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Monday December 29 00:16:19 2003
Re: Database Entries
Per wrote:

> I never posted suggestions on DB
corrections just because of that, if the original entry
was technically correct. I thought the editors had enough
to do.
So, you suggest??????
___

Descriptions mostly edited for the episode title in the TV Series to be same for the Search Feature.

Only other times, changing "Putz" to "Guy", or taking out Age references.
Seen your entries and they fine.
Jay
Monday December 29 01:05:33 2003
Smallville Possibility
Found a spoiler for the February 4th episode of "Smallville" entitled "Hereafter" that reads . . . "Altman kidnaps and ties up Lana and another girl named Megan."

Aparently the story involves a father blaming Lana for his daughter's death.

Just follow the link and click on spoilers for the complete spoilers for that episode. Although the only mention of bondage is the one that I posted.
CM
http://www.kryptonsite.com
Monday December 29 01:28:51 2003
Database entries (was Re: Firefly)
Per wrote:
> I never posted suggestions on DB
> corrections just because of that, if the original entry
> was technically correct. I thought the editors had enough
> to do.
>
> I DID think, many times, "this entry, what a shame,
> for THAT nice scene".

When I find an inadequate entry, I submit a correction designed to save as much work for the editors as possible. I pretty much rewrite the entry or specific paragraphs completely, preserving as much of the original description as possible. That way all the editors have to do is cut & paste into the appropriate windows assuming the rewrite has no problems.

This method seems to be worthwhile. I don't recall one of my rewrites ever getting rejected. Also, it may be coincidence but there wasn't much about "Wax Mask" in discussion or various cap & clip sites until shortly after my revised description was put in the database.
iD
Monday December 29 02:30:38 2003
TV Guide's 20 Best Moments of 2003?
As I'm suffering with that horrendous 'flu you've all heard so much about this season, I may have been hallucinating, but I believe that ABC broadcast a "20 Best TV Moments of 2003" on Sunday night. I was surfing by as they all too quickly ran through the selections at the end of the program, and I could swear that I saw someone -- perhaps a woman -- bound and gagged! Did this happen, or was the medicine simply projecting my fevered imagination onto the screen? Leo the Thoroughly Ill
Leo
cuffcoll@hotmail.com
Monday December 29 03:34:36 2003
Re: Thnaks, Arubis
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Three of my favorite scenes posted in the same week

Thank Jay L for the Counterstrike scene.
I love that Caracara scene by the way, one of my favorites. From before her She Spies days. Like the short hair too.

On the subject of actresses debuting with a scene, Natasha debuted her acting career as the captor in Species.
Anubis
Monday December 29 03:41:31 2003
Re: Firefly
Brian R wrote:

> You ever notice that sometimes database descriptions,
> while techinically accurate, can really miss the flavor
> of a scene?

Have you ever thought of adding a viewer comments feature like the imdb has for their entries?
Anubis
Monday December 29 05:13:14 2003
Re: TV Guide's 20 Best Moments of 2003?
Leo wrote:

> "20 Best TV Moments of 2003" on Sunday night.
> that I saw someone -- perhaps a woman -- bound and
> gagged!

I believe what you saw was Jack Bauer from "24", wearing a bit gag.
Monday December 29 07:09:00 2003
Always want more?

> > Are we all perpetually unsatisfied?
> >
> I agree that we always want more and better scenes, but as for being not satisfied? No way. Just think about all the super hot actresses that have been bound and gagged in the last 10 years alone. The list is endless. I actually can't believe we've gotten as many as we have.
----
And while some continually complain about "the ones who got away" (aka, "Missed opportunities"), it's interesting to look at some of the actresses w/ the most Gag scenes of the past decades:

Stefanie Powers, Diana Rigg, Lynda Carter, Kristian Alfonso, Heather Locklear, Stepfanie Kramer, Teri Hatcher, Gillian Anderson, Sheree J. Wilson, and Elisha Cuthbert.

These are certainly some of the most attractive actresses of their eras. :-)
----
I should've included Kate Jackson, Shannon Tweed, and Cameron Diaz to the list above -- and of course, none of these three are hurting in the looks department.

And previous Discussion page threads have remarked on the large number of Gag scenes for Supermodels-turned-actresses and Playboy Playmates-turned-actresses. :-)
Kinky-napper
Monday December 29 09:25:11 2003
Re: Firefly
Anubis wrote:

> Have you ever thought of adding a viewer comments feature
> like the imdb has for their entries?

I imagine he has, since clearly this would rock. I also imagine that it would represent a serious amount of development effort.

Paysite! Paysite! :)
Raffish
Monday December 29 10:20:22 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
> Acroding to a local newspaper, two of the actresses will
> be rescued this week from the Salem Stalker.
>

Bonnie and Mimi, although nothing interesting may transpire.
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Days_of_our_Lives/images/imgs_bio/farah_fath.jpg
Monday December 29 10:25:33 2003
Greenlee
All My Children Spoilers

December 29 - January 2

Monday
Ryan ties Greenlee to a column in his penthouse.

Ricky
Monday December 29 11:47:19 2003
Re: Greenlee
Ricky wrote:

> All My Children Spoilers
>
> December 29 - January 2
>
> Monday
> Ryan ties Greenlee to a column in his penthouse.
>
At the end of Friday's show, he grabbed her by throwing a blanket over her on the street. It'll be interesting to see if we get a transport scene or whether they open with her tied in the penthouse. We'll find out in an hour or so.
Monday December 29 11:54:46 2003
Re: Firefly
Anubis wrote:

> Have you ever thought of adding a viewer comments feature
> like the imdb has for their entries?

This has come up before. The reasons for not going with it
are several. The programming isn't a big issue. The main
one has to do with inappropriate comments. And you know
there would be some.

The group of unpaid editors is already very busy just
dealing with changes to entries. Adding what amounts to
moderation their jobs would be an unfair burden, so the
task would have to fall to the site owner.

It's possible that whenever the registration system comes
about such ability could be made available to registered
members. It would be in keeping with that spirit. We'll
look at that when the time comes.

The Engineer
Monday December 29 11:59:41 2003
War of the Worlds
This has to be the best example of a 'totally-inexplicable-&-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-plot-but-we'll-take-it' suprise scene.
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/img/wargood1.jpg
Monday December 29 12:27:00 2003
Computer Game B&G Scene
At the Link

Love them CGA graphics!
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1057851138-00.gif
Monday December 29 12:28:01 2003
Re: Computer Game B&G Scene
Try this Link
http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,24/gameId,9382/
Monday December 29 12:40:12 2003
Re: Computer Game B&G Scene
Better chair-tie in the Apple Version

http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,4/gameId,9382/gameShotId,43951/
Monday December 29 12:41:29 2003
Re: Computer Game B&G Scene
Tho' Atari has the better graphics

http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,24/gameId,9382/gameShotId,45439/
Monday December 29 12:51:28 2003
Re: War of the Worlds
> This has to be the best example of a
> 'totally-inexplicable-&-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-plo
> t-but-we'll-take-it' suprise scene.


Actress is CJ Fidler who also has a role as 'Captive Woman' in the George Romero film 'Bruiser'. Anyone seen it?
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/img/wargood3.jpg
Marvin M
http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0212830/fullcredits
Monday December 29 12:53:59 2003
French Films
What are some good quality French films, like Romance with Caroline Ducey, that also have b\g scenes in them?

I can think of a couple that have scenes without a gag: Going Places and Late August Early September.

L'Enfer with Emmanuelle Beart has a scene at the end. Her hands tied to the bed above her head but no gag.
J Par
Monday December 29 13:01:33 2003
Quality French films with b&g scenes
> What are some good quality French films, like Romance with Caroline Ducey, that also have b\g scenes in them?
----
"Belle de Jour" (1967), which was the ageless Catherine Deneuve's breakout film.
Kinky-napper
Monday December 29 13:02:19 2003
Re: Computer Game B&G Scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Tho' Atari has the better graphics
>
> http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,24/gameId,9382/gameS
> hotId,45439/

I must admit: while the graphics are still too poor to get excited about, I'm finding it amusing to combine the verbs and objects in the menus to the right in highly immature ways. Ideally, such a game would allow you to select, say, "Enter Woman" -- then chastise you appropriately.

Somehow, though, I suspect it doesn't. ;)
Raffish
Monday December 29 13:19:16 2003
Re: French Films
J Par wrote:

> What are some good quality French films, like Romance
> with Caroline Ducey, that also have b\g scenes in them?

The French TV movie _Mauvais Presage_, peut-etre?
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/MauvaisPresage/MauvaisPresage.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/MauvaisPresage/
Monday December 29 13:24:52 2003
Die Stunde Des Lowen [aka The Hour of the Lion]
A short, dark scene from Jay L, as I gear up to cap and clip the longer, brighter scenes that he's sent over the holidays in a futile attempt to make me fall seriously behind. ;)
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/DieStundeDesLowen/DieStundeDesLowen.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/
Monday December 29 13:41:32 2003
All My Children
What's the scoop so far? I'm guessing we won't see a gag.
http://a.abc.com/daytime/allmychildren/images/bios/bio_budig.jpg
Monday December 29 13:55:04 2003
BMX BANDITS
A website has a pic from the film with the caption 'Nicole in Danger'. Looks like Ms Kidman may be tied.
http://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/BMXBanditsPic1.jpg
Monday December 29 13:56:13 2003
Re: All My Children
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> What's the scoop so far? I'm guessing we won't see a
> gag.


Tied to a column, no gag. No onscreen tying. Hands at sides. Good deal of discussion with her captor, and some woman who came in after he went out to get some groceries. She has been tied up 'for her own safety'. She tried to convince the woman that came in that her situation is a twisted bondage fantasy. Apparently the woman has let her go, and her captor, Ryan, is now saying 'greenlee is in a lot of danger' because she's going to see Juan Pablo. There is also a handgag in this episode, a pretty harmless woman-on-woman 'ssshhh' handgag (I don't know the characters on this show).
ss
Monday December 29 14:08:56 2003
Re: All My Children
ss wrote:

>
> Tied to a column, no gag. No onscreen tying. Hands at
> sides.

Another great setup by the board for Rebecca Budig. Best shot came when she was mouthing off before he left her alone, but instead of gagging her he just walked away and left the apartment. Then, Kendall comes in and has a great chance to gag her nemisis and also passes. Major disappointment, but expected. This is twice Greenlee was left in an apartment/hotel while tied up and not gagged. Still, she looked good tied the column with all those ropes.
Monday December 29 16:16:11 2003
Re: BMX BANDITS
> A website has a pic from the film with the caption
> 'Nicole in Danger'. Looks like Ms Kidman may be tied.


Anyone seen this rather obscure flick?

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/20/176920.jpg
Monday December 29 16:58:32 2003
Re: War of the Worlds
Marvin M wrote:

>>
> Actress is CJ Fidler who also has a role as 'Captive
> Woman' in the George Romero film 'Bruiser'. Anyone seen it?

Thank you SO MUCH for identifying her...I got that scene when it originated & always wondered if she went on to be in other things I saw but didn't recognize since this one was so quick...
Snowcat
Monday December 29 17:08:14 2003
Re: BMX BANDITS
(unsigned poster) wrote:

Has anyone seen this rather obscure flick?

Yes. nothing in it

Earle
Monday December 29 17:15:26 2003
Re: All My Children

> Still, she looked good tied the column with all those ropes.

Man I miss G-MaN's rerun theatre....

(sob sob)

Per
Monday December 29 17:17:30 2003
Urinetown in Boston
The musical Urinetown will play the Boston area in January - New England Entertainment Digest has a front page photo of the female lead B * G'd - this is a limited press paper which can probably be picked up at major newstands like Out of Town News in Harvard Square
Monday December 29 17:55:59 2003
Greenlee Needs a Gag
Like all of you, I am very disappointed that "Greenlee" (Rebecca Budig) avoided a gag once again on today's All My Children. Just remember, she is going to be bound and GAGGED sooner or later. It is just a matter of time. In the meanwhile, I have a request: Would any of the talented bondage "fakers" out there take a vidcap of today's scene and "add" a gag to it? I'm sure we ALL would like to see that. Thank you.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Monday December 29 21:07:54 2003
Re: BMX BANDITS
This post was deleted.

Poster: Van
Reason: Age thing. Van, you knew better.
The Moderator
Monday December 29 21:09:08 2003
Re: Greenlee needs a Gag
This post was moved to Anything Goes.

Poster: Tapemaster
Reason: Off-topic. Others of the same ilk also moved.
The Moderator
Monday December 29 21:15:48 2003
Re: Women B&Ged by other women?
I just revised up a scene from Mexican soaps along these lines, as I go through some old tapes. I tossed the original description because it got several details wrong, plus (cardinal sin) it misIDed the actress. Anyway, here you go:

Record number: 4827

Title: Infierno en el Paraiso
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Itati Cantoral aka Itatí Cantoral

Description: This scene plays out over the course of four episodes. The police on are on the trail of wanted fugitive Fernanda. They locate her on a local bus, disguised as a nun. As she is lead off, Francesca (Cantoral) is there to point and taunt. Bad move. Fernanda produces a gun and takes Francesca hostage and they flee in a commandeered SUV. Along the way, Francesca tries to make a break for it and gets popped for it. Later, her captor flings her a silk scarf at her and makes her blindfold herself.

Arriving at a hideout, Fernanda shoves Francesca to the floor. She then ties her ankles with a long strip of black cloth and her wrists in front with nylons. She stays like that for a long time while her captor taunts her a bit and dictates a long ransom tape.

At one point, after Francesca screams and yells up a storm, Fernanda puts a pillow over her face and smothers her for a bit. Francesca gets the message.

Much later, when Fernanda needs to go out to deliver the tape, she unties Francesca briefly as she moves her to a chair. She ties her ankles separately to the chair legs and her hands together behind the back of the chair. She then converts the silk scarf blindfold into a cleave gag.

Francesca is pretty weepy and moany at this point. She rocks the chair back and forth, and apparently tips it over, although that isn't shown on screen. She isn't able to work free, and Fernanda returns to find her lying on the floor.

At one point, Francesca hears some men outside the house, so she tries hard to make her muffled cries heard. Fernanda employs a hand over the gag to keep her quieter.

Francesca gets to stay tied and gagged in the chair overnight while her captor sleeps. The next day, in an odd scene, Fernanda has removed her gag so she can brush Francesca's hair and do her makeup. Then the gag goes back on, much to the captive's dismay.

Finally, Francesca is untied and led to the bathroom so she can take a shower. She has to remove her gag herself. After the shower, she gets the drop on Fernanda with a towel rod and knocks her out. This would have been a good opportunity for a turnabout scene (Fernanda is played by the stunning Julieta Rosen), but she takes off instead.

Francesca is attired in a form-fitting knee-length gray dress and strappy platform sandals. A problem for some, she has a little trickle of blood from the corner of her mouth after the struggle in the car, and gets another from her forehead after tripping the chair. Not serious though.


Brian R
Monday December 29 21:19:37 2003
Re: Women B&Ged by other women?
Here's another:

Record number: 9588

Title: All My Children
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Brette Friese

Description: In order to prevent Pam (Friese) from meeting someone, her female captor renders her unconcious in some fashion. For good measure, Pam is tied up (hands behind her back) and gagged with a thick red cloth between the teeth. She is seated in a kitchen chair, with her head down on the table. At one point, her captor picks up her head and turns it toward camera, I guess for us to have a better look.

Brian R
Monday December 29 21:20:39 2003
Re: Women B&Ged by other women?
How about this one:

Record number: 9598

Title: Tres Mujeres
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Karyme Lozano

Description: Fátima (Lozano) confronts bad girl Brenda in a hotel room. Arguments lead to a hand-gag and a catfight, ending when Brenda get Fátima in a hammerlock and marches her off to a closet. After a shot of mace to speed things along, Brenda ropes her hands in front and gags her with a black scarf between the teeth.

Brenda hadn't checked for a cell phone, which Fátima produces. She tries mightily to make her muffled cries heard, but is successful only in attracting Brenda's attention. Why, if she was able to use her hands well enough to dial a phone couldn't she pull down the gag? Some things are better left alone.

Anyway, Brenda returns to take the phone away. She then finishes packing and hits the road. There are several shots of Fátima writhing away in the closet, trying to attract help. Eventually, a couple of detectives looking for Brenda break in and rescue her.
Brian R
Monday December 29 22:53:53 2003
Re: War of the Worlds
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> This has to be the best example of a
> 'totally-inexplicable-&-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-plo
> t-but-we'll-take-it' suprise scene.

That show had quite a few surpirise scenes in it, the pilot episode debuted with a great handgag scene, and there were a few tape and cloth gags throughout the series.
Anubis
Monday December 29 23:22:49 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
> Bonnie and Mimi, although nothing interesting may
> transpire.

The extent was when the Salem Stalker grabbed Mimi and handgagged her. Some great struggling and mmmphhing, but no bondage.

Bob
Bob Nielsen
knightryderrwn@msn.com
Monday December 29 23:26:10 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
> Also, on Monday, "Sami fantasizes about lopping off
> all Kate's hair."


Yeah, scenes like that often involve the full treatment...in this case, however, it didn't. ;(
Bob Nielsen
knightryderrwn@msn.com
Monday December 29 23:35:32 2003
Re: Firefly
The Engineer wrote:

> Adding what amounts to
> moderation their jobs would be an unfair burden, so the
> task would have to fall to the site owner.

What if the site owner had one or two volunteers who you know are reliable for a long term task like that?
Anubis

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