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Wednesday January 15 00:38:29 2003
why not, Man Show?
How come "The Man Show" has never had an episode with a bound and gagged woman? You would think it would be right up their alley.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 00:49:19 2003
Blue Murder Season Premier
Anyone else catch the clip for Fridays Blue Murder (global in Canada)? A cute girl with a cloth around her neck and apparantly has hands tied. Is this scene part of the season premier?
Wednesday January 15 01:19:26 2003
Re: Reminder
> "Do feed the trolls."
If you say so, Mod-man. =)
J65
Wednesday January 15 04:49:43 2003
Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE??

> > Masters and Johnson found that 90% of men and about 50%
>
> > of women surveyed were turned on by bondage--and those
>

We have an urban legend in the making here. They found no such thing as far as I can find. Cite a reference if you have one.
Wednesday January 15 07:33:45 2003
Re: older actresses?
> A question about older actresses and the "full"
> treatment.
> Is there a time when an actress reaches a certan age
> (late 40's and beyond)when the desire factor is no longer
> there.
> Case in point, is there a strong hope that Glenn Close,
> Meryl Streep, or a Stephanie Zimbalist (etc.) will still
> get bound and gagged. And what would be the circumstance
> for the scene.
>

Well Sigourney Weaver was nearly 50 when she did Copycat and thats one of my favorite scenes, so yeah I'd want to see those actresses mentioned B&G, as well as many others over 40.


Wednesday January 15 07:45:22 2003
Re: Damsels waking up in bondage
Joanna Going in Columbo:"No Time to Die"
Paula Irvine in Phantasm II
Lise Cutter in Dangerous Curves:"Death By Chocolate"
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/joannagoing.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/paulairvine.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/cgg3/lisecutter.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Wednesday January 15 08:13:04 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
> How come "The Man Show" has never had an episode with a
> bound and gagged woman? You would think it would be right
> up their alley.

Darned good question. Three potential answers:

1) The Man Show is under a lot of scrutiny from hostile eyes -- a lot of women think it's a bastion of sexist piggery. Given all the guff they take for their unabashed male-type interest in women, they don't wanna hand their critics a new talking point with a bondage scene.

2) They're interested in being perceived as "regular guys" and they feel that while SOME guys may be interested in tying women up, REGULAR guys aren't.

3) They just haven't gotten around to it yet, which implies a certain disinterest in the topic on their part.

I would tend to go for some kind of amalgam of explanation 2 and 3.
Pat Powers
Wednesday January 15 08:29:45 2003
Re: 24
> I think three women right now have their hands
> restrained--Nina, Kim, handcuffed and on her way back to
> LA, and Kate. Kim's wearing a cute outfit this season, too.

I think this may be a first. I didnt' catch all of the ep, but it appeared to be the case that three different female characters were in bondage in three separate storylines -- three different reasons, right? Obviously there have been cases of mass bondage before, or cop shows where three different female characters might be cuffed in an investigation or a psycho might kidnap three different women. But that would be just one storyline.

Has there been a TV show where three women were in bondage in three different storylines before?

Pat Powers
Wednesday January 15 08:55:15 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
> > How come "The Man Show" has never had an episode with a
>
> > bound and gagged woman?
> Darned good question. Three potential answers:
>
Here's a fourth: Corrola and Kimmel are idiots. Come on guys, show us B&G girl on a trampoline!


Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Wednesday January 15 09:01:34 2003
Thanks--and another question!
I appreciate all this info about the wake-up scenes. I would like to know which of these scenes involve damsels who are clad in at least somewhat skimpy attire--halter tops,shorts,miniskirts,bathing suits,bikinis,etc. Once again,thanks for all the titles!
gytalf2000
Wednesday January 15 09:09:15 2003
Sexiest Looking?
Which actresses do you think looked the sexiest in their DiD scenes?
Wednesday January 15 10:15:50 2003
Re: Blue Murder Season Premier
> Anyone else catch the clip for Fridays Blue Murder
> (global in Canada)? A cute girl with a cloth around her
> neck and apparantly has hands tied. Is this scene part of
> the season premier?

Could be. Thanks for the heads up. Some Canadian drama series like Blue Murder and Cold Squad have been absolute busts DinD-wise so hopefully BM is turning a corner.
Canuck
Wednesday January 15 10:17:38 2003
Re: Damsels waking up in bondage
> Jodi Lyn O'Keefe in "Nash Bridges: The Great Escape".

Unique in that she went to sleep already B&G.

Wednesday January 15 10:19:47 2003
Re: Smallville
> Nothing on Smallville tonight (pretty good episode if you
> like the show though) they missed the absolute golden
> opportunity to have Lana B&G'd

Could you elaborate on that?
JK
Wednesday January 15 11:01:14 2003
Re: Damsels waking up in bondage
> > Jodi Lyn O'Keefe in "Nash Bridges: The Great Escape".
>
> Unique in that she went to sleep already B&G.

Not so unique. Lise Cutter's *Death By Chocolate* also features a wake-up call. (I really love that episode. Lise's character has a great "Feisty Damsel" thing going, & the "Good Professional in the hands of Bad Professionals" thing is good too.) :-)
http://bindherupx.net/cgg3/lisecutter.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
Wednesday January 15 11:20:42 2003
White Slavery Bondage
Possible inspiration for Vegas and Thoroughly Modern Millie
http://www.prevue.net/ebay/EPRIDET39_10.jpg
Wednesday January 15 11:26:08 2003
Re: Damsels waking up in bondage
Darlene Vogel in 'Pacific Blue' who, as a bonus, is tape-gagged while unconscious.

Of course, it's better when the DinD is cloroformed as opposed to being knocked out.

Wednesday January 15 11:33:59 2003
Stuff Gags
So much better (and effective) when a cleave is tied over it.
http://www.bindher.com/bullboard/daytime/oltlgag/oltlgag001.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/vegasd/vegasd09.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/vegasd/vegasd05.jpg
Binzer
Wednesday January 15 12:27:26 2003
Re: Stuff Gags
> So much better (and effective) when a cleave is tied over
> it.

But that soap girl is still a cute response to a gag, I don't care what anyone says. She looks shocked, humiliated and GOOD.
doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 12:52:48 2003
Re: Damsels waking up in bondage
> Joanna Going in Columbo:"No Time to Die"

This scene takes some beating, really, as Joanna has to be one of the most gorgeous actresses ever.
Also, she wakes up wearing a white tape gag (my favourite)and, in flashback, a hand, then a chloroform pad, is placed over her mouth and lastly there is some brilliant eye rolling as she passes out, which is all too rare.
Just about as good as it gets...



Gaz
Wednesday January 15 13:03:56 2003
Thoughts on "24"
Please don't get me wrong, I love "24" and it's added bonus they feature so many scenes, particularly with Nina and Kim being cuffed. My only complaint would be that they very seldom show the actresses bound. I wish they could show a close-up now and then of the characters arms being restrained by the rope and handcuffs. In the last show we knew Kate was tied up but there was only a brief shot of her actual hands tied when she was leaving the room. Minor complaint but I just wanted to vent.
Viking
Wednesday January 15 13:08:31 2003
Re: Stargate
> > What *was* the context, btw? Did anything the article > I just love the isolation, the fact that no other cast or
> crew "contaminate" the frame.
This must be one of the best cap i have ever seen!! How can i blow it up to 800x600 size?, gotta have her on my desktop!
Hardtarget
Wednesday January 15 13:24:07 2003
Re: Sunday wrapup
> > I surmise that John Woo is a very successful director
> > because he knows exactly what guys want to see, namely
> attractive women bound and gagged.

Nope dude. My man Woo are into extreme shotgun blues not bondage of what i can recall. And to make the violence as pretty and stylish as he did in ....guess! Well i looked good didnt i? Since then it have gone downhills for him, i think. Windtalkers wtf?????
Hardtarget
Wednesday January 15 13:31:20 2003
Re: "TCM 2003"
however I read that they are going for a "SCREAM' type
movie. I am keeping my fingures crossed.
Unbelivable! Remake of a film from 1973 Hollywood must be braindead. Im quite sure this one will be put in the shower with the psycho remake.


Hardtarget
Wednesday January 15 13:58:29 2003
Re: Thanks--and another question!
> I appreciate all this info about the wake-up scenes. I
> would like to know which of these scenes involve damsels
> who are clad in at least somewhat skimpy attire--halter
> tops,shorts,miniskirts,bathing suits,bikinis,etc. Once
> again,thanks for all the titles!

The Darlene Vogal scene mentioned in "Pacific Blue" is very good on all fronts. She's wearing a tight bicycle-cop outfit, black shorts, white shirt. Very underrated scene.

Plus, it was one of Vogal's last episodes before leaving the show. I was surprised she turned up bound and gagged in one of her last episodes after several near misses in the first couple of seasons.

Her career hasn't exactly taken off since, what with the gruesome scene in "CSI" last year in which she's in one quick scene, and shown gagged with duct tape being pulled out of the river. What a difference between the "Pacific Blue" scene.
Brian W.
Wednesday January 15 14:45:46 2003
Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
Okay, pretend your collection is gone and you can buy 5 mainstream movies from Amazom. The movies have to be mainstream (easily found and brought) and on DVD. What would your 5 be?

By the way, the women must be gagged.
Wednesday January 15 15:38:25 2003
site update
updated my site featuring:
* Tara Buckman in Misadventures of Sherrif Lobo
* Wendy Gardner, Diane Copeland, Lynda Alton in Mankillers
* unknown actresses in a foreign unknown series/movie
Emperor
http://people.mail2me.com.au/~ehatzvi/main.html
Wednesday January 15 16:20:24 2003
Re: Thoughts on "24"
> Please don't get me wrong, I love "24" and it's added bonus they feature so many scenes, particularly with Nina
and Kim being cuffed. <<


It was a bit annoying, though, to see Kim so conveniently bounds with cuffs that had the extra-long links between the cuffs. It seems these only -- amazingly -- turn up when it's vital for the character to be able to slip the cuffs from behind the back to the front (see Jennifer Lopez in "Out of Sight").
Wednesday January 15 16:21:34 2003
Macgyver scene
Now that TVLand is airing Macgyver I was hoping to catch a scene I've been after for a long time. I checked the database and there's no description of the scene I'm looking for - maybe someone can help me out? The scene: a pretty brunette dressed in military garb (much like the actress in the Stargate pic that's been displayed here many times on this page) is tied hands behind (no gag). They show her standing on the side of a moving truck while bound and Mac somehow manages to save her. They were on opposite sides but towards the end became allies so she is taken hostage/prisoner for betrayal.
Does this ring a bell? I don't really expect any details on this episode but maybe someone remembers this one and can tell me if it's one of the earlier or later episodes.
Wednesday January 15 16:40:36 2003
Re: Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
> Okay, pretend your collection is gone and you can buy 5
> mainstream movies from Amazom. The movies have to be
> mainstream (easily found and brought) and on DVD. What
> would your 5 be?
>

Interesting spin on the "sameoldsameold" kind of question... (what's your favorite scene). Anyway, first ones I thought of AREN'T easily available ---
1. Invasion of the Girl Snatchers
2. Incredible 2 Head Transplant (although it HAS shown
up on TV - (AMC movie classics) - several times lately
3. Nightmare Inn
4. Midnight Fear
5. Il Vicino di Casa

Otherwise (what is probably available):
1. Bound
2. The Abductors/Ginger/series
3. Deadly Lessons
4. Blind Witness
5. Kill Kill Overkill

(Those are the FIRST ones I thought of... but, I'm sure some better ones were forgotten).

For my question now... The DYNASTY scenes with Linda Evans were great, underrated scenes that went on for a long time. Dynasty is presently being rerun on Soapnet cable channel. Anyone know when/what season these scenes appeared on the show? Is Soapnet close to running them again?
no trekkie
Wednesday January 15 16:46:29 2003
Re: Stuff Gags

> don't care what anyone says. She looks shocked,
> humiliated and GOOD.

Hell YEA !!!! ;-)
Alex Bond
Wednesday January 15 16:49:16 2003
Re: Thanks--and another question!

>
> The Darlene Vogal scene mentioned in "Pacific Blue" She's wearing a tight
> bicycle-cop outfit, black shorts, white shirt. Very
> underrated scene.

Is this the one where she is blindfolded and handgagged? thanks
Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Wednesday January 15 17:33:05 2003
Re: Pacific Blue
>
> >
> > The Darlene Vogal scene mentioned in "Pacific Blue"
> She's wearing a tight
> > bicycle-cop outfit, black shorts, white shirt. Very
> > underrated scene.
>
> Is this the one where she is blindfolded and
> handgagged? thanks

Think that was Paula Tricky of "Pacific Blue." Vogel was the blonde and was tied up several times, gagged once, but I don't recall any blindfolds for her.
Brian W.
Wednesday January 15 17:38:42 2003
Re: Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
> Okay, pretend your collection is gone and you can buy 5
> mainstream movies from Amazom. The movies have to be
> mainstream (easily found and brought) and on DVD. What
> would your 5 be?
>
> By the way, the women must be gagged.

Would start with Marisa Tomei in "The Watcher." The best mainstream movie scene from the past few years I can think of.
Brian W.
Wednesday January 15 18:52:23 2003
Re: "TCM 2003"
> however I read that they are going for a "SCREAM' type
> movie.

Put TCM 5 in google and you get the script. Don't know if it's final draft or even the real thing. At least 3 or 4 tie ups described of both girls, no gags. One described as head to toe rope like a mummy. Premise seems to be Blair Witch 2 copy, in that the kids know about the TCM legend as they dive through area. I hated the script; way too violent, no depth, nothing original. TCM, the original, is a great movie imho; saw the replay recently on IFC with director commentary; just great.
Wednesday January 15 18:54:12 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
> How come "The Man Show" has never had an episode with a
> bound and gagged woman?

It's interesting to note that one of the Juggies is a former bondage model. I don't know her name offhand, but she was one of the two winners in last year's "new Juggie" contest. She has modeled for FM Concepts.


Wednesday January 15 19:06:15 2003
Re: Macgyver scene
> Now that TVLand is airing Macgyver I was hoping to catch
> a scene I've been after for a long time. I checked the
> database and there's no description of the scene I'm
> looking for - maybe someone can help me out?

The scene is not in the database, but it seems the episode already is: It is from the episode "Obsessed" (7.3), so it's one of the latest.

> pretty brunette dressed in military garb (much like the
> actress in the Stargate pic that's been displayed here
> many times on this page) is tied hands behind (no gag).
> They show her standing on the side of a moving truck
> while bound and Mac somehow manages to save her.

Seems the point "dressed in military garb" is not true, but otherwise your scene description fits perfectly - this must be a unique situation in the series.

See the link for some vidcaps.
Peter de K
http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/McGyver/Aber_die_Leiche_fehlte/index.html.html
Wednesday January 15 19:16:52 2003
Movers
"Sometimes this job sure is fun!"
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/vegasb/vegasb01.jpg
Wednesday January 15 19:18:10 2003
Re: Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
> Okay, pretend your collection is gone and you can buy 5
> mainstream movies from Amazom. The movies have to be
> mainstream (easily found and brought) and on DVD. What
> would your 5 be?
>
> By the way, the women must be gagged.

Here are my favorites scenes. I have not included scenes that I have not seen (even if the vidcaps looks great.) I also did not include soap operas because they probably would not be available. I really don't know what's available on DVD and what's not. The movie serials might very well be available. I have also included my favorite TV scenes because some of these might be available on DVD as well.

I just know that there are some great scenes that I forgot to include!

Movie scenes:

Silent Scream - Rebecca Balding
Sidney Sheldon's Memories of Midnight - Jane Seymour
The Incredible Two-headed Transplant - Pat Priest
Blind Obsession - Megan Gallagher
Desperate Motive (aka Distant Cousins) - Mel Harris
Il Vicino di Casa - Laura Belli
Natural Born Killers - Corrinna Laszlo
East of Piccadilly - Judy Campbell
Blind Witness - Victoria Principal
Clay Pigeon - Barbara Hale
Man at Large - Marjorie Weaver
Savage Abduction - Tanis Galik, Kitty Vallacher
The Thirty-Nine Steps (1978) - Karen Dotrice
The Vampire Bat - Fay Wray



TV Scenes:

The Avengers: "Look (Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before) But There Were These Two Fellows - Linda Thorson
Wonder Woman: "The Starships Are Coming" - Lynda Carter
Martial Law: "End Game" - Kelly Hu
Early Edition: "Occasionally Amber" - Constance Marie
CHIPS: "The Game of War" - Sandra Kerns
The Man From U.N.C.L.E.: "The Brain Killer Affair" - Yvonne Craig
Hunter: "The Avenging Angel" -Stepfanie Kramer
Simon and Simon: "The Apple Doesn't Fall Far From the Tree" - Caren Kaye
Walker, Texas Ranger: "Lost Boys" - Ada Maris
The Adventures of Superman: "Night of Terror" - Phyllis Coates
Seven Days: "Rhino" - Justina Vail
I Love Lucy: "The Diet" - ?????
Lois and Clark: "Dead Lois Walking" - Teri Hatcher
Supertrain: "The Queen and the Improbable Knight" - Mary Louise Weller
The Invisible Man (Brit): "Death Cell" - Lana Morris
Spy Game: "With Friends Like This" - Allison Smith

Movie Serials:

Federal Agents vs. Underworld Inc. "ch.5/ch.6" - Rosemary La Plange
Haunted Harbor: "ch.9/ch.10" - Kay Aldridge
Daughter of Don Q: "ch.2/ch.3" -Lorna Gray
Daughter of Don Q: "ch.12" - Lorna Gray
Manhunt of Mystery Island: "ch.4/ch.5" - Linda Stirling
Manhunt of Mystery Island: "ch.12/ch.13" - Linda Stirling
The Purple Monster Strikes: "ch.7/ch.8" - Linda Stirling
Superman: "ch.9/ch.10" - Noel Neill




Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 19:25:53 2003
Re: Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
Sorry, I couldn't just pick 5!
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 19:31:42 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
> It's interesting to note that one of the Juggies is a
> former bondage model. I don't know her name offhand, but
> she was one of the two winners in last year's "new
> Juggie" contest. She has modeled for FM Concepts.

I am very familiar with the models of FM Concepts. Can you tell me any more information about her so that I might be able to identify her? What does she look like? Also, how did you find this out? I don't watch "The Man Show" regularly.




Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 19:47:35 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
> Can
> you tell me any more information about her

Regina Bartkowski?





Wednesday January 15 19:54:02 2003
Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
> Okay, pretend your collection is gone and you can buy 5 mainstream movies from Amazom. The movies have to be mainstream (easily found and brought) and on DVD. What would your 5 be?
>
By the way, the women must be gagged.
-------------------
* Story of O (1992 10-part Miniseries version).
* Story of O (1975). Only one scene w/ a gag, but that's enough to qualify.
* The Abductors
* The Collector
* Raiders of the Lost Ark. It's not "about" the bondage; it's just a classic movie.

Some other candidates (e.g., Perils of Gwendoline) are not available on DVD.
Kinky-napper
Wednesday January 15 19:56:35 2003
FUZZWEB
Mini update is complete. An announcement on the site and scans from ROBIN'S HOODS & AS THE WORLD TURNS. Enjoy....
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://www.fuzzweb.org/index.html
Wednesday January 15 20:02:50 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
> > Can
> > you tell me any more information about her
>
> Regina Bartkowski?

Regina Bartkowski was indeed a model for FM Concepts (I didn't know that she stopped.) Did they say her name on the show, or did you recognize her?

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 20:04:54 2003
Re: Damsels waking up in bondage

> LINDA THORSON bound and gagged in THE AVENGERS: absolutely priceless!

Yep, that's my ALL TIME FAV!



Wednesday January 15 20:23:09 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?


> didn't know that she stopped.) Did they say her name on
> the show, or did you recognize her?

this feels off topic so last post from me, but they did not say her name, it was her, and I believe she still models; Man Show is just another gig I'm sure.

Tonight Twilight Zone has a good plot, Stepford Wife kind of thing with pretty mom the last one to go. Don't know about Angel, previews not promising and on at the same time, 9PM EST.



Wednesday January 15 20:43:36 2003
Re: WHERE'S THE BONDAGE??

> We have an urban legend in the making here. They found
> no such thing as far as I can find. Cite a reference if
> you have one.


Let's not. This is off-topic for this page.



The Moderator
Wednesday January 15 20:53:01 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?

> this feels off topic so last post from me, but they did
> not say her name, it was her, and I believe she still
> models; Man Show is just another gig I'm sure.

That's a good feeling. Let's allow this subtopic to die.
The Moderator
Wednesday January 15 21:04:42 2003
Re: FUZZWEB
> Mini update is complete. An announcement on the site and
> scans from ROBIN'S HOODS & AS THE WORLD TURNS. Enjoy....

"Robin's Hoods" was a waste of a series. The show starred five hotties, including Linda Purl, who played the leader, but produced only one episode in which one of those hotties was bound and gagged.
The four younger actresses were all incredibly beautiful, but only one, Claire Yarlett, was ever bound and gagged. This is pathetic, considering the premise of the show, which was four hotties snooping around in an attempt to apprehend criminals.
I recall being frustrated nearly every week, when the hotties escaped being bound and gagged. The show lasted less than one season because of the stupidity of the writers and producers. Had they been a bit more streetwise and attuned to the desires of male viewers, they might've incorporated more scenes in which the hotties were bound and gagged. The show would've lasted at least three seasons if there were four or five episodes each season that included full treatment bondage for the female stars.
Hadji
Wednesday January 15 21:31:43 2003
Re: "TCM 2003"

> it's final draft or even the real thing. At least 3 or 4
> tie ups described of both girls, no gags.
That is OK someone will decide what tied up means and the odds are very good they will be gagged if they are tied up 4 times. Man I really want this one to come through that girl looks amazing in that photo.

Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Wednesday January 15 21:41:12 2003
Sweat and bondage
After seeing that TCM3 photo of the girl sweating I realized how much I like HOT i.e. cute girls sweating in bondage. I am sure this is something some will like more then otheres ,but off hand I can not think of to many scenes. Only that National Lampoon magazine cover with the girl on the movie set bound and gagged in a jungle setting. Now that I think of it a couple " Lost Worlds " episodes with Jennifer O dell have some sweat do they not ?
Alex Bond
http://www.sosbound.com
Wednesday January 15 21:48:00 2003
Re: Smallville
> > Nothing on Smallville tonight (pretty good episode if
> you
> > like the show though) they missed the absolute golden
> > opportunity to have Lana B&G'd
>
> Could you elaborate on that?

Last night's episode had a shape-changer as the "freak of the week" (their term for the guest character that Clark has to defeat). It started out as Lana's (Kristen Kreuk) boyfriend Whitney who had come home from the Marines. I think it needed to see the characters it changed into, because it changed into characters after having scenes with them several times. Anyway, at one point Whitney figured out "his" mother knew it really wasn't her son so he duct taped her to a chair and then taped her mouth on-screen when Clark showed up. They fought, he left, Clark freed the mother. Very short scene, woman in her late 40's or early 50's.

Clark went snooping around and got knocked out. Whitney then got some rope and tied Clark's hands behind him. He left Clark with Lana's kryptonite necklace and headed off to find Lana.

When next we see him, he's now in the form of Chloe (Alison Mack) and is in Lana's room. Lana was wearing just a bathrobe. Chloe acted kinda funny and at one point crept up behind Lana and lightly caressed her shoulders. It seemed like Lana knew it wasn't really Chloe. The scene ended (anticipation building here... what could be coming next???)

Next time we see Lana she's in her diner and Clark walks in. I figured that since the freak wanted to kill Clark that he had changed into the form of Lana (and had to tie her up so she wouldn't show up too). But no, a minute later here comes the real Clark. The two fought and the real one won. Show over.

What would've made perfect sense???

How about the guy tying and gagging Chloe before going out in public as her? He had no way to know if she would suddenly show up where he was. This wasn't critical to the plot, but certainly could have been done in the context of this plotline.

But what made absolute sense for the plot was for the guy to tightly tie and gag Lana when he was pretending to be Chloe. He wanted to kill Clark. how best to do that? Pretend to be Clark? NO! Pretend to be Lana! Then try to kill Clark when he's completely off-guard. And the only way to be sure of no interference is to have Lana bound and gagged. And if somehow Clark figured out it wasn't really Lana, the guy would still have had Lana as a hostage.

Instead, they tie up a putz and an older woman, leaving the two hotties unbound. Makes you wonder if the writers have ever read the comics. Heroes are supposed to save DAMSELS in distress. Why else would we need them?
chubby
Wednesday January 15 21:53:41 2003
Re: FUZZWEB
>
> "Robin's Hoods" was a waste of a series. The show starred
> five hotties, including Linda Purl, who played the
> leader, but produced only one episode in which one of
> those hotties was bound and gagged.
> The four younger actresses were all incredibly beautiful,
> but only one, Claire Yarlett, was ever bound and gagged.
> I recall being frustrated nearly every week, when the
> hotties escaped being bound and gagged. The show lasted
> less than one season because of the stupidity of the
> writers and producers.

Agreed, but the one scene was very good. I loved the outfit Claire was wearing: orange sweater, white pants, with a nice grab, handgag and drag into the closet. Also rare was the bad guy tying her hands and feet with duct tape, yet cleave-gagging her with a cloth. I guess he had everything handy in that closet.

Something went down on this show in mid-season because I remember Linda Purl left halfway through that first season and was replaced by Rick Springfield (really) for the last 6 to 8 episodes. I knew a second season wasn't coming.
Brian W.
Wednesday January 15 21:56:55 2003
Re: 24
> I think three women right now have their hands
> restrained--Nina, Kim, handcuffed and on her way back to
> LA, and Kate. Kim's wearing a cute outfit this season, too.

Next episode isn't until February. As last night's show ended only Nina remained in cuffs. Kim and Kate were both freed. Does anyone know if there are any further restraints for either Kim or Kate coming up?

Based on the plot so far, I can't see any reason why they'd have Kate tied up again. It would make more sense for the terrorists to kill her if they ever see her again. They don't need a hostage. And she has no love interest to use her against.

Kim is a total unknown. In an interview a few months ago she said she wasn't kidnapped again this year, but does that mean she won't be held captive? To me, those terms are different, so maybe they are to her too. She was last seen running off into the woods. Her boyfriend was headed for a local hospital, her dad was off to parts unknown, and the kid she was an au pair for was taken by child services, so what was there for her character to do? Only her dad was possibly in LA so she shouldn't be headed back toward the bomb. What will she do on her own? I'm hoping she stumbles across some criminal activity or a lonely recluse who's looking for a new wife and gets herself tied and gagged for the next fifteen episodes or so....
Pete R.
Wednesday January 15 22:06:54 2003
Re: Smallville
> Anyway, at one point Whitney
> figured out "his" mother knew it really wasn't her son so
> he duct taped her to a chair and then taped her mouth
> on-screen when Clark showed up. They fought, he left,
> Clark freed the mother.

OK, this may not have been to your tastes, but how is a woman in her late 40s bound and gagged onscreen nothing? this sounds like the sort of thing that oughtta be in the database, actually.
Pat Powers
Wednesday January 15 22:49:17 2003
The Life Of David Gale
Hey..don't know if this was mentioned yet but...just saw screening of this movie and Kate Winslet handcuffs and tapegags herself. Don't want to give away the plot really...but she's investigating a pretty gruesome murder where the victim is tapegagged and also has a bag placed over her head. kate reenacts this scene for forensic purposes. You see her placing the tape on her mouth, then the bag over her head...She handcuffs herself behind the back and lays on the floor. her guy friend is timing how long it takes her to run out of air. Then as she's struggling for air, handcuffed on the floor, her friend rips the bag off and you get to see her for a few seconds or so with the tape on before her friend rips it off....Alot of mmphing...I don't like the whole bag on the head thing..but she did it to herself..and you get a few seconds of her with just the tape..so I'd say it's a pretty good scene

FYI (and this is not a spoiler) Laura Linney plays the murder victim. Also FYI, if you care..the movie wasn't very good...
Wednesday January 15 22:55:44 2003
Re: Smallville
I agree with Pat. Who played "Whitney"?

Tapemaster
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Wednesday January 15 22:59:03 2003
Re: Smallville
> I agree with Pat. Who played "Whitney"?

I mean who played Whitney's MOM?

Tapemaster
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Wednesday January 15 23:07:43 2003
Re: Smallville
Chubby, I did not see the episode, but from your description it sounds like another example of the scriptwriters (or director, or producer) not knowing how to create real suspense and drama. Or what sells!
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday January 15 23:34:19 2003
Re: why not, Man Show?
>
> > but they did not say her name, it was her, and I believe she still models; Man Show is just another gig I'm sure.

Last post on this topic for me, but she did say "Hi, I'm Regina." in the videoclip the hosts and audience watched. She was a bit of a ditz.

TM
Wednesday January 15 23:35:16 2003
Re: Top Five Mainstream DIDs On DVD
1. Invasion of the Girl Snatchers
5. Il Vicino di Casa
For my question now... The DYNASTY scenes with Linda
Evans were great
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