star Trek's "Gamesters of Triskellion". So instead of Lt. Uhura and the obligatory outrageously voluptuous alien space babe ("ASB") being placed in proper shackles, they're "restrained" by wearing a simple collar. In the Birds of Prey episode, the evil captor wouldn't have been able to utilize ropes on the superheroines (Heat-vision tends to make short work of hemp). However, we could've seen sturdy titanium, such as a "Secretary"-like collar yoke w/ spreader bar. Served him right at the end that he depended on pain-harness thingees and injections, rather than on basic precautionary bondage. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Thursday January 09 08:57:12 2003 Re: Birds of Prey |
| > I'll have to place myself in the camp of the first
> poster. I find those Sci-Fi "Do as I command, or I'll > shock you thru your electrical harness or collar" to be > annoying BECAUSE they substitute for "low-tech" Bondage. I think you and the previous poster on this subject are BOTH right. Clearly, there's a lot more going on in this ep than "nothing." Women in cages, strapping to the fight cage, taunting, etc., is not NOTHING. But then, there's nothing you could actually call BONDAGE in any of it. Even the cage-strapping ... how did you know there were straps? I never saw the bonds, just inferred them by the fact that the contestants stood with their arms behind their back against the wire, as if strapped there, until released. I am WHOLEHEARTEDLY in agreement with the high-tech substitute for bondage. Most of the time, high-tech substitutes for bondage make the damsel look less-restrained, not more restrained. (Examples of rare high-tech bondage that looks intense: the cuffs and shackles worn by the female lead in "Caged Heat 3000".) But the glowy pain harnesses? Hey, what the hell ever happened to just chaining a gal by the wrists and whipping her? It's simple, it's effective, it's bondage (especially if you gag her so her screams aren't so annoying). At least when they put Carolyn Lowery in a leather harness in "Viscious Circles" they thumbcuffed her while they punished her by putting the mysterious wazooifier into an undisclosed womanly bit. Now, that's dramatic. Glowy harnesses with no bondage? Get real. One final part: so this villain is evil enough to kidnap beautiful young women and pit them in fights to the death, but he lets them fight in street clothes for his all-male audience? Not bloody likely! Surely they'd be naked or (since this is TV) dressed in sexy rags. Maybe a thong and a halter top that gives their breasts full freedom to wobble. Now, I don't mean to brag, but in my novel Karg I had a fighting slave episode. I had the women naked and gagged and with their wrists cuffed behind their backs AND shackled ... WHILE THEY FOUGHT! Oh, yeah, and they wore strap-on dildos too. The dildos had a colored ring at the base, and the first contestant to get her strap-on far enough in the other contestant's orifices to cover the colored ring ten times was the winner. Since the contestants were restrained, this necessitated a lot of ramming each other and jumping on each other, and in the end, lots of very close contact between the contestants, as you might imagine. Winner got a very nice meal and the loser as her slave for several days. Now, that's how you handle a fighting slave scene. |
| Pat Powers |
| Thursday January 09 09:10:58 2003 Re: BoP |
| And if you don't think that BoP could have gone CONSIDERABLY further than it did last night, just compare "Gladiatrix" with the "P4W" ep of Lexx that aired early this morning.
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| Pat Powers |
| Thursday January 09 10:01:09 2003 Bloody Handcuff / Chain |
| I saw "Vegeance Unlimited" scene mentioned on DB.
The DID was handcuffed to the leg of the chair (hand on her side) and blindfolded with blue bandana. The chair is secured to the floor. The DID try to release her hand and her wrist is hurt (bloody handcuffs). Any other DID scene with bloody handcuff /chain? |
| asian |
| Thursday January 09 10:48:47 2003 Re: Bloody Handcuff / Chain |
| >. Any other DID scene with bloody handcuff /chain? <<
There's the opening scene in "Dragonslayer." Check out database entry #1625. |
| Thursday January 09 12:00:26 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| > Very quick duct tape gag scene at the end of tonight's
> Twilight Zone on UPN. Cute > brunette gets gagged, but stuns her attacker and removes > her gag. One MMMMMPH. Does the poster--or anyone--know if that was Linda Cardellini, who played Velma in the Scooby Doo movie? She was supposed to be the guest star on that episode (which I missed). I know she didn't look like much in Scooby Doo (she was supposed to look like Velma, of course), but in other performances she's really very cute (see link). |
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| Thursday January 09 12:32:31 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| "A tabloid writer (Linda Cardellini) puts her fate in the hands of a fortuneteller (Method Man); a troubled man (Devon Gummersall) stalks a clerk (Taryn Manning). " |
| Thursday January 09 12:33:25 2003 This week's update |
| Happy New Year, DiD lovers! The second half of my super-sized recap of 2002's best TV scenes in now online. Give it up for Leslie Hope in 24 "11:00PM-12:00AM," Jessica Welch in Big Wolf On Campus "What's The Story? Mourning Corey," Anne Judson-Yager in Boomtown "Coyote," Alyson Hannigan and Michelle Trachtenberg in Buffy The Vampire Slayer "Normal Again," Emily Van Camp in Glory Days "There Goes The Neighborhood," Poppy Montgomery in Glory Days "The Lost Girls," Rekha Sharma and Gli Edmonds in John Doe "The Mourner," Cobie Smulders in Special Unit 2 "The Wish," and (not shown) Kristin Kreuk in Smallville "Obscura."
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| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/ |
| Thursday January 09 12:36:28 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| Taryn was one of Britney's co-stars in Crossroads
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| Thursday January 09 13:59:47 2003 The Young and the Restless |
| No bondage for Lauren Woodward on today's The Young and the Restless. She was rescued and her captors left. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Thursday January 09 14:47:41 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| > Very quick duct tape gag scene
First gag in any 'Twilight Zone' episode? |
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| Thursday January 09 14:54:59 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| > Very quick duct tape gag scene at the end of tonight's
> Twilight Zone on UPN. What was the 'twist' of the episode? |
| Rod S |
| Thursday January 09 16:05:16 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| > What was the 'twist' of the episode?
A nice twist would have been using other kind of type than ubiquitous duct. |
| Thursday January 09 16:08:41 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| > First gag in any 'Twilight Zone' episode?
Yes, I think so. Although there was a good handgag scene in the classic episode "It's a good life", about the boy who could make things happen just by thinking of them. |
| PRW |
| Thursday January 09 16:25:08 2003 Re: WEST COAST ALERT: TWILIGHT ZONE |
| > Yes, I think so. Although there was a good handgag scene
> in the classic episode "It's a good life", about the boy > who could make things happen just by thinking of them. > There was also an HG scene in an episode where two women are in an extremely hot apartment (because the Earth is moving closer to the sun). The younger handgags the older when there's a knock at the door. The twist is that it turns out to be a dream and the Earth is actually moving AWAY from the sun. |
| Thursday January 09 19:07:52 2003 Re: Three Questions |
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> > 2) in what order would you rank former models DiD > scenes? > > > A favorite topic of mine. > * Pamela Gidley > * Kathy Ireland ("Gridlock") > * Carol Alt > * Cybill Shepherd ("Yellow Rose" scene) > * Rachel Hunter ("Tripfall") > * Jennifer O'Neill ("Cover Up") > * Angie Everhart Both Pamela Gidley and Jennifer O'Neill were bound and gagged in the movie "Bad Love". It was a lengthy and memorable bondage scene. The home invader, who was actually Gidley's lowlife boyfriend, made her tie up and gag O'Neill and then proceeded to tie up and gag Gidley. Both ladies were tied to chairs and gagged with blue cleave gags. Tragically, O'Neill's character choked to death on her gag. |
| Hadji |
| Thursday January 09 20:36:07 2003 THE RIFLEMAN |
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I've just done some work on the series' DB entries. BTW, "Lou Mallory" should be coming up soon on THE HALLMARK CHANNEL, as it appears the eps are airing in original order. Speaking of ... can anyone confirm another scene for Patricia Blair? I have my suspicions that 3507 and 4581 are describing the same scene. Please post any intel to DB Corrections. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Thursday January 09 21:48:33 2003 El Juego de la Vida - alert |
| This Spanish soap on Univision (3pm EST daily) had a pretty blonde tied sitting down AOH to a wooden sculpture in a garden and her ankles tied. No gag. Scene occurred about 20 min into Thursday's show and then she wasn't seen again. Probably will be shown on Friday's episode. Philly Ed has a vidcap on his alerts page. |
| chubby |
| Thursday January 09 21:53:44 2003 Bridgette Wilson |
| Does anyone know of any scenes featuring Bridgette Wilson? She had one chloroform scene in Love Stinks but that is the only things close to anything. Has she had any Hand Gag's or Full Treatments? Also, I like at the end of Love Stinks when the police officer mentions gagging her, too bad we never see that. |
| HG Lvr |
| Thursday January 09 22:08:26 2003 without a trace |
| tonights show is about a very cute teen that gets abducted |
| Thursday January 09 22:22:40 2003 Re: Lame scenes |
| > > Don't blame the writers. They have no control over how
> the scene is set up, photographed or how long it is. > Blame the pace of TV production. > You brought up a good point that I'd never thought about > before. The omission of a scene, or a lame DiD scene, may > not necessarily be the "fault" of dumb writers, sloppy > directors, or editors that left the "good parts" (such as > the never-aired Joanna Lumley "Avengers" b&g scene) on > the cutting room floor. While there may be instances where the writers are not at fault for lame scenes, IMO, the She Spies "Three Women and a baby scene is NOT one of them. True, the director was also at fault, but, the writers contibuted greatly to the disaster. Instead of showing the B&G'd damsels, we had to see this lame scene of the other two She Spies girls trying to getting into the office where the damsels were tied. The blame for that dumb, and wholly unnecessay scene, (including its stupid dialog), as well as the valuable time that scene took away from viewing the damsel scene is most likely on the writers. Similarly, I believe the writers must bear the blame for the putz scene. It is the writers that initailly decide on the plot points and the scenes that are going to be in a production. Granted, the damsel scene was poorly filmed, but the writers greatly contributed to the situation by not emphasizing the scene innthe plot and giving it such little time. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Thursday January 09 22:34:48 2003 BoP vs. Charlie's Angels (Angels in Chains) |
| > And if you don't think that BoP could have gone CONSIDERABLY further than it did last night, just compare "Gladiatrix" with the "P4W" ep of Lexx that aired early this morning.
------------- If I may compare the Birds of Prey ("Gladiatrix") vs. the Charlie's Angels ("Angels in Chains") episode, pretty well sums up why BoP didn't even run one full season, whereas Charlie's Angels became the #1 rated TV show. As acknowledged by Kate Jackson on last week's E! True Tales two-hour documentary, "Angels in Chains" is by far the Charlie's Angels episode which EVERYONE remembers. As I recall, it may have even been the 1st episode (after the pilot aired). The pilot promised SEXY, and the episode delivered (Farrah, Jaclyn, and Kate showering and getting deloused in the first 10 minutes!). Sadistic wardens who force their captives (the Angels, plus Kim Basinger in an early role) to wear hooker outfits to their "parties", and lock the three into Chains when they step outta line. The Angels cleverly using their bonds as a tool to make their escape from the wardens. Numerous publicity stills circulated of the Angels posing in their chains. BoP pre-pilot promos promised sexy, and never seemed to deliver. In "Gladiatrix", sadistic wardens allow their captives to continue wearing their street clothes, and lock them into separate cages wearing glowing "Pain harnesses" (in lieu of standard issue wrist, ankle, and belly chain shackles). "Titillating" scene included of captives being fed their gruel in pans. Sheesh. |
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