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| Sunday March 21 00:49:55 2004 Re: Dunst No Damsel In Spidey 2 |
| Mad Dan wrote:
> To most people, a damsel in distress is simply a young > lady unable to cope with an adverse situation. > There is no reason at all why a strong, resourceful woman > shouldn't be tied up in a movie but be unfazed and get > out of it by herself, or actively help a rescuer. Well said Mad Dan! I've noticed the "real world" use of the phrase "damsel in distress" differs quite a bit from how we're used to it. Someone who's kidnapped and manages to keep her cool and escape is to us a "damsel in distress" and to someone else she's a "resourceful heroine". |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday March 21 04:00:44 2004 Re: Dunst No Damsel In Spidey 2 |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> Mad Dan wrote: > > > To most people, a damsel in distress is simply a > young > > lady unable to cope with an adverse situation. > > > There is no reason at all why a strong, resourceful > woman > > shouldn't be tied up in a movie but be unfazed and > get > > out of it by herself, or actively help a rescuer. > > Well said Mad Dan! I've noticed the "real > world" use of the phrase "damsel in > distress" differs quite a bit from how we're used to > it. Someone who's kidnapped and manages to keep her cool > and escape is to us a "damsel in distress" and > to someone else she's a "resourceful heroine". Hey who cares what shes called as long as she's young, fit and tied up at some point (and kristen dunst does have a very naughty look in her eye at times). Whatever the name, a sexy babe in bondage is still 'IT'. |
| X Man |
| henry_fool@lycos.com |
| Sunday March 21 06:04:27 2004 Re: Dunst No Damsel In Spidey 2 |
| > Hey who cares what shes called as long as she's young,
> fit and tied up at some point I don't think it is even necessary for her to be young and fit, just as long as she is attractive (older women and overweight women CAN be attractive) and bound and gagged. |
| Tapemaster |
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| Monday March 22 21:17:53 2004 Re: Les Dangereux |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Wonder if the film crew drew straws to see who would do > the gagging I proffer my most heartfelt gratitude to whoever posted this message along with the picture. I recall an earlier post regarding this show a while ago that included pictures from the filming. These pictures showed the actress who was about to be bound and gagged laughing and chatting pleasantly with the film crew. In fact, she was smiling at a crew member just before he gagged her. I really enjoyed looking at these pictures, and they've been on my mind regularly. The name of the show escaped my recollection, however. Thanks again for your post, which answered my question. |
| Hadji |
| Sunday March 21 06:17:37 2004 Re: America's Most Wanted - Scene Possibility |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > One of the profiles on tonite's episode: > > > > "Wilfred Cotaya is wanted by the New Orleans > Police > > Department for the aggravated rape and kidnapping of > a > > 20-year-old woman. ... > > > So was there any scene tonight and did anyone cap it. I > just missed the show cause I forgot what time it was on > >_< There was no scene, merely a verbal description of what transpired that fateful night. The items used to restrain the victim, rope and duct tape, were mentioned, so the viewer would be able to infer how exactly the victim was secured. |
| Hadji |
| Sunday March 21 06:56:57
2004 Damsel in Distress vs. Resourceful Heroine |
| > I've noticed the "real world" use of the phrase
"damsel in distress" differs quite a bit from how we're used to it.
Someone who's kidnapped and manages to keep her cool and escape is to us a
"damsel in distress" and to someone else she's a "resourceful
heroine".
---- I recall when Yasmine Bleeth was interviewed by "Entertainment Tonight" prior to the release of her TV-movie "The Lake" (1998), she termed herself as playing a heroine -- as ET rolled a film clip of her b&g'd in a boat (letting *us* know that this cheesy movie would be worth watching). Since Bleeth's character not only frees herself (with a hidden pocket knife) and saves the other two (male) captives on the boat, it was natural that she'd be considered a "resourceful heroine" rather than a "DiD". |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday March 21 07:11:42 2004 Re: Dunst No Damsel In Spidey 2 |
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> Hey who cares what shes called as long as she's young, > fit and tied up at some point (and kristen dunst does > have a very naughty look in her eye at times). Of course, even if Ms D was using the term in the sense we recognise, it doesn't preclude someone else getting the treatment! Statistically, the longer a series goes on, the more classic plots it will use up, until a female tie-up becomes inevitable. Hey, we can hope.... |
| Mad Dan |
| Sunday March 21 13:21:14 2004 Re: Lost World WB 2:00pm central 3-20-Sat |
| Hadji wrote:
> > > scene in which Jennifer O'Dell seems to be > pulling a > > > white cloth off her face. Could it be a gag? > I just consulted the Scene Database, and found the entry > describing this episode, in which Jennifer O'Dell is > menaced by a gigantic carnivorous plant. There is no > mention of her being bound and gagged, but it also states > that the description is based solely on screen captures. I made that entry, on the episode "The Visitor". The description was based on HtF caps that are still up. (so go see for yourself) We see J O'Dell captured by thick grey tentacles from some plant. They grap her body from her neck down. There are no white cloths or gags, so I am not sure why you think it is that episode? The other ep mentioned in this thread is "Woodoo Queen" where Jennifer and Rachel stand tied between 2 posts, side by side, each having her wrist tied to one wrist of the other in the middle. |
| Per |
| Sunday March 21 13:37:12
2004 Search feature |
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| The Engineer |
| Sunday March 21 13:49:01 2004 Re: Damsel in Distress vs. Resourceful Heroine |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> it was natural that she'd be > considered a "resourceful heroine" rather than a "DiD". The funny thing about our phrase "DiD" is that it has caught on in its own way. Ever come across Japanese "DiD" sites that actually use the phrase "DiD" inserted into a bunch of Japanese text? Apparently some of them searched the internet and came across English-language DiD sites and discovered the phrase, and simply took it. Of course, they use it to mean an all-purpose bondage site, rather than the "DiD" we have in mind: the mainstream TV/movie damsel. Anyway, I actually prefer the "resourceful heroine" to the classic "damsel". I just feel it makes the scene and the overall story more exciting, if 1) There's a good reason to capture the heroine (maybe she has too much knowledge of what the villain is up to?) 2) It adds another obstacle for the heroine to overcome (what could be greater to overcome than being helpless?) 3) The heroine has to struggle to overcome said obstacle I do of course like the classic "someone has to rescue a kidnapped woman" story, if they can dramatize the kidnapping and the victim to some extent. But my first love is the captured heroine, rather than the captured victim. |
| Jazz411 |
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| Sunday March 21 15:18:16
2004 ANDROMEDA possibility |
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I've posted an possible alert for this ep, airing in the SF Bay area at 10 tonight on KRON4: "Exalted Reason, Resplendent Daughter" Dylan hunts down an infamous criminal who has kidnapped a Commonwealth leader's daughter. Has anyone already seen this, and if so, was there anything of interest? Thanks advanced. |
| Sunday March 21 16:33:09 2004 The Whole Ten Yards |
| I'm pretty sure I saw a preview of the movie, and I heard something about a kidnapping, and I saw three people (one a female) that appeared to be tied up. Anyone else see it? |
| Spanky |
| Sunday March 21 16:39:40
2004 Damsel in Distress vs. Resourceful Heroine |
| > Anyway, I actually prefer the "resourceful heroine" to
the classic "damsel".
---- And should there be a term (other than "unresourceful heroine") to cover those situations where the actress has to pretend that escaping her restraints *actually* presents some difficulty, such as Connie Sellecca's ropes falling-off scene in "Beyond Westworld", Kate Jackson's not-tied gag blooper in "Dark Shadows", etc.? :-) |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday March 21 17:15:32 2004 Re: Lost World WB 2:00pm central 3-20-Sat |
| Per wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > > > > > scene in which Jennifer O'Dell seems to be > > > pulling a > > > > white cloth off her face. Could it be a > gag? > I made that entry, on the episode "The > Visitor". The description was based on HtF caps that > are still up. (so go see for yourself) > We see J O'Dell captured by thick grey tentacles from > some plant. They grap her body from her neck down. There > are no white cloths or gags, so I am not sure why you > think it is that episode? In the episode that was previewed, Jennifer O'Dell and her colleagues are menaced by a cult that worships carnivorous plants. In the preview for the episode, she seemed to be pulling a white cloth off her face. I definitely did see a white cloth tied around her neck. I surmised it was a gag. |
| Sunday March 21 17:29:59 2004 Re: Dunst No Damsel In Spidey 2 |
| Sure man. To each his own, etc....
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| Doctor Gagger |
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| Sunday March 21 22:01:40
2004 West Coast Alert: Sopranos |
| Tonight's Soprano's episode on HBO had a quick scene. A female gangster is duct taped and gagged. Short scene, You don't see her hands tied. Somewhat violent scene. The actress is Patti D'Arbenville who plays Lorraine. |
| Viking |
| Sunday March 21 22:06:34 2004 Re: West Coast Alert: Sopranos |
| Viking wrote:
> Tonight's Soprano's episode on HBO had a quick scene. A > female gangster is duct taped and gagged. Short scene, > You don't see her hands tied. Somewhat violent scene. The > actress is Patti D'Arbenville who plays Lorraine. It was short but a good one with lots of mmmpphing. And although somewhat violent no one gets killed or anything. All in all I'd say it was a nice suprise scene :) |
| Sunday March 21 23:36:55 2004 Re: The Whole Ten Yards |
| Spanky wrote:
I saw three people (one > a female) that appeared to be tied up. Anyone else see > it? I saw the preview for this movie today. Looks like Matthre Perrys wife (Nice looking blond actress from the first movie) gets kidnapped to make Bruce Willis charicter come out of hideing. The previews only showed a glimpse of the bad guys going after the blond and then you dont see her through the entire preview,the bad guys do tell Perry that they have kidnapped her and are holding her ion a "safe place" instead you see the antics between Willis, Perry and the female hit (Actress from Saving Silverman why oh why cant I remember her name). It appeared Perry, Willis and she get tied to chairs in the middle of things back to back to back. Possibilities, but far from a conformation |
| Cleve |
| Sunday March 21 23:46:22 2004 Re: The Whole Ten Yards |
| Cleve wrote:
> I saw the preview for this movie today. Looks like > Matthre Perrys wife... OK I just conducted a little research.. (yes, yes, I should have done it before the forst post) The two female leads are.... Natasha Henstdiche (Kidnappee) and Amanda Peete.. (Not a kidnapee....and put on a pound or two since "saveing Silverman) There is a web site for he movie (see below) and when i watched the trailer again, it is Natasha, Perry and Willis who get tied up back to back to back..the good news there is that Natasha is apparently in a "safe place" where she could still run off...so if she could run off, one could assume she could yell for help? |
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