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Thursday February 12 00:51:38 2004
Re: Wrestling Caps
This post was moved to Anything Goes.

Poster: Sympathy
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Thursday February 12 01:07:56 2004
Re: Angel
> They panned the camera behind Amy and you could see her
> hands and there were no ropes!

I am VERY angry about this. If the director or actress didn't want to have her wrists bound, then the director SHOULD NOT have shown her wrists at all! There is no excuse for this. It is just carelessness. It's amazing that such a blatant example of unprofessionalism can be allowed to happen. This brainless director has almost ruined the scene for me.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Thursday February 12 01:26:56 2004
Angel
Calm down Tapemaster. It's not the end of the world. I thought the scene was quite good. If you noticed Amy's ankles were tied slightly different in a number of shots so they probably tied her a number of times, probably over a couple of days. Maybe at some point Amy wrists got sore so they gave her a break. If you've ever tied anybody up you know that you can't keep someone's wrists bound that long without it hurting a bit. She was also standing on the chair so keeping balance may have been an issue. I was just happy to see her gagged - she's much prettier than Charisma Carpenter in my opinion.

You know you can't take realism too seriously with mainstream TV. If you want tight bondage go to one of the commercial bondage sites.

KM
Thursday February 12 01:39:06 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
Lee wrote:

> Wow- Just caught the end of Fuse - Interactive Music
> Exchange (kind of like MTV's TRL) and saw a girl standing
> against a pole w/ wrists tied overhead chewing on a red
> cleave gag.

I didn't check the board until midnight so I missed the repeat. The good news is it repeats again Sunday afternoon. (according to my listings.) Can someone who caught the whole thing give a run down of it?
G-MaN
Thursday February 12 01:47:12 2004
Re: length of scenes
Raffish wrote:

> > fear (43 sec)
>
> Heh...yep, mine came out to 42 just now. Which second
> did I miss? :)

Maybe Marky Mark saying "Cuff her". (Or Amy asking to be spanked after she is cuffed.<g>)
G-MaN
Thursday February 12 02:11:03 2004
Re: Angel
Tapemaster wrote:


> I am VERY angry about this. If the director or actress
> didn't want to have her wrists bound, then the director
> SHOULD NOT have shown her wrists at all!

Her wrists ARE bound. Upon closeup slow motion inspection of the scene there are one or two frames where you can see black rope. This is just as her hands are partially obscured by the "All New WB" bug.

The rope appears to be very low on her wrists almost at palm level. Wes and Gunn are bound with the same kind of rope. Blame it on the camera angle and the fact that "Angel is shot in 16X9 (letterbox) and not in 4X3. In 4X3 you would have seen the rope, I assure you. Look to the right of the WB logo just about the time it's centered on her arm. Just a frame or two but it is there.

And in the first scene with Amy, she's sitting in the chair with her wrists tied to the arms with black rope.
CM
Thursday February 12 02:14:26 2004
Re: Angel
KM wrote:

> Calm down Tapemaster. It's not the end of the world. I
> thought the scene was quite good. She was also
> standing on the chair so keeping balance may have been an
> issue.
>
> You know you can't take realism too seriously with
> mainstream TV.

I understand all that. The point that I am making is that if Amy or the director didn't feel that it was desirable or necessary to tie her wrists, then there should not have been a shot of her wrists at all. The audience is supposed to believe that her hands are tied behind her back. By showing the audience a shot of her hands so that we can see that they are not indeed tied, the illusion is spoiled. If we did not see her wrists at all, the illusion would still be maintained. Or, they could have took footage of her wrists bound without standing on the chair, and then edited the shots together to give the illusion that she was indeed bound (wrists and ankles), gagged, and in grave danger.

I am upset because this scene could have been a classic. Her feet were tied, and she was even barefoot. The close-ups of her gagged face were great.


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Thursday February 12 02:18:52 2004
Re: Angel
CM wrote:

> Her wrists ARE bound. Upon closeup slow motion inspection
> of the scene there are one or two frames where you can
> see black rope. This is just as her hands are partially
> obscured by the "All New WB" bug.

Thanks for pointing this out. I will take another look at it. Maybe this scene can still be a classic.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Thursday February 12 02:58:19 2004
Re: Angel
Tapemaster wrote:

> CM wrote:
>
> > Her wrists ARE bound. Upon closeup slow motion
> inspection
> > of the scene there are one or two frames where you
> can
> > see black rope. This is just as her hands are
> partially
> > obscured by the "All New WB" bug.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out. I will take another look at
> it. Maybe this scene can still be a classic.

Well, just to weigh in...I'd have to say not, at least if this is your sole criterion. I went frame-by-frame as well while working on the clip just now, and I'm sad to say that not a single one of those frames gives me any reason to believe that those are ropes and not just shadows. If CM can convince me otherwise, of course, I'll edit my DB entry appropriately. For now, though, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Oh well. I liked the scene anyway. And look how sad poor Amy is because you don't like it too. You're heartless! Heartless, I tell you!
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/WhyWeFight.jpg
Raffish
Thursday February 12 03:28:07 2004
Re: Angel
> Her wrists ARE bound. Upon closeup slow motion inspection
> of the scene there are one or two frames where you can
> see black rope. This is just as her hands are partially
> obscured by the "All New WB" bug.

I have looked at this closely a few times now, and I just don't see any ropes. It looks like she is holding her wrist with her hand. However, the guy to the left of her does have a black line across his wrist. Maybe it is rope, maybe it's a watchband. I don't know. I just don't see any ropes around Amy's hands and wrists. I hope I'm wrong. I hope that the ropes are there but I just can't see them.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Thursday February 12 03:39:23 2004
Re: Angel
> Oh well. I liked the scene anyway. And look how sad
> poor Amy is because you don't like it too. You're heartless! Heartless, I tell you!

Don't misunderstand me, I like the scene. In fact I think it is great. It is just that I would rather not have seen that shot of her wrists. It's all about maintaining the illusion. I am very pleased that we got closeups of Amy's beautiful gagged face complete with a white over-the-mouth gag!

Great cap, Raffish!

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Thursday February 12 04:19:07 2004
Re: Angel
CM wrote:

> "Angel is shot in 16X9 (letterbox) and not in 4X3.
> In 4X3 you would have seen the rope, I assure you.

Probably not. With Mutant Enemy shows the screen info at the frame top and bottom are the same as the 16X9 version. Having said that, later posts suggest that there is something seen even in the widescreen version suggesting bonds.
iD
Thursday February 12 04:42:18 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
G-MaN wrote:

> > Fuse - Interactive Music
>
> > Exchange (kind of like MTV's TRL) and saw a girl
> standing
> > against a pole w/ wrists tied overhead chewing on a
> red
> > cleave gag.
>
> I didn't check the board until midnight so I missed the
> repeat. The good news is it repeats again Sunday
> afternoon. (according to my listings.) Can someone who
> caught the whole thing give a run down of it?

Based on the previous post I tuned in for the rerun and kept checking. It appears that the scene is a running gag (pardon the pun)throughout the show and you get snippets from at least the first commercial break on. I suggest you just plan on taping the full hour and sorting things out later.
iD
Thursday February 12 04:58:55 2004
Re: Angel
Raffish wrote:

> Well, just to weigh in...I'd have to say not, at least if
> this is your sole criterion. I went frame-by-frame as
> well while working on the clip just now, and I'm sad to
> say that not a single one of those frames gives me any
> reason to believe that those are ropes and not just
> shadows. If CM can convince me otherwise, of course,
> I'll edit my DB entry appropriately. For now, though,
> that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

To weigh in as well, if we're talking about the pan behind Amy during the act 3 intro, the evidence is inconclusive based on that scene. I didn't look at it frame by frame, but between the speed of camera movement and the WB logo I can't draw a conclusion. It's kind of hard to tell how much of her wrists we're seeing, and IMO it's possible some ropes could be present below the frame.

Big kudos Raffish for getting a screen cap up so soon, and I hope a clip (and maybe more caps) will soon follow. As somebody who's paid to get your clips for almost 2 years now, you can be assured that I will be among the first to "see you on the flip side". :)

iD
Thursday February 12 05:08:47 2004
Re: Angel
Raffish wrote:

> If CM can convince me otherwise, of course,
> I'll edit my DB entry appropriately. For now, though,
> that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Oops, almost forgot. Great DB entry. I usually race to do the Angel entries just to make sure they get done right. Other plans kept me away tonight and I saw yours an hour ago before knowing who did it. Anyway, ego aside, I couldn't have done a better job. Looking back I should have known it was you. Our styles are similar, lenghty but very literate and all the important details are covered.

Not to second guess the powers that be here, but this entry is IMO a textbook example of how DB entries should be done.
iD
Thursday February 12 05:39:54 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
G-MaN wrote:

> The good news is it repeats again Sunday
> afternoon. (according to my listings.) Can someone who
> caught the whole thing give a run down of it?

OK, I forgot about the details. It's a twentysomething woman with long dark hair wearing a black sleeveless top and black (possibily bell bottom) slacks, showing a slight midrift. She is indeed chewing on a red cleave gag and her hands are tied to a pole AOH with black rope. She may also be tied at the ankles but as I was doing other things while checking in it's not clear.

While I also didn't pay much attention to what the hosts were saying, the implication seemed to be that she was struggling to get free. The funny thing is that with each new shot of her the woman seemed to be struggling less and less, to the point of being almost in a trance.

Is this database worthy?

In return, can you tell me when it repeats EST on Sunday?
iD
Thursday February 12 09:41:51 2004
Re: Gagged for no reason
> Anyone who ties and gags Kim Basinger is definitely NOT
> deranged.

Kim is a trouper. Not only has she got the sexiest moth ever. She'd rather swing an axe than unstuff that gag cleaved in her mouth. A woman who has her priorites straight.
Cinchit Tyter
Thursday February 12 09:49:19 2004
Re: Gagged for no reason
> Kim is a trouper. Not only has she got the sexiest moth
> ever. She'd rather swing an axe than unstuff that gag
> cleaved in her mouth.

Charlton Heston was also the director of the film.

"Keep that gag in your mouth, damn you!!!"
Robert Thorn
Thursday February 12 10:04:03 2004
Fuse IMX caps
I think the premise was that this girl was "the Amazing Wanda" an escape artist from the Czech Republic. She was given the length of a music video to escape from the tie up. This occured about 10 minutes into the show and since she wasn't very good at her profession, stayed bound and gagged till the end of the show. Great stuff....
http://www.abacontel.com/IMX001.jpg
http://www.abacontel.com/IMX002.jpg
awol
jthrift0@infionline.net
Thursday February 12 10:12:21 2004
Re: Angel
> I am upset because this scene could have been a classic.
> Her feet were tied, and she was even barefoot. The
> close-ups of her gagged face were great.

I was happy to see this scene; Fred looked very cute with her one button cardigan and doe eyes, but... I don't know whether it's the decent amount of scenes this year, that are all good or fair (none great) or whether I have become more discriminating, but bondage and DID, in film, is supposed to be exciting, tense, fun, thrilling, edge of your seat, erotic, perverse, and a host of other classic themes. The irony of the Angel scene was that she was also in dire peril (hung by the neck) but I didn't feel any of that (like in The Tenent), Fred's peril was... well, boring and static.

Follow me on this, her co-worker walks in the office to find her bound and gagged to a chair (think Virginia Mayo in Walter Mitty). Her captor has no weapon on her. She is tied and gagged so as to not warn him the guy is behind the door waiting to clobber him. So when Wesley opens the door what does Fred do? Mmmph loudly? Twist forward and nod her head towards the back of the door? Try right at that moment to get loose or slip her gag? No, she remains almost perfectly still; possibly her eyes moved just a fraction but there was no close up so you couldn't tell anyway. After that, check every semi close up or two second passing shot of Fred, she is virtualy motionless and expressionless the rest of the episode. I was hoping for the rescue/untie scene to see if she would even say anything but they never showed it.

I suppose this is a case of the writer/director thinking all along that Fred's character was just background for Angel to do his thing and I (we) project so much into her scene (our curse). But even if that is true it's also true that I am getting very bored with static DID; man, when I think of Amy Thompson's scene in It Takes A Thief rolling across the floor to plug the phone in... I get so depressed.

Anyway, I liked the scene, you don't see over the mouth white cloth much anymore and that was nice, and about my rant, I think I'm right for "me", don't really know about anyone else.

Thursday February 12 10:26:37 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
> > The good news is it repeats again Sunday
> > afternoon....


Cool! Does anyone have a time for this show Sunday?
Thursday February 12 10:45:48 2004
The-Beast-That-Cannot-Be-Fed vs. Fred
For cryin' out loud! Reach into your pockets, ante up twelve cents worth of suspension-of-disbelief, and ENJOY THE DAMN SCENE!!! Poor Amy stood on that chair pretending to be bound, gagged, & in dire peril for Gwen knows how long, & we gripe & complain? Pretend her wrists were bound with wire, pretend the shadows *are* black cord, pretend *anything*, just ENJOY THE DAMN SCENE!!! ...& hope they have something in store for Fred in March. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Thursday February 12 10:47:59 2004
Re: Angel
I gotta say that even without seeing that Amy wasn't even tied up, this scene was a disappointment. Amy didn't even try to warn the guy he was gonna get hit by the villan (she did mmmpph a little, but she should have tried to warn him) but she looked bored and completly okay with the fact this guy wanted to KILL her (you think the director never saw Nicole Kidman in Batman eh?) and the two GUYS had better gags than Amy. All in all, it sucked.
Thursday February 12 11:09:55 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > > The good news is it repeats again Sunday
> > > afternoon....
>
>
> Cool! Does anyone have a time for this show Sunday?

Yeah, and which channel is it on? Apologies, but I don't recall seeing that listed in any of the posts.

KEVIN
Thursday February 12 11:30:57 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
> The previews for next week's Smallville show that
> apparently there will be a woman obsessed with (I guess)
> Clark and will do anything to have him. It may turn out
> to be a "Play Misty For Me"-like scenario and
> Lana ends up tied & gagged by the demented lady.

"Got you, you little bitch. I'm going to tie and gag you so you can listen to me and Clark make love and there won't be a thing you can do but listen to us in agony. Bwah-hah-ha."
http://www.kryptonsite.com/obsession17.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/obsession20.jpg
Thursday February 12 11:36:10 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
Help! I'm being stalked by a villain who'll likely tie me up without using a gag!!"
http://www.kryptonsite.com/obsession01.jpg
Lana Lang
Thursday February 12 11:47:56 2004
amy acker rates a 4
Just saw this episode of Angel. All in all I would rate it as a 4 out of a possible 10 score. the 4 is rated as such. The premise was good, she was dressed in a skirt (dress)maybe stockings and bare feet on a chair, hand behnd back. Why ony a 4. Limited mmmmphing, male interference twice fold plus their gags where cleaves while hers wasn't, it definitly looked out of place,(don't know if it was her idea or a squimesh director) no close up on the bare feet and limited struggling therefore she can only get a 4 for the effort. Time is running out for this series and now for a good scene for Amy
nonamecity
http://www.ready46.net/
Thursday February 12 11:57:19 2004
Re: amy acker rates a 4
> Time is running out for this series and now for a good scene for Amy

Or at least a scene without putzes

Thursday February 12 12:04:44 2004
Re: Tru Calling
> > AJ Cook is extremely cute and she doesn't seem to
> mind being tied up.

She looks very cute in the Teen Sorcery scene. You couldn't tell by this pic becasue of the camera distortion.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/TeenSorcery.jpg
Thursday February 12 12:16:48 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
KEVIN wrote:

> Yeah, and which channel is it on? Apologies, but I don't recall seeing that listed in any of the posts.


It's called FUSE- a fairly new music network.. kinda like MTV and VH1.


awol
jthrift0@infionline.net
Thursday February 12 12:34:43 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
> "Got you, you little bitch. I'm going to tie and
> gag you so you can listen to me and Clark make love and
> there won't be a thing you can do but listen to us in
> agony. Bwah-hah-ha."

"...and I'm going to unbutton that heavy jean jacket so I can see what Clark is missing!"


Thursday February 12 12:42:54 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
"...and I'm going to unbutton that heavy jean jacket
so I can see what Clark is missing....just like Molly Ringwald did in 'Malicious'"


Thursday February 12 12:43:24 2004
Re: The-Beast-That-Cannot-Be-Fed vs. Fred
>Van wrote:
> For cryin' out loud! Reach into your pockets, ante up
> twelve cents worth of suspension-of-disbelief, and ENJOY
> THE DAMN SCENE!!!

Van, I did enjoy the scene, but she was motionless and expressionless throughout the entire scene (that's odd); I mean virtually stock still and lifeless. Bringing this up as a bone of contention is perfectly acceptable and is not complaining (it's criticism), IMHO (and of course, I respect your opinion also). Writers and actors need to "earn" suspension of disbelief, it doesn't come automatically just because it's on TV.
Thursday February 12 12:51:00 2004
Re: The-Beast-That-Cannot-Be-Fed vs. Fred
> I did enjoy the scene, but she was motionless and
> expressionless throughout the entire scene (that's odd);
> I mean virtually stock still and lifeless.

Any other examples of statuesque DinD's?
Thursday February 12 13:16:00 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
awol wrote:

> KEVIN wrote:
>
> > Yeah, and which channel is it on? Apologies, but I
> don't recall seeing that listed in any of the posts.
>
>
> It's called FUSE- a fairly new music network.. kinda like
> MTV and VH1.
>

Thanks for the assist. I just checked the digital menu for today and it shows Fuse airing this IMX show at 5 and 10 p.m. CST. Do they just repeat the previous week's daily episodes with a big weekend marathon, like SoapNet? I'm just trying to get a handle of when this might be airing Sunday.

KEVIN
Thursday February 12 13:23:27 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
Great expression from Kristin. Imagine how it would look with a gag.
http://www.kryptonsite.com/obsession17.jpg
Thursday February 12 13:24:42 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
iD wrote:

> It appears that the scene is a running gag
> (pardon the pun)throughout the show and you get snippets
> from at least the first commercial break on.

Thanks iD & awol. My listings show the same episode repeats Sunday at 3pm EST. I'll make a VCR Alert after I finish my morning coffee.
G-MaN
http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/200304Season.html
Thursday February 12 13:53:29 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
And how did I forget to thank Lee also for the original alert.
G-MaN
Thursday February 12 13:57:03 2004
Mom
Does anyone know of any mainstream movies or tv shows where a mother or sister were B@G'ed by son or brother?
Thursday February 12 14:08:48 2004
Mother or sister b&g'd by son or brother
>...mainstream movies or tv shows where a mother or sister were B@G'ed by son or brother?
----
Boston Public ("Chapter Twenty-Two").

Kinky-napper
Thursday February 12 14:37:21 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Great expression from Kristin. Imagine how it would look
> with a gag.

It wouldn't be hard for the female villain to slip Lana's head scarf right into a cleave-gag.

Thursday February 12 14:38:14 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
Rich wrote:

> Jacklyn Lick on "The Surreal Life"
> this Thursday 2004-02-12 8:00pm central time
> on the Warner Brothers channel.
> Jacklyn Lick is appearing on Mad Mad House
> on Thursday 2004-03-11 8:00pm central time
> on the Sci Fi channel.
> __________________________________________
> Ok, but who is Jacklyn Lick? Are you saying there is/may
>
> be a scene this Thursday? Did I miss something about an
> old alert? Thanks.
> __________________________________________
>
> She is a porn star/fetish diva/bondagette.
> Click on the link.
> I believe there is a STRONG
> possibility of bondage with her on the air.
> http://jacklynlick.com


There is absolutely zero reason to suspect bondage just because Lick is involved. She's appearing on "Simple Life" as a part of Ron Jeremy's porno harem, and there will be no practical context in which she could be tied up. Ditto for "Mad Mad House."

Plenty of bondagettes have appeared in mainstream fare with bondage not entering the equation.

Royler
Royler20@aol.com
Thursday February 12 16:18:11 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
G-MaN wrote:

> Thanks iD & awol. My listings show the same episode
> repeats Sunday at 3pm EST. I'll make a VCR Alert after I
> finish my morning coffee.

I see it listed for 6PM EST and 11 PM EST Tonight. No idea if its new or the old stuff...
JH
Thursday February 12 17:02:44 2004
Re: Angel
I agree with the others who say the scene basically sucked.

Let me add another negative: Amy Acker (Yawn)

I'm sorry, but any actress who's body type matches Olive Oyl simply doesn't rate much on The Greyman's babe scale. The words "boyish figure" come to mind, and a big yuck on that. Seeing Cordy last week only reminds me how badly "Fred" fails to measure up.

http://www.greymanspage.com/charismacarpenter10.jpg
The Greyman
Thursday February 12 17:13:40 2004
More Amy!
Okay, clips and caps of last night's Angel scene are up on the DiDheap.

(BTW, thanks for the kind words on my DB entry, iD! Like you, I dig the show and like to make sure it gets its due.)
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/WhyWeFight2.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/heap/
Thursday February 12 18:22:00 2004
Re: Mother or sister b&g'd by son or brother
> Boston Public ("Chapter Twenty-Two").

Any other scenes. Does anyone have caps of the Boston Public Scene?

Doug
Thursday February 12 19:32:45 2004
This week's update
This week: Amy Acker in Angel "Why We Fight," Joanna Johnson in The Bold And The Beautiful, Jaime Lyn Bauer in Days Of Our Lives, Catherine Bach in The Dukes Of Hazzard "Lawman Of The Year," Kristen Miller in She Spies "While You Were Out," Chloe Hunter in a deleted scene from Spun, and Shirlee Elliot in Sweet Valley High "Crimes And Cappuccinos."
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/0213.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Thursday February 12 19:33:35 2004
Re: Smallville possibility?
Lana Lang wrote:

> Help! I'm being stalked by a villain who'll likely tie
> me up without using a gag!!"

Good call, JP...this definitely looks to have possibilities! Kristen needs a good "tie and gag" scene in the worst way!
rex
Thursday February 12 19:37:37 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
>....I have appeared in 8 MM (Nicolas Cage) in
> bondage, and several other mainstream projects with
> bondage. Cinemax films, etc. If I am able to use
> bondage in my scenes, I try to do it...[SNIP]
Love,
Jacklyn Lick

Wow...THE Jacklyn Lick here on Brian's Page! Jacklyn, have any of your mainstream show/movie bondage appearances invloved you being gagged as well as tied up?

Thursday February 12 20:06:07 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
This post was deleted.

Poster: Jacklyn Lick
Reason: Do not post pictures featuring nudity.
The Moderator
Thursday February 12 20:12:18 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
awol wrote:

> I think the premise was that this girl was "the
> Amazing Wanda" an escape artist from the Czech
> Republic.

I have to say that final cap is nice one.

Brian R
Thursday February 12 20:14:36 2004
Re: Fuse - IMX
awol wrote:

> It's called FUSE- a fairly new music network.. kinda like
> MTV and VH1.


On my cable system, it's in the digital tier.




Brian R
Thursday February 12 20:25:01 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
Royler wrote:
There is absolutely zero reason to suspect bondage just
because Lick is involved. She's appearing on "Simple
Life" as a part of Ron Jeremy's porno harem, and
there will be no practical context in which she could be
tied up. Ditto for "Mad Mad House."
Plenty of bondagettes have appeared in mainstream fare
with bondage not entering the equation.
_______________________________________
Sorry, you are probably correct.
I posted because the last time I got an email alert
from her there were ropes involved.

The good news is that some West Coasters caught the
Angel episode.
Thanx.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Thursday February 12 20:25:59 2004
More comics fun
See link below.

Brian R
http://comics.com/comics/chickweed/archive/chickweed-20040211.html
Thursday February 12 20:44:57 2004
Re: Fuse IMX caps
awol wrote:

> I think the premise was that this girl was "the
> Amazing Wanda" an escape artist from the Czech
> Republic.

Awesome caps. I love the idea - I'm normally not big on "hands over head" ties, but the way they were tied to that pole was very nice. And the scene was all done in good fun too - I'm a bit of a sucker for "playful" tie-ups. Thanks for sharing.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Thursday February 12 21:16:43 2004
Re: This week's update
Raffish wrote:

> http://www.abductor.com/raffish/

This has gotta be one of your best updates yet!
The Bold and the Beautiful scene has so many features I like - cute woman (obviously), chair, hands behind, close-ups of rope tying, non-tape gag, blindfold (for added drama), distinctly visible ropes on her torso and legs, and a nice screen time. Too bad about the darkness. Oh yeah, and nice logical use of a gag ("I'm in here! I'm in MMPHH!"), and gratuitous use of a blindfold. And the complete lack of physical violence (no abuse towards the prisoner) is another thing that propels it to the top of my list.
The Dukes of Hazzard scene was nice also.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Thursday February 12 21:20:33 2004
Re: More comics fun
Brian R wrote:

> See link below.
>
Yup, that was brought up on c3c (cartoon/comics captives) also. I added it to my comics page (see link). Any other mainstream comics you find with DiD scenes would be much appreciated.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
http://www2.superstories.net/cartooncapture/comic.htm
Thursday February 12 21:21:45 2004
Re: Tru Calling
Raffish wrote:

> > AJ Cook is extremely cute and she doesn't seem to
> mind
> > being tied up.

Does anyone have her clip?

Bowers
Thursday February 12 21:30:59 2004
Re: Statuesque DiDs
>
> Any other examples of statuesque DinD's?

Lana Morris in "Trouble in Store". A tragedy, cuz she looks great from a low angle in that classic OTM.

The print currently shown on UK TV from time to time may be shortened; back in the 70s, when I first saw the movie, I thought there were two scenes, with Ms Morris being tied onscreen under the direction of a female who said something like, "That should hold her!" IIRC, she was more animated in that scene.

BTW, as a face and gag fan, I have no complaints whatsoever about Amy Acker - except not enough close-ups. :-)
Mad Dan
Thursday February 12 21:58:01 2004
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Kerhop
kerhop@oz.net
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html

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