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Friday January 10 00:04:24 2003
FUZZWEB
Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring DANGEROUS CURVES, THE GONG SHOW & GENERAL HOSPITAL. The poll booth has been reset for the next vote. I also added some soaps to the poll. Enjoy
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.org
Friday January 10 00:49:32 2003
Re: THE RIFLEMAN
>
>
> I've just done some work on the series' DB entries. BTW,
> "Lou Mallory" should be coming up soon on THE HALLMARK
> CHANNEL, as it appears the eps are airing in original
> order.
>
I checked the Hallmark Website, and the ep Lou Mallory will air on 1/20/03 two times 1-2pm PST & 11pm-12am PST
MWil888876@msn.com
Friday January 10 00:51:08 2003
Re: Unintended consequences
Received this via email:

I just drafted a reasonably long reply to a posted message. As is my habit, I trimmed the bulk of the irrelevant material (as you have repeatedly asked us to do), then typed my couple of dozen lines of reply *below*... HOWEVER, as is also my habit (& is not an uncommon practice) I typed "{Snip}" above the retained material to let the reader know that something *had* been deleted.

Imagine my distress when I hit the send button & got a message telling me I had drafted an "annoying" top-down reply! Further, the back button sent me to an expired screen & retry gave me a "virgin" reply screen. In other words, my reply was *gone.*

The least you can do is put "POST NOTHING ABOVE THE RETAINED MATERIAL" in the instructions.

I can try to tweak the post analysis some. I won't bother to add anything to the instructions, if people followed those there wouldn't be any software in the first place.

I may be able to do something with the Expired business, and rebuild the post form.


The Moderator
Friday January 10 01:41:30 2003
Re: without a trace
> tonights show is about a very cute teen that gets
> abducted

I only saw the last 20 minutes, but there was a scene right at the end. A young teenage girl is briefly shown bound and tapegagged in the trunk of an old car in an abandaned garage on some backwoods property.

From what I could gather, two girls were abducted. Only the the one found in the trunk came out of the ordeal alive, unfortunately.

KEVIN
Friday January 10 02:02:57 2003
Re: without a trace
> I only saw the last 20 minutes, but there was a scene
> right at the end. A young teenage girl is briefly shown
> bound and tapegagged in the trunk of an old car in an
> abandaned garage on some backwoods property.

Even for a show that's never likely to produce much (since we never see any more than the investigators do), I'd say tonight's scene counts as a "blink." Don't anyone fret if you missed it.


Raffish
Friday January 10 02:57:13 2003
quoting problem
>Posting the comment upside down.

When I try to post and put the quotation mark ">" in the middle of my post, I received error / warning message.
Is it possible to eliminate this problem?
asian
Friday January 10 03:03:18 2003
Re: without a trace
>
> Even for a show that's never likely to produce much
> (since we never see any more than the investigators do),
> I'd say tonight's scene counts as a "blink." Don't
> anyone fret if you missed it.

It is beyond me how these shows, "Trace", both "CSIs" even "Jag," (doing every other episode on terrorism) are ratings winners. They're so depressing and borderline disgusting. It's actually refreshing watching the lame plots on "She Spies."
Brian W.
Friday January 10 06:37:40 2003
The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
I read the heroine in the latest remake of " The Hound of the Baskervilles " is found dead by hanging instead of being left bound and gagged to a post ( alive ) as she was in the original story.

Can anyone verify this ? If it's true, it's an unrequired downer to one of the great storys.
Herro
Friday January 10 08:30:16 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
> I read the heroine in the latest remake of " The Hound of
> the Baskervilles " is found dead by hanging instead of
> being left bound and gagged to a post ( alive ) as she
> was in the original story.
>
> Can anyone verify this ? If it's true, it's an unrequired
> downer to one of the great storys.

Unfortunately this is correct. The show itself is a major letdown.

Some good old british arrogance on the parts on the makers who through they could improve on Conan Doyle's orginal.
steve a
Friday January 10 09:46:53 2003
Primal Instinct
Anyone encountered something called _Primal Instinct_? It seems to have an alternate title, _Love.com_.

The description I found refers to "the brutal and mysterious world of underground online sex and bondage." IMDB has two reviews saying it's a horrible movie, but that's about it.

Thanks,
Pat
Patrick
pat512@yahoo.com
Friday January 10 10:49:49 2003
Mentioning Website on DB?
On entry #3924 ("Level 9") someone mention Binder website.
On entry #7716 someone also mentioned another website address. Is this allowed?
Friday January 10 10:54:31 2003
Re: without a trace
> I only saw the last 20 minutes, but there was a scene
> right at the end. A young teenage girl is briefly shown
> bound and tapegagged in the trunk of an old car in an
> abandaned garage on some backwoods property.
>

With tonight's guaranteed scene in Hack, that will make 3 straight nights with a B&G actress (Twilight Zone on Wed). Could be a first.



Friday January 10 11:01:54 2003
Re: without a trace
> With tonight's guaranteed scene in Hack, that will make 3
> straight nights with a B&G actress (Twilight Zone on
> Wed). Could be a first.

Man, if there had been ANYTHING on Tuesday's prime time lineup it would have meant a full M-F lineup with B&G scenes, since CSI Miami had a scene on Monday night.






Pat Powers
Friday January 10 11:09:21 2003
Re: without a trace
> Man, if there had been ANYTHING on Tuesday's prime time
> lineup it would have meant a full M-F lineup with B&G
> scenes, since CSI Miami had a scene on Monday night.
>

If Kristin Kreuk had been B&G on Smallville Tuesday it would have been a Royal Flush.



Friday January 10 11:45:02 2003
Re: FUZZWEB
> Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring
> DANGEROUS CURVES, THE GONG SHOW

I could have done without seeing Jaye P Morgan and Jamie Farr B&G back to back. Yuck.
K
Friday January 10 12:00:03 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
> Some good old british arrogance on the parts on the
> makers who through they could improve on Conan Doyle's orginal.

Oh Tosh
Lord Percy Hayes
Friday January 10 13:28:24 2003
Re: without a trace
> > With tonight's guaranteed scene in Hack, that will make
> 3
> > straight nights with a B&G actress (Twilight Zone on
> > Wed). Could be a first.
>
> Man, if there had been ANYTHING on Tuesday's prime time
> lineup it would have meant a full M-F lineup with B&G
> scenes, since CSI Miami had a scene on Monday night.

I recall there were shows and movies with female bondage scenes on five consecutive days of television during the summer of 1993. All of the actresses were bound and gagged. I remember that one of them was the movie "Cold Steel", in which Sharon Stone is bound and gagged at a construction site.
Hadji
Friday January 10 13:28:29 2003
Re: without a trace
> > With tonight's guaranteed scene in Hack, that will make
> 3
> > straight nights with a B&G actress (Twilight Zone on
> > Wed). Could be a first.
>
> Man, if there had been ANYTHING on Tuesday's prime time
> lineup it would have meant a full M-F lineup with B&G
> scenes, since CSI Miami had a scene on Monday night.

I recall there were shows and movies with female bondage scenes on five consecutive days of television during the summer of 1993. All of the actresses were bound and gagged. I remember that one of them was the movie "Cold Steel", in which Sharon Stone is bound and gagged at a construction site.
Hadji
Friday January 10 13:32:33 2003
Re: without a trace
>it
> would have been a Royal Flush.


Royal Flush, ehh?

G-MaN, where are you?????????

Please get a new ISP provider and get that Rerun Theater up and running again before I die!!

And no machine, it was NOT "the annoying "top-posted" style". I just forgot to add an ">" before the "it"!



Per
Friday January 10 13:56:33 2003
Re: FUZZWEB
> > Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring
> > DANGEROUS CURVES, THE GONG SHOW
>
> I could have done without seeing Jaye P Morgan and Jamie
> Farr B&G back to back. Yuck.

Call up the "Dangerous Curves" segment and you'll likely forget about it quickly. This is one case where even the great caps can't do justice to the scene. One of the best of all-time.

Brian W.
Friday January 10 14:11:04 2003
Re: Bridgette Wilson
> Does anyone know of any scenes featuring Bridgette
> Wilson?

I know of Mortal Kombat.
Not full treatment, but still decent.


None Ya 9441
Friday January 10 15:01:47 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
> Some good old british arrogance on the parts on the
> makers who through they could improve on Conan Doyle's orginal.

There is plenty of that same arrogance among American film makers and TV producers on this side of "the pond" as well.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday January 10 18:01:55 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?

> There is plenty of that same arrogance among American
> film makers and TV producers

Same thing--previously bound and gagged lady ends up dead--in the third remake of "This Gun for Hire." Maybe they think that makes the villain more evil.


Paul
Friday January 10 18:29:51 2003
Spanish show?
Did anything pan out in today's El Juego de la Vida on Univision? I set me VCR but forgot to set the channel on the cable box! (So I have a nice hour of recorded static..yay!)
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Friday January 10 18:34:10 2003
Diagnosis Murder
I was watching a two-hour long special episode of "Diagnosis Murder" recently, one that featured the Masked Magician and his comely, scantily clad assistants. The villain was trying to murder the magician while he was performing immensely dangerous magic tricks.
I left sometime during the middle of the first hour to use the bathroom, and missed part of the show. When I returned, Dick Van Dyke, who plays the sleuthing main character, mentioned that one of the magician's assistants was found bound and gagged during an attempt on the magician's life.
I was, of course, dismayed at having missed seeing a gorgeous, scantily clad woman bound and gagged. Did anyone happen to watch this program, and if so, could you please tell me whether such a bondage scene actually took place?
Hadji
Friday January 10 18:47:53 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
> > I read the heroine in the latest remake of " The Hound
> of
> > the Baskervilles " is found dead by hanging instead of
>
> > being left bound and gagged to a post ( alive ) as she
>
> > was in the original story.

>
> Unfortunately this is correct. The show itself is a major
> letdown.
>
> Some good old british arrogance on the parts on the
> makers who through they could improve on Conan Doyle's orginal.


Thanks for your reply. Well, that takes the cake ! Killing off the major female figure in the story, instead of leaving her to rescued by the good guys.... Why the hell do idiots think they can improve on the perfect by screwing with the plots of classics ?

I suppose they stuffed up the bog scenes too ?
Herro
Friday January 10 19:13:56 2003
Re: Spanish show?
> Did anything pan out in today's El Juego de la Vida on
> Univision?

Nothing for Gina, the unwitting villainess, who was tied up during yesterday's episode after being captured by Juan Carlos, the boyfriend of kidnap victim Lorena. When last seen she was tied up but I'm not sure of her current status.

However, Lorena (pretty brunette Sara Maldonado) finally had a short tieup scene today after being captured during her latest escape attempt.

I'll be posting more details and a cap at my page as soon as I get a chance which should be soon.

Also there is a regular Satuday morning "Resumen Especial" (English: Special Summary) edition of El Juega De La Vida at 11 AM on Univision which is a 2 hour summary of recent events. I'd rate Gina's scene as a higher chance to be replayed during that show since it involved a major plot turn whereas Lorena's scene was filler (for the average viewer of course not for us).

Lorena is still held captive by Fabian and he has finally started doing something concrete about the escape attempts so there could be more in the next two weeks. The "Gran Final" is on Thursday, January 23.

Philly Ed
philly_ed@yahoo.com
Friday January 10 19:26:00 2003
Interesting News

HOLLYWOOD (Zap2it.com) Hollywood beauties Halle Berry and Penelope Cruz are teaming up to star in the dramatic thriller "Gothika".

The film centers on a female psychiatrist (Berry) who wakes up as a patient in the asylum for the criminally insane where she works and finds that she is being charged with a murder she has no memory of committing. As she wrestles to regain her memory, she finds that she is the pawn of a vengeful spirit. Cruz plays Chloe, a charismatic yet deranged patient at the facility.
---------------------------------------------------------

Looks like there might be heavy restraint action for both.
Friday January 10 19:37:22 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
>
> > There is plenty of that same arrogance among American
> > film makers and TV producers
>
> Same thing--previously bound and gagged lady ends up
> dead--in the third remake of "This Gun for Hire." Maybe
> they think that makes the villain more evil.

However, there was no tie-up scene in the book, so
arguing about that is pretty fruitless. Both are
deviations, so neither is more correct than the other.

Brian R
Friday January 10 19:40:46 2003
Re: quoting problem
> >Posting the comment upside down.
>
> When I try to post and put the quotation mark ">" in the
> middle of my post, I received error / warning message.
> Is it possible to eliminate this problem?

Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
Don't do that.


Seriously, the only way that would be a problem is if
it was at the beginning of a line. So don't do that.


The Moderator
Friday January 10 19:40:53 2003
Re: Spanish show?
> > Did anything pan out in today's El Juego de la Vida on
> > Univision?

Cap and more details about the scene at the link below.


Philly Ed
philly_ed@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com/vcralert/alerts1.html
Friday January 10 19:41:53 2003
Re: without a trace

> It is beyond me how these shows, "Trace", both "CSIs"
> even "Jag," (doing every other episode on terrorism) are
> ratings winners.

This is off-topic. This is not a TV discussion group,
the relative merits of shows is not germane.

Anything further will be deleted.
The Moderator
Friday January 10 19:44:33 2003
Re: Mentioning Website on DB?
> On entry #3924 ("Level 9") someone mention Binder
> website.
> On entry #7716 someone also mentioned another website
> address. Is this allowed?


No, it's not. I do periodic sweeps for that sort of
thing. Reminder, all questions, comments, updates, problems
etc. concerning the Database should be posted to the
Database Corrections page. That keep discussion focused
there.

Brian R
Friday January 10 19:45:29 2003
Re: without a trace
> It is beyond me how these shows, "Trace", both "CSIs"
> even "Jag," are ratings winners.
>

JAG is certainly a loser with us. Have they had anything close to a DinD scene in the last couple of years? I stopped watching or caring a long time ago.
BK
Friday January 10 19:45:33 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?

> However, there was no tie-up scene in the book, so
> arguing about that is pretty fruitless. Both are
> deviations, so neither is more correct than the other.
>

Strange. I remember reading in the novel version how she's found bound to a post with bedsheets and gagged by Holmes and Watson.

Herro
Friday January 10 20:15:17 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
>
> > However, there was no tie-up scene in the book, so
> > arguing about that is pretty fruitless. Both are
> > deviations, so neither is more correct than the other.
> >
>
> Strange. I remember reading in the novel version how
> she's found bound to a post with bedsheets and gagged by
> Holmes and Watson.

She's actually completely encased by bedsheets. She is described as being "so swathed and muffled" that the detectives initially have trouble discerning her identity.


Hadji
Friday January 10 20:18:39 2003
Deviations from novels
> > However, there was no tie-up scene in the book, so arguing about that is pretty fruitless. Both are deviations, so neither is more correct than the other.
> >
> Strange. I remember reading in the novel version how she's found bound to a post with bedsheets and gagged by Holmes and Watson.
-----------
If you re-read the previous post, he was referring to a recent movie re-make of "This Gun For Hire".

In the Doyle's "Hound of the Baskersville", Mrs. Stapleton is of course, Gagged. IMHO, it's one thing to make alterations to a "This Gun for Hire", but changing the Sherlock Holmes mysteries (which have enthralled millions of readers worldwide for a hundred years, and which some can recite virtually verbatim) is almost as "serious" as changing the plots of Shakespeare, and still utilizing its same title.

Yes, I know that the Basil Rathbone movies portrayed Dr. Watson as a buffoon (which I found a particularly annoying alteration).
Kinky-napper
Friday January 10 20:34:36 2003
Generalized Stargate SG-1 Alert (kinda)!!!
GET THEE TO A NEWSSTAND!!!

...& get yourself a copy of "Xposé" magazine, Issue #75 (see image below.) Note: my copy says "#74" on the cover but "#75" on the *inside* & the web site claims it's #75. Go figure.

Anyhoo... "Why, Van?" you might ask? "Page 44!" Van might answer. "Page 44?" you might ask. "Yeah," Van might answer, "'cause it's... A FULL PAGE COLOR PHOTO OF AMANDA TAPPING (Major Carter) BOUND HAND & FOOT & TAPE-GAGGED!!!" Van might answer. "Details!" you might demand. "She's dressed in olive drab BDUs, combat boots, & black harness/vest; black tape over her lips, ankles together, wrists behind her back, & she's in the middle of a grassy field with trees in the background... full sun," Van might respond.

So... now we gotta keep a keen eye on *Stargate SG-1*! The article is an interview with two of the show's writers. I haven't read it yet, but a quick scan yields no info about which episode the image might be from. It *looks* like a publicity photo, one of those "behind the scenes" things... & IT'S NICE!!! :-)
http://www.visimag.com/xpose/images/x75_cover.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.visimag.com/xpose/x75_display.htm
Friday January 10 20:53:56 2003
Re: Diagnosis Murder
> episode that featured the Masked Magician and his comely, > scantily clad assistants. Dick Van Dyke mentioned that
> one of the magician's assistants was found bound and
> gagged.

I watched this some time ago, and if I recall correctly, this was not shown but only talked about. Otherwise I would have kept the tape as my special interest is female escape artists and assistants in bondage.
Rich McGill
Friday January 10 22:21:27 2003
Fastlane - January 17 episode
> The TV Guide magazine description for its January 17 episode: "Billie [Tiffani Thiessen] gets in on the action and goes undercover to cuff a sexy, sadistic thief (Jaime Pressly) who's behind a rash of home-invasion attacks on rich lesbians. George Hamilton appears in a cameo.
> Jill: Colleen Porch.
---------------
Unfortunately, I didn't see any hint of bondage in the trailer aired at the end of the January 10 episode. I'd been hoping that the scriptwriters had been taking notes from the adventures of the "Rogue Cat Burglar" (which had been one of the TV series described at Van's site, I believe).
Kinky-napper
Friday January 10 22:22:38 2003
Hack/John Doe
Full treatment on Hack tonight. DiD's name is Rebecca Lisak. Not beautiful, but cute. She's B&G inside an RV, lying on a bed hands tied overhead to ceiling and wide strip of duct tape over mouth. Some nice writhing and great sobbing/mmmmpphhhing.
There are two full treatment scenes. One is very brief and occurs before the half hour mark (didn't catch exact). The second is longer, and occurs around the 35 minute mark.
There is also a scene near the end when Hack meets with the kidnapper and DiD. Her hands are bound behind; there is no gag.

No full treatment on John Doe. Early on is the scene where her hands are bound by tape and she breaks free. Her hands are retaped.
There are several lengthy scenes throughout the show, but never a hint the abductor even thought about gagging her.
LV
Friday January 10 22:24:10 2003
Re: Hack/John Doe
I should mention I was switching back & forth, but I'm sure I didn't miss anything consequential.
LV
Friday January 10 23:15:33 2003
Re: Hack/John Doe
> I should mention I was switching back & forth, but I'm
> sure I didn't miss anything consequential.

Most of what I saw consisted of her sitting in a chair with her hands behind her back. I was glad to see her hands behind her back, but not a lot of shots of her bonds. And not much writhing or evidence of distres on the damsel's apart. Hack wins, hands down.
Pat Powers
Friday January 10 23:31:34 2003
Tonight's Hack Scenes; A Good Show
LV described tonight's Hack scenes accurately. He did not miss anything. Overall, I would say that the episode's scenes were a pretty solid effort, particularly the longer scene in the middle of the episode. That scene had good struggling, great mmmphing and genuine suspense. A good show all around: writers, director, and the actress playing the damsel. Further, at the beginning of the episode we saw a picure of the damsel B&G'd, a nice touch.

Also, the scene longer scene demonstrated the value of a gag in an urban setting quite nicely. When the local cops came up the the RV/motor home, the damsel was mmmphing quite loudly. The evil captor turned on his stero and the music effectively drowned out the mmphing. If the damsel had not been gaged the evil captor's using loud music tp prevent the damsel's rescue likely would not have worked, because the music probably would not have drowned out intelligible cries for help as effectively as it had unintelligible mmphing. All evil captors should heed this lesson.

In addition, while the episode's script contained those dreaded words, "Scream all you want. No one can hear you," these words came as part of a brief hand cuff scene involving a putz. Note to writers: if you must use those dreaded words, put them in a putz scene (if you have to have a putz scene). I am sure no one here would mind.

Finally, as I feared, tonight's John Doe scene lacked gaggage. I can't say that I am surprised. I know i made the right choice by concentrating on Hack. Thanks for posting the alert about Hack.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Friday January 10 23:41:41 2003
Re: The lady gets it in Sherlock Holmes ?
> > I read the heroine in the latest remake of " The Hound
> of
> > the Baskervilles " is found dead by hanging instead of
>
> > being left bound and gagged to a post ( alive ) as she
>
> > was in the original story.
> >
> Unfortunately this is correct. The show itself is a major
> letdown.
>
> Some good old british arrogance on the parts on the
> makers who through they could improve on Conan Doyle's
> orginal.

A major, major Boo Hoo! It sounds like another classic case of DAWS and DADS, with some arrogance thrown in. But then, DAWS and DADS go well with arrogance don't they? These problems seem to be becoming an epidemic on both sides of the Atlantic!

Maybe we should take a page out of sportscaster Warner Wolf's book and create the Boo Hoo of the Week for lame scenes. (Warner used to do the Boo of the Week.)
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com

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