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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Saturday January 17 00:07:46 2004 Diet Ads |
| Are these the ones? |
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| Saturday January 17 00:27:39 2004 Big Fish |
| Brief hand gag in this new movie--one siamese twin handgags her sister--both wearing chorus girl outfits. |
| ss |
| Saturday January 17 00:51:36 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| Van wrote:
Van's Second Law of Mainstream DiD's: The realities of movie & TV production explain almost everything. :-) http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ Right on Van....a lot of analysis goes on regarding DiD scenes on the tube - but in reality, what you get at the end of the line is usally just a fluke... NO thought goes into the bondage beforehand other than the basic setup / scenario - diappointing for us, but reality unfortunately. When you have a scene such as Terror Among Us - while good - I'll guarantee you that approximately 30 secs worth of thought went into deciding how the ladies would be restrained ....a pity though for that one. |
| Major John |
| Saturday January 17 01:12:35 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| Ok, let's move on. Conspiracy theories are not on-topic.
The scene didn't happen, it's going to happen, quit worrying about it. Anything else will be moved to . . . well, you know where. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday January 17 01:41:20 2004 Sockpuppet Alert Question? - Anything Goes Page |
| Going to split this post in half for Mr Moderator.
Recollect of the Sockpuppet show will be posted on the Anything Goes Page. For here, when can get up Space/Imagination channel listings for 24th-night/early 25th morning, to confirm? Found this Julie Strain film in IMDB, "Battlequeen 2020" [Homepage Link], has Julie Strain in "spacebabe" outfit, and appears tamer than the Sockpuppet show one by IMDB description. Likely the one as personally find Space/Imagination channel the tamest of the CITY group. CITY channel itself, or Bravo? Say more possible for the Ed the Sockpuppet one. Holding off on alert for now. |
| Jay |
| http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0232098/ |
| Saturday January 17 01:42:48 2004 Amy Acker |
| According to spoiler sites Fred should be bound and gagged again in a future episode called "Why We Fight", some sort of WWII thing going on. It doesn't have the air date but I'd guess around next month. |
| Saturday January 17 03:33:03 2004 Re: Diet Ads |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Are these the ones? > That first one fit the description. Nice overusage of ropework. (Wish that was mentioned in the guy's description of it - I had no idea what to expect) Thanks for sharing. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Saturday January 17 04:33:39 2004 Kill Bill Vol.2 |
| I hope Uma Thurman is gagged in this one |
| Barnes |
| Saturday January 17 05:22:13 2004 A little bit of help? |
| Hi guys,
Though it HAS happened a few times before, it's rare that the TV stations in my small country make me face the following luxury problem: Tonight, one station airs the movie "vampires" (the Sheryl Lee scene). Beginning the exact same time, another airs "Anaconda" (J Lopez). "Vampires" lasts 25 minutes longer than "anaconda". Of course I would like to record both scenes. Therefore I ask you: does anyone know/recall where in the movies (beginning, middle, end) the scenes are? It doesn't say in the DB entries. (I am not sure if such a question is on topic, if not I guess I will be told) |
| Per |
| Saturday January 17 05:57:21 2004 John Carpenter's Vampires (1998) |
| > Tonight, one station airs the movie "vampires" (the Sheryl Lee scene). Beginning the exact same time, another airs "Anaconda" (J Lopez). "Vampires" lasts 25 minutes longer than "anaconda". Of course I would like to record both scenes.
Therefore I ask you: does anyone know/recall where in the movies (beginning, middle, end) the scenes are? It doesn't say in the DB entries. ---- I've only seen "John Carpenter's Vampires"; and my recollection is that Sheryl Lee's b&g scene occurs within the first 45 minutes. If someone has more precise info, it could be added to the "Database Corrections" page. IMO, when persons add an entry in the "Scene Database", one of the most IMPORTANT pieces of desireable info (in addition to whether there was a Gag or ot) that's of interest to everyone is at what point the scene occurs (e.g., Approx #Minutes mark, or at least "Beginning/Middle/End?"). Who wants to sit thru an entire 2-1/2 or 3 hour movie to catch a 10-second DiD scene? Or, as in the case above, there are occasions when two or more Database programs are airing at the same time. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Saturday January 17 06:21:37 2004 Re: Diet Ads |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Are these the ones? > I like the subject a lot, because I think the fact that ladies can be gagged for other reasons than just for preventing them to make noise is way underrated. A gag can also be applied to prevent the damsel from biting her captors - Michelle Johnson in "Blood Ties" comes to my mind. |
| PH |
| Saturday January 17 06:58:20 2004 Re: John Carpenter's Vampires (1998) |
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> does anyone know/recall where in the > movies (beginning, middle, end) the scenes are? Vampires is in the first half and JLo gets it near the end of Anaconda |
| Saturday January 17 07:20:06 2004 Re: John Carpenter's Vampires (1998) |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> my recollection is that Sheryl Lee's b&g scene occurs > within the first 45 minutes. Thanks, I will focus most on Vampires during that time. The Anaconda scene looks like it COULD be a climax scene near the end. That would fit perfectly; then, I HAVE been fooling myself with such assumptions before. I agree the "time info" is important. If you have it. I have made quite many entries based on caps, where this info is not available. Anyway, I will add it to these 2 after tonight. Confirmation on Kinky-napper's info, and info on Anaconda would STILL be appreciated. |
| Per |
| Saturday January 17 07:22:46 2004 Re: John Carpenter's Vampires (1998) |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Vampires is in the first half and JLo gets it near the > end of Anaconda Hey thanks! This looks good! (bad being the scenes were at the same time) I'll let you know tomorrow how the exercise went. |
| Per |
| Saturday January 17 09:29:24 2004 Gag, type of. |
| I'm getting a few chuckles about the lack of a ball gag on last week's ALIAS episode. I doubt that even the most fanatical ball gag afficando carries one around in his pocket, while duct tape is a common household product. Yes duct tape is a common gag nowadays, but back when handkerchiefs were carried around in every back pocket, pristine white hankies were a common gag. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Saturday January 17 10:30:32 2004 Re: Diet Ads |
| > > Are these the ones?
If we're talking about the ones airing in the UK currently then sorry no. it's neither of them. The Damsel in the SlimFast ads is even hotter. |
| Paul S |
| Saturday January 17 11:21:37 2004 Record#6907 |
| Is the daughter played by Kim Nelles or Rowan Aston Shaw? |
| Saturday January 17 11:26:13 2004 Re: Gag, type of. |
| Historian wrote:
> Yes duct tape is a common gag nowadays, but back when > handkerchiefs were carried around in every back pocket, > pristine white hankies were a common gag. Yeah and the victim hoped like hell it hadn't been used before being shoved in their mouth. |
| C |
| Saturday January 17 12:06:06 2004 Re: Big Fish |
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This post was deleted. Poster: The Big Cat Reason: Abusive. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday January 17 12:25:18 2004 Gag, type of |
| > I'm getting a few chuckles about the lack of a ball gag on last week's ALIAS episode. I doubt that even the most
fanatical ball gag afficando carries one around in his pocket, while duct tape is a common household product. ---- But a Ballgag is entirely within the realm of realism if the captor had planned for the need for a device specifically designed to keep a person quiet. Similarly, one probably doesn't carry handcuffs in their car trunk, but handcuffs are often seen in mainstream TV/movies. The evil Convenant has the resources to mobilize assassins throughout the globe, has engineered deviously muscular-immobilizing serums, and can even jet around the world without obtaining corporate VP preapproval. One could imagine it having a few Ballgags (in addition to the bitgag for electroshocks) in its inventory. It might even be the sort of company where it's easier to requisition a ballgag, than say, a yellow highliter. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Saturday January 17 13:28:58 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| One thing everybody seems to be overlooking: In the tape gag scene she was strapped to a table. In the preview with the ball gag she was standing outdoors. Could be a whole different episode. |
| Paul |
| Saturday January 17 13:31:34 2004 Re: Amy Acker |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> According to spoiler sites Fred should be bound and > gagged again in a future episode called "Why We > Fight", some sort of WWII thing going on. Hallelujah. In WWII they didn't have duct tape. |
| Paul |
| Saturday January 17 13:37:18 2004 Re: Gag, type of. |
| > I doubt that even the most
> fanatical ball gag afficando carries one around in his > pocket, while duct tape is a common household product. Is that a roll of duct tape in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me and seriously deformed? But seriously... duct tape is common right now because producers and probably prop people have discovered that it is the most comfortable for the actresses, and quickest and easiest to do on the set--no knots to tie, no messing up the hair or over/under the hair problems. And if they think about it at all, they probably figure it doesn't look any fakier than a loose cleave. |
| Paul |
| Saturday January 17 13:50:56 2004 Re: Amy Acker |
| Paul wrote:
> Hallelujah. In WWII they didn't have duct tape. But it is around in the present day and according to the spoiler that's when the gagging takes place. |
| G-MaN |
| http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=1828 |
| Saturday January 17 14:22:38 2004 Re: Diet Ads |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Are these the ones? > > > That first one fit the description. Nice overusage of > ropework. (Wish that was mentioned in the guy's > description of it - I had no idea what to expect) Thanks for sharing. Yes, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that the top ad with the redhead is the one I remember from the late 1970s. It isn't quite the way I recall it, but it is so similar that I'm pretty sure it is the one. (I recall salad dressing for some reason. Oh, well.) I couldn't remember exactly what the ropework was, so I couldn't give an exact description. But again, the picture is consistent with what I recall. Thanks! |
| PRW |
| Saturday January 17 15:03:34 2004 Re: Gag, type of. |
| C wrote:
> Historian wrote: > Yeah and the victim hoped like hell it hadn't been used > before being shoved in their mouth. There's actually a joke like that in the old "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" cartoon. In the episode "April foolish," just before April gets gagged with a cloth, she says, "I hope that's clean!" |
| PRW |
| Saturday January 17 15:22:08 2004 GH: perils of Sam |
| here's the spoiler for monday
suddenly is is very hi on my list of Soap babaes I REALLY want to see get the treatment January 19 - 23 Monday Sam helps Jax escape from the pirate's pit. An assailant grabs Sam. other on my wish list are (in no particular order) Teri Ivens (Simmone AMC) Jess Morris (Jen OLTL) Rebecca Budig (Greenlee AMC) alicia Minshew (Ken Doll AMC) Lindsey McKean (Marah GL) Molly Stanton(Charity P) Lindsey Korman(Theresa P) Farah ??? (Mimi DOOL) |
| Saturday January 17 15:23:16 2004 Memory (Re: Diet Ads) |
| PRW wrote:
> I couldn't remember exactly what the ropework was, > so I couldn't give an exact description. But again, the > picture is consistent with what I recall. Thanks! Okay, sorry for jumping at you. I can easily understand how someone could forget the ropework and yet remember the gagwork of a scene from decades back. We all remember different aspects of the same thing anyway - kind of like "scene creep" I suppose. For example, I had remembered a scene in a cartoon where the heroes were tied up AND locked in a dungeon, and possibly locked into cases (coffins?) as well. Years later I found that cartoon on TV again and watched every episode. Was there one with the heroes locked in a dungeon? Sort of. Was there one with them tied up? Yes. Locked in a case or coffin? No. All these elements combined? Definitely not! My mind may have simply recalled one or more of these things and somehow mixed them together, or maybe took the fact that the scene struck me in a certain way and distorted my memory of it. At least for you, you didn't falsely remember something. You remembered that someone was tied to a chair, and cleave-gagged, but apparently the "chair" and "cleave-gag" parts stuck out and the ropework was (understandably) forgotten. So I have a question for you. Do you think cleave-gags in mainstream advertising strike you in a certain way, possibly because they're unexpected? That might explain why that part of the memory took precedence. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Saturday January 17 16:05:38 2004 Re: Memory (Re: Diet Ads) |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> So I have a question for you. Do you think cleave-gags in > mainstream advertising strike you in a certain way, > possibly because they're unexpected? The best ad I've ever seen with a gag was a great poster protesting censorship in comedy, it had a big caption that said "A gag is no joke" and had a closeup of a cute girl cleavegagged with a thick red bandana. It's probably still on the web somewhere but I also have it saved on disk and could upload it. |
| Anubis |
| Saturday January 17 16:57:18 2004 comercial question |
| Years ago I saw a comercial that featured a girl in bondage.I think it was on bleeps bloopers and practical jokes. It was featured in a segment showing funny things actors were in before they became stars. This one featured the guy who plays Acea (sp?) on One Life To Live. It was filmed when he was fairly young and I believe it was from England. It was shot like an old detective show with the hero wearing the cliche trench coat and hat. What I remember was a girl bound and gagged on a bed in a dingy looking place. The guy brakes the door in and has a fight with the villian. He is standing back from the camera and gives the product slogan then right at the end the girls head pops up in a great profile close up and she mmpphhs a couple of times.
I don't know what made me think about this commercial but it's been driving me crazy trying to remember the details of it.Did any one else see this either on bloopers or the actual airing of the commercial and if so do you remember any more details or what they were advertising? |
| Mark C |
| http://community.webtv.net/didcaps/entrance |
| Saturday January 17 17:25:47 2004 U.S.News & World Report |
| Bondage pics show up in the strangest places.
The "On Health" page [66] of the Jan 19, 2004 issue of "U.S. News & World Report" discusses birth control. They use this picture of birth control pioneer Margaret Sanger. Exactly what the other woman is doing is unclear. She could be fixing Sanger's hair or tightening/loosening the gag :-) |
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| Jacot |
| Saturday January 17 17:44:11 2004 Duct Tape |
| When "Duct Tape" was originally developed during WWII it was nicknamed "Duck Tape".
After WWII it was used in the developing forced air heating and cooling industry and its name morphed into "Duct Tape". See the homepage link for more info. I personally don't remember Duct/Duck tape being that common in the local hardware stores during the 50s and and early 60s. Definitely wasn't sold in drug and grocery stores then. Maybe the original patent ran out in the 60s and companies like 3M decided to create a consumer market ¿¿¿¿¿ Nowdays 'Duct/Duck' tape is so ubiqutous that nobody would give a roll of duct tape in a car a second thought, but might wonder what all those pieces of rope and cloth strips are for :-) |
| Jacot |
| http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/duckvsduct.html |
| Saturday January 17 18:35:09 2004 Re: Duct Tape |
| > Nowdays 'Duct/Duck' tape is so ubiqutous that nobody
> would give a roll of duct tape in a car a second thought, > but might wonder what all those pieces of rope and cloth strips are for :-) Stick 'em in a paint-spattered drop cloth and nobody would give it even a second thought. Ballgag might be harder to explain though, but hardly impossible: "It's a joke gift for an office party, see, we've got this manager who's always talking ..." BTW, ballgags are ridiculously easy to buy nowadays. |
| Pat Powers |
| Saturday January 17 18:38:51 2004 Re: Duct Tape |
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> I personally don't remember Duct/Duck tape being that > common in the local hardware stores during the 50s and > and early 60s. Definitely wasn't sold in drug and grocery > stores then. > I remember it first appearing in the UK in the 1960s as carpet edging tape, in a range of colours (but not silver.) The stuff came with a thin waffled plastic backing strip, and was bought by the foot off a big loose roll in Woolworth's. They provided a rule with which to measure your expensive purchase. The black variety, gaffer tape, came next, for insulating and securing wires, and this was on an ordinary roll. As to the time of introduction, I'm not sure, but the entertainment industry probably imported it from the States quite early. It hit the general market in the late '60s or early '70s, I think, and silver tape wasn't really established here before the late '70s. We Brits tend to call any plastic-coated cloth tape "gaffer" unless it happens to be silver, in which case increasing numbers of people (but by no means all)call it duct or ducting tape. Unless you can get decent tape in bulk or at trade prices, it's still a bit expensive to mess about with. |
| Mad Dan |
| Saturday January 17 18:48:17 2004 Re: Amy Acker |
| G-MaN wrote:
Hallelujah. In WWII they didn't have duct tape. Yeah, duct tape is getting to be a little old hat - one woman in silver wrapping looks pretty much the same as the next after a while....BUT! - suspect good things to come in the future on TV for fans - I received numerous samples of some VERY! fascinating medical gear from interested parties (thanks guys! - QUITE! interesting....) and the MEDICAL tape field has advanced enormously! Never really liked the tape myself until I saw this stuff - white, stretch, sticks to itself any not the woman....er, correction, sorry....afflicted area of the woman's body... Technology rules. |
| Major John |
| Saturday January 17 19:43:02 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| >In the preview scene with the ball gag she was standing outdoors.
Not so. Unless you saw a different picture than I did, they are in the van. I have the photo saved. Perhaps this occured prior to her getting strapped down to the table? |
| BiG MT |
| Saturday January 17 20:02:09 2004 Bondage materials |
| > BTW, ballgags are ridiculously easy to buy nowadays.
---- In my case, I can drive to a nearby adult store and buy a Ballgag quicker than I can drive to Home Depot (or Lowe's), search for a parking space, walk from parking lot, walk thru the store and find the rope (or duct tape) I want, and stand in the checkout line. The same might also apply to evil captors and TV/movie props dept go-fers. Hmm, maybe this could be an idea for a comedy-type setup. A bumbling badguy belatedly realizes he needs to buy more rope to truly secure his captive, but it takes so long (display in split-screens: The bad guy's shopping trip vs. the damsel working to free herself) for him to get help from an orange-aproned kid and standing in line behind customers using credit cards for $8 purchases that the damsel is long gone... |
| Kinky-napper |
| Saturday January 17 20:08:42 2004 MASQ |
| In that masq video game from alteraction does anyone know how to see all three of the scenes with the girls? Walkthroughs on how to get to them? thnaks |
| guest |
| Saturday January 17 20:13:17 2004 Re: Bondage materials |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
In my case, I can drive to a nearby adult store and buy a Ballgag quicker than I can drive to Home Depot ... True confessions time...I've NEVER, in my LIFE! even been into an 'adult' type store - once when walking up Yonge St. in Toronto, I looked in the window and noticed both the clerks were female and couldn't bring myself to go in! - but, I've persevered ....I'm gonna BEAT! this if it takes all of my gumption (WHAT THE HELL IS GUMPTION, ANYWAY?) TRUE! STORY! - and I fully admit to remaining a complete wimp in this regard - go figure! |
| Major John |
| Saturday January 17 21:09:14 2004 Chasing LIberty? |
| Has anyone seen the new Mandy Moore as First Daughter movie? The new issue of *Entertainment Weakly* (Double issue 747/748, January 23/30; Halle Berry as Catwoman (M'rrRoww!) on the cover (& inside!)) has a pic on page 10 of Mandy (Liberty) with her arms raised & some putz seems to have a gun in her back. Maybe they're on their way to a shack in the woods where she'll be tied to a chair & gagged! (Post anonymously if you're embarassed to admit you paid to see the movie.) :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Saturday January 17 21:11:25 2004 Re: Memory (Re: Diet Ads) |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> Okay, sorry for jumping at you. I can easily understand > how someone could forget the ropework and yet remember > the gagwork of a scene from decades back. No offense taken. :) It's amazing that I remembered as much of the image as I did. I only saw it once (before today!). > So I have a question for you. Do you think cleave-gags in > mainstream advertising strike you in a certain way, > possibly because they're unexpected? That might explain why that part of the memory took precedence. I'm not sure if it was the cleave gag itself, but the gag, period. At the time there was a series of magazine ads that routinely showed women being tied up (remember the Virginia Slims "You've come a long way, baby" ads?) but not gagged. This is the first magazine ad with a gag that I can recall seeing. That's likley why the gag style stuck in memory. |
| PRW |
| Saturday January 17 21:23:52 2004 Re: comercial question |
| Mark C wrote:
> Years ago I saw a comercial that featured a girl in > bondage.I think it was on bleeps bloopers and practical > jokes. Mark, your description sounds like the Granny Goose potato chip ad (the "spy" version) which was indeed shown on a Bloopers show. You can see a picture of the girl with my article in the Fall 2002 edition of the e-zine. That brief close-up is the best shot of her in the ad. Earlier in the commercial, she appears in profile in a farther shot. |
| PRW |
| http://brianspage.com/ezine/issue-2.3/ezine.php?fi1e1=features/commercials.html |
| Saturday January 17 21:24:25 2004 *Catching* Liberty! |
| See! Here's the pic I'm talkin' about. |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://imdb.com/title/tt0360139/combined |
| Saturday January 17 21:36:41 2004 Re: *Catching* Liberty! |
| Van wrote:
> See! Here's the pic I'm talkin' about. > http://imdb.com/title/tt0360139/combined Van and Mandy are doing the exact same thing: reaching. No scene. |
| An aging chum |
| Saturday January 17 22:03:15 2004 Re: *Catching* Liberty! |
| Van wrote:
> See! Here's the pic I'm talkin' about. The one where she's doing an 'ok, I've had enough of this conversation now' pose? |
| Saturday January 17 22:18:20 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| Paul wrote:
> One thing everybody seems to be overlooking: In the tape > gag scene she was strapped to a table. In the preview > with the ball gag she was standing outdoors. Could be a > whole different episode. No. Ballgag: http://www.vartanhopics.com/pics/promos/s3/full3.jpg Tapegag: http://fuzzweb.org/aliasnew14.JPG |
| Saturday January 17 22:45:11 2004 Re: comercial question |
| >
> > Mark, your description sounds like the Granny Goose > potato chip ad (the "spy" version) which was > indeed shown on a Bloopers show. You can see a picture of > the girl with my article in the Fall 2002 edition of the > e-zine. It's tough to say because I saw it so long ago. I thought I remembered the girl facing the opposite direction and in complete profile in the final close up but it's probably just scene creep since you found this on a bloopers show as well. Thanks. |
| Mark C |
| Saturday January 17 22:49:01 2004 Re: *Catching* Liberty! |
| Van wrote:
> See! Here's the pic I'm talkin' about. > http://imdb.com/title/tt0360139/combined looks more like she is walking away from him while giving some sort of frustrated hand gesture. If you look at the rest of the pictures from that gallery the guy behind her plays the romantic intrest. |
| Mark C |
| Saturday January 17 22:58:13 2004 Re: *Catching* Liberty! |
| Mark C wrote:
> looks more like she is walking away from him while giving > some sort of frustrated hand gesture. That is what it looks like. |
| Malasfan |
| Saturday January 17 23:14:32 2004 Re: *Catching* Liberty! |
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> Mark C wrote: > > > looks more like she is walking away from him while > giving > > some sort of frustrated hand gesture. > Um yes....I confess I've seen the movie (The girl I went with wanted to see it...honest!) and I can confirm that's exactly what it is: her walking away in frustration. |
| bdecker |
| Saturday January 17 23:38:19 2004 Re: MASQ |
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Anyone know the game im talkin about? It was posted here a year or so ago |
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