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| Friday January 16 00:34:35 2004 Re: Magazine Advertisements: A collection of some interest? |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> > Check out the "Captured and Controlled" gallery > > Thanks for that excellent link. Some great bondage > imagery I've never seen before, and also a lot of laughs. I was surprised at how tame a lot of it was. There was some stuff I interpreted as mean-spirited and didn't care for, but there's some cute stuff as well. Image #4 I particularly thought was cute. I only wish these images were shown in context, so I could tell what they were supposed to represent or advertise (as well as better decide for myself how much I agree or disagree with the author of the piece). Thanks for the link, WK. I too think it's worth checking out. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Friday January 16 00:52:19 2004 Minor scene on Uga Uga, too |
| I slept in this morning and missed the first ten minutes, but I did happen to catch a quick glance of Jungle Huntress (That's just what I call her. I don't know what the character's name really is.) with her hands tied behind a pole. |
| G-MaN |
| Friday January 16 01:01:35 2004 Days scene w/Deidre Hall |
| I missed this one... Did anyone make screen grabs and/or movie clips? |
| rICH |
| rchallen@redperspective.com |
| Friday January 16 01:05:04 2004 Re: 1-800-Missing: "Delusional" |
| Brian R wrote:
> > This episode is not in the database. It's vital that > these > get done so that reruns will be picked up for alerts. and the Alias ep still isn't in the databse. I'd do it but I didn't see it. I did add last nights Angel ep though because I watch that regularly. |
| iD |
| Friday January 16 01:46:16 2004 Re: Threat Matrix "PPX" |
| Fan of Rosaleen Young wrote:
> Pretty Asian woman is tapegagged and has her hands taped > in front. She is shown as she is being rescued. Scene > occurs around minute 54-55 and lasts about a half a minute. For those who taped it, she also was shown tape-gagged in the opening 15 minutes, and again at the end. |
| Friday January 16 04:51:19 2004 Rosaleen Pics |
| I made some vidcaps of the scene(s), as they pics ended up being better than the clip. Yes, it was one of those. On the upside, it was an Asian cutie (my personal favorite), which I always welcome with open capturing devices.
Thank you very much for the alert. I don't watch this show and would never have known about this, if not for your post and Brian's fine site. As for Ms. Rosaleen... "Oh, me rikey vely much!" Get these while you can. I can not keep them on-line for very long. If I have to take them down, a friendly request to my email might garner (pun intended) a zip file of them for those that want. |
| Tim Smith |
| verywavy@yahoo.com |
| http://www.slumberville.com/threat/threat.html |
| Friday January 16 05:22:46 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| Royler wrote:
> I gotta say that, coming from a ballgag fan, Garner's > promo shot had to have been the biggest mainstream tease > in the history of the medium. Just another reason why I'm > more into adult-fare scenes. > > The only consolation is that it looked like the prop guy, > director, and Garner had no idea that to be effective, > the ball actually needs to be in your mouth. There's > nothing worse than a gag that practically sits on the > actress' lips. > > I'm happy for the duct tape fans, but this wuz robbery. In an earlier post, I speculated that the scene with the ballgag was a ploy by the producers of "Alias" to attract viewers. They filmed a scene with Jennifer Garner gagged with the ballgag with no intention of including it in the final episode. They intentionally permitted stills of the scene to disseminate over the Internet in order to invoke interest in the upcoming episode. I must say that it worked on me. |
| Hadji |
| Friday January 16 05:53:22 2004 Re: Magazine Advertisements: A collection of some interest? |
| MA wrote:
> WK, you are my new hero. You have no idea how many years > I have searched in vain for that "Pizza Without > Guilt" advertisement. I could swear it's the very > one I remember seeing years ago in one of my mother's > magazines--you know, those hardcore fetish titles like > "Redbook" or "Woman's Day". At last, the search is over. LOL! I remember seeing that very same Pizza Without Guilt" ad in my mom's magazine's, too. It seems to have created quite an impression, even though the damsel is not really my idea of a hottie. I'm glad some of you guys liked the site. I found it interesting. And yes, the author seems ... um ... unusually perceptive when it comes to unearthing the opressive subtext of those ads -- but Bad Things will happen if we discuss that here. PS: FUZZ -- THANKS for the Nikki Cox LAS VEGAS caps -- I've always wanted to see a scene like that. Here's looking forward to repeats. |
| WK |
| Friday January 16 06:00:03 2004 Rosaleen Young |
| > As for Ms. Rosaleen... "Oh, me rikey vely much!"
---- Rosaleen Young's mass-market paperback book "Fantasies of a Young Submissive" (published October 2003) has been receiving rave reader reviews at book sites such ChimeraBooks.co.uk, Amazon.co.uk, and Amazon.com. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday January 16 06:46:38 2004 Re: Kari Wuhrer |
| > > Can anyone confirm or deny whether or not she has
> any > > other bondage scenes? I recently rented "Hitcher 2"... she gets her hands cuffed in front in that one. But as far as I'm concerned, hands-in-front is token bondage... technically it counts as a DiD scene, but IMO it's pretty much worthless. :p She is a heckuva babe though. I'd love to see her in a full-treatment scene. |
| CollectorX |
| CollectorXInfo@aol.com |
| http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/ |
| Friday January 16 07:03:21 2004 Jennifer Garner |
| At least it's nice to know Jen's willing to be experimented on with various gags. Makes for one hell of a interesting day at the set don't you think?
"Hey guys! Don't forget Thursday is Jen's gag scene!" |
| Vince Grey |
| greymanspage@yahoo.com |
| Friday January 16 08:15:53 2004 "Charmed" renewed |
| "Charmed" has been renewed for next season, it's seventh. Haul out the rope! |
| Hermango |
| hermango@hotmail.com |
| Friday January 16 08:54:46 2004 Re: Rosaleen Pics |
| Tim Smith wrote:
> I made some vidcaps of the scene(s), Thanks for the caps. Crap, now instead of calling it a waste of a time slot, I have to hope it sticks around long enough to repeat. |
| G-MaN |
| Friday January 16 11:43:08 2004 rosemary's baby |
| I don't know if this counts. But watching Rosemary's Baby Mia Farrow towards the end just before she is about to give birth and in a paranoid state, thinking the coven will do harm to her baby locks her husband and her doctor out of her apartment. She calls someone but they are not there. The husband and group which includes the doctor, a couple of older women and others break in, she screams they tackle her onto the bed, she screams some more when one of the older women grabs a large hankerchief from a mans pocket grabs Mia-s chin holds her mouth open and inserts the rag. From what I could tell it stays in there for about 30 seconds. I didn't see it listed in your data base, therefore it might not qualify as a scene |
| http://www.xxxseduction.net/Jack/ |
| Friday January 16 12:48:44 2004 Re: Rosaleen Pics |
| Tim Smith wrote:
> I made some vidcaps of the scene(s), > As for Ms. Rosaleen... > "Oh, me rikey vely much!" Tim, you labeled your vidcaps of the Threat Matrix scene as "Rosaleen Young". The girl in your caps is not her. Ms. Young is indeed a beautiful young woman, but she is a British girl and caucasian and mostly known to folks in our circle as a bondage model. She is not the girl that was on Threat Matrix in bondage. If you follow Fan of Rosaleens link you will see the real Rosaleen. Its worth the trip, trust me. And I have met her briefly at the BondCons, and IMHO she is even prettier in person, and a real sweetie. |
| David Knight |
| http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com |
| Friday January 16 13:01:02 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| Hadji wrote:
> > In an earlier post, I speculated that the scene with the > ballgag was a ploy by the producers of "Alias" > to attract viewers. They filmed a scene with Jennifer > Garner gagged with the ballgag with no intention of > including it in the final episode. They intentionally > permitted stills of the scene to disseminate over the > Internet in order to invoke interest in the upcoming episode. I must say that it worked on me. No offense, but I don't think the conspiracy theories really hold water. The number of people who would look at a shot of Garner ballgagged on the Web, and then tune into Alias when they otherwise wouldn't, probably number in the dozens. Not even a blip on the ratings radar. I'm more inclined to believe it was a publicity still that was taken before they realized the gag looked odd, or perhaps Garner informed everyone that she wasn't going to spend an afternoon's shoot with her jaw aching from the gag. In fact, considering the crummy placement of the gag on her, she probably made her point that way. It looks passable in a still frame, but any footage of the gag hovering over her lips would look silly. It got discarded after the photo shoot. I vote that Garner vetoed the script. Next time, Prop Dude, buy a 1.25" ballgag! |
| Royler |
| Royler20@aol.com |
| Friday January 16 13:26:59 2004 Tourque |
| Has anyone seen this movie with Monet Mazur (damsel from comic book villans)? I saw a couple caps that suggest maybe a scene of some sort took place. |
| Friday January 16 13:30:47 2004 Re: Angel scene |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Does anyone have any caps of this scene or did it come as > too much of a suprise for anyone to catch it? Jeez - a guy goes out of town for a week or so (BONDCON Vegas Rocked!) and the mainstream bondage scened EXPLODES! I just posted clips & caps (in "New Grabs") from ANGEL, VEGAS & ALIAS - and my head is spinning! Nice start to the New Year for sure! |
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| Bindher |
| bindher@bindher.com |
| http://www.bindher.com |
| Friday January 16 14:48:26 2004 Re: B&G'd Commercials |
| Noticed Major John capped that B&G'd models commercials from the CITY channel fashion show, over on Binder's site. |
| Jay L |
| http://www.bindher.com |
| Friday January 16 16:12:38 2004 Re: Kari Wuhrer |
| > She is a heckuva babe though. I'd love to see her in a
> full-treatment scene. Actually Kari Wuhrer HAS had 2 full tratment scenes. She was bound and gagged in: "The Marshal" (mid 90s TV show) episode - "The Great Train Robbery" and also in the film "The Undertaker's Wedding." However, she needs MORE! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Friday January 16 16:55:51 2004 Re: Rosaleen Pics |
| David Knight wrote:
> Tim, you labeled your vidcaps of the Threat Matrix scene > as "Rosaleen Young". The girl in your caps is > not her. Thanks for pointing this out David. To be honest, I was just going on the post that alerted the scene. I made the mistake of assuming the person was referring to the woman in the scene. Now I'm not quite sure what the hell he was doing. You know what happens when you assume... I make an ass out of me and me. If anybody knows the real actress name, great. I'll fix them up. If not, just enjoy the pics. Sorry for the confusion. |
| Tim Smith |
| verywavy@yahoo.com |
| Friday January 16 17:17:11 2004 Re: Minor scene on Uga Uga, too |
| > I don't know what
> the character's name really is.) with her hands tied > behind a pole. Is this a new scene, and if so, was there a gag? |
| Pat Powers |
| Friday January 16 17:38:10 2004 Re: Magazine Advertisements |
| MA wrote:
> WK wrote: > > > Check out the "Captured and > Controlled" gallery > > first... Thanks for the link, WK. It's an interesting collection and it certainly makes its point. > WK, you are my new hero. You have no idea how many years > I have searched in vain for that "Pizza Without > Guilt" advertisement. I could swear it's the very > one I remember seeing years ago in one of my mother's > magazines--you know, those hardcore fetish titles like > "Redbook" or "Woman's Day". At last, the search is over. Cheers! I'm glad you found your "holy grail" MA, but unfortunately I'm still looking for one of mine. I'm a little surprised that I couldn't find it in the collection. It's a salad dressing ad (I think) from a magazine featuring a housewife with red hair bound to a chair and cleave-gagged, staring at the camera and seated in front of a table with a plate of salad (I think) in front of her. IIRC, she was wearing a blue and white dress. This was circa 1978-1980, and it also appeared in one of the women's magazines like "Family Circle" and "Women's Day." I've been searching for this one off and on for many years without luck. I've searched most of the pages from WK's linked site without luck. If any of you eagle-eyed readers happen to see a similar ad on the pages that I missed, please let me know. |
| PRW |
| Friday January 16 19:11:04 2004 Update |
| Quick note ....Major John's is updated for this week - enjoy as much as I did - gotta rush - Christine is trying to get loose - yikes! |
| Major John |
| silent_night_022003@yahoo.com |
| http://www.binder.com/silentnight |
| Friday January 16 19:17:22 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| It has been stated in the Yahoo group Gagged Actresses on TV that the ballgag version was a separate shoot for Brazilian TV, which likes things a little raunchier. The poster couldn't confirm this , but said it was his understanding that it was the case.
So, you BG fans, fly down to Rio! I'm still trying to puzzle out just what was under that tape. Could be a piece of thick card, or just possibly a bit of cloth or soft sponge protruding between her almost-closed lips and flattened by the tape. |
| Mad Dan |
| Friday January 16 19:29:31 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| Royler wrote:
> No offense, but I don't think the conspiracy theories > really hold water. > > I'm more inclined to believe it was a publicity still > that was taken before they realized the gag looked odd, > or perhaps Garner informed everyone that she wasn't going > to spend an afternoon's shoot with her jaw aching from > the gag. > > In fact, considering the crummy placement of the gag on > her, she probably made her point that way. > It got discarded > after the photo shoot. > > I vote that Garner vetoed the script. Next time, Prop Dude, buy a 1.25" ballgag! I go along with that, Royler. The ballgag looked too big and uncomfortable. Garner's jaw would've been aching almost as soon as it was fastened. The tape gag would've been way more comfortable on the lass and yes, it's a shame the props department didn't have a 1.25 " ballgag ! |
| C |
| Friday January 16 21:00:13 2004 Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| > > Next time Prop Dude, buy a 1.25" ballgag!
> > > The tape gag would've been way more comfortable on the lass and yes, it's a shame the props department didn't have a 1.25 " ballgag! ---- It'd be a pity if this conjecture was the reason. A primetime network TV series with a big-budget (I'm guessing "Alias" has the budget, for example, to blow up a second car if the Special Effects unit isn't successful with a stunt on a first take) didn't have the foresight to go out and purchase several gags of different sizes/designs for a scene that likely took numerous takes to complete. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday January 16 21:08:34 2004 Re: Magazine Advertisements |
| PRW wrote:
> It's a salad dressing ad (I think) from a > magazine featuring a housewife with red hair bound to a > chair and cleave-gagged, staring at the camera and seated > in front of a table with a plate of salad (I think) in > front of her. IIRC, she was wearing a blue and white > dress. Do you remember quite how she was tied to the chair? Hands behind, lots of rope around her, etc? |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Friday January 16 21:32:07 2004 Re: Minor scene on Uga Uga, too |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> Is this a new scene, and if so, was there a gag? No gag, but I did miss the first ten minutes of the show. Just her standing with her hands tied behind a pole in a tribal village. She had another scene to today with different captors, sitting in a chair with her hands tied behind. (No gag again. This show does produce alot of gag scenes. I've only caught two so far out of about a dozen scenes.) And this telenovela ran once a few years ago, but only one handgag entry made it to the DB. |
| G-MaN |
| Friday January 16 21:34:53 2004 Re: Minor scene on Uga Uga, too |
| G-MaN wrote:
> This show does produce alot of > gag scenes. I was thinking DOESN'T, but my fingers screwed it up. They apologize. |
| G-MaN |
| Friday January 16 21:39:58 2004 Re: Magazine Advertisements: A collection of some interest? |
| WK wrote:
> MA wrote: > > > WK, you are my new hero. You have no idea how many > years > > I have searched in vain for that "Pizza Without > > > Guilt" advertisement. I could swear it's the > very > > one I remember seeing years ago in one of my > mother's > > magazines--you know, those hardcore fetish titles > like > > "Redbook" or "Woman's Day". At > last, the search is over. > > LOL! I remember seeing that very same Pizza Without > Guilt" ad in my mom's magazine's, too. It seems to > have created quite an impression, even though the damsel > is not really my idea of a hottie. > > I'm glad some of you guys liked the site. I found it > interesting. And yes, the author seems ... um ... > unusually perceptive when it comes to unearthing the > opressive subtext of those ads -- but Bad Things will > happen if we discuss that here. In 1988, the New York Times Magazine ran an ad for some weight-loss product or diet that featured a gorgeous model bound and gagged while recumbent on a sofa. Her hands were tied in front of her, and she was gagged with white tape. The caption read, "Don't Go To Extremes to Stick To Your Diet!", or something to that effect. Does anyone recall this ad? I first read about it in the old "Bound for Hollywood" column that Harmony Concepts used to run in their magazines. |
| Hadji |
| Friday January 16 21:51:59 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> > > Next time Prop Dude, buy a 1.25" ballgag! > > > > > The tape gag would've been way more comfortable on > the lass and yes, it's a shame the props department > didn't have a 1.25 " ballgag! > ---- > It'd be a pity if this conjecture was the reason. A > primetime network TV series with a big-budget (I'm > guessing "Alias" has the budget, for example, > to blow up a second car if the Special Effects unit isn't > successful with a stunt on a first take) didn't have the > foresight to go out and purchase several gags of > different sizes/designs for a scene that likely took numerous takes to complete. This is a very logical conjecture. Why didn't the producers of the show adequately contemplate the ramifications of using a ballgag on Jennifer Garner? They should've considered the size of her mouth, and if they underestimated its size, then they could've easily sent some flunky to a nearby adult bookstore to purchase a proper size ballgag. How expensive could a ballgag be in comparison to the budget of one of ABC's most successful television shows? I still believe there may have been an ulterior motive, namely attracting viewers with the false promise of seeing Ms. Garner in a ballgag. This would attract lots of mainstream viewers, as the use of ballgags is considered a sexually deviant practice, and these practices hold a special allure for everyone. This is an example of the old "bait-and-switch" sales ploy. Or perhaps they experimented with using a ballgag on Ms. Garner, and her jaw ached so uncomfortably after only brief use, that they abandoned the idea altogether. |
| Hadji |
| Friday January 16 21:55:39 2004 Re: B&G'd Commercials |
| Jay L wrote:
> Noticed Major John capped that B&G'd models > commercials from the CITY channel fashion show, over on > Binder's site. I figure you supplied the goods Jay to begin with so just want to say ....we worship you MASTER! THE best in a long time I've seen. Hats off to the major too! |
| Friday January 16 22:07:17 2004 Magazine advertisements |
| > Does anyone recall this ad? I first read about it in the old "Bound for Hollywood" column that Harmony Concepts used to run in their magazines.
---- If the magazine ad appeared in Harmony Concepts' "Bondage Life" magazine, it would've ran in their "Tielines" column, rather than "Bound for Hollywood". "Bound for Hollywood" was solely about mainstream TV & movies (plus movie posters and publicity stills). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday January 16 22:09:27 2004 Pizza Without Guilt |
| The advertisement originally appeared in
Readers Digest |
| TSR |
| Friday January 16 22:39:49 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| Hadji wrote:
> This is a very logical conjecture. Why didn't the > producers of the show adequately contemplate the > ramifications of using a ballgag on Jennifer Garner? Simply because they have many more important things to worry about. They are not producing a bondage video. It would be nice if they could sweat details like the exact diameter of a ball gag that will be used for a few seconds in one shot. I predict this will happen, when producers find themselves with unlimited time and unlimited money to put shows on the air. |
| An old friend |
| Friday January 16 23:12:13 2004 Re: Garner's ballgag tease |
| Royler wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > > > > In an earlier post, I speculated that the scene with the > > ballgag was a ploy by the producers of "Alias" > > to attract viewers. > > No offense, but I don't think the conspiracy theories > really hold water. Fer cryin' out loud! If you saw the scene in question, it was a van interior setup with a few lines of dialogue for the guest villain & reaction shots for Jennifer. This was intercut with exterior views of the van & the funeral on the beach. What probably happened: they sent some production assistant out to purchase a ball-gag. They shot Jennifer's scene & decided the ball gag looked ridiculous. ("You bought the wrong size, moron!!!") ...so they decided to shoot it again with a tape-gag. They were already on a location shoot (& all the Operation Overlord scale logistics that entails), the interior scene was already blocked & rigged, there was no other beach scene(s) to shoot, they had nothing to look forward to but packing up & getting back on the freeway... WHY NOT try a different gag? They probably tried a cleave-gag, medical tape, an ace bandage... anything they had in the Crafts Trailer. Duct-tape made the cut & the rest is on the editing room floor... & that's it. Seriously, movie sets are always hurry-up-&-wait, and we're talking about a *SIMPLE* setup. They shot the scene with a ball-gag, then shot it again with duct tape. Van's Second Law of Mainstream DiD's: The realities of movie & TV production explain almost everything. :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Friday January 16 23:12:14 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
Next time Prop Dude, buy a 1.25" ballga The tape gag would've been way more comfortable on the lass and yes, it's a shame the props department didn't have a 1.25 " ballgag! You and I would naturally assume the actress would prefer the tape - I'm currently banging MY head against the wall over this - but NOT so! - I've had several request something MORE dramatic which is why I was asking on AG about such things - GO FIGURE!! - female psychology remains a mystery to all..... |
| Major John |
| Friday January 16 23:55:38 2004 Re: Jennifer Garner's ballgag tease |
| > Simply because they have many more important things to
> worry about. They are not producing a bondage video. It > would be nice if they could sweat details like the exact > diameter of a ball gag that will be used for a few > seconds in one shot. This seems plausible, but if so, why did they shoot and release a publicity still of the ballgag that "would be used for a few seconds in one shot." Why not just release a publicity still of the tape gag? Something weird is going on here, not sure what it is. I'm also no sure of the "it's for Brazilian TV, where they like things spicier." It's hard to figure how a ballgag is "spicier" than a tape gag. It implies that the producers know a lot about the sexual appeal of the different type of gags. Somehow doesn't seem consistent with messing up the size of the ballgag so badly. In short, I don't have a clue what happened there. |
| Pat Powers |
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