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| Friday January 03 00:23:30 2003 RetroGirl |
| My pal over at New Phoenix Filworks dropped me a line and told me to take a look at his latest indie film, "RetroGirl", there might be something in it that interest me. (...and it has some bondage, also.) So as a compensated endorser (and the fact that I miss having a website) I've posted a couple of caps on a Geocities account. (Hopefully it's still there in the morning.) |
| G-MaN |
| gman22471@yahoo.com |
| http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/RetroGirl2.html |
| Friday January 03 01:21:03 2003 Killing Me Softly |
| Finally, "Killing Me Softly" comes to the U.S.. After a year of having the release date pushed back, MGM seems to have given up on a theatrical release and thus it will debut on The Movie Channel, this Saturday, January 4th at 8:00pm Central. Hopefully when the film makes it's way to DVD we'll find out if the much rumored deleted second Heather Graham bondage scene actually exists. |
| CM |
| Friday January 03 01:39:39 2003 Re: Anyone remember this scene from "Pointman"? |
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> While zapping through the channels, I caught the end of a > scene in "Pointman" (short-lived action series with Jack > Scalia). This is the best I could make of it: > --- > Record No. 8260 > Title: Pointman > Medium: TV Series > Actress: Kristin Bauer (?) > > Description: Episode: "Business And Pleasure" (1.17) > If anyone can add some information about this one, please > post it to DB corrections. (I'd also like to know if I > missed anything). Actually the actress is Kathy Trageser who was a semi-regular on "Pointman". I too only caught the tail end of the scene in it's original airing. If memory serves me correctly she also has the blade of a sword pressed against her throat. And she was stretched tight to every corner of that bed. I'm not positive but I think it was rope and not cable ties but I haven't see it in years and probably couldn't come up with the snippet I caught on tape if I looked for a year. I'll correct the name in the DB. |
| CM |
| Friday January 03 03:38:43 2003 Tied and True tales temporarily down |
| I'm writing this in response to the numerous e-mails I've received concerning the "disappearance" of Restrained Tastes and Tied and True Tales.
Apparently, the web-hosting company hosting RT (my host) is moving office so the servers are down until the move is completed - should be back online by Monday. |
| mason |
| Friday January 03 06:46:15 2003 The Abductors |
| > I happen to think The Abductors contains some of the best scenes from that era. It certainly was way ahead of its time. Leather strap gags (although not very tight), women b&g topless, women tied and teased. It's more like a soft-core version of a commercial video. -----------
I agree -- actually, I think "The Abductors" contain some of the best scenes of any era! Its opening prologue was as explosive (in its own way) as when one saw "Raiders of the Lost Ark"'s prologue for the first time: The car of three cheerleaders is forced off the road, and they're ordered at gunpoint to strip to their panties, then have their hands bound behind their backs, and are Leather strap-gagged ONSCREEN. Among the film's features that could be appreciated is that Ginger, Carter (Jennifer Brooks), the cheerleaders, and even the "hardcase" captive stewardess were not only passionately kissed, fondled, and licked while bound, but all began to realize how bondage could be a welcome component to foreplay (Actually, Ginger enjoyed bondage w/ sex in both the earlier Ginger + Girls are For Loving). The man in charge of the erotic training of the original four captives + Brooks didn't just ravish them, he seemingly made an effort to ensure that the captives enjoyed as much bondage pleasure as possible. A final comment: Not only are all of the DiDs attractive (particularly Jennifer Brooks), but since it was made in 1972, none of their figures were surgically "augmented". Well, at least that's a plus for me. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday January 03 08:12:23 2003 Re: RetroGirl |
| > My pal over at New Phoenix Filworks dropped me a line and
> told me to take a look at his latest indie film, > "RetroGirl", there might be something in it that interest > me. (...and it has some bondage, also.) Hey G-man. New Phoenix also produced Darkfury, which is supposed to have a scene for AOH lovers like me (see some bondage caps at the link). The website doesnt say how much either of these movies cost to buy though. Any idea? |
| MAV |
| http://www.newphx.com/DarkfuryGallery.html |
| Friday January 03 09:06:01 2003 Sundance |
| Anyone got any hot tips for Sundance this year? I'll be attending the the first four days (Friday 17-Monday 20), and while I've already got 19 screenings tentatively on my schedule, there's might be room for some last-minute shuffling. Needless to say, I'll report back on anything noteworthy. Remember, Sundance was our first look at "Secretary" and "Birthday Girl" last year!
(I already know about "Spun," but sadly, it doesn't premiere until Wednesday 22.) |
| Raffish |
| http://festival.sundance.org/pages/film_guide/film_guide01.aspx |
| Friday January 03 10:55:52 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
| > Finally, "Killing Me Softly" comes to the U.S.. After a
> year of having the release date pushed back, MGM seems to > have given up on a theatrical release and thus it will > debut on The Movie Channel, this Saturday, January 4th at > 8:00pm Central. Hopefully when the film makes it's way to > DVD we'll find out if the much rumored deleted second > Heather Graham bondage scene actually exists. Hot damn, 2003 is starting off great! This is definitely gonna be an interesting movie, and "Masterpiece" that debuted on HBO Latina last night was an incredible flick -- the female lead spends almost all of the film in bondage, and is gagged a couple of times, too. It was a Spanish language version of "Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down!" ;> It seems like all the DiD energy has moved into independent films nowadays. Which is not surprising, as they are more of a cultural bellwether than mainstream movies and TV. Good hunting at Sundance, Raffish! |
| Pat Powers |
| Friday January 03 11:03:23 2003 Re: John Doe |
| > > I rather think that Jayne Brook's Lt. Avery WILL be
> > gagged, in this "Part 2" episode. The commercial has > > one snippett where she says to Lenny: "You made a > > mistake. He won't come for me." Lenny appeared to be > > bending in front of her, so he could be eye-level with > >his chair-bound captive, with his hands below. Perhaps > >he's even readying a piece of duct tape -- which would > > make sense, since the commercial implies at some point > >in the show that the police close in on a building's > >garage doors which will be booby-trapped with > >exlosives. > > I hope you are right Kinky-napper. However, I can't say > that I am as optimistic as you are about the prospects > for a gag. That Fox would show a promo of a scene where > the damsel is tied, but not gagged during a football game > - with a predominately young male audience - does not > give me a whole lot of hope. It seems to me that if Fox > had shots of the damsel gagged they would have used them > like they did last year in promoting 24 during football > games and the World Series. I would have had more hope > if the promo had simply shown the damsel being knocked out. Not necessarily. You need to keep in mind that most of the population (male and female) aren't as into gags as most of us here. I just don't think that the producers (or whoever makes the promos) have the idea that "we'll get a bigger audience tuning in if we show the young lady gagged". Promos are to give an idea of the plotline of the show & if the plot deals with a kidnapped girl then probably a scene will be shown of her in her kidnap situation. The reason Eliza was shown tape gagged in the "24" promos was probably because she was tape gagged most of the time & it probably was more likely that the shot of her in her kidnap situation would be a gag shot. There is no reason to think "John Doe"'s scene won't have a gag just because we didn't see it in the promos. There have been numerous shows with kidnap themes that didnt' show the gagged damsel in promos. Again, I think we are in the MINORITY and the average Joe out there (or Jane) don't think of a gag as a selling point to tuning in to a show. My brother was in the room while I was taping "Lone Star State of Mind" the other day and during Jaime King's gag scenes he didn't bat an eye or I think even stop reading his USA Today, and how many times has anyone here been in a room with someone channel-surfing & a show with a girl tied & gagged pops up and just as quickly the surfer goes to the next channel. Actually that happened to me a while back..a bunch of guys (& gals) were watching a game or movie over the holidays & during a commercial someone started flipping thru the channels & it happened that the movie "Rentadick" was playing and the scecne with the 6 girls tied & gagged on the cloths rack came up & just as quickly went bye-bye. It was a full close-up og the girls & not a person in the room even commented (except my girlfriend, who nudged me & said "hey honey, you oughtta like that"). Point: Gags aren't a major selling point to the general public to a show. JUST my opinion or course!! And I love gags as much as anyone around here!! |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Friday January 03 12:23:22 2003 Re: John Doe |
| > Point: Gags aren't.....
But Handgags might be |
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| Hitch |
| Friday January 03 12:25:41 2003 Re: John Doe |
| > > Point: Gags aren't.....
> > But Handgags might be --------------------------------------- "The quotes made up 75.86% of your post, which is not acceptable." This came up even though I only included the LAST SENTENCE from the original post. Looks like no more one or two word replies. |
| Hitch |
| Friday January 03 12:40:10 2003 Danes abducted in T3 |
| No real confirmation of a scene here, but this excerpt from the Dark Horizons site indicates that the abduction of Claire Danes' character in T3 IS a major plot point... while there's no way of knowing if a scene will occur, I for one have always had big hopes of Danes receiving the treatment... (second only to Julia Stiles, methinks)... so let's keep fingers crossed.
From Dark Horizons: ********** Terminator 3: The humble Claire Danes talked with UGO about her role in the third sci-fi epic: "She's a veterinarian and she's engaged to kind of a conservative kind of guy, and the Terminator abducts her. John Connor comes to save her and adventures unfold. I do have awesome lines. But I'm sworn to secrecy. |
| Hibiscus |
| Friday January 03 12:48:05 2003 Re: Danes abducted in T3 |
| > comes to save her and adventures unfold. I do have
> awesome lines. But I'm sworn to secrecy. Hopefully she considers 'mmmmmmph mmmmmph mmmmmmmmph' to be an awesome line. |
| Friday January 03 13:14:58 2003 dids for 2003 |
| I would go for Neve Campbell, who is well overdue a scene, and perhaps a serious tie up for Alicia Silverstone, as the self applied sellotape scene in Excess Baggage was more of the comedy variety.
Neither of these ladies seem to have appeared on screen, at least in the UK, for some time now - does anyone know if they have anything in the pipeline - or are they "resting"? |
| Gaz |
| Friday January 03 13:45:54 2003 the bill |
| the bill had the blonde dci tied to a chair last night
her hands were tied to the arms of the chair and a old grey scarf as a blindfold. a captured policewoman and the bondage was crap. how about her wrists tied behind her back arms tied to her upper body ankles tied together and gaged with tape. i think everybody who looks at this site could do a lot better and probably has at one stage or another at home has reese witherspoon ever done a did scene ? |
| cuffkey1 |
| cuffkey1@bushinternet.com |
| Friday January 03 13:52:38 2003 Re: the bill |
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> has reese witherspoon ever done a did scene ? She did 2 scenes actually- both in "Best laid plans". Look in the DB. |
| Per |
| Friday January 03 13:58:09 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
| > It was a
> Spanish language version of "Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down!" You mean a Latin American remake, or??? Since "Tie me up, tie me down" is a Spanish movie, right out of Madrid. |
| Per |
| Friday January 03 14:03:35 2003 Re: John Doe, Elisha |
| > > > I rather think that Jayne Brook's Lt. Avery WILL be
> > > gagged, in this "Part 2" episode. > Not necessarily. You need to keep in mind that most of > the population (male and female) aren't as into gags as > most of us here. I just don't think that the producers > (or whoever makes the promos) have the idea that "we'll > get a bigger audience tuning in if we show the young lady > gagged". I would agree in most cases, but in this one since the detective is likely kidnapped early in the episode a gag becomes necessary at some point for realism since the bad guy won't be spending all his time with the captive. We also might get a lot of telephone calls, always a good sign if the guy's in the same room. I would be surprised if she wasn't gagged at some point. >The reason Eliza was shown tape gagged in the > "24" promos was probably because she was tape gagged most > of the time & it probably was more likely that the shot > of her in her kidnap situation would be a gag shot. Disagree here bigtime on that particular example. If ever a showed exploited a gagged female, it was "24." They showed Elisa gagged to get the male audience to tune in, and it worked. That was blatant. Remember, Elisa wasn't even gagged until the fourth or fifth episode, yet they showed her gagged in the all the previews for weeks ahead of the debut episode, during baseball and football games, before the first episode even aired. |
| Brian W. |
| Friday January 03 14:48:51 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
| > Since "Tie me up, tie me down" is a Spanish movie, right
> out of Madrid. I KNEW there was some reason I put a "wry smile and a wink" emoticon right after that line ... 0:) |
| Pat Powers |
| Friday January 03 14:50:38 2003 Re: dids for 2003 |
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> Neither of these ladies seem to have appeared on screen, > at least in the UK, for some time now - does anyone know > if they have anything in the pipeline - or are they "resting"? I think Alicia Silverstone is still slated to play Mary Jane for the "Spider-Man" sequel (which may not come out this year, but you never know), so we may get another chance at a scene for her. |
| PRW |
| Friday January 03 15:03:42 2003 The Conman |
| I've updated my site with caps of Angie cheung from The Conman. |
| Mark C |
| http://community.webtv.net/M-Col/CONMAN |
| Friday January 03 15:09:55 2003 Re: John Doe, Elisha |
| > Disagree here bigtime on that particular example. If ever
> a showed exploited a gagged female, it was "24." They > showed Elisa gagged to get the male audience to tune in, > and it worked. That was blatant. Remember, Elisa wasn't > even gagged until the fourth or fifth episode, yet they > showed her gagged in the all the previews for weeks ahead > of the debut episode, during baseball and football games, > before the first episode even aired. You have to admit that the "male audience" is pretty diverse- some men don't care about bondage at all, some love it, most probably like it but can take it or leave it. It is clear proof that network types do not think that bondage sells all the time in all situations- otherwise you would see it a lot more often. If they are right or not, who can say exactly... but it is just as well, as the novelty of finding the unusual scene is part of the fun of it. So, like everything else the networks do, their promos are designed to appeal to a mass audience. The "24" ad you are referring to likely was to appeal to different tastes- those who like the DiD factor, those who like action shows, those who like blondes, those that really don't think much of bondage but might be intrigued, those that get off on tape gags, etc. It seems simplistic to say every b/g clip is only there to appeal to the obviously small fetish audience. |
| Walt Whitman |
| Friday January 03 15:11:43 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
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> I KNEW there was some reason I put a "wry smile and a > wink" emoticon right after that line ... 0:) Ohh..sorry, I didn't get that. Ladidah, ladidah, ladidah. Ladidah. ladidah. ladidah. Can I post now?..let's try |
| Per |
| Friday January 03 15:13:05 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
| >... and "Masterpiece" that debuted on HBO Latina last
> night was an incredible flick the female lead spends > almost all of the film in bondage, and is gagged a > couple of times, too. It was a Spanish language version > of "Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down!" ;> > I have to say I was somewhat disappointed in this scene. For me, it fell under the category of "having all the elements of a great scene, but still not liking it". The primary reason was that Ariadna Gil looked a little too much like Susan Powter. You may remember her as the loud, high-strung, nervous energy, buzz-cut diet-pitchperson from about five years ago that used to scream at people to eat pounds and pounds of vegetables every day to lose weight. Maybe it was the face, maybe it was the hair, but I couldn't get the image of crazy vegetable lady out of my head! |
| MadFish |
| Friday January 03 15:26:05 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
| Or, in other words:
If you just want to make a short comment, the new system could be a problem IMHO. The quoted material in this case was one sentence. But I was told "Quoted material is XX % of the post that is unacceptable" etc etc.. I am not so sure this is a good idea. |
| Per |
| Friday January 03 15:45:04 2003 Re: CASE FILE added |
| > Betty and Veronica from ARCHIE'S WEIRD MYSTERIES "Little
> Chock'Lit Shoppe of Horrors" > It fugures that Dilton Doiley would be a putz in that scene. |
| Reggie |
| Friday January 03 18:06:32 2003 TV series promos w/ & w/o Gags |
| > You need to keep in mind that most of the population (male and female) aren't as into gags as most of us here. I just don't think that the producers (or whoever makes the promos) have the idea that "we'll get a bigger audience tuning in if we show the young lady gagged".
-------------- Agreed. Another example is from the T.J. Hooker promos. For Heather Locklear's first three b&g episodes, the clip included a shot of her wearing her Gag. But for "Obsession", her most remarkable misadventure, the promo only showed a shot of Officer Sheridan seated awkwardly on the forest's grounds, apparently cuffed, with the angry girlfriend threatening to shoot her. I would've only set my VCR and not bothered to stay up to watch its 11:30PM airing live, had not TV Guide magazine described the episode as "Stacey is taken captive by bank robbers." |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday January 03 20:11:46 2003 TV Promos |
| Interesting thread.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned.. and I think this is especially relevant since so many previews and promos are such MTV style edited affairs.. ie, you just about have to watch them in slow motion to be sure of what you've been shown. The one thing that a gag in a promo most definitely gets across is that "This girl is in trouble!" Ropes in most tv shows and movies is so minimal and so lame, its very probable that the viewer won't even be able to see she's bound in a preview.. but they will see that gag. Gag equals= Girl in Danger. And since previews are meant to convey a quick idea of action or plot that will make you want to tune in or buy your ticket, that quick gag shot tells you..the girls in trouble, the hero will be riding to the rescue.. how will she escape.. Things of that nature. When you think of it..in the case of a tv show, especially if its the recurring female lead.. How many other images, with but a single frame of film..the heroine gagged.. can give you that much of an idea of the storyline to be shown that next week?? And I too am hopeful for John Doe. The killer is supposed to be setting a trap for a very worthy adversary with the lady cop as the bait. He gagged both of his previous female victims..even a girl trapped inside a glass tank. So "go ahead and scream" would not be in character here.. and damn it, Jayne is WAY overdue! <G> |
| David Knight |
| http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com |
| Friday January 03 20:16:12 2003 Re: John Doe |
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> "The quotes made up 75.86% of your post, which is not > acceptable." > > This came up even though I only included the LAST > SENTENCE from the original post. Looks like no more one > or two word replies. Oh darn. Frankly, I don't see it as being much of a problem. People will adjust to the system, and no more posts will be deleted for violation of the rules. |
| The Moderator |
| Friday January 03 20:17:35 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
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> Ladidah, ladidah, ladidah. > Ladidah. ladidah. ladidah. > Can I post now?..let's try Did you read what I said about padding posts with nonsense? I can still delete posts, same as before. |
| The Moderator |
| Friday January 03 20:20:08 2003 Re: Killing Me Softly |
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> If you just want to make a short comment, the new system > could be a problem IMHO. > I am not so sure this is a good idea. Some people should be grateful that they are allowed to post at all. |
| The Moderator |
| Friday January 03 20:43:51 2003 Re: TV Promos |
| > The one thing that a gag in a promo most definitely gets
> across is that "This girl is in trouble!" Ropes in most > tv shows and movies is so minimal and so lame, its very > probable that the viewer won't even be able to see she's > bound in a preview.. but they will see that gag. Gag > equals= Girl in Danger. And since previews are meant to > convey a quick idea of action or plot that will make you > want to tune in or buy your ticket, that quick gag shot > tells you..the girls in trouble, the hero will be riding > to the rescue.. how will she escape.. Things of that > nature. > Exactly. Promos with bondage in them are almost always about the suspense factor, not so much the bondage itself. The actual bondage is often an afterthought in the scheme of things, which is a part explanation to the very fake looking scenes that often occur. Getting the ropework right isn't a very high priority for anyone trying to appeal to a mass audience. |
| Walt H. Whitman |
| Friday January 03 22:06:16 2003 Commercial Breakdown |
| I watched several advertisement with bondage / bdsm scenes on "Commercial Breakdown" (BBC), but I don't know the title /countries:
1. In a GSM / Cellphone advertisement from Netherland (?) During inspection on a Prison, an old lady was caught carrying cellphone. She was handcuffed AOH and searched, when another cellphone ring. 2. In a Postal Service advertisement (Posten - Sweden?) A college student came home to suprise his parent. Unfortunately he stumble into his parent secret BDSM / Bondage game. Anyone recognize the advertisement / country? |
| asian |
| http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_375251.html?menu= |
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