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Sunday January 09 00:21:24 2005
Re: Bondage Humor/American TV
Jacot wrote:

> the powers that be decided that variety shows were passe >and gave us all those assinine 'reality' shows instead

Yes, it's a sad state of affairs... Still, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Maybe we should push the networks for a 'reality' kidnap show (with only the most rope / handcuff / gag worthy celebrity damsels, of course.) Now THAT would be one worth setting the VCR for!


Stalker
captainswing@bigpond.com
Sunday January 09 00:29:02 2005
Re: Scene ID
Thank you.
G-MaN
Sunday January 09 00:36:58 2005
FUZZWEB
Update to FUZZWEB is complete. Enjoy...
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://www.dangerbeach.net/fuzzweb
Sunday January 09 03:10:24 2005
Re: Old GH Scene
guest wrote:

> Actually it wasnt Emma Samms' first scene. Her first GH
> scene was when some guy and her yadda yadda....

Wasn't Emma tied to a St. Andrews style cross on one of those "Circus of the Stars" shows a million years ago? I seem to recall a wall of fire coming towards her if she failed to escape; which naturally she did. Great, and at the time unexpected, scene!
Mark O
Sunday January 09 05:01:41 2005
Re: Old GH Scene
Mark O wrote:

> Wasn't Emma tied to a St. Andrews style cross on one of
> those "Circus of the Stars" shows a million
> years ago? I seem to recall a wall of fire coming towards
> her if she failed to escape; which naturally she did.
> Great, and at the time unexpected, scene!

Yes, the stunt was called "The Rack of Fire" and she performed it on one of the last editions of "Circus of The Stars" (1995?).

Back in 1980, on that year's edition of "Circus of The Stars", Michelle Lee performed the same trick and that scene is my number one holy grail. What was really great about Lee's version is that it included a "Behind The Scenes" segment that showed Michelle practicing how to untie herself. Included a lot of great closeups of her hands.

Caps of Emma's version of the trick are at the link below.
CM
http://community.webtv.net/CTV10/EmmaSammsCircusOf
Sunday January 09 07:32:40 2005
Serena Scott/Rumer Willis
"THE TIES THAT BIND: "It was really horrible," says British actress Serena Scott Thomas of playing Bruce Willis' kidnapped wife in the upcoming big-screen "Hostage." "We spent a lot of time gagged and with our hands tied behind our backs? the director liked to do a lot of different takes and a lot of different angles"
angryrob
http://webcenters.compuserve.com/compuserve/celebrity/hollywoodexclusive.jsp?feature=ce_hol_12282004
Sunday January 09 08:03:30 2005
White Noise
As regards to the scene in this movie, just to point out to everyone, its not Debbie Kara Unger(?) who's the damsels, but rather an unknown who plays a kidnap victim. The scene is short and we get few if any close ups.

The film itself is painfully average, and the scene is IMHO not a keeper. Please do not go see this film, certianly not for any DiD action.
Steve A
Sunday January 09 08:09:06 2005
Most famous comic scene ever
The biggest comic release this year, and certainly the most hyped has been DC's excellent Identity Crisis.

In issues #3 and #4, the Atom's ex wife is left blindfolded, gagged and lynched, struggling for her life. She's recused in the nick of time. In the recent final issue, #7, a flashblack reveals how the villian did the deed, with more images of struggling.

The scenes are quite realistic for comic scenes and the gag is a tight red cleave.

Sorry if this has been mentioned here before but I havent seen anyone mention it.
Steve A
Sunday January 09 09:06:11 2005
Re: Serena Scott/Rumer Willis
>>>>>angryrob wrote:
> "THE TIES THAT BIND: "It was really
> horrible," says British actress Serena Scott Thomas
> of playing Bruce Willis' kidnapped wife in the upcoming
> big-screen "Hostage." "We spent a lot of
> time gagged and with our hands tied behind our backs?<<<<<<


Sadly, the official trailer doesn't show any gags. Let's hope she's being specific.




The Greyman
www.greyweb.org
Sunday January 09 09:18:20 2005
Re: Young Blades
>>>>>>Van wrote:
>>>>... apparently one of the key elements of the premise is that Karen Cliche's character can dress in a musketeer uniform & pass for male.<<<<<

Hey, Karen should have no problem at all passing for a dude. Remember, this IS France we're talking about here...
http://mx.borderline-angel.com/proxyblue/5be55c60.jpg
The Greyman
Sunday January 09 11:33:18 2005
Caps/clips of Funny Games?
I've really been dying to see this scene but none of my local video stores have it =/

From the description I can see that it's a really good scene for gag snobs like me and would really like to see it first before I go out and buy it. Anyone help me?
Sunday January 09 12:29:42 2005
"24" "Missing", "Wild Card"
In addition to "24" debuting tonight, "Missing" is now airing new episodes on Sundays at 1o p.m.

Tonight: Jess and Nicole find a man with a gunshot to the head in the trunk of a car. He survives but has no recollection of who he is. It soon becomes clear that he is the only link to a missing heiress. Can they recreate this man's life and save this woman?

Looks like "Wild Card" may have been canceled. It's now airing at midnight on Sundays and looks like the episodes planned in the next two months are reruns. They obviously wouldn't run original episodes at midnight.
Sunday January 09 13:51:38 2005
Re: Caps/clips of Funny Games?

>
> From the description I can see that it's a really good
> scene for gag snobs like me and would really like to see
> it first before I go out and buy it. Anyone help me?

In my humble opinion, it is by far the best gag scene ever in a mainstream movie. It blows everything else away. Just be warned it is not in a "cute" or inoffensive movie.
As for suggestions, there are two. One is that Anubis has a very good clip of just the DID scenes up on his site, which you'd have to purchase tokens for. It's wonderful work. Another suggestion is to try Netflix. If you don't want to sign up for the service and haven't already had one, you're eligible for a free trial. So sign up and put Funny Games in your queue and just make sure to cancel your membership before it is up and you'll get to watch the movie for free.


GladToHelp
Sunday January 09 15:36:11 2005
Scene ID
There two scenes I need help with the titles.

The first one I have a cap of, click on "Unknow Asian".( I had found a possible match in the DB but forgot to write it down.) It's from a reenactment cop show. The lady is grabbed getting into her car and forced in to a trunk where the guy binds and gags her with tape. He makes a ransom demand and drives around with her til the cops pull him over.

The second one I found today on an old tape. Unfortunately, I had taped over the bondage so I'm going from memory here. It's a foreign film I saw on PBS about 10 years ago with a midevil princess type. I remember she was bound hand & foot and her ropes were attached to something overhead so when she struggled she fell into a weird position. The brightest memory I have of it is the way she was freed, some sort of weird creatures came along and chewed through her ropes. I was a gag snob snob back then so I know one was involved, but I can't recall any details on it.
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/cliplistszcaps/ClipListSZCaps.html
Sunday January 09 16:43:48 2005
Update at bindhers
a hats off to major john for what has to be the ultimate
posting of clips this week
always a fan
Sunday January 09 17:38:01 2005
Jennifer Garner photo outtakes
There are two photos from an Esquire Magazine shoot that
didn't make it to print - they show Jen on her knees with her hands behind her back. No bonds can be seen, but the expression on her face in one of them lends to the implication.
http://jen-garner.net/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=9&pos=15
perilousgirl
Sunday January 09 17:38:55 2005
Hard Ground.
Can anyone please tell me what kind of gag is worn by Amy Jo Johnson in "Hard Ground"? The Database is silent on the subject.
Mad Dan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/storiesunbound
Sunday January 09 17:48:08 2005
Point Pleasant Jan 19th
See link, click on Features for video. New Fox series 13 episodes starts Jan 19th from ex Buffy executive producer. Very pretty cast; seems a little more serious and less fantastical than Buffy.

So, some good new shows with potential, Numb3rs, Medium, Point Pleasant and a couple of others already mentioned here.
http://www.fox.com/pointpleasant/
Sunday January 09 18:08:34 2005
Re: Scene ID
G-MaN wrote:

>
> The second one I found today on an old tape.
> Unfortunately, I had taped over the bondage so I'm going
> from memory here. It's a foreign film I saw on PBS about
> 10 years ago with a midevil princess type. I remember
> she was bound hand & foot and her ropes were attached
> to something overhead so when she struggled she fell into
> a weird position. The brightest memory I have of it is
> the way she was freed, some sort of weird creatures came
> along and chewed through her ropes. I was a gag snob
> snob back then so I know one was involved, but I can't
> recall any details on it.
>

The second one is this one here:

Record number: 1782

Title: Desideria
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Anna Falchi

Description: Episode: Unknown

Beautiful model/actress Anna Falchi stars in an unusual and very graphic scene in this German-Italian mini series about a banished fantasy princess and her evil sister. She runs into the clutches of the main baddie who drags her into a room with her wrists tied in front and cleave-gagged with a golden scarf over her hair. He then puts her in a standing position and ties her ankles, babbling about some evil plan he has in mind (he wants to marry her or something). A taut rope is used as a connection between her bound feet to the beam above her head and back down to her tied hands. After the baddie's left her, Falchi moves around and tries to free herself but falls on her behind instead with her legs and arms in the air. After some more struggling and yelling she's rescued by wooden puppets using their sharp teeth to gnaw at the thick rope. Several nice close-ups of her gagged and exhausted face.
Peter de K
Sunday January 09 18:49:01 2005
Re: Scene ID
G-MaN wrote:

> "Unknow Asian".
> from a reenactment cop show.

Trying to assist here.
Geo-cities limit is up on your caps..can't bring up.

Get on it
Jay L
Sunday January 09 19:07:13 2005
Re: G-Man "Unknown Asian" Scene ID
> Get on it

Have to get at it later,
as can't recall Title off-hand myself.

So for now:
Sent this re-enactment show out,
but sure there two Asians in it.

Show took place in Vancouver, Canada. Wealthy lady from Japan was tied to her bed. Her daughter was jumped and taken. Shown at kidnapper's place, as Mountie kidnap squad investigating- tapping phones, etc.
End up bringing her old man back from Hong Kong, or something for ransom sting.

Kidnappers put her in a car, but the Mounties were on top of them at this point. Blocking the car in. This Arrest-rescue scene sounds what you describing.

Okay,
get back on trying to recall the silly title of the show
Jay L
Sunday January 09 19:22:09 2005
Re: Old GH Scene
guest wrote:

> Actually it wasnt Emma Samms' first scene. Her first GH
> scene was when some guy and her were hidden in an
> amusement park. If my memory is right she was sitting
> high on top of a counter with her hands tied behind her
> back behind a pole. The guy is tieing her ankles and gags
> her so he can snoop around. One of those guy kidnaps girl
> and goes on the run type deals. Then they fall in love,
> ect, ect,....

Hmmm....I"ve never even HEARD of this scene & I thought I had all of Emma's on tape. Are we sure? I've not heard of any actress on GH in a "bind" (heh heh) as you described, on a counter, etc. Sounds like a great scene though!
JP
Sunday January 09 19:30:01 2005
Re: Hard Ground.
Mad Dan wrote:

> Can anyone please tell me what kind of gag is worn by Amy
> Jo Johnson in "Hard Ground"? The Database is
> silent on the subject.

A rather thick cleave gag, dark cloth. As a bonus, you can plainly see darked saliva-soaked areas at the corners of her mouth (a plus for me!). No really good close-ups, though.

JP
Sunday January 09 19:39:45 2005
Re: Hard Ground.
Mad Dan wrote:

> Can anyone please tell me what kind of gag is worn by Amy Jo Johnson in "Hard Ground"? The Database is
> silent on the subject.

Thin, light-colored cleave. Don't recall much more than that. She looks really cute wearing it, but it's a short scene.

Hibiscus
Sunday January 09 19:42:14 2005
Re: G-Man "Unknown Asian" Scene ID
> get back on trying to recall the silly title of the show

Got it, here:
_________________________

Record number: 10124

Title: 72 Hours
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Jennifer June Ng, Mung-Ling Tsui

Description: Episode: "Kidnapped"

In this CBC true crime series, a kidnapping is re-enacted. An older Chinese woman (Tsui) is grabbed by organized crime villains and tied spreadeagled to a bed with cloth ties. When her daughter Selena (Ng) arrives, the villains grab her and tie her with duct tape. She has her hands bound and is also blindfolded and gagged with the tape.

The daughter has a brief scene where her tape gag is removed and then spends the rest of the episode with hands bound behind and blindfolded with duct tape wrapped around her head. She's eventually found by police in a car trunk still bound and blindfolded.
Jay L
Sunday January 09 20:50:22 2005
Re: Old GH Scene
JP wrote:
> Hmmm....I"ve never even HEARD of this scene & I
> thought I had all of Emma's on tape. Are we sure? I've
> not heard of any actress on GH in a "bind" (heh
> heh) as you described, on a counter, etc. Sounds like a
> great scene though!

This is anonymous, so it wont be to embarsing to go in to more detail. Funny as a teenager I would watch GH in the hope of a DID scene.

Anyway when the Emma Samms charcter was first on the show she was kind of a con person with her farther, I think. Anyway there was some big plot involving Luke, he ended up kidnapping her and hiding out in an amusement park booth. When he has to go he tied her up and gagged her. Then they fell in love, ect..

Just filling in some more of the details. Id love to see this scene too, but it might have been a one shot deal.
Sunday January 09 20:57:04 2005
24 - alert
Kim Raver was just kidnapped along with her father about 2 minutes ago. There was a close-up of her with a black cleave gag and then she was blindfolded with a black cloth. She's wearing a skirt. More to come in hour 2.
chubby
Sunday January 09 20:59:01 2005
24
Hi all

Live in America now, 1st episode has jsut finished, 2nd one jsut about to start, jack's girlfriend, on screen gagging and blindfolding, back of truck, short skirt, nylons. marvellous.

My missus jsut said to me, "there hun, there's your money shot". Marvellous
sparky
Sunday January 09 21:00:11 2005
24
Hey at the end of the first epidsode of the new 24 season has given us a scene. The new love interest has been kidnapped at the end of the epidsode. There is also a putz but the damsel is grabbed and gagged and blindfolded with some black strips of cloth.
Paco The Bandit
Sunday January 09 21:02:17 2005
24
Well, 24's new season is off to a rousing start.
Very end of first hour features kidnapping of William Devane & Kim Raver (?).
Last shots show her cleave gagged with a semi thick black cloth, and then another black cloth is being tied over her eyes.
Cue is to see a shot of Devane in similar situation. P.S> He's one of my fave actors; please no one refer to him as putz :-)

Hour 2 now starting. Updates to follow.
LV
Sunday January 09 21:04:39 2005
Re: Hard Ground.
Thanks for the info, JP and Hibiscus. Not my type o'muffle, but many thanks anyway.
Mad Dan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/storiesunbound
Sunday January 09 21:07:16 2005
24
Last few minutes of the episode.....a lady & an older gentleman were grabbed off the street & forced into a van. The last shot of the episode showed the man blindfolded & cleave gagged & a nice closeup of the woman cleave gagged before a blindfolded is pulled over her eyes. I only saw the last 20 minutes of the episode so I don't know if there was anything else before this. I did think I saw a quick glimpse of what looked like a young Asian woman tied to a chair (no gag) but didn't see anything else. Were there any other scenes of her tied beforehand, possibly gagged?

Part 2 is starting now...I'm sure the scene will continue.
JP
Sunday January 09 21:15:01 2005
24 scenes
which seasons of 24 have what scenes. i am thinking of buying one.


thanks
Sunday January 09 21:21:24 2005
Re: 24
> Hour 2 now starting. Updates to follow.

Kim returns right after 1st commercial break.
She (& Devane) are brought into the prodigal deserted house and seated on chairs. Her blindfold and gag are almost immediately removed. Her hands are still tied.
LV
Sunday January 09 21:32:49 2005
Re: 24
JP wrote:

I did think I saw a quick glimpse of what looked
> like a young Asian woman tied to a chair (no gag) but
> didn't see anything else. Were there any other scenes of
> her tied beforehand, possibly gagged?
>

There was a very short scene with a young Asian woman tied to a chair. Distance shots only. No gag. Scene will not continue. I don't recall the exact time of the "scene". Maybe was a little past the :30 mark.

Update on Kim Raver - she was just shown (1:30 mark) untied.

chubby
Sunday January 09 21:46:51 2005
El Santo
Mid part of the movie. Santos female parnter's cover was blown. She ended up bound to a chair hands behind back and white cleave gagged. Later she is rescued by another female agent, still bound to the chair, but no gag.
Gmoney
Sunday January 09 21:58:00 2005
Bahama Hustle
Has anyone seen this movie?
Sunday January 09 22:11:15 2005
Re: 24 scenes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> which seasons of 24 have what scenes. i am thinking of
> buying one.
>
>
> thanks

Both seasons one and three have scenes but if you have neither and are mainly interested on the scenes themselves, the scenes in season one are better than three. Details are in the database.
Bond265
Sunday January 09 22:12:52 2005
Lost
During "Desperate Housewives" a promo for Wednesday's "Lost" ran. It heavily featured a guy tied up, but I did catch a glimpse of the missing girl also wearing rope.

Wednesday is going to be a business one for my VCR. I need to catch all the ones already posted on the alerts page, plus DEBS is running. (I'll add an alert later.)
G-MaN
Sunday January 09 22:21:01 2005
Re: Scene ID
G-MaN wrote:

> There two scenes I need help with the titles.
>
> The first one I have a cap of, click on "Unknow
> Asian".( I had found a possible match in the DB but
> forgot to write it down.) It's from a reenactment cop
> show. The lady is grabbed getting into her car and
> forced in to a trunk where the guy binds and gags her
> with tape. He makes a ransom demand and drives around
> with her til the cops pull him over.
>
Although I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like one of the reenactments from an old CBS show around late 80's-early 90's (Top Cops I think). It dealt with the reenactment of stories from various cops and detectives. In the episode that I'm thinking of,
Bond265
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0098931

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