|
|
Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
|
|
| Friday December 19 00:02:28 2003 Re: All My Children- Tomorrow |
| > Question- is this the place
> to post this kind of weak possibility. I've always figured that the VCR Alerts page is not the place for speculation. If I KNOW a scene is coming, that's where I put it. If I'm just alerting folks to a possibility, then I post to Discussion. |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound |
| Friday December 19 00:42:15 2003 Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Has anyone ever thought of writing and producing a movie where the fetish (and in particular bondage) industry was the central theme? Here are a couple of possibilities:
1. A police detective and a fetish model team up to capture a serial kidnapper who abducts women at random and forces his victims to serve as his personal fetish models. 2. A docudrama about the everyday life of a fetish model since the start of her career. What actors and actresses could star in these vehicles? I appreciate everyone's input. |
| Del |
| Friday December 19 02:10:18 2003 Re: All My Children- Tomorrow |
| RON wrote:
> weak possibility. As much as I'd love to be proven wrong, I don't think we'll see much here. I actually follow this show (my girlfriend got me into it) and from what I can tell, Maria's (Eva LaRue) husband is leaving tomorrow with another guy (Juan Pablo) to hunt down some bad people. Juan Pablo has blamed her in the past for the death of his brother, so in all likelihood, it will be this guy apologizing and saying goodbye or her husband telling her goodbye. Now, what I'd like to see is that the bad guys caught wind, figured they need a hostage, target Maria first then go after Juan Pablo's girlfriend, Greenlee (Rebecca Budig)...then just take hostage every single female on the show. Hey, you never know... :-) |
| Goten |
| Friday December 19 04:41:28 2003 Women B&Ged by other women? |
| Can you suggest any movies where the damsel in distress is bound and gagged by another women? The only thing that comes to mind right now is Single White Female. |
| Friday December 19 05:34:23 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Can you suggest any movies where the damsel in distress > is bound and gagged by another women? The only thing that > comes to mind right now is Single White Female. I know that there are quite a few movies that incorporate this into their plots, but the one that immediately comes to mind is "Urban Legend", in which Alicia Witt is bound and gagged by Rebecca Gayheart. Also, Heather Thomas was bound and gagged by Mary Crosby on an episode of "The Fall Guy". |
| Hadji |
| Friday December 19 05:59:38 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Can you suggest any movies where the damsel in distress > is bound and gagged by another women? The only thing that > comes to mind right now is Single White Female. There was an episode of Relic Hunter where Tina Carrere ties and gags a woman spy. |
| Friday December 19 06:49:48 2003 Women B&Ged by other women? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Can you suggest any movies where the damsel in distress is bound and gagged by another women? ---- There are MANY examples of the evil captor(s) being a female (well, once one goes outside of the Lifetime channel). E.g., TV soap operas have been rife with storylines of psycho females who kidnap and b&g their rivals. And "The Avengers" had a number of episodes (you can check out the "Scene Database") where Emma Peel and Tara King either were b&g'd by an evil female agent, or turning the tables on them. Another favorite TV moment would include Valerie Bertinelli gagging Stepfanie Kramer onscreen in The Hardy Boys ("Campus Terror"). Likewise, there are several movies with this theme -- one the best being Anjanette Comer being b&g'd onscreen in "The Baby" (1972). "Woman Hunt" had multiple women b&g'd by their evil wardens. Another example is "Genesis II" (1973). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday December 19 09:18:46 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Can you suggest any movies where the damsel in > distress is bound and gagged by another women? A nice one is "Malicious", where Sarah Lassez is tied to a bed & tightly cleave gagged by Molly Ringwald's character. Molly then straddles sarah & taunts her for awhile & threatens her with (I believe) a knife. Nice scene of pretty good length. Readily available on video too! "Play Misty for Me" is another nice one....classic with Donna Mills tied, gagged, & taunted by Jessica walters. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Friday December 19 09:34:51 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Del wrote:
> Has anyone ever thought of writing and producing a movie > where the fetish (and in particular bondage) industry was > the central theme? Here are a couple of possibilities: It does seem like a good idea to us, but there are a couple of problems with the basic plan. First off, if any of us where good enough writers to have a movie produced, we propably would have. Second, there are propably few, if any of us, who have access to a mainstream producer with enough clout to get what would be a limited audience movie produced. Third, no matter how much mainstream elements you incorporate into a script, more than likly it's gonna come off as a hardcore porn flick (which is how most "mainstream" people propably feel about our kinda movie). Fourth, I don't think there are a lot of mainstream actresses and actors would agree to be in such movies. Let's face it. Our thing just isn't mainstream, and nothing we do is gonna change that. Heck, someday they may make a bioflick about Bettie Page (which would probbly gloss over the "good" stuff) but there ain't no Hollywood producer gonna make a bioflick about any of the actresses who make non-mainstream stuff like we like. Although I am sure some of those actresses life's would make a good movie. As for your ideas, most have been already been made into non-mainstream movies. |
| Legend of the Wolf |
| Legendofthewolf@yahoo.com |
| Friday December 19 09:53:54 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| > Has anyone ever thought of writing and producing a movie
> where the fetish (and in particular bondage) industry was > the central theme? Here are a couple of possibilities: I seem to recall that there has been some discussion of that topic. > > 1. A police detective and a fetish model team up to > capture a serial kidnapper who abducts women at random > and forces his victims to serve as his personal fetish > models. Several movies very close to this have been made, though the villain is always a murderer or serial killer, and the movies are always waaay short on bondage imagery. Frex, Love.com involves a parole officer whose sister is killed. Her sister has been working as a fetish model for a website called -- get this -- Love.com. So she decides to investigate her sister's death by getting a job as a fetish model for Love.com. Considering all the potential here, the movie has very, very little bondage imagery. The Unspeakable has Athena Massey as a cop on the trail of serial killer who ties up his victims and plays bondage games with them before killing them. The scenario is complicated because Massey herself is involved in a bondage and dominance relationship with her cop partner. Once again, very little in the way of bondage imagery here, given the nature of the plot. There are several others as well, but they all have this in common: they suck. |
| Pat Powers |
| Friday December 19 11:06:48 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| > > > Can you suggest any movies where the damsel in
> > > distress is bound and gagged by another women? > That amazing German one that was so recently presented by Raffish: "You Have My Family's Trust". |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound |
| Friday December 19 11:15:58 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| Numerous soap opera scenes (nice one with Kelly Ripa a while back)
|
| Friday December 19 12:31:38 2003 Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Del wrote:
> Has anyone ever thought of writing and producing a movie where the fetish (and in particular bondage) industry was the central theme? Here are a couple of possibilities: 1. A police detective and a fetish model team up to capture a serial kidnapper who abducts women at random and forces his victims to serve as his personal fetish models. 2. A docudrama about the everyday life of a fetish model since the start of her career. ---- Like Legend of the Wolf's post, I just don't see much likelihood of this, with the exception of perhaps a big-budget bio of Bettie Page -- which *might* have one scene of her years modelling and acting for Irving & Paula Klaw (which would be another instance of women b&g'ing other women). The job of mainstream movie production is to fill a lot of theater seats with paying customers. Or at least be recognized as an "artistic success" as one of those films that garner Oscar nominations but are seemingly seen only by movie critics. A traditional "kiss-of-death" is getting an "X" or NC-17 film rating. And that's the rating a film depicting long, loving minutes and closeups to the binding & gagging (with something more imaginative than duct tape), and strugging/mmphing of numerous women would receive. The closest moviedom has come to fetishy bondage-edged films has been 1972's "The Abductors" and the European-produced "The Story of O" (which got an "X"-rating back in 1975) and "Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of the Yik-Yak". Realistically, a half-hearted "G" film effort starring kids & pets is gonna get many times the receipts of a well-done film on a particular fetish. The fact that the three fetishy films above are not exactly among Amazon.com's biggest video/DVD sellers would support that we're a "niche" audience. I just don't think there's that much mainstream interest on bondage fetish modelling. Heck, there've been darn few films made about the high fashion industry, and that'd generate a greater general audience. There've been a few "B" (or lower) documentaries about the life of strippers/exotic dancers or on a bikini contest, but with the exception of "The Making of Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Issue" videos, it's hard to remember any of their titles and they're not exactly burning up the Best-Seller lists. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday December 19 13:26:02 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Legend of the Wolf wrote:
> Del wrote: > > > Has anyone ever thought of writing and producing a > movie > > where the fetish (and in particular bondage) > industry was > > the central theme? Here are a couple of > possibilities: > > It does seem like a good idea to us, but there are a > couple of problems with the basic plan. First off, if any > of us where good enough writers to have a movie produced, > we propably would have. Second, there are propably few, > if any of us, who have access to a mainstream producer > with enough clout to get what would be a limited audience > movie produced. Third, no matter how much mainstream > elements you incorporate into a script, more than likly > it's gonna come off as a hardcore porn flick (which is > how most "mainstream" people propably feel > about our kinda movie). Fourth, I don't think there are a > lot of mainstream actresses and actors would agree to be > in such movies. > > Let's face it. Our thing just isn't mainstream, and > nothing we do is gonna change that. Heck, someday they > may make a bioflick about Bettie Page (which would > probbly gloss over the "good" stuff) but there > ain't no Hollywood producer gonna make a bioflick about > any of the actresses who make non-mainstream stuff like > we like. Although I am sure some of those actresses > life's would make a good movie. > > As for your ideas, most have been already been made into non-mainstream movies. Yeah, but did any of you consider AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS? Its a mainstream show of the people and by the people. All you need is a camcorder some rope, a willing female, a gag, and a stupid idea and you've just produced your own MAINSTREAM BONDAGE SCENE. If any of you wish to give it a shot but can't come up with any idea please email me cause I've got lots of ideas for bondage skits for that show. Not only might you win their grand prise money but you'd be responseable for bringing more bondage scenes into the world. Hey, its better than sitting around waiting for SHE SPIES to deliver. |
| benny |
| benfartsfire@yahoo.com |
| Friday December 19 13:32:01 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
|
"The Baron" ep in which Cordelia (Sue Lloyd) is b&g in an ambulance, and turns the tables on her female guard. "Die, Die My Darling." Stephanie Powers tied by two women. There are instances in "Doctor Who", too; see DB. And, of course, Yvonne Craig's (sigh) brilliant tape gag scene in UNCLE's "The Brain Killer Affair." |
| Mad Dan |
| Friday December 19 14:20:17 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| Mad Dan wrote:
> And, of course, Yvonne Craig's (sigh) brilliant tape gag > scene in UNCLE's "The Brain Killer Affair." Ms. Craig often seemed to suffer at the hands of other women. She was b & g'ed by Catwoman (Eartha Kitt version) in the "fashion design" scenario, though don't recall whether or not CatKitt was working with male henchmen in that one. Alas TV Land heavily edited that... Craig/Batgirl was also caught by Lady Penelope Peasoup and her female gang, then chained (but not gagged) in a dungeon, Peasoup and co. being allied with Lord Ffogg aka Rudy Vallee. |
| Anthony |
| Friday December 19 15:36:44 2003 Batman ("Catwoman's Dressed to Kill") |
| > Yvonne Craig often seemed to suffer at the hands of other women. She was b & g'ed by Catwoman (Eartha Kitt version) in the "fashion design" scenario, though don't recall whether or not CatKitt was working with male henchmen in that one. Alas TV Land heavily edited that...
---- Catwoman had her male minions do the manual labor for her. Unfortunately, TVLand has edited out Kitt's wonderful command, which was something like "Felix! Gag her... I don't want to hear any more nonsense." |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday December 19 15:48:01 2003 Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| Here is a US source for the nice, wide, and very sticky Elastoplast.
http://www.elitemedical.com/elastoplast5.html |
| Tom Quin |
| tmquin@attglobal.net |
| Friday December 19 15:48:22 2003 VCR Alerts |
| Just a quick question about that section. If I click on the VCR alerts for Sunday (as an example)and it says that there is something on at 1:30am. Does this mean that it will be on that night or it was on the night before? |
| Friday December 19 15:52:02 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
|
> > Yeah, but did any of you consider AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME > VIDEOS? Its a mainstream show of the people and by the > people. All you need is a camcorder some rope, a willing > female, a gag, and a stupid idea and you've just produced > your own MAINSTREAM BONDAGE SCENE. > Again, it probably wouldn't work. Although occasionally staged clips do get shown, the show's producers are pretty good at spotting "accidents" that are set up to look natural. The closest we could propaably come to something they might remotlely consider might be a Magician's Assisant type scenario. The best hope there would be some of their ASSIGNMENT AMERICA contests. Although some softcore producer might want to produce a "Bondage blooper" tape. I think even I would order a flick like that. |
| Legend of the Wolf |
| Friday December 19 15:53:20 2003 Re: VCR Alerts |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Just a quick question about that section. If I click on > the VCR alerts for Sunday (as an example)and it says that > there is something on at 1:30am. Does this mean that it > will be on that night or it was on the night before? I have found that usually this means its going to be on very early in the morning. |
| Friday December 19 16:03:39 2003 Re: VCR Alerts |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > Does this mean that > it > > will be on that night or it was on the night > before? > > I have found that usually this means its going to be on > very early in the morning. > There's no set policy for this. I post early morning alerts on the previous day's page ... something for early tomorrow would appear on today's page like this: 130AM PT (Saturday morning) I think that eliminates any confusion. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Friday December 19 16:08:46 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| Tom Quin wrote:
Here is a US source for the nice, wide, and very sticky Who needs the UN, when we have this fine example of international co-operation? Thanks. |
| Major John |
| Friday December 19 16:18:35 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| > Here is a US source for the nice, wide, and very sticky
> Elastoplast. "They provide excellent compression and support. Clips and extra tape are eliminated due to the strong adhesive. 100% cotton backing. Conforms to the body while allowing stretching and movement. Will not loosen." |
| http://www.elitemedical.com/elastoplast5.html |
| Friday December 19 16:20:40 2003 Re: Elastoplast: |
| > Will not loosen.
> I'm sure she could give a testimonial |
 |
| Friday December 19 16:21:07 2003 Re: VCR Alerts |
| can anybody tell me if Pacific Blue (Paula Trickey) is on tonight or was on yesterday?? |
| Friday December 19 16:23:34 2003 VCR Alerts |
| > > Just a quick question about that section. If I click on the VCR alerts for Sunday (as an example) and it says that
> > there is something on at 1:30am. Does this mean that it will be on that night or it was on the night before? > > > I have found that usually this means its going to be on very early in the morning. ---- Yes, that's the way I post VCR Alerts. 1) It matches how VCRs are programmed. 11:59PM means tonight. 12:01AM means the next calendar day to the VCR. 2) It's also how TV Guide magazine, etc. are laid out. 3) 3rd-shifters and Rock stars aside, using the calendar is how the majority of people define "day". 4) If in doubt, CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF. Take a li'l effort, and click to an online TV program guide, or look up your local newspaper or TV Guide magazine, if the possible scene means so much to you. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday December 19 16:55:20 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Legend of the Wolf wrote:
> > Yeah, but did any of you consider AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME > > VIDEOS? Its a mainstream show of the people and by the > > people. > > Again, it probably wouldn't work. Although occasionally > staged clips do get shown, the show's producers are > pretty good at spotting "accidents" that are > set up to look natural. They occasionally show home-made comedy sketches that last a minute or more. One featured, sadly, a putz. Another featured two putzes in a pillory after they tried to harass a "jackalope". Maybe someone has seen one that actually does feature a DiD? I rarely even see the show anymore. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Friday December 19 17:13:03 2003 Re: Batman ("Catwoman's Dressed to Kill") |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
Catwoman had her male minions do the manual labor for her. Unfortunately, TVLand has edited out Kitt's wonderful command, which was something like "Felix! Gag her... I don't want to hear any more nonsense." The line was "Crimefighters should be seen and not heard," I think. |
| John Quincannon |
| Friday December 19 17:22:57 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| > Here is a US source for the nice, wide, and very
> sticky > > Elastoplast. > http://www.elitemedical.com/elastoplast5.html I'm not 100% sure but I think elastoplast has a slight waffle pattern weave to the non stick side and is not totally smooth, say the way 3M Microfoam is. Elastoplast is more like a rubbery and thicker coban weave (kind of smaller guaze texture). Hope that helps and does not confuse. |
| Friday December 19 17:25:24 2003 Lita |
| I was wondering if anyone knows where to find a RealPlayer file of her scene from dark Angel or have one themselves they can send me. My gf is a huge Lita fan and just found out she got tied up. If anyone can help me out, it would GREATLY appreciated.
savage011@yahoo.com |
| Friday December 19 18:27:52 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| Elastoplast is in fact a company trade name, as synonymous with adhesive medical dressings in the UK as Band-aid is in North America. They make all sorts of dressings and support bandages, including the elastic kind.
The fairly coarse woven fabric with a rubbery component used to be the principal form of dressing tape available here, until the advent of waterproof and eventually soft plastic perforated tapes. It is still readily available as small flesh-coloured individual dressings and strapping tape on rolls of various widths. You can stretch individual threads slightly, so the yarn presumably has a rubber core loosely wrapped with fibres, the ends of which stand up like a nap. The best-known mainstream use of the flesh-coloured variety was to gag and blindfold Camille Coduri in "A Touch of Frost." We are less familiar here with the white version, which seems to be mainly for export, or made by overseas branches of the company. I have before me an old roll, possibly of 1960s vintage, of narrow white tape made by Elastoplast, but it is not at all elastic, appearing to be plain white linen with the usual pungent, creamy zinc oxide adhesive common to most cloth-based dressings, including the stretchy type. Judging by the brand name, though, the latter was always the mainstay of the range until, say, the 1970s. The adhesive, though very sticky, has such an affinity for skin that after an hour or so it leaves an obstinate residue, removable only by vigorous washing with soapy water. It ain't cheap, either. :-( |
| Phimophilus |
| Friday December 19 18:39:59 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Here is a US source for the nice, wide, and very > > sticky > > > Elastoplast. > > http://www.elitemedical.com/elastoplast5.html > > I'm not 100% sure but I think elastoplast has a slight > waffle pattern weave to the non stick side and is not > totally smooth, say the way 3M Microfoam is. Elastoplast > is more like a rubbery and thicker coban weave (kind of > smaller guaze texture). Hope that helps and does not confuse. I've used both Microfoam and Elastoplast. Microfoam has a medium thickness, smooth and slightly spongy shiney plastic base. Elastoplast is a fairly course weaved cotton cloth base. Microfaom streatches more than Elastoplast. Elastoplast has one of the strongest "human rated" adhessives on the market, while being lightly tacky on first application it soon "cures" forming a very secure and very sticky bond to skin. When removed it leaves a rubbery residue (which is better than taking the top layer of the Damsel's skin.) I like it a LOT and prefer it to Microfoam for gag shots. Another medical tape seen in some DiD scenes is Durapore tape from 3M which has a shiney white silk cloth base through wuch it is possible to see lipstick. |
| Tom Quin |
| Friday December 19 18:58:19 2003 Re: Elastoplast: |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Will not loosen. > > > > I'm sure she could give a testimonial Yes, but who'd be able to understand it? {Rimshot} ...unless it was a *written* testimonial! (Rimshot} Thank you---I'll be here all week---Enjoy your waitress---Tip the veal. :-) |
| |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Friday December 19 22:01:21 2003 Re: Women B&Ged by other women? |
| I can't believe no one has mentioned the scene in the Melrose Place series finale. The damsel is knocked out, bound and gagged and stripped down to her nice little white bra and panties. Good scene til the putz well, putzes it all up.
|
| Paco The Bandit |
| Friday December 19 23:03:12 2003 Women Bound and gagged by other women |
| Not to mention the King's Thief where a bound Did actually requests to be gagged and a female companion chivalrously obliges her...... |
| Md |
| Friday December 19 23:15:43 2003 Re: Batman ("Catwoman's Dressed to Kill") |
| > The line was "Crimefighters should be seen and not
> heard," I think. Acutally, the line was... "Angora! Gag her! Crimefightresses should be seen and not heard! There...that's all we'll hear of HER nonsense! |
| Bob Nielsen |
| knightryderrwn@msn.com |
| Friday December 19 23:53:45 2003 Spanish Soaps |
| I upon review of today's catches I'm 2 for 2 if you're not a gag snob. "Uga Uga" had Vivianne Pasmante tied back to a guy til they started making out and broke free.(The binders made them strip before they tied them up.) Starts and ends in the first 20 minutes("Tarzan" should have been this bondage friendly.)
Then we went out to see "LOTR" tonight so I just flipped on the computer and started recording before "Pasions de Gavilanes" came on. So I wasn't home to realize I flicked to the wrong spanish channel. BUT, "El Manantial" started with a woman who's hands were taped in front. I didn't see last night's episode when this started so I don't know any of the details. |
| G-MaN |
| gman22471@yahoo.com |
| Friday December 19 23:55:49 2003 Re: Spanish Soaps |
| Needless to say, I have to ask the question: Did I miss any bondage on tonight's "Pasions de Gavilanes"? |
| G-MaN |
|
|