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Thursday December 04 00:27:41 2003
Re: Days Of Our Lives possibility
Tapemaster wrote:

> In the preview for
> tomorrow's episode, somebody comes up behind
> "Marlena" (Deidre Hall)and whips a scarf around
> her throat.

Nope, it's just foreplay.(See link for spoilers.) BTW, the victim count is up to five.
G-MaN
http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/SoapScoops.html
Thursday December 04 01:10:18 2003
Re: Major John
Bill wrote:

> Bummer. It looks like we lost another great contributor
> to this site. This is getting old. The iron fist needs to
> relax!

Oh yes, mean old me.

Look, I don't care that much if people want to say I'm
too strict or overly narrow in what I allow. That's a
matter of opinion.

When people state that I am unfair or mercurial in my
rulings, then I get pretty steamed. And that what's
Major John did.

Go back and read what he posted again. Talking about
my moods and stuff, that was just way out of line
and he got called on it. Then rather than suck it up
and take it, he going to "punish" us by withholding
update notices. What kind of childishness is that?

I'm not the one you should be pissed at. I didn't
block him, he's free to post what amounts to unpaid
ads for his site if he wants. Instead of being grateful
for the free publicity, he's going to "show me" by
not showing you all.

Like I've said, I've been running this for a number of
years now. If one of you thinks you can do it better,
be my guest. Put up a competitor and dazzle us with your
Solomon-like wisdom and fairness in moderating the
forums.

I'll bet you find it's a lot easier to sit on the
sidelines and complain. I do things the way I do because
I think it works best. I get no thrill from it. Last
night's contretemps took away from valuable hockey
watching time.

You don't have to agree, you just have to abide by the
rules.


The Moderator
Thursday December 04 01:24:46 2003
Re: Major John
> You don't have to agree, you just have to abide by the
rules.

Hear hear.

Your board, your money, your rules. You get beaten about a lot, but let it be known you and this forum are appreciated.
Lord Zoltar
Thursday December 04 06:50:47 2003
The Score
After watching this movie, which contained a handgag scene at the very beginning, I checked the Database to see whether it had been entered. When I didn't see an entry for this scene, I proceeded to compose a fairly detailed one and submitted it.
Hadji
Thursday December 04 07:08:21 2003
Las Vegas
I just watch Monday's Las Vegas, episode Year of the Tiger,
Jaymee Ong and Rebecca Lin play the daughters of a big shot. At the end they are arrested for murder and marched out of the casino with their hands cuffed behind their backs. They are wearing slinky off the shoulder halter tops. Short but sweet scene. I added the sceen to the data base.
Boyo
Thursday December 04 08:12:07 2003
Gag Without Rope
On "Beauty and The Beast" (TV Series), Linda Hamilton
was kidnapped by 2 guys who tape gagged her on the stairs.
The 2 villains grabbed her arm but they did not tie her.
Thursday December 04 08:53:09 2003
Re: Major John
Hey Brian

Keep up the great work

Non illigitamus carborundum



Jacot
Thursday December 04 09:52:06 2003
Re: Major John
Jacot wrote:

> Hey Brian
>
> Keep up the great work
>
> Non illigitamus carborundum
>
>
>

I always thought it was "Illigitimi non carborundum."

Besides, can't you still get Major John's updates from other bondage sites.....like his own, perhaps. LOL
John Quincannon
Thursday December 04 10:18:51 2003
Aaaaargh
"How could I not see him coming in.....?"
http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/18/18392/091803bj.jpg
Thursday December 04 10:43:40 2003
Re: Gag Without Rope
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>

The age old question; what's more important, the binding or the gagging. Personally, if a villain doesn't restrain, the gag is not a gag. So, although I'm a gag snob, some type of restraint is required. However, it can be holding the arms or wrists. That's acceptable.
doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Thursday December 04 10:51:41 2003
Re: Gag Without Rope
However, if a Dind is untied and still carries the gag for a while, that's pretty neat (eg Kim Cattrall)

Thursday December 04 11:47:36 2003
Re: Las Vegas
Boyo wrote:

> I just watch Monday's Las Vegas, episode Year of the
> Tiger,
> Jaymee Ong and Rebecca Lin play the daughters of a big
> shot. At the end they are arrested for murder and marched
> out of the casino with their hands cuffed behind their
> backs. They are wearing slinky off the shoulder halter
> tops. Short but sweet scene.

I'll respectively disagree. The standard females being arrested scenes don't really qualify as "bondage" scenes for me, and in this case I don't think the cuffs were actually shown. My bigger complaint is the show in general. Most of us thought "Las Vegas" had to be a sure bet to deliver something with Vanessa Marcil, Nikki Cox, Molly Sims, Cheryl Ladd.....did I say Vanessa Marcil?.....man the list is endless. My vote for the biggest bust of the TV season, but it does have a full-year run, so maybe down the line.
Thursday December 04 11:55:51 2003
Re: Las Vegas
> "Las Vegas" had to be a sure bet to deliver
> something with Vanessa Marcil, Nikki Cox, Molly Sims,
> Cheryl Ladd.....did I say Vanessa Marcil?.....man the
> list is endless. My vote for the biggest bust of the TV
> season,

Of course, Charlie's Angels didn't have a B&G scene until way into the 2nd season
Bosley
Thursday December 04 13:30:21 2003
Haunted Harbor
Nice way to sell a couple more copies
http://art.half.ebay.com/prod/1381191.jpeg
Thursday December 04 13:38:20 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Taped to a chair ain't bad either

http://www.bindher.com/origpooh/scenes/100/op100_01.jpg
Thursday December 04 13:49:29 2003
Criteria for Database
What does belong in the database? For example LOST IN SPACE "Princess of Space" Marta Kristen is handgagged by Robert Foulk and carried off. This is an excellent DID scene but contains no bondage.Another DID scene which contains no bondage is the pilot episode of STARGATE SG1 when Vaitiare Bandera is stripped naked by henchmen and placed on a slab and subjected to some form of torture by a ray of light.DID scenes do not require bondage to be effective.
Thursday December 04 14:18:06 2003
Re: Las Vegas
Bosley wrote:

> Of course, Charlie's Angels didn't have a B&G scene
> until way into the 2nd season

Absolutely, and others also had nothing in early seasons. Heather Locklear wasn't gagged until Season 4 and Teri Hatcher wasn't gagged until Season 2. The difference is "Vegas" is having 2 to 3 storylines per episode, as opposed to Lois Lane or Stacy Sheridan chasing one set of bad guys for an hour or the Angels focusing on just 1 case. In "Vegas" they've got the hotties on separate storylines, which cuts their screentime and makes it tougher to find time for them to get into trouble.
Thursday December 04 15:15:59 2003
Recent Entry [9461]- One Favour?
Record number: 6346

Title: Score, The (2001)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Unknown

Description: Thief Nick Wells (Robert De Niro) executes a hand-gag on a lovely party-goer in the film's opening sequence. Reasonably long scene, and nobody gets hurt.
______________

Record number: 9461

Title: The Score
Medium: Movie
Actress: Marie-Josee D'Amours

Description: Ms. D'Amours plays a partygoer who temporarily leaves the festivities with her boyfriend for an amorous romp in the study. Upon entering the study, they settle on a leather couch and commence their prurient activities. He becomes disenchanted when she produces a joint and begins smoking it, and exits the study, leaving her alone.
Unbeknownst to her, Robert DeNiro, who plays a highly skilled thief, is in the process of robbing the safe in the study, and she and her boyfriend have rudely interrupted his endeavor. He is hiding beside the couch on which she is recumbent, smoking a joint. She spies his burglary tools and his feet and stands up to investigate. When she does, he sneaks behind her and applies a forceful handgag, keeping her face turned away from his. He sternly warns her to not look behind, releases his handgag, and vacates the premises, absconding with his tools and score, leaving her whimpering in the darkened study.
This scene occurs at the very beginning of the movie. Ms. D'Amours is wearing a sexy and dark party dress, and makes some "mmmph" sounds as the handgag is applied over her mouth.
________________

One favour,
ask if you ID an actress and want a better description, etc?
Let me know over on the Database Corrections Page.
Easier for me to sort it that way.
Thanx
Jay
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0227445/
Thursday December 04 17:09:05 2003
Re: Recent Entry [9461]- One Favour?
Jay wrote:

> Record number: 6346
>
> Title: Score, The (2001)
> Medium: Movie
> Actress: Unknown
>
>

Did you see this in an edited version? I seem to recall a scene like that with De Niro in a movie where the hand gag was followed by rape. Am I scene creeping?
doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Thursday December 04 17:52:54 2003
Re: Days Of Our Lives possibility
Tapemaster wrote:

> A storyline that has been going on for some time now
> involves a serial killer. So far, 4 characters have been
> killed off. Previews say that "the Salem serial
> killer will finally be revealed." In the preview for
> tomorrow's episode, somebody comes up behind
> "Marlena" (Deidre Hall)and whips a scarf around
> her throat.

Geez, this sounds like a rerun. The last time they had a serial killer--well, one of the times, anyway--he actually *killed* Marlena. turned out it was her twin sister, played by Diedre Hall's twin sister. If they're recycling the whole plot, there are lots of possibilities besides bondage. Wonder if they are supposed to be triplets?
Paul
Thursday December 04 18:27:19 2003
Gag Without Rope
In "Plato's Run": Kathy (Maggie Myatt) was kidnapped by
the villains in Cuba. When Plato, her father (Gary Busey)
show up, the villain drag her out of the limo, tape
gagged, but not bound. 2 villains held her arm.
Thursday December 04 19:47:15 2003
Re: Major John
Lord Zoltar wrote:

> > You don't have to agree, you just have to abide by
> the
> rules.
>
> Hear hear.
>
> Your board, your money, your rules. You get beaten about
> a lot, but let it be known you and this forum are
> appreciated.


I Agree. Some of my posts have been moved, and I think I may have a couple deleted. I don't remember and I really don't care. The Moderator is like an umpire in a baseball game. He calls them as he sees them, even though we may see it different(like recently with the JOE MILLIONAIRE incident). I may not agree with him all the time, but it is his call. He does the job pretty fairly. It's not an eawsy job sometimes, but he does it damn good. Hell, he'll propably delete this for being off topic!!

Legend of the Wolf
legendofthewolf@yaho.com
Thursday December 04 19:59:11 2003
Site updates
I haven't posted in a while (sorry), but I have been updating my site. You'll find new vidcaps, scans, and new chapters of my bondage fiction. Enjoy.
Doug R
Knotbuster@lycos.com
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/knotbusters/index.html
Thursday December 04 21:37:25 2003
Re: Gag Without Rope
I think if the gagged girl is restrained in some way (like her arms pinned by a villain) then that does it for me. However there have been some dumb scenes where a gag is just shoved into the mouth and the unbound damsel just sits there as if she can't just open her mouth and spit it up. LAME!!! If there was a term for a "loosie" but pertaining to those psuedogags(come on Van, can you think up something). Another scene that comes to mind is the VIP scene where Pam and associate get taped gagged but not bound. WHAT A PATHETIC BUNCH OF VILLIANS!!!
Paco The Bandit
Thursday December 04 23:30:30 2003
Re: Gag Without Rope
Paco The Bandit wrote:

> I think if the gagged girl is restrained in some way
> (like her arms pinned by a villain) then that does it for
> me. However there have been some dumb scenes where a gag
> is just shoved into the mouth and the unbound damsel just
> sits there as if she can't just open her mouth and spit
> it up. LAME!!! If there was a term for a
> "loosie" but pertaining to those
> psuedogags(come on Van, can you think up something).
> Another scene that comes to mind is the VIP scene where
> Pam and associate get taped gagged but not bound. WHAT A PATHETIC BUNCH OF VILLIANS!!!

Since my opinion was solicited by name...

"Pseudo-gag" is as good a term as any. For me, the most interesting aspect is how "loosie" bondage has become so entrenched. It's perfectly understandable that the realities of the stage & movie/TV production complicate EVERYTHING; but ain't it interesting that what probably started as the only way one could depict bondage on the stage, namely, tying the actress loosely & in such a way that her rescuer could easily untie her, turned into a CONVENTION. The Damsel-in-Distress is a dramatic mainstay. One expects to see it over & over, & we do; but it's rare to see the real thing, an actress rendered truely helpless. I remember seeing Victorian illustrations from Historical novels (William Tell, etc.) in which the hero & companion (sidekick, whatever) were being overpowered by enemy men-at-arms, & they were being tied up, rags stuffed in their mouths, & bandage-like cloths to keep the rags in. In other words... REAL GAGS. It's not like the gag is a Modern Invention. What we're seeing is this weird Dramatic Convention thing. No conspiracy; it's not incompetence; it's a CULTURAL THING.

It's like car chases. Someone invented burying a hydraulic or explosive ram in the path of a car to lift it into the air... & the careening, flying, cork-screwing magic car was born. How many times have you seen that gag---a car's speeding down an LA highway, it clips a parked car, & defying all the laws of physics, LAUNCHES itself into the air?

Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Thursday December 04 23:47:27 2003
Re: Gag Without Rope
(Sorry, I hit "Submit" too soon by mistake.)

My point with the Flying Car thing is... it's ALSO a Cultural Thing.

Movie & TV bondage has become HIGHLY conventional; that is, we are EXPECTED to accept loosie ropes & obviously ineffectual gags.

Now... conventions & cliches get punctured all the time, sometimes with artistic merit. We can rest assured that now & them *someone* will see the merit of doing the DiD thing right.

On the other hand, Ron Howard just did the DiD thing more-or-less VERY right in "The Missing"... & us guys here at Brian's spent several days alternately praising it to the heavens & picking it apart. We're a beast that cannot be fed!
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

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