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Friday February 13 00:29:43 2004
Re: Angel
The Greyman wrote:

> The words "boyish figure" come to mind, and a
> big yuck on that. Seeing Cordy last week only reminds me
> how badly "Fred" fails to measure up.

I happin to like boyish women, you dipstick >:P

Marco
Friday February 13 00:40:18 2004
The Perfect Tenant
The Perfect Tenant (Stacy Hogue bound and gagged) is on right now (at least on the west coast) on the Lifetime Movie Network. The scene has not happened yet. It ends at 10:15 pm pacific time.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday February 13 06:41:12 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
Jazz411 wrote:

> Awesome caps. I love the idea - I'm normally not big on
> "hands over head" ties, but the way they were

I really like hands-over-head... especically - and I know this will sound strange - if their armpits are exposed. Don't know why, but that's just how it is. :)

Anyway... looks like I don't get FUSE. Anyone planning to post a video of the whole scene?
CollectorX
CollectorXInfo@aol.com
http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/
Friday February 13 08:38:38 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
CollectorX wrote:
> I really like hands-over-head... especically - and I know
> this will sound strange - if their armpits are exposed.
> Don't know why, but that's just how it is. :)


AOH is the only way I like them tied up. Call me an AOH snob. :-)
Friendly Fire
Friday February 13 08:50:20 2004
mystery gag
One more time on "Fred's" full treatment. I noticed that she and the 2 putzes were gagged with torn bed sheets. Where in the heck would the villian find bed sheets in a law firm. This isnt Ally McBeal.LOL
kevin
Friday February 13 09:17:10 2004
Re: The Perfect Tenant
Tapemaster wrote:

> The Perfect Tenant (Stacy Hogue bound and gagged)

That was a great scene. It would have been a classic if she was barefoot. But Stacy is a cutie.
Tom Davis
Friday February 13 09:50:38 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
> Good call, JP...this definitely looks to have
> possibilities! Kristen needs a good "tie and
> gag" scene in the worst way!

The preview shows Lana being threatened with a knife followed by the villainess and Clark getting it on. This has to be a B&G scenario for Ms Lang but I'll have my usual low expectations.

Friday February 13 10:23:04 2004
Regis & Kelly
Well, today's the final day of the week & Live w/ Regis 7 Kelly just started & she's certainly not keeping silent, so I guess that kinda kills the hope of her being gagged for the episode in her attempt to not say anything the whole episode. Shucks.
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Friday February 13 10:40:13 2004
Angel
Now that I've seen the scene, I can throw in my 2 cents. AS for her not moving much, that is a negative. However, most importantly, she has great eyes. She shows a great sense of what it means to be tied and gagged just in her eyes alone. That is a huge plus. Her nose work left something to be desired, and she did stand too still. All in all it was a 5 to a 6 out of 10.
doug
Friday February 13 11:07:28 2004
Re: mystery gag
kevin wrote:

> Where in the heck would the villian find bed
> sheets in a law firm.

Maybe while in Freds' lab he found the gurney that Harmony was strapped to in "Destiny" and used those sheets. Or before the tie ups maybe he made his way up to Angels' penthouse apartment and nabbed some sheets out of a linen closet or straight off the bed. A better question would be how the bad guy got into the building without setting off the vampire detectors that used to give Angel so much trouble.
iD
Friday February 13 11:40:28 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
Friendly Fire wrote:

> AOH is the only way I like them tied up. Call me an AOH
> snob. :-)

You are an AOH snob. Weird one too :-)

Per
Friday February 13 11:58:24 2004
Re: Regis & Kelly
JP wrote:

> Well, today's the final day of the week & Live w/
> Regis 7 Kelly just started & she's certainly not
> keeping silent, so I guess that kinda kills the hope of
> her being gagged for the episode in her attempt to not
> say anything the whole episode. Shucks.

I fast-forwarded through it all week so I'm not certain if it was even discussed during in any episode. They did have some big-name guests on each day this week, so maybe they're saving that silence for a slow episode.
Friday February 13 12:02:57 2004
Re: Regis & Kelly
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I fast-forwarded through it all week so I'm not certain
> if it was even discussed during in any episode. They did
> have some big-name guests on each day this week, so maybe
> they're saving that silence for a slow episode.

Looks like we've been wasting our time here. The alert said Regis won a Super Bowl bet with Kelly, but the story at the following link says it was the NFC title game from mid-January and it was 7 minutes of silence.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/charlotte/sports/football/nfl/carolina_panthers/7740932.htm
Friday February 13 12:25:06 2004
John Cage's 4'33"
> Looks like we've been wasting our time here. The alert said Regis won a Super Bowl bet with Kelly, but the story at the following link says it was the NFC title game from mid-January and it was 7 minutes of silence.
----
Only 7 minutes worth of silence is the penalty for a lost bet?! That's scarcely longer than John Cage's seminal work: 4'33" [of silence].

Which gives me an idea for making a 4'33" music video...
Kinky-napper
Friday February 13 12:25:19 2004
Regis and Kelly
Regis and Kelly discussed the silence bet earlier in the week and gave the impression that it would still happen in the future during the beginning of their show. I am hopeful but would'nt bet the house.
Gordian Kmot
Friday February 13 12:40:35 2004
Wire in the Blood
UK cop show scored last night - blonde hostage hogtied and tape gagged, then left tied and blindfolded. Dolls got the treatment, too!
See Database for details.
Mad Dan
Friday February 13 12:40:44 2004
What interview questions would you ask?
I got to thinking, if one of us were to have the opportunity to interview a lady that has had a mainstream DID scene. What would be a standard set of questions (besides those specific to the scene itself) that we'd ask?

Examples:
When you were reviewing the script, what thoughts did you have?
Did you submit any suggestions to improve the scene? were they implemented?



Kerhop
kerhop@oz.net
Friday February 13 12:52:27 2004
Re: What interview questions would you ask?
Kerhop wrote:

> Examples:
> When you were reviewing the script, what thoughts did you
> have?
> Did you submit any suggestions to improve the scene? were
> they implemented?

One that I'm really interested in is how the actress feels playing out the scene - does she try to relate to the character and her predicament? Or does she just "go through the motions"?

One of the things I like about mainstream live action DiD is the idea that the actress herself has to be tied up (as opposed to a cartoon, where at most she has to mmmph, or shout for help). So I sometimes wonder what went through the actress's mind when the ropes were pulled tight around her wrists...if they were, that is. So questions regarding that and the emotional impact of the scene and its context would be the ones I'd find most interesting, and maybe even non-DiD people as well.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Friday February 13 13:05:04 2004
Re: What interview questions would you ask?
Jazz411 wrote:

> Kerhop wrote:
>
>
> One that I'm really interested in is how the actress
> feels playing out the scene - does she try to relate to
> the character and her predicament? Or does she just
> "go through the motions"?
>
My question would be who decides what type of gag to use and has an actress ever said something like "Anything but tape" etc.
Friday February 13 15:14:18 2004
Re: The Perfect Tenant
> The Perfect Tenant (Stacy Hogue bound and gagged)
> That was a great scene. It would have been a classic if
> she was barefoot. But Stacy is a cutie.


You know, this made me remember that Fred was barefoot on Angel. Since when is she barefoot in an office enviornment, with a lab no less? Of course, actresses that have trouble balancing on chairs for a long shoot (and who forget their sensible shoes) might want to be barefoot.
Friday February 13 16:03:34 2004
Re: Wire in the Blood
> UK cop show scored last night - blonde hostage hogtied
> and tape gagged, then left tied and blindfolded. Dolls
> got the treatment, too!

Just like the dolls that were gagged in the Buffy 'School Hard' episode. Wish the producers had done more with that in subsequent episodes.

Friday February 13 17:20:49 2004
9 Chickweed Lane
Edda's alter ego, Superlative Girl, is in peril again!
David
http://www.chickweed.com/comics/chickweed/archive/chickweed-20040211.html
Friday February 13 17:39:18 2004
Update
Major John's 'Friday the 13th' update should be uploaded at BindHer.com by about 7PM / EST
I'm going out for the evening - any problems, just email me - PS: currently cheating on Mai - AND with good reason - check out the latina sports babe next time!
PS: Mai says 'MMMMMMMMM...MmmmmmPH....!!!"
ENJOY !
Major John
silent_nght_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight
Friday February 13 17:48:23 2004
Catherine Oxenberg
Does anyone have any input on a movie starring Catherine
Oxenberg who gets the treatment with her daughter
back to back in chairs and both are barefoot.
TPY
Friday February 13 18:06:30 2004
Re: Catherine Oxenberg
I saw the scene and it is fantastic. The bare feet ( gee I wonder if this just happened by chance ? LOL) the very cute mother and daughter and nice tape gags to. For sure a 1 st rate scene.

beecap
Friday February 13 18:27:40 2004
Re: Catherine Oxenberg
TPY wrote:

> Does anyone have any input on a movie starring Catherine
> Oxenberg who gets the treatment with her daughter
> back to back in chairs and both are barefoot.

Does this movie even exist?? I believe it's called "Vector File", or "Files", but I've never seen it anywhere. I was beginning to think this was just an urban legend in the ranks of "Real Deal" w/ Angie Everhart :-)
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Friday February 13 18:31:28 2004
Re: Wire in the Blood
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > UK cop show scored last night - blonde hostage
> hogtied
> > and tape gagged, then left tied and blindfolded.

Any idea of the episode name or if this episode will air again? Seems that last time we got a report of a scene in this series from the previous night, the episode aired again just a few nights later on BBC-1.
According to Yahoo TV, this weeks' episodes of Wire in the Blood are "Behind the Scenes", "Still She Cries", and "Darkness of Light".
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Friday February 13 18:38:16 2004
Friday the 13th Update
Yikes!! It's a scary night with Friday the 13th and all that, but nonetheless, Major John's is updated with a special mini update - enjoy!!
Golly!!
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www,bindher.com/silentnight
Friday February 13 18:45:22 2004
Vector Files
The movie "Vector Files" does indeed exist. A quick look at imdb.com and the internet proves that. In fact you can even find a trailer at this website:

http://www.filmknights.com/vector.htm

In the very small trailer (in terms of screen size), there is an image of the 2 bound on chairs back to back. That is all I have.
WMD
Friday February 13 18:48:36 2004
one more thing..
a search of the net has revealed that Oxenburg was 5 months pregnant when making the film. Ick.
WMD
Friday February 13 19:12:25 2004
Re: Wire in the Blood
It's "Still She Cries", as I put in the DB entry.
It's on ITV 1 here in the UK - don't know about anywhere else, as terrestrial is all I have.
Mad Dan
Friday February 13 19:41:11 2004
Re: John Cage's 4'33"
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Only 7 minutes worth of silence is the penalty for a lost
> bet?! That's scarcely longer than John Cage's seminal
> work: 4'33" [of silence].
>
> Which gives me an idea for making a 4'33" music video...

I met John Cage once before he died. Very unusual guy. Did you know there have actually been five different recordings of 4'33". I love the thought of a 4'33" music video. I wonder what he would have thought of that.
Friday February 13 20:21:05 2004
John Cage's 4'33"
> > That's scarcely longer than composer John Cage's seminal work: 4'33" [of silence].

Which gives me an idea for making a 4'33" music video...
> > >
> Did you know there have actually been five different recordings of 4'33". I love the thought of a 4'33" music video. I wonder what he would have thought of that.
----
OK, here's my thought. One of the fastest-selling and memorable songs of all time was "We Are the World". Why? It certainly wasn't the song itself. It was the lasting image of all those top singers together at the same time.

For the 4'33" video, I'd invite some of our favorite rock/pop/country wishlist damsel singers. And in some respects, a Gagged 4'33" rendition would be simpler to manage than "We Are the World".

Quincy Jones (or I) would greet each arriving superstar "Check your egos at the door", and then fasten on their gag. We wouldn't need to run through several practice sessions, nor would we have to endure those petty catfights over who gets to sing what line (and/or whether her rival got to sing a longer part) or singers trying to overpower each other rather than harmonizing. I've a feeling a Pay-per-view telecast "for charity" (moi) + a DVD/video with behind-the-scenes extras would bring in the $.

I dare say it'd at least stick in one's mind as much as Coca-Cola's "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" (Hilltop singers) 45-seconds TV commercial.

Kinky-napper
Friday February 13 20:37:01 2004
Re: John Cage's 4'33"
Kinky-napper wrote:

I dare say it'd at least stick in one's mind as much as Coca-Cola's "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" (Hilltop singers) 45-seconds TV commercial.

Mai is over tonight (DON'T ASK ANY FURTHER! ) - I'm thinking of teaching her to sing the Coca Cola song - anyone know the words?



Major John
Friday February 13 20:37:18 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
Friendly Fire wrote:

> CollectorX wrote:
> > I really like hands-over-head... especically - and I
> know
> > this will sound strange - if their armpits are
> exposed.
> > Don't know why, but that's just how it is. :)
>
>
> AOH is the only way I like them tied up. Call me an AOH
> snob. :-)

Yep. Patricia Crowley's Man From U.N.C.L.E. scene from the first episode is one of the first I recall as affecting me.
Malasfan
Friday February 13 20:45:58 2004
Re: Vector Files
This post was deleted.

Poster: Xanatol
Reason: I had to can this post because of the name of site your refered to. Violates the age thing.
The Moderator
Friday February 13 20:48:27 2004
ID help requested
Please check out Database Corrections, there is a Spainish movie Kerhop is working on.



Brian R
Friday February 13 20:50:33 2004
Re: John Cage's 4'33"
Major John wrote:

> Mai is over tonight (DON'T ASK ANY FURTHER! ) - I'm
> thinking of teaching her to sing the Coca Cola song -
> anyone know the words?

Get yourself a bulletproof vest MJ - I KNOW the routine - the husbands (even EX husbands) can be LETHAL - watch your butt buddy !




Friday February 13 21:03:53 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
>
> AOH is the only way I like them tied up. Call me an AOH
> snob. :-)

Oh my God, there's more of us besides me, MAV and Malasfan?

TBirdSC
Friday February 13 21:06:32 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
TBirdSC wrote:
> >
> > AOH is the only way I like them tied up. Call me an
> AOH
> > snob. :-)
>
> Oh my God, there's more of us besides me, MAV and
> Malasfan?

Okay, I know there's more of you out there. Let's hear from you.
Malasfan
Friday February 13 21:45:33 2004
Re: John Cage's 4'33"

> For the 4'33" video, I'd invite some of our favorite
> rock/pop/country wishlist damsel singers. <snip>
> We wouldn't need to run through several
> practice sessions,

Oh yes we would. :)

Let Quincy supervise the recording equipment or something. I'll be a greeter with you. It would be too big a job for one person to tie on all those gags.
Friday February 13 22:07:32 2004
AOH Preview (Maybe)
You guys my be in luck. While watching Telemundo tonight I saw comercial for an upcoming telenovela "Prisionera". A quick shot shows a woman with her arm stretched upwards, but her hands aren't visible in the shot. She might just be holding on to some bar, but it looks like a some chain is dangling at the edge of the screen, so that gives me hope. (I'll try and catch it and post a cap to tease yall.)

And I have no idea when this series starts it's run.
G-MaN
Friday February 13 22:30:15 2004
Prisoionera
Click the link for the pick. If nothing else there is also a nice shot of her in clinging, wet clothing.
G-MaN
http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/Prisionera.html
Friday February 13 22:45:19 2004
Re: Prisoionera
G-MaN wrote:

> Click the link for the pick. If nothing else there is
> also a nice shot of her in clinging, wet clothing.

That definitely looks promising.
Malasfan
Friday February 13 22:45:20 2004
Re: Vector Files
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was deleted.
> Poster: Xanatol
> Reason: I had to can this post because of the name of
> site your refered to. Violates the age thing.

I hope this link is okay. (I hope I'm not posting the same thing.)

Scroll down the page and you will find vidcaps of the scene.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
http://www.boundsingers.net.ms/
Friday February 13 22:50:07 2004
Re: Vector Files
> Scroll down the page and you will find vidcaps of the
> scene.
>
> http://www.boundsingers.net.ms/

Once you enter the site and click on the appropriate page of course.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday February 13 23:14:13 2004
I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing
> Mai is over tonight - I'm thinking of teaching her to sing the Coca Cola song - anyone know the words?
----
I think a gagged karaoke rendition of "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" would be analagous to lip-synching to the original Kingsmen's version of "Louie, Louie". The words are virtually unitelligible, so one could gag-sing almost anything they want.





Kinky-napper
Friday February 13 23:26:48 2004
Re: John Cage's 4'33"
4'33" for Prepared Damsels

More preparation than just gags would be required! As Cage's prepared piano stuff meant that various objects/materials were attached to the strings to alter their tone/timbre/etc and they were played by plucking, stroking etc, more than minimal restraint for the prepared damsels would provide the best listening (and watching) experience. [insert maniacal laugh]

I must say I'm surprised that there are at least 3 of us here who know who John Cage was.
Rich McGill

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