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Sunday December 05 00:14:13 2004
Re: Heather Locklear
This is a long shot.

Anyone remember a magazine from the mid-90s with Heather Locklear on the cover in a pink(?) rubber dress? I don't remember the mag, but it must have been some hip cultural periodical.

I only remember this line on the cover: "Rubber the right way."

There were several pics of her inside, none in bondage. BUT - in the accompanying article, the author talks about how great it is that Heather seems to be up for anything in these photos, including some "light bondage" shots with her wrists lightly tied behind her back with rubber tubing or something.

There was a great quote from Heather about those shots. "I know, I know, 'What does this say about women?' It says it looks cool, so get over it."

I was in agony that none of the photos in question made the issue, and I wondered if they'd ever pop up anywhere.

Any of this sound familiar?
Brick
Sunday December 05 00:34:35 2004
Re: ALIAS Season 4 premiere
(unsigned poster) wrote:


> If you want to cheesy
> crap like that you can buy and watch an S&M video.

That's enough of that. You express your preferences
without running down others. Anything further goes
buh-bye.

The Moderator
Sunday December 05 01:14:37 2004
Re: Gilligan to the rescue
kevin wrote:

> I believe what you are seeing on the short clips is the
> "rescue" with the 2 Giiligans going head to
> head... to maybe run a gauntlet of problems and be
> the first to "rescue" the damsels. Tune in Tuesday 7 pm c

A big Nicole fan, I was disappointed to suss out that since the Gingers compete next in what previews show to be an underwater contest, Nicole will not receive the arms behind back treatment that the preview shows Rachel in. She will have been "banished to the other side of the island." I can only hope that the other side of the island is home to a few hungry headhunters. Or maybe Mindy Stearns (nee Burbano, the surviving millionaire's wife) can get herself into some fine mess.

The music video scenes are cute, though, albeit absent Nicole.

As far as the pole being thirty feet behind Rachel... well, sure, maybe, but I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Maybe Rachel had her arms stretched in a re-creation of the rack scene.
Not Brian
Sunday December 05 02:26:19 2004
question
Is there anywhere on the Net where I can get feedback from how actresses feel when they're tied up & gagged? As in what goes thru their mind when they'r in that situation? Please don't ignore this question cause I'm dying to find out!!
S
Sunday December 05 03:13:14 2004
Horsing around
There was a thread a while back about a scene in one ep of MISTER ED involving spies.

This week there are three eps airing on TV LAND with that theme:

Tuesday 11AM E/P "Ed, the Counterspy"
Thursday (same) "Cold Finger"
Friday (same) "Spies Strike Back"

Can anyone provide intel on this?
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Sunday December 05 08:59:51 2004
Heather Locklear - Details magazine
> Anyone remember a magazine from the mid-90s with Heather Locklear on the cover in a pink(?) rubber dress? I don't remember the mag, but it must have been some hip cultural periodical.

I only remember this line on the cover: "Rubber the right way."

in the accompanying article, the author talks about how great it is that Heather seems to be up for anything in these photos, including some "light bondage"
shots with her wrists lightly tied behind her back with rubber tubing or something.

There was a great quote from Heather about those shots. "I know, I know, 'What does this say about women?' It says it looks cool, so get over it."
----
On the October 1994 cover of "Details" magazine, she wore a purple rubber dress, for the lead story "Heather Locklear Rubber the Right Way". The paragraph in question was:

"On the other hand, she is willing to sit for an entry-level bondage shot. Both her manager and her publicist are concerned about the pose, in which pink rubber tubing is wrapped around her upper torso, then strung down to her hands, which are tightly bound together. She understands the political implications of bondage. 'I know: What's that saying for women??' she says later with a sigh, then clucks dismissively. 'It's saying it looked kinda cool. Get over it."
Kinky-napper
Sunday December 05 10:33:13 2004
Re: question
S wrote:

> Is there anywhere on the Net where I can get feedback
> from how actresses feel when they're tied up &
> gagged? As in what goes thru their mind when they'r in
> that situation? Please don't ignore this question cause
> I'm dying to find out!!

Not sure where on the net to find it, but I recall reading about Annabella Sciorra talking about how she spent all day hogtied in her scene in "Whispers in the Dark". Two more recent examples are from DVD commentaries by Eliza Dushku on "Wrong Turn" and Leelee Sobieski on "Joyride". Eliza mentioned being bound to the bed all day long, there was also a Fangoria magazine article where she talked about it. Leelee, on her dvd, mentions how the "Clear Tape" used to gag her was actually just plastic wrap but she is such a good actress that she was able to make "Gag-talk" sound convincing.
Sorry, that's all I can help ya with
wtb
Sunday December 05 11:54:34 2004
Re: question
S wrote:
> get feedback from how actresses feel when they're tied up & gagged?

Triple X wrote (a few months ago here in the Discussion forum):

When inteviewed about her less than classic comedy movie (although it DID feature classic scenes) Head Above Water Ms Diaz was asked about being tied up and said she hated it.
Kerhop
kerhop@oz.net
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html
Sunday December 05 12:13:19 2004
Re: Heather Locklear - Details magazine
Kinky-napper wrote:

> "On the other hand, she is willing to sit for an
> entry-level bondage shot. Both her manager and her
> publicist are concerned about the pose, in which pink
> rubber tubing is wrapped around her upper torso, then
> strung down to her hands, which are tightly bound
> together. She understands the political implications of
> bondage. 'I know: What's that saying for women??' she
> says later with a sigh, then clucks dismissively. 'It's saying it looked kinda cool. Get over it."

I fail to see how an attractive bondage shot is some kind of slap at all of womankind.

If she's up for it, she's up for it. I'd compare this to some other things that are "accepted," but they would be off-topic.

I will mention, though, that I watched "Walker, Texas Ranger" a couple of nights ago, and the start was the typical DiD situation: Sheree Wilson and a female cop handcuffed to bedposts. But right away, the cop found a way to get free at least once. Of course, they were immediately recaptured.

At the end of the show, the female cop was kicking ass along with Walker and his stooges. The point is that one bondage situation doesn't throw all women into some kind of helpless state.
gasface
Sunday December 05 12:18:32 2004
Re: question
Kerhop wrote:

> S wrote:
> > get feedback from how actresses feel when they're
> tied up & gagged?
>
> Triple X wrote (a few months ago here in the Discussion
> forum):
>
> When inteviewed about her less than classic comedy movie
> (although it DID feature classic scenes) Head Above Water
> Ms Diaz was asked about being tied up and said she hated
> it.
> http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html

Thats very surprising to hear , Ms Diaz hated being tied up , she has been tied up in so many roles already , A life less ordinary , Mask and of course head above water , of even minor scene in Charlies Angels
go figure
Tie
Tiemetightly@aol.com
Sunday December 05 12:43:11 2004
auditions
All this recent talk of how actresses feel about being tied up got me thinking. Every now and then an episode of a cop show produces an all bondage eipisode, that is to say one where a girl is kidnapped is kidnapped in the first act and rescued in the last. Sometimes we get a lot of scenes in between other times there are just rthe capture & rescue scenes, either way the actress in question seems to have little to do in between. one example that springs to mind is an episode of the BBC show Murphy's Law in which a pretty young woman spent almost the entire 90m b&g in a cellar under a car park. I just wonder how an actress auditions for a rolelike that, and what goes through her mind when she sees the script?
moxx of Balhoom
mike@timelord.wanadoo.co.uk
Sunday December 05 14:39:23 2004
wild card
is there anything on wild card tonight?.bound and gagged, your wife was snagged?.
doug
Sunday December 05 15:36:32 2004
Re: auditions
moxx of Balhoom wrote:

> show Murphy's Law in which a pretty young woman spent
> almost the entire 90m b&g in a cellar under a car

Nothing says you have to film the scenes shown to the audience in the order they're shown to the audience. For the sake of the actress I imagine they film it all at once and then during the editing process split it up into segments that get inserted into the final version so the audience appears to be "checking in with the DID" occasionally. Alternatively, we know some film lengthy segments in short 5-10 minutes spurts (actress is untied then retied in-between) and that's where the inconsistencies are noticed by our crowd as we see in one segment scene she's gagged, the next she's not, the next it's in the mouth, the next it's over the mouth, etc.
Kerhop
Sunday December 05 15:47:59 2004
Re: auditions
Kerhop wrote:

> Alternatively, we know some film
> lengthy segments in short 5-10 minutes spurts (actress is
> untied then retied in-between) and that's where the
> inconsistencies are noticed by our crowd as we see in one
> segment scene she's gagged, the next she's not, the next
> it's in the mouth, the next it's over the mouth, etc.

I think China Chow said the crew would untie her legs between takes, but the gag stayed in her mouth and her hands stayed tied when she was in "The Big Hit."
gasface
Sunday December 05 16:52:14 2004
Re: Heather Locklear - Details magazine
gasface wrote:


> I fail to see how an attractive bondage shot is some kind
> of slap at all of womankind.

This is heading off-topic rapidly. Let's drop it in a
hurry.

The Moderator
Sunday December 05 17:15:51 2004
Re: wild card
doug wrote:

> is there anything on wild card tonight?.bound and gagged,
> your wife was snagged?.

Rerun. Nothing.

Sunday December 05 19:04:51 2004
Re: auditions
Kerhop wrote:


> Nothing says you have to film the scenes shown to the
> audience in the order they're shown to the audience. For
> the sake of the actress I imagine they film it all at
> once Alternatively, we know some film
> lengthy segments in short 5-10 minutes spurts (actress is untied then retied in-between) and that's where the
> inconsistencies are noticed by our crowd as we see in one
> segment scene she's gagged, the next she's not, the next
> it's in the mouth, the next it's over the mouth, etc.

Cheers, but i was thinking more about the actual audition, i doubt a soliloquay from Shakespear is a good way to judge a potential DID, i was thinking do they have the script? do they have to audition by Mmmppphhhing or struggling? or are the casting directors looking for someone who would look good tied up?
Take emma Amos in Heartbeat last week, several years experience on her CV but asked to play a role that required her to do little more than mmpphh. Did she audition? or was she sent a script and asked if she wanted to play kidnap victim? what does it look like on someones audition tape?
Moxx of Balhoom
mike@timelord.wanadoo.co.uk
Sunday December 05 19:15:12 2004
Re: auditions
gasface wrote:
> I think China Chow said the crew would untie her legs
> between takes, but the gag stayed in her mouth and her
> hands stayed tied when she was in "The Big Hit."

I heard the opposite, she'd allow ankles to remain bound but the other stuff came off and put back on. The thing about metal cuffs (The Big Hit) is it's no big deal to unlock them and relock them later unlike a rope tie.

Kerhop
Sunday December 05 19:43:44 2004
The Librarian—Quest for a Left Coast Alert!
"The Librarian—Quest for the Spear" premieres on TNT tonight (8PM ET/PT) I've watched the previews closely, & there's a scene in which beautiful blonde costar Sonya Walger is standing with her hands behind her back. It looks like the climactic scene, & it's conceivable the villains have captured the goodguys just as they all reached their mutual goal. Might be worth watching. Kelly Hu plays a villainess! :-)
http://i.cnn.net/v5cache/TNT/Images/librarian_aswal.gif
http://i.cnn.net/v5cache/TNT/Images/librarian_akhu.gif
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.tnt.tv/Title/Display/0,5918,543783,00.html
Sunday December 05 20:44:59 2004
Re: auditions
Kerhop wrote:

> I heard the opposite, she'd allow ankles to remain bound
> but the other stuff came off and put back on. The thing
> about metal cuffs (The Big Hit) is it's no big deal to
> unlock them and relock them later unlike a rope tie.

I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I'm pretty sure she was tied, not cuffed.

I'll look at the database entry and see what it says.

gasface
Sunday December 05 21:03:06 2004
small soldiers vidcaps
does anyone have any kirsten dunst in small soldiers vidcaps?

thanks
Sunday December 05 21:41:56 2004
Article on AOL...
...tonight: "26 Surprising Uses for Tape".

Unfortunately, the article didn't have the surprise I was hoping for.
http://i.timeinc.net/realsimple/images/1206_MAIN_sticking_power.jpg
Sunday December 05 22:11:57 2004
Re: auditions
gasface wrote:
> Kerhop wrote:
>
> > I heard the opposite, she'd allow ankles to remain
> bound
> > but the other stuff came off and put back on. The
> thing
> > about metal cuffs (The Big Hit) is it's no big deal
> to
> > unlock them and relock them later unlike a rope
> tie.
> I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I'm pretty sure
> she was tied, not cuffed.
> I'll look at the database entry and see what it says.

Her legs are tied, wrists are cuffed, she has a fairly effective looking gag and she's in a schoolgirl skirt. A couple really great scenes.

Quotes from some interviews . . .

Even with no previous acting experience, China won favorable reviews. Playing a rich girl kidnapped by gangsters, she had to spend hours at a time tied up, gagged, and handcuffed. "When they would yell 'Cut,' the crew would ask me if I wanted my legs untied," she says. "It wasn't worth it because five minutes later I'd have to be tied up again. Then there was a scene where I got thrown into the trunk of a car and the trunk door slammed down on my head. Now, that hurt -- my brain bounced! But it was a blast."
(Maxim)

"But I'll tell you one thing, the hard thing was acting like I didn't like getting kidnapped by the four of them!"
(Toronto Star)
http://www.homunculus.com/articles/chowchina/chowtorontosun980430.html
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps/
Sunday December 05 22:29:32 2004
jennifer garner site
i heard there was a site with lots of jennifer garner vidcaps. what is the site?
Sunday December 05 22:42:50 2004
Re: jennifer garner site
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> i heard there was a site with lots of jennifer garner
> vidcaps. what is the site?

Mine ;)
Since the caps are pretty big (yahoo groups has a 5mb/file 20mb/total limit) I can't have them all up at one time. I'm sending files up to about 30 mb out by email and letting your email provider eat the cost of the bandwidth ;)
Join the yahoo group for all the details. It's been working pretty well, I have about 40 people on the daily list, not sure how much bigger it can get before yahoo notices that they are sending over gig of emails a day for me, but hey.

BTW, we just hit 11,000 entries in the DB.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps/
Sunday December 05 22:58:55 2004
WSIMD lives again!
This should be especially good news to whipping fans. The Whipping Scenes in Movies Database, which closed in September, has been preserved and will live on at its new home at Bring Out The GIMP (Girls In Merciless Peril) at

http://books.dreambook.com/zfxetc/main.html

And when you come by to check out the database, we hope you'll stick around and visit us on a regular basis.

Let me tell you about our site. We are a discussion group that caters more to the "harder" and more "extreme" level of bondage entertainment. Discussions of videos involving bondage, whipping, electro-torture, rape; you name it, we've probably discussed it at the GIMP. We started off as a discussion group for ZFX videos and we've been going strong for over 5 years now. In addition to the whipping scenes lists, our site also features separate databases for movies with electro-torture scenes and another one for rape scenes. There are 4 pages of bondage video reviews and another page full of links where you buy these extreme bondage vids and DVDs. And check in often, because there's a new bondage picture posted every day.

Besides all of you, we've even had visits by ZFX creator Rick Masters, as well as Lisa Kinkaid, Dan Hawke, PD from Insex, noted bondage artist Gary Roberts, Gerard Titsman, and other bondage producers who come in and interact with their fans. You never know who may show up next.

Come by and join us, if you're interested. We're all pervs down here; you'll feel right at home :)
Ralphus
ralphus44@aol.com
http://books.dreambook.com/zfxetc/main.html
Sunday December 05 23:42:08 2004
Re: The Librarian—Quest for a Left Coast Alert!
Van wrote:

I've watched the previews
> closely, & there's a scene in which beautiful blonde
> costar Sonya Walger is standing with her hands behind her
> back.

I guess nothing happened in this?
Sunday December 05 23:51:31 2004
Julie Bowen
Does anybody happen to have this scene?:

Title: Three (1998)
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Julie Bowen

Description: Episode: Unknown

Julie's bound on a table from her hands to her feet and gagged with black tape.
Big Josh
Sunday December 05 23:55:26 2004
Re: auditions
AsbestosFilter wrote:
> "But I'll tell you one thing, the hard thing was
> acting like I didn't like getting kidnapped by the four
> of them!" (Toronto Star)

What's interesting about that article is she showed up on a day trip and auditioned, assuming there were several others who also wanted the part one must wonder if and how many ladies were bound&gagged that day. :)


Kerhop

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