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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Sunday December 21 00:48:29 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| David Knight wrote:
> > So duct tape was cheaper, easier to find, came in more > colors and worked better. Pretty much a no brainer there. > I finally threw the elastoplast away rather than use > it. > David, I've found the zinc oxide "pink" Hy-Tape to both adhere well and be relative gentle on skin ... but it's expensive. Deco brand decorative tape's a good deal less dear to one's wallet, and comes in black, red and white ... but I've only found it in 1 1/4" width. Guess what also fits the above bill pretty well: Plain ol' brown packaging tape ... as seen in numerous Japanese, HK and Euro productions, but rarely stateside in either mainstream or commercial venues. And it's budget-friendly. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Sunday December 21 02:21:33 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
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> David Knight wrote: > > > > > So duct tape was cheaper, easier to find, came in > more > > colors and worked better. Pretty much a no brainer > there. > > I finally threw the elastoplast away rather than > use > > it. I think it depends on what you are looking for. I have done the "duct tape on jeans" trick (I even have an old piece of denim in my tool kit in case I'm unable to wear jeans) but I find that the tape doesn't stay convincingly stuck for a long shoot. I've had some of the edge problems you describe with elastoplast but 1) It really is a gag rather than just looking like one 2) The times I've had problems with it have been when on screen gagging was needed. In which case a less that 100% perfect look actually adds to the effect. My current technique for photographic fake duct tape gag is to gag with PVC or durapore medical tape first then carefully tape over that with duct tape allowing just a few milimeters of overlap. The underlying gentle tape is then hidden and the duct tape kept clear of large areas of skin. |
| Tom Quin |
| Sunday December 21 02:57:47 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| Biff wrote:
> > Deco brand > Make that *Manco* ... dunno diddley 'bout Deco. |
| Biff |
| Sunday December 21 06:42:38 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| A product that can be very cheap in the UK (sold in widths up to 2" in cut-price "pound shops") is double-sided tape with a very strong acrylic adhesive, as used on Scotch "invisible " tape.
The tape itself is usually thin, malleable tissue, but some varieties have little or no tape, the adhesive being simply printed onto the silicone backing paper. This peels off leaving a sheet of glue to which the material of one's choice can be attached. You can make custom tape gags of any shape or size in any cloth, plastic, leather or rubber. Gurning* guaranteed! There is often a slight residue problem, and of course the gag must be prepared in advance, but it's also very good for holding and sealing OTM gags. * Gurning or girning is the traditional British sport of competitive face-pulling. |
| Phimophilus |
| Sunday December 21 07:28:39 2003 The Wild Card |
| Whilst surfing the IMDB I came across an independent 2003 film starring Barbra Alyn Woods and Hillary Tuck called "The Wild Card" (a movie not the TV series).
The synopsis reads "A Los Angeles trophy wife and her beautiful step daughter are kidnapped in Las Vegas by four gangsters with murky motives." A link to the website outlining the plot (with at least 1 interesting picture) is below. Anyone seen this film and if so anything in it of interest? |
| 154roma |
| http://hometown.aol.com/marsfilmhq4/myhomepage/index.html/ |
| Sunday December 21 09:47:38 2003 Charmed ("Valhalley of the Dolls") |
| Mark C wrote:
> We have a new record for the worlds shortest scene tonight on the Charmed season premiere. About an hour and twenty minutes into it Piper and three Valkeries leave a biker gang bound and gagged in an alley. There were at least two girls in the gang. Don't blink and you'll still miss it. ---- Needs to be added to the Scene Database. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday December 21 10:01:15 2003 Re: The Wild Card |
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> Anyone seen this film and if so anything in it of interest? well I haven't seen it YET but I'm sure gonna make it a point to now... One of the pics on the site shows Hillary getting tied and Barbara in a chair behind her with her hands tied (Barbara is mostly totally blocked) |
| Snowcat |
| Sunday December 21 12:51:18 2003 Rampage (2003) & Rampage (1992) |
| Has anyone seen these movies?
Rampage (2003) - "Steve Sayre and Garrett Stewart Sayre star in this thriller as Agent Steve Stone and Sergeant Jim Stone, two brothers whose assassination of a Columbian drug lord has upset his cartel. To exact revenge, the cartel plans not only to murder the brothers, but also to stage a full assault on Washington D.C. and kidnap Steve's fiance." The plot sounds stupid enough to have a good scene. ---------------------- Rampage (1992) - Found this write-up somewhere: "Billy Friedkin is an unflinching filmmaker that never pulls a punch. He’ll show you things that you wish you never saw and that certainly you can never forget. The bloody crucifix masturbation scene from EXORCIST, the bridge crossing scene in SORCEROR, pretty much CRUISING in its entirety, two of the greatest car chases in film history FRENCH CONNECTION & TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A., the bound and gagged rape scene of RAMPAGE, that car/pedestrian hit in JADE..." ------ Both sound like they are worth checking out, although I could do without the rape. Can't find 'em in vid stores near me. |
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| Sunday December 21 12:58:20 2003 Mandy Moore |
| I just caught the Mandy Moore scene on "The Osbourne family Christmas"
(and added it to the Db) She was very cute..too bad the scene was a joke. I've never really noticed her before (kiddypop & all) Boy would I love to see her get a full treatment in a movie or video |
| Snowcat |
| Sunday December 21 13:21:20 2003 Re: Mandy Moore |
| Snowcat wrote:
> Boy would I love to see her get a full treatment in a > movie or video. You and me, both. A few years ago, I just wanted her gagged so she'd have to stop talking. Now, though, things have changed. With all her acting roles, I'd expect some action for her in 2004 or 2005. |
| gasface |
| Sunday December 21 16:56:37 2003 Stephanie Plum |
| Since we are on the topic of books with bondage, check out "Hard Eight" by Janet Evanovich. I just finished it,(funny book, funny series, hysterical grandmother. I've read four in the series within the last week.)and along the way, Steph and her sister get bound & gagged with duct-tape. Like I wasn't already thinking the books would make great movies.
In another book, there is also a reference to her having been naked & cuffed to a shower rod. |
| G-MaN |
| Sunday December 21 19:30:23 2003 The Wild Card |
| Does anyone know if the movie is out on VHS or DVD yet? |
| Gbabyman |
| Sunday December 21 19:33:13 2003 Re: Mandy Moore |
| Snowcat wrote:
> > > Boy would I love to see her get a full treatment in a movie or video. I wanna tie up you, if only for a night, to be the one who ties your arms and gags you tight, I wanna tie up you, there's nothin more to say, there's nothin else I want more then to tie you this day. |
| Timmy |
| huskers4life_1@yahoo.com |
| Sunday December 21 19:40:08 2003 Hard to find videos |
| If anyone is looking for any old and hard to find non adult videos and if you live in Houston,Texas. There is a place called Audio/Visual plus. They have all the classics, TV, and more. If they don't have it in stock, they can order it for you. |
| Sunday December 21 21:17:28 2003 LotR:RotK |
| I saw it today, & thought I'd mention that fans of male hobbit mummification & bare-chested rope bondage are gonna like it. (...& by the way... ITS A GREAT MOVIE!!!)
New topic: "Van's Fiction" is updated---Chapter 5 of "Chattel Mountain Lodge: Personnel Problem" is posted. |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Sunday December 21 21:23:18 2003 Hooch |
| I was just reminded of a movie that was acutally out on VHS a while back...but I;ve never seen it capped... The movie was called "Hooch"...does anyone have it on a site somewhere? |
| Sunday December 21 21:37:35 2003 Re: Rampage |
| That bit about the Friedkin version of Rampage is interesting. I checked it out on the IMDB, and apparnetly, it never got released properly because of the bankruptcy of DeLaurentis studios. I found a reference to "tie up and gagged raped scenes in Hollywood" (said Hollywood did this all the time -- HA!) in the user comments of the movie.
It's not in our database, but that coudl be because of the lack of promotion and distribution. I've never heard of it. Is anyone up on this film? |
| Pat Powers |
| Sunday December 21 23:08:52 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| mornad wrote:
> I think Pat and kinky-napper raise valid points here. It > seems to me that if you want to make a mainstream movie > with a some tie up scenes in it, why would you want to > run the risk of having the movie branded a non-mainstream > adult movie by bring in themes or referneces to the > fetish or bondage industry. In all likelihood, those > storylines will push all the wrong buttons. In addition, > as kinky-napper has pointed out, the adult sex scene has > not drawn a whole lot of mainstream film interest. IMO, > any type of sexual theme in a bondage-laden movie will > run the risk of being labeled an adult movie. About the > only really successful movie with a hot bondage scene > that also explored a sexual aspect was the movie Bound, > but even Bound had nonsexual aspects involving a mobster > and, IIRC, the sexual relationship between the females > did not involve bondage or kink. I think you can make a > mainstream movie with a few bondage scenes in it, but I > think that you would need to stick with very maintream > type of themes and storylines i.e. crime drama, spy thriller etc. I think the clear dividing line you're talking about only exists in mainstream films. B level films and indie films have much less concern about being considered "porn" or "porn-ish." I've read several mainstream critics compalining that A level Hollywood films have little or no nudity, much less sex -- generally just a set of female breasts to give the movie an R rating, most of the time. OTOH, B movies and especially indies have given us all sorts of good stuff of late. May I say, "Spun"? May I say, "Fast Sofa"? May I say "Cold Heart"? May I say "Bound"? May I say "Birthday Girl"? Etc. etc. For these movies the competition to get theater seats is so intense that they use sex and sexual bondage imagery to advance their cause very aggressively. Barring unforeseen changes, I expect this trend to continue into the future indefinitely. |
| Pat Powers |
| Sunday December 21 23:29:08 2003 Re: the Batgirl quote |
| > Catwoman had her male minions do the manual labor for
> her. Unfortunately, TVLand has edited out Kitt's > wonderful command, which was something like "Felix! > Gag her... I don't want to hear any more nonsense." The quote is forever burned into my adolescent subconscious. It is, "Gag her! Crimefighters should be seen and not heard." Why I find it so sexy, I don't know, but I do... |
| Mo |
| mcholewa@hotmail.com |
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