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Tuesday December 21 02:09:23 2004
Re: Alias; Superheroine/spy sites; Aeon Flux; syndication
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The character is Nadia (Mia Maestro), Sydney's sister who
> was introduced towards the end of last season. She's now
> a full-time regular in the series.

On the same note, Aisha Taylor, the hottie who had a 10-episode or so guest spot on "Friends" last year, will be a regular on "24." In other words, great chance she'll be bound and gagged at some point during Day 4.
Tuesday December 21 07:43:33 2004
Re: Silent Movie serials
Moxx of Balhoom wrote:

> about 15-20 years ago i remember finding a book in an
> Oxford bookstore called 'Bound and Gagged'


I have a copy

james
Tuesday December 21 07:47:42 2004
sherlock holmes and the case of the silk stockings
this BBC TV movie airs in the UK on Boxing Day.Rupert Everett is a lame Holmes but he is set against a bondage and foot fetishist who ties the girls hands in front,knees and then gags them by stuffing their stockings down their throats ( thus making the gag invisible for the most part).
This happens twice..their is a chloro scene too.
james
Tuesday December 21 10:08:27 2004
Re: Silent Movie serials
Moxx of Balhoom wrote:
> It was dedicated to silent movie serials and was one of
> those huge coffee table books. Every page had at least
> one photo of a b&G heroine from one of those silent
> serials such as The Perils of Pauline.
> Alas, i was but a poor student and the book was well out
I have nine episodes of the original Perils of Pauline, filmed in 1914 (in New Jersey!) and there is A LOT of bondage for Miss White, all rope with cloth OTM (and I think one cleve) gags.
I am editing the bondage scenes onto one tape that I will begin offering for sale/trade in late January.
And Max, I second what jenni and Brian R. have told you. Lahue's book, despite its title is an overall look at silent serials, with just a few relevant pics (Arline Pretty-- yep, I know-- in A Woman in Grey'') was the best of these. I'll fire up the scanner after the holidays and post it.
Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
http://www.franksattic.net
Tuesday December 21 10:13:44 2004
Re: Alias Smith and Jones Coming to STARZ! Westerns
> According to STARZ! Western's schedule, the holy grail
> episode "Shootout at Diablo Station" with Anne
> Archer and Elizabeth Lane b&g

Along with a whole bunch of putzes
Tuesday December 21 11:27:07 2004
Re: Medicopter scene
> Unfortunate note: Some of the 'supposed' ALL time great
> scenes shown over and over on the net, turn out to be
> amongst the WORST scenes ever done - BayWatch springs to mind - the caps are great, but the reality is pathetic...

Which one - the one with Nicole Eggert? The reality rocked too






Hasselhof
Tuesday December 21 11:41:25 2004
Aisha Tyler
> On the same note, Aisha Taylor, the hottie who had a
> 10-episode or so guest spot on "Friends" last
> year, will be a regular on "24."

Would be awesome to see a scene from her--she's gorgeous (and very funny, too--saw her stand-up act early this year). But a quick, respectful correction: It's Aisha TYLER. Thanks for the tip about 24...
Hibiscus
Tuesday December 21 11:57:28 2004
Re: Aisha Tyler
Hibiscus wrote:

> > On the same note, Aisha Taylor, the hottie who had a
>
> > 10-episode or so guest spot on "Friends"
> last
> > year, will be a regular on "24."
>

Not to rain on your parade, but Tyler has in fact only been signed to appear in three episodes of "24" with an option for up to three more (same as her current deal on "CSI"). She is not going to be a regular.
Tuesday December 21 12:35:16 2004
Re: Aisha Tyler
Hibiscus wrote:
>
> Would be awesome to see a scene from her--she's gorgeous

...and, t'would appear, not entirely averse to our sort of imagery. :-)

Hope the link works.
http://www.ebony-celebs.com/aisha-tyler/a34b6ffc.jpg
Mad Dan
Tuesday December 21 12:37:28 2004
Re: Aisha Tyler
>
> Hope the link works.

D'oh! Anyway, she's wearing a dog collar and chain attached to one wrist. Pretty lass, too. :-)

Mad Dan
Tuesday December 21 13:34:58 2004
Re: sherlock holmes and the case of the silk stockings
james wrote:

>.... who ties the girls hands in
> front,knees and then gags them by stuffing their
> stockings down their throats ( thus making the gag
> invisible for the most part)...< [SNIP]

holy cow, and they survived?? stockings stuffed down the throat sounds like a pretty sure way to suffocate a person!
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Tuesday December 21 13:45:17 2004
Re: Mi Gorda Bella
Tim Smith wrote:

> Thanks to an alert on my board, I caught a minor scene
> today. It's mainly a handcuff scene, with a chair-tie and
> a little rope thrown in for good measure. The scene(s)
> itself wasn't very good, but the Latina babe was pretty
> sweet. If I have to endour soap operas, I much prefer the
> Spanish ones, as they seem to yield way more scenes and
> the women are hot, Hot, HOT!
>
Thanks or gracias for the caps, she does look great. I have to agree the babes on the Espanol telanovelas are much more attractive than the network soap stars.
Viking
Tuesday December 21 14:02:14 2004
It's older ladies in handcuff week on DOOL
Yesterday Caroline Brady was cuffed in front for the entire episode with leg cuffs on in a few scenes and today another older character spent the entire episode in handcuffed with hands behind her back. Todays woman was wearing a hallipinia suit the whole time.
Tuesday December 21 15:26:11 2004
Howdy Doody??
While braving the crowded Best Buy today, I ran across a 4 DVD set called the "New Howdy Doody Show". It was apparently a syndicated revival of the 50's series produced in the late 70's that lasted for 130 episodes.

Anyway what caught my eye was a new cast member called "Happy" who appears to be a cute college age girl. I think she can best be described as "Doodyliscious".

The stories listed on the back seem to have a mystery theme such as a phantom in the studio or a mad scientist replacing Clarabel with a "bionic clown". Another involves a magic contest. Apparently the stories played out over the course of a week and each dvd contains 5 color episodes. Judging from the stills on the box, it was done in the same primitive style of the original, simple set with a studio audience.

Does anyone have any recollection of a scene in this show? I know it's an extreme long shot but stranger things have happened. Frankly, I consider myself somewhat of an authority on classic tv and I've never even heard of this remake.
CM
Tuesday December 21 16:55:02 2004
Re: Aisha Tyler
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Not to rain on your parade, but Tyler has in fact only
> been signed to appear in three episodes of "24"
> with an option for up to three more (same as her current
> deal on "CSI"). She is not going to be a regular.

Too bad. I read "she joins the cast" but maybe that's what they meant, a few episodes. Still, with the "24" track record, plenty of time for a scene.

Tuesday December 21 17:33:47 2004
Gag testing?
One of the more implausible aspects of tie-up scenes in film and TV drama is the confidence with which villains, or heroes in a good cause for that matter, gag damsels in the sure "knowledge" that it will be effective.

Where, for instance, did they learn that a cloth tied loosely over, or thinly into, the mouth, will ensure near-complete silence?

"We'll tie her up and tie a cloth over her mouth - that works every time."

"How d'you know?"

"I saw it in a movie."

"Hmmm... Not so sure. I know! We'll get some of that silver duct tape. That'll hold anything."

"But what about her poor delicate lips? Can't we put a bit of paper between them and the tape? That way, it won't pull no skin off, and she still can't make a sound."

"Aw, no need for that, really. I mean, when they pull the tape off in the movies, it comes off dead easy. Never pulls her lips with it, yet when it's on it holds 'em together a treat! No way she can get it off."

"I don't trust them movies. What if she yells the place down the second we're out the door? Maybe we better try a few different gags on Velma here before we do the job. See what works and what don't."

"You joiks ain't tyin' me up! Lay one hand on me and I'll scrMMMMPHHH!"

How come we never see a scene like that? It would be perfect for a comedy caper - a succession of different ties and gags on a cute moll doing her utmost to get free, and all absolutely mainstream, family entertainment. And we nuts would be happy to see the real damsel finally get a treatment that looked effective. How about it, film and TV people?

The closest I've seen to such a scenario was the ep of "Prisoner: Cell Block H" in which the Governor and her assistant worked off two or three different cloth gags, their kidnapper trying hard to find something that would stay on. Brown duct-type tape seemed to work in the end, but without stuffing and wrapping even that was a fudge.

Mad Dan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/storiesunbound
Tuesday December 21 17:58:11 2004
Re: Aisha Tyler

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > Not to rain on your parade, but Tyler has in fact
> only
> > been signed to appear in three episodes of
> "24"
> > with an option for up to three more (same as her
> current
> > deal on "CSI"). She is not going to be a
> regular.

When she was host on Talk Soup, she appeared in bondage once. Tied to a chair, no gag. Some sort of spoof of seventies detective shows, IIRC.
ss
Tuesday December 21 18:12:45 2004
Gag testing scene?
> One of the more implausible aspects of tie-up scenes in film and TV drama is the confidence with which villains, or heroes in a good cause for that matter, gag damsels in the sure "knowledge" that it will be effective.

How come we never see a scene like that? It would be perfect for a comedy caper - a succession of different ties and gags on a cute moll doing her utmost to get
free, and all absolutely mainstream, family entertainment. And we nuts would be happy to see the real damsel finally get a treatment that looked effective. How about it, film and TV people?
----
Sounds like a chance to test several more "Celluloid myths" for Discovery Channel's "Mythbusters" Adam and Jamie! Especially since this season they've added two female builder assistants to the show.

Seriously though, you're right in that applying the "Scientific method" would be an entirely logically fit for several plotlines. I'm thinking of a twist to the gang of thieves who'll attempt a heist against a timelock -- so they'll need to time to the second how long they need to bind & gag the employees as part of their time & motion study. And if their first practice run puts them 30 seconds over, maybe one gang member could suggest using handcuffs instead of rope or tape instead of handkerchiefs, etc. for their 2nd runthru.


Kinky-napper
Tuesday December 21 18:49:58 2004
Re: Aisha Tyler
ss wrote:

>
> When she was host on Talk Soup, she appeared in bondage
> once. Tied to a chair, no gag. Some sort of spoof of
> seventies detective shows, IIRC.

Hey thanks for bringing that memory in my mind. I think she is a real hottie. I agree with a previous poster too that she actually pretty funny as well. I usually find female comics freaking annoying. Anyways, I think her nice soft lips coulds use a white cleave gag. Maybe the "24" writers can pull this off. If any creative team has gotten it done these last few years, it is these guys.
Paco The Bandit
Tuesday December 21 19:16:20 2004
Re: Silent Movie serials
> Every page had at least
> one photo of a b&G heroine from one of those silent
> serials such as The Perils of Pauline.
> ______________________________________
> Voila!

Can't help wondering why you illustrate a post about a silent serial book with scenes from 50s sound serials..."Government Agents vs. the Phantom Legion" and "Haunted Harbor," I believe.
Paul
Tuesday December 21 20:05:25 2004
CSI: Miami Catches Fire!
The above headline is for an article in the December 26 - January 1 TV Guide magazine.

"Do we we time for one more sweeps story?... CSI: Miami is turning up the heat in February with another 90-minute installment, this time revolving around a fire in the Everglades. A source close to the show tells [Michael Ausiello] that the big-budget episdoe also features a prison break by one of Miami's most infamous killers and the kidnapping of a major Scene-stealer..."
Kinky-napper
Tuesday December 21 20:27:10 2004
Re: CSI: Miami Catches Fire!
Kinky-napper wrote:

> "Do we we time for one more sweeps story?... CSI:
> Miami is turning up the heat in February with another
> 90-minute installment, this time revolving around a fire
> in the Everglades. A source close to the show tells
> [Michael Ausiello] that the big-budget episdoe also
> features a prison break by one of Miami's most infamous
> killers and the kidnapping of a major Scene-stealer..."

I'd love to see Sofia Milos in a new scene, but since she did a quick one on "Caroline in the City," I guess I'd vote for Emily Proctor first.

Tuesday December 21 20:34:11 2004
Re: Silent Movie serials
Frank J wrote:

> I have nine episodes of the original Perils of Pauline,
> filmed in 1914 (in New Jersey!)

At least part of the filming was done in Bucks County, Pennsylvania in areas that would now be considered Philadelphia suburbs. There's a tourist train called the New Hope and Ivyland Railroad that points out locations used for filming. I haven't been on the train, nor have I seen the movie other than thru vidcaps, but supposedly they point out the location where she was tied to the tracks. There's a trestle called "Pauline's Trestle"

Below is a link to the railroad's website which includes the line "The train will take you along the same historic route that was filmed in the 1914 movie series Perils of Pauline."

Google search term combination +"Perils of Pauline" +"New Hope" brings up a number of sites with info about the connection between the train, the flick, and the damsel-in-distress.
Philly Ed
http://www.newhoperailroad.com/
Tuesday December 21 21:56:35 2004
Veronica Mars anti-alert
Another rerun...
Gagged Damsel Lover
Tuesday December 21 22:01:18 2004
Smallville episode "Facade"
Why is there no listing for this episode?
togolane
Tuesday December 21 22:47:27 2004
Re: Smallville episode "Facade"
togolane wrote:

> Why is there no listing for this episode?

Facade is scheduled to air 12.22.04, it's #4-4; a repeat. New shows don't start again until Jan 26th 2005.

I thought it was the new fall season; why does it feel like so many shows are showing just repeats? TV is wierd.

Tuesday December 21 23:30:38 2004
Re: Medicopter scene
Major John wrote:
> Unfortunate note: Some of the 'supposed' ALL time
> great scenes shown over and over on the net, turn
> out to be amongst the WORST scenes ever done

I can only speak for myself, however I believe a number of us running sites and/or yahoo groups showing such scenes over and over is based on what is most frequently requested by the community either via email or postings on a message board. There are some traits that many have said is required for a scene to become an all-time great one of which is an effective gag. Myself, I can live without the gag as long as the wrists bondage is realistic but that's what makes each of us unique. Some think the SIGNY for us is like the Oscars is to movie studios, however I can recall incidents where several would disagree with the results of both award systems. The point is we're all different, a really bad scene to one individual may be the holy grail for someone else and that's OK.
Kerhop

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