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Wednesday March 17 01:32:41 2004
Happy Anniversary
Please add my thanks to your list of grateful visitors, Brian.

I have been visiting since early 2002 and the messages are always interesting but what has amazed me is the Database.

Although I am based in the UK, we also get most American Series and Movies and there are some that I would not have guessed included any bondage. Once I know, I look out for reruns on the TV or try to seek out an ex-rental of the movie.

I am particularly grateful to the person who posted details of the handgag for Phoebe Cates in Lace 2. She was one of many favourite actresses that I thought had avoided any scenes and although I would rather she had received the full treatment, I did manage to get a copy of this miniseries and it was a good scene.

Best Wishes to both you and your many contributors.
Gaz
Wednesday March 17 09:42:11 2004
Mini Update
Just a mini mid-week update to keep the boys amused.
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com/silent night
Wednesday March 17 11:14:37 2004
Aha! moments
We are all presumably here because we see something more in a lady tied up on screen than merely a plot device to keep the heroine quiet and out of the way while villains get on with the job, or to add a bit of tension.

Which scene, if any, finally convinced you that someone, be it a director, camera operator, writer, character or even actress, must share your thoughts, and perhaps you weren't alone in the world in being turned on by DiD scenes?

For me the great eureka was Yvonne Craig's stupendous scene in "The Man From UNCLE". Everything - the frantic mmmphing, the loving facial close-ups, the way her cute Celtic features puffed and strained against the well sealed tape gag just like her chest against her blouse - was so far beyond typical DiD fare and the lightweight demands of the show, that somebody, possibly several somebodies, was evidently having fun!

At the same time, "The Avengers" was chucking out scenes like there was no tomorrow, each season trying to top the last for kinkiness, but the clincher was Linda Thorson's gratuitous cross-legged tie with tight OTM gag in "Look, Stop Me, etc", filmed with low-angle close-ups. Seeing that, I thought, "Wow,these people really get a kick out of tying girls up, and understand how to convey it!"

And, of course, both scenes were perfectly acceptable for family viewing, without a hint of indecency.

Any other great revelatory moments, folks?
Phimophilus
Wednesday March 17 11:39:37 2004
Re: Aha! moments
> Any other great revelatory moments, folks?

Judith Arthy in 'The Baron'
Wednesday March 17 12:58:44 2004
re: "Aha! moments"

Elizabeth Ashley in the "Mission:Impossible" episode "The Question"...The details were too good for them not to have been paying some serious attention. And those wonderful closeups of her bound wrists as she used her fingernails to tap out the SOS message on the telephone. They threw away the mold after that episode was in the can!!
Overlooker
Wednesday March 17 13:32:31 2004
Re: Aha! moments
> > Any other great revelatory moments, folks?

For me it was (a) the Ginger movies and (b) Pat Priest's great squirming-on-the-bed scene in the Incredible Two-Headed Transplant.

Mike D
Wednesday March 17 13:48:48 2004
John Cage's 4'33"
>...an offhand comment on how composer John Cage's 4'33" could be properly staged with multiple backup "singers" receives four posts.
----
In February 2004, according to a New York Times report, cuts from "White Album" by the band Sonic Youth were being listed for downloading on Apple's iTunes online store, and included was "Silence" a 63-second cut consisting of no sound at all, for which fans were nonetheless expected to pay the iTunes price.

Well, if "I Touch Myself" could be made into a memorable rock video, then methinks 4'33" or "Silence" (with *muted* singers) could too...
Kinky-napper
Wednesday March 17 15:13:28 2004
Re: Aha! moments
Phimophilus wrote:
> Any other great revelatory moments, folks?<<

For me, it was when watching "The Boogey Man" for the first time. The bondage scene with Suzanna Love was shot with such loving care that I wondered for the first time if either the director or actress was a bondage lover. I was convinced of this when I saw Ms. Love again in The Devonsville Terror, where she was once again tied up (along with several other women). Love also co-wrote the Devonsville script.

I've also wondered about director John Carpenter. He had two great bondage scenes in "Big Trouble In Little China", then he had the bondage scene with Sheryl Lee in "John Carpenter's Vampires". In his director's commentary on the "Vampires" DVD, he even talks about the bondage scene, complimenting on Sheryl Lee's "nice butt" and the fact that she felt very vulnerable during shooting.

I have vid caps of "Boogey Man" up on my site right now. They'll be taken down on April 1, to save space, so get them while you can.



Doug R
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/knotbusters/index.html
Wednesday March 17 15:44:53 2004
Crossing Jordan on Friday
NEW CORONER FACES DEADLY DANGER FIRST DAY ON THE JOB--With no autopsies assigned to her on her first day as a pathology resident in the Massachusetts State Coroner's Office, Devan Maguire (Jennifer Finnigan) takes Lily's (Kathryn Hahn) task of notifying the wife (guest star Cyd Strittmatter) of a murder victim that her husband has been found shot and with traces of radioactivity on his body. But once she arrives at the couple's home, she is taken captive by armed men and must determine the connection between the dead man, a Geiger counter found in his home, and her kidnapping.
_________________________________________

'Armed men' to kidnap one woman. Doesn't sound promising but you never know.
http://www.northernstars.ca/actorsdef/Media/finnigan_jennifer.jpg
Wednesday March 17 15:57:36 2004
Re: Crossing Jordan on Friday
Jennifer F or Kristin Kreuk. Which lovely Cdn actress will be the first to get the gag?
A Thicke
http://i22.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/80/43/b7_1_b.JPG
Wednesday March 17 16:07:36 2004
Crossing Jordan ("Is that Plutonium in on Your Pocket, or Are You Just Happy to See Me?")
> 'Armed men' to kidnap one woman. Doesn't sound promising but you never know.
----
Why not? A number of memorable DiD TV scenes have been "Armed men kidnap one woman": Hunter ("The Legion, Part 2"), Vegas ("Kill Dan Tanna"), Starsky & Hutch ("The Psychic"), T.J. Hooker ("The Obsession")....
Kinky-napper
Wednesday March 17 16:10:35 2004
Re: Crossing Jordan on Friday
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>But once she arrives at the
> couple's home, she is taken captive by armed men and must
> determine the connection between the dead man, a Geiger
> counter found in his home, and her kidnapping.

I'd agree it doesn't sound promising. Unless she's going to solve the case while bound and gagged. Only on "Crossing Jordan" does the plotline involve a kidnapping victim solving her own kidnapping. Then again, most kidnap victims are allowed to roam free and discuss the case with their abductors.
Wednesday March 17 16:12:05 2004
Re: Crossing Jordan on Friday
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> NEW CORONER FACES DEADLY DANGER FIRST DAY ON THE
> JOB--With no autopsies assigned to her on her first day
> as a pathology resident in the Massachusetts State
> Coroner's Office, Devan Maguire (Jennifer Finnigan) takes
> Lily's (Kathryn Hahn) task of notifying the wife (guest
> star Cyd Strittmatter) of a murder victim that her
> husband has been found shot and with traces of
> radioactivity on his body. But once she arrives at the
> couple's home, she is taken captive by armed men and must
> determine the connection between the dead man, a Geiger
> counter found in his home, and her kidnapping.
> _________________________________________
>
> 'Armed men' to kidnap one woman. Doesn't sound promising but you never know.

For all we know, the "armed men" will be FBI or Homeland Security goons looking for dirty bomb terrorists. It won't be the first time that trick has been used: "Armed Men" get the drop on the hero/heroine---cut to commercial (Oh, the suspense of it all!!!)---then we learn the "armed men" are cops.

On the other hand... maybe it *will be* bad guys that grab her. Ya never know! :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Wednesday March 17 16:12:55 2004
GH handgag
Faith was handgagged with a black glove twice in the final minutes on Wednesday, but no bondage appears likely. The guy doing it had her perched on the ledge and was threatening to toss her over.

Second storyline involves a goon chasing Samantha. He said in the final minutes outside where she's staying that he's going to finish the job. Maybe he'll settle for kidnapping Samantha instead.
Wednesday March 17 16:32:22 2004
Re: Crossing Jordan on Friday
> On the other hand... maybe it *will be* bad guys that
> grab her. Ya never know! :-)

Of course. The FBI would never kidnap anybody.

J Edgar
Wednesday March 17 16:34:24 2004
Re: GH handgag
Can someone do caps?
Cynthia Preston Fan
Wednesday March 17 16:49:57 2004
Re: Aha! moments
> Any other great revelatory moments, folks?

Peggy Lipton's BB&G scene in the episode "The Hot, Hot Car" on The Mod Squad.
MD
Wednesday March 17 17:00:22 2004
Re: Aha! moments
Phimophilus wrote:

> Which scene, if any, finally convinced you that someone,
> be it a director, camera operator, writer, character or
> even actress, must share your thoughts, and perhaps you
> weren't alone in the world in being turned on by DiD
> scenes?

The "Dangerous Curves" scene. The cameraman deserved an Emmy for "Outstanding Technical Support" for shooting a TV bondage scene. Great panning from the groundlevel as the scene started, showing both damsels struggling in long black boots and then the gag-talk started and the camera went everywhere, but the major closeups were strictly on Michael Michele, which is what I wanted to see. Add in the deleted footage shown in Europe where Michele works off the tape-gag, spits out packing and is restuffed and regagged onscreen.
Wednesday March 17 17:10:36 2004
thank you
Brian you are appreciated for all you do;happy anniversary.
bubba
Wednesday March 17 17:12:34 2004
Re: Aha! moments


> Phimophilus wrote:
>
> > Which scene, if any, finally convinced you that
> someone,
> > be it a director,


That's an easy one... starting with the book, then the movie - John Fowles' The Collector.
no trekkie
Wednesday March 17 17:54:07 2004
Re: Aha! moments
>
> The "Dangerous Curves" scene.

Aaah, yes. Way too late for my formative years, and I've only ever seen it as a blurry QuickTime clip, but even like that it's very good. Nice one. A close-up or two of Ms Cutter wouldn't have come amiss, either. :-)

I missed a good scene in "The Baron"? AAAAGH! What kind of gag was Judy wearing? Have to be good to beat Sue Lloyd's ambulance scene.
Phimophilus
Wednesday March 17 18:58:20 2004
Sad passing
One of the Yahoo groups I belong to is reporting the death of Paablo, a regular contributor here, especially in the early days.
I have an e-mail out to a mutual friend of Paablo's and mine and I really, really, hope this is bad information for which I will soon apologize.
Paablo was (is) a great guy, a gentle soul, one of us and a true gentleman. If he's gone he'll be missed.
Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
http://www.freewebs.com/franksattic
Wednesday March 17 19:12:06 2004
Re: Aha! moments
Doug R wrote:

> For me, it was when watching "The Boogey Man"
> for the first time.

Good call...and it looks like it's out on DVD, which I hadn't noticed before. Even better, dvdpricesearch lists it for as low as $9.90, and you even get the bondage-friendly Devonsville Terror on the same disc! Nifty. (P.S. It's actually "The Boogeyman," for anyone attempting to do a search.)
Raffish
Wednesday March 17 19:14:37 2004
Re: Sad passing
Frank J wrote:

> One of the Yahoo groups I belong to is reporting the
> death of Paablo, a regular contributor here, especially
> in the early days.
> Paablo was (is) a great guy, a gentle soul, one of us
> and a true gentleman. If he's gone he'll be missed.

Let's hope this is not true. I fondly remember Paablo's funny posts in the early days. Didn't he also write a lot of the text on bindher's website?
Brian L
Wednesday March 17 19:15:42 2004
Possible new show
From tvguide.com:

Here's further proof that Boston Public has been expelled: The drama's hottest teach, Jeri Ryan, is in final talks to star opposite Kim Delaney in the pilot for Sudbury, a CBS drama that revolves around two sisters who also happen to be witches.

You know the mantra: Gotta gag them witches!!!!
Brian L
Wednesday March 17 19:19:01 2004
Aha! moments
> Which scene, if any, finally convinced you that someone, be it a director, camera operator, writer, character or
even actress, must share your thoughts, and perhaps you weren't alone in the world in being turned on by DiD scenes?
----
The Rookies ("Time Is the Fire"). As evil captor William Windom re-gags sweet Lynne Marta he chortles and gloats, "... yes, that's right -- Chicks should be seen, and not heard."
Kinky-napper
Wednesday March 17 19:20:07 2004
This week's update
Another slightly early update this week, as I'm headed out of town for the NCAA tournament. Presenting more movie madness with Katherine Heigl and Whitney Dylan in Descendant, Cecilia Bergqvist and Arlette Adriani in Junior, Louise Portal in The Klutz, Victoria Horne in The Scarlet Claw, and Renee Rea and Melissa Barmes in Watchful Eye.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/0319.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Wednesday March 17 19:38:54 2004
A few items
1) Regarding "Dangerous Curves": sorry, the scene with Lise Cutter bound & cleave-gagged on the floor not only has that tape-gag scene beat, it's a classic. With close-ups, I should add.

2) If Melissa Barmes ain't Samantha Hollister (a frequent model for FM Concepts) she's her twin sister.

3) The Playboy Cyber Club has outtakes of Rachel Hunter's session- 2 shots show her OTM gagged, one has her hands tied in front. No, this isn't BS.
DAK
d_kinnier@hotmail.com
Wednesday March 17 19:47:41 2004
Re: A few items
DAK wrote:

> 2) If Melissa Barmes ain't Samantha Hollister (a frequent
> model for FM Concepts) she's her twin sister.
>
> 3) The Playboy Cyber Club has outtakes of Rachel Hunter's
> session- 2 shots show her OTM gagged, one has her hands
> tied in front. No, this isn't BS.

Neither of these are particularly on-topic, so let's have
no followups, or I'll send the whole mess to AG.

The Moderator
Wednesday March 17 19:57:56 2004
Re: A few items
The Moderator wrote:

> Neither of these are particularly on-topic, so let's
> have
> no followups, or I'll send the whole mess to AG.

Sorry 'bout that; guess I should've known better.
DAK
Wednesday March 17 20:04:04 2004
Re: Sad passing
Frank J wrote:
One of the Yahoo groups I belong to is reporting
the death of Paablo, a regular contributor here,
especially in the early days.
Paablo was (is) a great guy, a gentle soul, one
of us and a true gentleman. If he's gone he'll be missed.
____________________________
Brian L wrote:
Let's hope this is not true. I fondly remember Paablo's
funny posts in the early days. Didn't he also write a
lot of the text on bindher's website?
____________________________

Which bindher ?
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://BlackHillsBondage.com
Wednesday March 17 21:20:29 2004
Re: Sad passing
Rich wrote:

> Which bindher ?

bindher.com

I thought I remember hearing that Paablo was doing some work for him.
Brian L
Wednesday March 17 21:48:49 2004
"Macgyver" to SpikeTV!! It's news to me...

Maybe I'm just slow to notice, but I just saw in my cable listings that episodes of "MacGyver" have started running on Spike on weekdays at 11:00 a.m & 12;00 noon. This is particularly good news to moi 'cuz I have been gnashing my teeth these many months with all the juicy listings in VCR Alerts for episodes running on TV Land. And my crappy cable system doesn't offer TV Land, though now that the mother lode has come in they'll probably decide to drop Spike, too.
Overlooker
Wednesday March 17 22:28:19 2004
MTV semi-AOH scene
FYI, on this week's Real World/Road Rules challenge, the physical challenge required contestants to hold their arms above their heads with one of their wrists inside a rope loop. I saw at least 3 cuties in AOH poses wearing sleeveless shirts and shorts. Only drawback is that there's dudes in the thing as well and that some of the chicks are wearing goggles.

PS-Congrats to the Mod
MAV

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