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Wednesday January 07 00:25:21 2004
Re: Nancy Drew/Red Skelton
(unsigned poster) wrote:


> Also, I searched the DB, but I couldn't tell whether to
> search for a title or in the description.

What did you try?

You know the database doesn't give you a shock for
entering the wrong thing. Your request is so specialized
that it's unlikely anyone has an answer, and since you
didn't help us by telling us what you've found out so far,
there's little chance we'll be able to do anything.

Brian R
Wednesday January 07 00:37:00 2004
Alias
Good News! I can confirm that Jennifer Garner is tapegagged in the Alias preview for this Sunday. Bad News (in my humble opinion) is that it is a big wide piece of boring silver duct tape. Bring on the ballgag soon! By the way, a little late but Happy New Year to all!
Bill
Wednesday January 07 00:42:40 2004
Re: Nancy Drew/Red Skelton

You know the database doesn't give you a shock for
entering the wrong thing. Your request is so specialized

I sympathize with the poster: I entered Britney Spears ball gagged, hogtied and NO results - what's up ?!
Must be a technical glitch or something.
Major John
Wednesday January 07 00:49:04 2004
question
Remember when everyone was buzzing about special features on DVDs and how there could be bondage? ie. Scooby Doo? Well I just saw freaky firday and that's the biggest let down ever. Linsay Lohan is so hot, and they have the rope, the tape, the stretch scene, and then show her holding a handkerchief and a strip, but no gag scene...just terrible...does anyone know if there is action in a deleted scene or other special feature?
Nad
Nad_namlig@hotmail.com
Wednesday January 07 00:51:52 2004
Line of Fire
Anyone catch the 1/6 ep. "The Best Laid Plans" and if so, any scene turn up ? According to tvguide.com:

***
Line of Fire
The Best Laid Plans
60 mins.

The abduction of a 9/11 victim's daughter resurrects old demons for Paige, but more for the girl's mom once the kidnapper is caught. ...
***
Wednesday January 07 01:13:01 2004
Re: Line of Fire
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Anyone catch the 1/6 ep. "The Best Laid Plans"
> and if so, any scene turn up

Nothing, unless Leslie Bibb's bad acting counts.
Wednesday January 07 01:15:32 2004
Re: Alias
Bill wrote:

> Good News! I can confirm that Jennifer Garner is
> tapegagged in the Alias preview for this Sunday. Bad News
> (in my humble opinion) is that it is a big wide piece of
> boring silver duct tape.

I was disappointed with the ball gag, so I'll go the other way and say I'd rather she was tape-gagged. The amazing thing is 2 scenes in one episode. Can't wait to see this one.
Wednesday January 07 05:01:06 2004
Nancy Drew books
> Which books have Nancy Drew bound and gagged in them? And can I read the scenes somewhere online?
----
Have you tried Amazon.com's recently-added keyword search within books' texts capability? You could search on "Nancy Drew" + "bound", "tied" "gagged", etc.
Kinky-napper
Wednesday January 07 05:03:06 2004
Re: Soaps strike out

> Passions: Sheridan was straightjacketed outside her home
> and moved the physch ward. Good restraints, no gag
> despite contant screaming. She's now in the soundpress
> room sreaming her head off. Typical Passions. Next.
>

This episode was absolute GOLD for us straitjacket fans.
There were at least 4 separate scenes of Sheridan either
being put into or struggling in the jacket. I''ll continue
to tape the show, as there's no telling how long this
storyline will continue.
Greg
gb9304@yahoo.com
http://greggerbits.tripod.com
Wednesday January 07 05:38:41 2004
Xena
Does anyone have the clip of the scene Locked up and Tied Down? I really would like to see it.
Graham
Wednesday January 07 06:41:08 2004
Kinky Kidman?
This may have been mentioned before but I just saw Birthday Girl with Nicole Kidman who seemed to enjoy her multiple bondage scenes. Boring gag wise IMHO. But on the special features track there was a music video in which she gagged herself 2 or 3 times with a riding crop. This must have been her idea and she seemed to bite down with gusto. Don't you think?
Beaveher Cleaveher
Wednesday January 07 07:29:10 2004
Chimera Publishing
According to the home page of Chimera Publishing (which specializes in erotic fiction of submissive females with spanking, bondage, etc. themes) Chimera will shortly be selling a range of mainstream fiction books.

One plus that I can see versus other booksellers (such as Amazon.co.uk) is that the Chimera reader ratings and comments likely more closely reflect the criteria Brian's Pagers use for evaluation.
Kinky-napper
http://www.chimerabooks.co.uk
Wednesday January 07 08:41:44 2004
Re: Database [Re: Nancy Drew/Red Skelton]
You know, the way I use the database is to always search for the minimum and work my way up.

For example, let's say I was curious if anything ever happened to Britney Spears. There's a chance her first name may be misspelled ("Brittany"? "Brittney"?), so I search only for "Spears" in the "actress" field, and nothing else. I might later put her name in the "description" field - instead of, not in addition to, the "actress" field - if that didn't work. But the thing is, the database is very sensitive and you have to know how to use it.

Try searching only for the name "Skelton" in the "description" field, or names of individual group members, and see if that yields anything.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Wednesday January 07 09:55:06 2004
Re: Kinky Kidman?
She had also had in interview in 'Premier' magazine about Batman Forever where she said her favorite part was being bound with the golden handcuffs.

Wednesday January 07 10:09:04 2004
Smallville
When is the episode with Kristin Kreuk tied up supposed to air?
C Kent
Wednesday January 07 11:17:23 2004
Red Skelton Scenes
Red Skelton's TV show was on for twenty years, probably 700 - 800 episodes.

A typical episode would have two, maybe three sketches.

He frequently had fellow Hollywood/TV stars as guests.

It was not uncommon for a female guest to get the treatment [usually pretty quick and lame and played for the comedy of it, but still the treatment].

One scene in particular still stands outs.

As part of one skit, a blonde, very well known and recognizable at the time, Hollywood star is brought on stage with her hands tied behind her back and an OTM gag.

Red looks her over and says 'That's the best gag we've had all week'.

She and the audience all laugh.

I think that the reason that this particular scene still sticks with me all these decades later, is the looks that passed between my parents when Red said that.

As to actually identfying and referncing any specific scene on any particular show, considering most of his shows were pre-video tape and therefore probably lost, and that there were probably close to two thousand skits, well you get the idea :-)

The only reason 'Lucy' is still around is that Desi owned them not CBS.
Jacot
Wednesday January 07 11:32:42 2004
Amazon.Com
One thing about the 'Word Search' function, you have to be registered with Amazon to use it.

To register you need a name, e-mail addy [no sweat there, easy to get a free e-mail addy and make up a name] AND a valid credit card !!!!

So much for anonymous searching :-(
Jacot
Wednesday January 07 12:13:59 2004
Re: Amazon.Com
Jacot wrote:

> One thing about the 'Word Search' function, you have to
> be registered with Amazon to use it.

They do this to enforce the page limit. They go by account, rather than IP address. See, you can only look at a certain percentage of pages from any one book before you hit the limit for that book. Plus, there is another, more general limit. If you look at too many pages in any one day or set of days, you can't look at any more from ANY book, no matter what, for a while.

They have to sell the books after all. But I've used the feature and come across some cool stuff. Like this one book which featured a maid bound, gagged and blindfolded so tightly, that her hands were clenched afterward when she'd been set free. Ouch.

Another thing to know is that you can still re-read any pages you'd already looked at, even if you'd hit your limit. The limit is only for original pages, not ones you'd already checked.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Wednesday January 07 15:10:08 2004
Re: Kinky Kidman?
> This may have been mentioned before but I just saw
> Birthday Girl with Nicole Kidman who seemed to enjoy her
> multiple bondage scenes. Boring gag wise IMHO.

In the script she was supposed to gag herself with a necktie also but didn't do it.

Wednesday January 07 15:37:35 2004
Note To Per
Per, I remember you saying that you could now access the BBC on your new system?

If that's the case, then I've just posted a message over at Rob's that may interest you (re Blue Peter).
Martin
Wednesday January 07 16:03:38 2004
Re: OLTL
G-MaN wrote:

> I mean what are the chances there will be another plot
> for these two to be B&G TOGETHER.

Actually pretty good. Today's "One life to Live" ended with Natalie and Jessica discovering Troy hiding out at Lindsey's apartment. Troy is suspected of being a serial killer, but he is claiming he was framed.

Troy has pulled a gun on the sisters and I don't think he is interested in taking a hostage (but I'm not a writer on the show.) There are three common soap solutions here:

1. He convinces the girls he is innocent and they help him.
2. He locks them in a closet while he makes his escape.
3. He ties them up while he makes his escape.

I'll be tuning in tomorrow and hoping for #3.
G-MaN
Wednesday January 07 17:20:21 2004
Re: Alias
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Bill wrote:
>
> > Good News! I can confirm that Jennifer Garner is
> > tapegagged in the Alias preview for this Sunday. Bad
> News
> > (in my humble opinion) is that it is a big wide
> piece of
> > boring silver duct tape.
>
> I was disappointed with the ball gag, so I'll go the
> other way and say I'd rather she was tape-gagged. The
> amazing thing is 2 scenes in one episode. Can't wait to see this one.



I personally love the idea of her getting tape-gagged, does anyone have a picture of this yet. This has me really excited, and if no one has a picture, could you at least describe how she looked. Was she in some kind of disguise or just normally dressed.
DAN DRUFF
Wednesday January 07 17:22:03 2004
Re: OLTL
G-MaN wrote:

> G-MaN wrote:
>
> > I mean what are the chances there will be another
> plot for these two to be B&G TOGETHER.
>
> Actually pretty good. Today's "One life to
> Live" ended with Natalie and Jessica discovering
> Troy hiding out at Lindsey's apartment.

The preveiws for tomorow's episode shows Nat & Jess sitting together & Jess is saying "Please let us go" but you can't see if they are tied or not.

You never know with soaps, but I'd say the odds are pretty good they will get tied up, gagged too actually..

Lets all just hope they don't mess THIS ONE up!
Snowcat
Wednesday January 07 17:36:32 2004
Re: Alias
DAN DRUFF wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
>
> I personally love the idea of her getting tape-gagged,
> does anyone have a picture of this yet. This has me
> really excited, and if no one has a picture, could you at
> least describe how she looked. Was she in some kind of
> disguise or just normally dressed.

I only saw it quickly, so I can't tell for sure. There are 2 promos ABC is airing for this. The first, just Alias, will show the tape-gag shot, which I'm still trying to get. They didn't show any Alias clips during the soaps today. The 2nd promo is a combo Alias/Practice promo that shows nothing of the gag scene. My guess is both will air tonight from 8 to 11, so just record ABC for 3 hours and we should get the shot.
Wednesday January 07 17:48:28 2004
Re: Amazon.Com--Redux
My point was that it is not annonymous.

If they've got a credit card number they know exactly who you are and what you are looking for.

I personally don't want some drone at Amazon knowing what I'm searching for.

As irrational as it is, many of us early baby boomers still have the fear of being 'outed'.

Just did a quick Google, "Nancy Drew" first, then "gagged" within those results.

Over 350 returns, it is being talked about in all kinds of places.

A quick Yahoo Groups search for "Nancy Drew" came up with 60. Might be some interesting stuff in those groups :-)
Jacot
Wednesday January 07 17:53:44 2004
One Life to Live
If there is any action at all, it will have to be tomorrow, probably early in the episode as a "One Life" spoiler site states that Troy gets arrested on Thursday's episode.
anon22
http://soap_spoilers.tripod.com/oltl.htm
Wednesday January 07 18:31:50 2004
Re: Nancy Drew/Red Skelton
> What skits from
> Red Skelton and people like that have there been
> bondage?

I remember only one Red Skelton scene. The guest star was Mary Beth Hughes, a popular starlet of the time, tied and OTM gagged in the trunk of a car. Red opens the trunk and sees her and quips "Boy, do you look silly."

The show was one of those rerun recently on PBS, might come around again.

Vicky Lawrence was gagged in a sketch on the Carol Burnett Show, unfortunately not one of the ones that made it into the syndicated reruns.

One or two on Laugh-in, and one on the Dean Martin Show that I recall. Both shows did the same joke. Police arrive, woman is b&g on the floor, man sitting in a chair reading. Cop asks "How long ago did they leave?" Guy says, "Oh, maybe two hours or so."

Paul
Wednesday January 07 18:57:53 2004
Re: Smallville
C Kent wrote:

> When is the episode with Kristin Kreuk tied up supposed
> to air?

The episode "Hereafter" airs February 4th. Let's hope the spoilers are correct.
CM
Wednesday January 07 20:18:14 2004
Re: Stephanie Plum - More Info
Ukman wrote:

> I read a few weeks ago about Miss Plum and Her books -
> and the fact that She and Her sister are duct taped in 1
> of them.

That would be "Hard Eight".
In "One for the Money", Steph is taking a shower when Morelli busts in and handcuffs one wrist to the shower rod.(She calls Ranger to come free her, and in a later book she remarks she wouldn't mind being chained and naked for him.)
Book six has Joyce, the husband stealer, is grabbed by some housewives and tied naked to a tree.
In yet another one, (Book Seven, I think,) Ranger wants to take her to a safehouse, she refuses, so he starts to cuff her. She takes off running with the cuffs hanging off one wrist, and as they run circles around the car she mentions it is kind of "erotic".
And I still haven't got my hands on books four, nine, and the christmas one.
G-MaN
Wednesday January 07 20:19:03 2004
Re: Update
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic. It is of long-standing tradition for fellow webmasters to post update notices. IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO MODERATE THIS PAGE.
The Moderator
Wednesday January 07 20:22:51 2004
Re: OLTL
Snowcat wrote:

> Lets all just hope they don't mess THIS ONE up!

I'm just hope they don't tease us again. I don't need Troy pulling out some rope and scarves just as the police bust in.
G-MaN
Wednesday January 07 20:52:40 2004
Re: Amazon.Com--Redux
Jacot wrote:

> If they've got a credit card number they know exactly who
> you are and what you are looking for.
>
Well, I guess I've now done so many searches for "bound and gagged", "bound wrists", "untied her", etc, that they must know. Doesn't really bother me; I'm sure there are people who have searched for far more R-rated stuff on there.

> I personally don't want some drone at Amazon knowing what
> I'm searching for.
>
"Drone" meaning their recommendation system, or a human employee? Amazon.com does kind of annoy me with their "since you bought this, you might want this!" and "since you looked at this, you might like this!" stuff, especially since a lot of it is really just the most popular whatever in its genre.

The thing is, though, we're only being "watched" by automatic customer match programs and such, and not necessarily by employees.

> As irrational as it is, many of us early baby boomers
> still have the fear of being 'outed'.

I guess I haven't gotten that far yet. I remember after having gotten out of high school, taking pics of my female friends and having them developed, and getting the photo CD as well. With the fact that the photo CD was aligned correctly (meaning any vertical-oriented pictures were displayed vertically, etc), it showed that obviously some human had viewed my personal photos. Oh well, so the photolab people have seen my female friends/acquaintances and now know "what I like". Doesn't bother me - I'm sure they've seen stranger stuff from other people.

Maybe you do have a good point, but I'm not yet at that phase.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Wednesday January 07 22:10:19 2004
Re: Smallville
C Kent wrote:

> When is the episode with Kristin Kreuk tied up supposed
> to air?

February 11th, unless you get pre-empted by NCAA hoops like we in ACC country always are on Wed nights, in which case you'll get to see lovely Kristin tied up on the following Saturday.
Wednesday January 07 22:19:08 2004
Scene in new movie "Haute Tension"
I'll be at the first few days of Sundance once again this year, and I'll do my best to check this one out.
Raffish
http://festival.sundance.org/filmguide/popup.aspx?film=F11117
Wednesday January 07 23:33:00 2004
Re: Amazon.Com--Redux
Jazz411 replied

"Maybe you do have a good point, but I'm not yet at that phase."

Hopefully you never will good buddy !!!!

The world has changed a lot since the 50s and 60s when bondage related materials were kept behind the counter at adult bookstores because they did'nt want to openly display it.

By the 70's those same adult bookstores had large displays of bondage materials.

Haven't been in one since the late 90's, but they were openly buying and reselling classic bondage, as well as current. stuff then.


Jacot
Wednesday January 07 23:42:28 2004
Re: Nancy Drew/Red Skelton
Paul wrote:

> One or two on Laugh-in, and one on the Dean Martin Show
> that I recall.

I remember one from Laugh In, think it was Allen Suse[sp] and Ruth Buzzi.

Allen sitting in his chair reading a newspaper, Ruth tied to what looked like a dining room/kitchen chair and cloth cleave gagged.

IIRC, Ruth hopped her chair over to the police when they arrived.

As to Red Skelton, we are talking thousands of skits over twenty years.

I know that it was not than unusual, but the only one I remember with any real detail, is the one I previously mentioned.


Jacot
Wednesday January 07 23:53:37 2004
Re: Nancy Drew/Red Skelton
Jacot wrote:

> Allen sitting in his chair reading a newspaper, Ruth tied
> to what looked like a dining room/kitchen chair and cloth
> cleave gagged.
>
How was she tied? I just wish more people would describe the ropework as well as the gagwork, etc, in an effort to get all the details out that anyone might be interested in.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net

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