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Saturday February 21 00:19:09 2004
Re: The Ballad of Bettie Page
> I myself would've had higher hopes for the
> previously-rumored teaming of Liv Tyler and Martin Scorcese

Sorry for not paying close attention K-N, but if LT and MS are out, who is in? Thanks.
Saturday February 21 01:13:52 2004
Re: This week's update
Raffish wrote:

> http://www.abductor.com/raffish/

Awesome, you're collecting cartoon scenes also. I liked the Buster & Chauncey clip - thanks for putting it up! Heck, if only more live-action scenes did some of the things this scene did - onscreen tying, onscreen gagging, close-ups of bound hands, and no gloomavision!
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Saturday February 21 01:42:42 2004
MARIA BELLO
I never got to see her scene, however brief, from MR. AND MRS. SMITH. Could someone post it? That would be great.

Thx.
eddie
Saturday February 21 01:56:04 2004
Re: Guiding Light
Tapemaster wrote:

>
> The database shows that she has had 2 scenes, but only 1
> with a gag. Is that what you are referring to, or are you
> referring to ANOTHER scene of Aubrey Dollar bound and
> gagged that most of us are not aware of?
>
That is likely an error. She was tied up with duct tape the second time but not gagged.

Also, the Rae character on "OTTL" is likely being killed off. The actress was fired by ABC last month, so she's gone.
Saturday February 21 03:57:33 2004
Re: This week's update
> Awesome, you're collecting cartoon scenes also.

Well...yeah, kinda. :)

> I liked
> the Buster & Chauncey clip - thanks for putting it
> up! Heck, if only more live-action scenes did some of the
> things this scene did - onscreen tying, onscreen gagging,
> close-ups of bound hands, and no gloomavision!

Agreed.

I've been tending to avoid cartoon scenes in my free updates, for the same reason that I've been tending to avoid handgag/chloroform-only and non-gag scenes: because their appeal is a bit more limited, and I've only got ~25MB per week with which to work. Still, feedback like this definitely influences my choices.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/cartoon.jpg
Raffish
Saturday February 21 05:09:35 2004
Re: Billy the Kid Documentary
(unsigned poster) wrote:


> > was tied hands behind, and I think gagged, when her
> baby
> > was kidnapped
>
> Sounds like the Heather Locklear scene from theseries Dynasty.

Thanks for that info. I always confused those two series.
Bob
Saturday February 21 06:20:12 2004
The Ballad of Bettie Page
> > I myself would've had higher hopes for the previously-rumored teaming of Liv Tyler and Martin Scorsese
> > >
> Sorry for not paying close attention K-N, but if LT and MS are out, who is in? Thanks.
----
Bettie Page: Gretchen Mol; Director: Mary Harron. On Feb 20th, another Brian's Pager had posted the link below to CHUD News.
Kinky-napper
http://www.chud.com/news/feb04/feb17page.php3
Saturday February 21 10:07:46 2004
Weekend update
A quick 'on the road' update to tide you over the weekend.
Enjoy!
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight
Saturday February 21 10:16:51 2004
Re: JAG
Biff wrote:

> Tapemaster wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for the anti-alert, Historian.

Stupid terrorist! Completely intimidated by Mac telling him if he was a real man he wouldn't be pointing a gun at a woman. Should've tied her hands behind her back, then searched her for the wire that did him in.
ss
Saturday February 21 10:32:14 2004
Re: Romance (Director's Cut)
nonamecity wrote:

> Just saw the Directors cut of this French flick
> 'Romance'. It took quite a while to find it, and I
> wasn't about to see the watered down version by
> Blockbuster.


Which is why I'm sure you'll not hesitate to tell us poor sots who have had to settle for the watered-down version at Blockbuster where you found the genuine article.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one else has asked by now.
An Old Friend
Saturday February 21 12:13:20 2004
makin money fast
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Poster: mo
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Saturday February 21 12:19:58 2004
Re: makin money fast
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Poster: Cleve
Reason: Please don't respond to obvious off-topic messages. This make more work for me.
The Moderator
Saturday February 21 12:20:35 2004
Re: makin money fast
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Poster: Malasfan
Reason: Please don't respond to obvious off-topic messages. This make more work for me.
The Moderator
Saturday February 21 13:08:06 2004
Re: Camino a Premio Lo Nuestro
G-MaN wrote:

> It also looks like an awards ceremony show so I don't
> know if it is from this year's show or maybe just a clip from last year.

It definitely looks like her wrists are strapped. Plus the chains sort of imply bondage. Looks like something worth taping.
Mark O
Saturday February 21 13:14:23 2004
Britney Blindfolded on ET
On this weekend's ET on MTV show, there was a promo round 17-20 minute mark for Entertainment Tonight, showing Britney blindfolded. The teaser said something like, Britney in a Blindfold, on the next Entertainment Tonight...

Might be a new music video shoot? Eh, might be worth checking out. I assume they mean this Monday's Entertainment Tonight, Check your Local Listings..

I'll add a reminder on the vcr alerts too..
Brit
Saturday February 21 13:57:32 2004
Cowboy Bebop - Ballad of Fallen Angels
New vidcaps posted from Cowboy Bebop - Ballad of Fallen Angels.
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/cowboy_bebop/ballad_of_fallen_angels/,09_small.jpg
perl
reckonwith69@hotmail.com
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/cowboy_bebop/ballad_of_fallen_angels/
Saturday February 21 14:00:33 2004
ET
entertainment tonight is also on tonight at 7pm and other times tommorow, so it could be on any of the shows
Bowers
Saturday February 21 14:00:59 2004
Spy Groove - Tokyo Takedown
New vidcaps posted from Spy Groove - Tokyo Takedown.
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/spy_groove/tokyo_takedown/,01_small.jpg
perl
reckonwith69@hotmail.com
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/spy_groove/tokyo_takedown/
Saturday February 21 15:28:13 2004
Re: This week's update
Raffish wrote:

> Agreed.
>
> I've been tending to avoid cartoon scenes in my free
> updates, for the same reason that I've been tending to
> avoid handgag/chloroform-only and non-gag scenes: because
> their appeal is a bit more limited, and I've only got
> ~25MB per week with which to work. Still, feedback like
> this definitely influences my choices.

I'd hope so! ;)

From that little collage you posted, I'd like to see the scenes from Mary-Kate and Ashley IN ACTION!, and Sabrina The Animated Series. Both scenes, from what I've seen of them, look like they contain all the best elements of DiD (except gags, but they're not as important to me). Hopefully that'll influence your choices. ;)
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Saturday February 21 16:46:23 2004
Outer Limits WB 3:30pm central 2-21-Sat
Girl gets strapped down to a gurney
with black straps, wrists strapped
to separate sides, ankles strapped.

Not much of a scene though.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/did/did.htm
Saturday February 21 17:45:58 2004
Melrose Pace on Style!
Does anyone's TV listings give the titles for the upcoming episodes of "Melrose Place" on Style!? Zap2it.com has stopped posting the titles of the weekday episodes. "Asses to Ashes" should be coming around soon and I would like to get a clearer copy of it. (Even though having two Jaime Luners in the bathtub isn't all that bad.)
G-MaN
Saturday February 21 18:13:58 2004
Tool box murders DVD
The DVD of the Tool Box Murders features commentary from the star Pamelyn Ferdin. Has anyone seen it? Does she comment on being gagged in the movie?
Ron
Saturday February 21 18:26:55 2004
Andromeda WB 5:23pm central 2-21-Sat
Pretty damsel has her hands cuffed in front
with high tech restraints.

This one is not much of a scene either.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Saturday February 21 18:40:06 2004
Andromeda WB 5:35pm central 2-21-Sat
2nd damsel has her hands tied in front
with black leather thongs.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/did/did.htm
Saturday February 21 18:56:25 2004
Re: The New Batman Movie
> It's hard (for me) to divorce the bondage scene from how
> it's presented. If it's presented in a trite,
> predictable way, the overall value is obviously lessened.
> You're right tho, I am not a fan of a lot of the stuff in
> the database. Different strokes.

Well, this brings up an interesting idea for a survey: what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic presentation (movie or TV)?

I'm not talking mediocre here -- frex, Terror Among Us had a pretty durned good bondage scene or ten, but it was at worst a mediocre TV movie. And Amazon Warrior was a dreadful sord and sandal flick, but it's bondage scene was horrible.

No, the movie/TV show has to absolutely stink on ice and the bondage scene has got to be surprisingly good.

My first thought for a nominee would be Lowball. "The Thing With Two Heads" would be right up there, too.


Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 19:06:33 2004
Re: anime vs. American toons w/bondage
> I've been tending to avoid cartoon scenes in my free
> updates, for the same reason that I've been tending to
> avoid handgag/chloroform-only and non-gag scenes: because
> their appeal is a bit more limited, and I've only got
> ~25MB per week with which to work. Still, feedback like
> this definitely influences my choices.

An impressive set of caps, but you know, I doubt if the lot of them are 1/10 as good as Fencer of Minerva, Dragon Pink, the Wordsworth Saga and quite a few other adult anime which have very strong plotlines along with all the bondage scenes. Even relatively tame fair like Dragon Knights (which contains no sex scenes and is more of a straight DiD story with nudity added) beats U.S. cartoons senseless.

I mean, if you like American toons with bondage scenes, do NOT watch anime. There will be no turning back.
Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 19:12:28 2004
Re: The New Batman Movie
Pat Powers wrote:

> Well, this brings up an interesting idea for a survey:
> what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic
> presentation (movie or TV)?
>
> I'm not talking mediocre here -- frex, Terror Among Us
> had a pretty durned good bondage scene or ten, but it was
> at worst a mediocre TV movie. And Amazon Warrior was a
> dreadful sord and sandal flick, but it's bondage scene
> was horrible.
>
> No, the movie/TV show has to absolutely stink on ice and
> the bondage scene has got to be surprisingly good.
>
> My first thought for a nominee would be Lowball.
> "The Thing With Two Heads" would be right up there, too.

Way too easy PP!! "The Ghost In the Invisible Bikini" had, imho, the best bondage scene in any bad movie that has ever been put on tape. In fact, I may even go so far as to say it is the best bondage scene ever..in any movie good or bad!

Mark O
Saturday February 21 19:34:43 2004
Re:
> what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic
> presentation (movie or TV)?
>

Ghoulies III
Saturday February 21 19:56:50 2004
Re:
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic
>
> > presentation (movie or TV)?

Woman Hunt would have to be right up there, as well as
Land of the Giants.

Saturday February 21 19:58:08 2004
Re: Melrose Pace on Style!
G-MaN wrote:

> Does anyone's TV listings give the titles for the
> upcoming episodes of "Melrose Place" on Style!?

The style web site lists double episodes and episode titles on Saturdays and Sundays from 1-3. The 2nd episode on Sunday is the season premiere of the final season. So, if they run 4 per weekend, it should roll around in about 5 weeks. I'm assuming they don't air midweek, since I coulnd't find it.
Saturday February 21 20:03:01 2004
Re:
> what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic

presentation (movie or TV)?



http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/features/abductors17.jpg
Saturday February 21 20:12:52 2004
Pic Of Virginia Mayo Tied Up
Where From?
W Mitty
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3388687579&category=32988
Saturday February 21 20:13:37 2004
Re: Pic Of Virginia Mayo Tied Up
> Where From?

No gag but a much closer shot than in the movie
Saturday February 21 20:43:04 2004
Re: Pic Of Virginia Mayo Tied Up
And Barbara Bach, sort of

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3588106508&category=4945
Saturday February 21 21:08:17 2004
Re:
Nice scene in a good series


http://www.indianajones.com/young/chapter/chapter14/img/young_4_bg.jpg
Saturday February 21 21:21:28 2004
Re: Without a Trace
> >I couldn't find the name of the female star, even on
> the CBS website.
>

Hopefully Poppy will get a scene soon

http://brianspage.com/ezine/issue-2.2/images/GloryDays1.jpg
Saturday February 21 21:32:48 2004
Re:
> what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST

TJ Hooker was pretty bad outside of Heather's B&G scenes
http://fuzzweb.org/tj05.jpg
Saturday February 21 21:46:55 2004
Lizzie McGuire - Sibling Bonds
Posted new vidcaps from Lizzie McGuire - Sibling Bonds.
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/lizzie_mcguire/sibling_bonds/,03_small.jpg
perl
reckonwith69@hotmail.com
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/lizzie_mcguire/sibling_bonds/
Saturday February 21 21:51:51 2004
Re: anime vs. American toons w/bondage
Pat Powers wrote:

> I mean, if you like American toons with bondage scenes,
> do NOT watch anime. There will be no turning back.

I guess there's no accounting for taste. I'm one who doesn't necessarily want a "strong plotline", because oftentimes I'm just in the mood for a fun, well-told story, rather than a series of intertwining soap opera-esque plots. I can't really say I prefer either Japanese or Western art styles, as both countries have styles I like and dislike.

Now Pat, I remember you saying you liked nudity in your scenes and such - therefore, you'll naturally lean towards anime as Japan makes a lot of R-rated cartoons aimed exclusively at adult audiences. And naturally, being aimed specifically at adults, they'll tend to include the type of more hardcore scenes you prefer.

But I prefer softcore scenes, as well as "softcore storytelling", not to mention that I've gotten rather tired of the similarities between many of Japan's art styles (though there are still some I like a lot).

Different strokes for different folks.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Saturday February 21 22:05:02 2004
Re: Tapemaster- Major's site
Tapemaster wrote:

> went to the site and I saw the preview. However, I'm
> confused.

Suggest you post your questions on the Major's Guest Book.
Jay L
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight
Saturday February 21 22:08:50 2004
Re: Best in the Worst
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic
>
> > presentation (movie or TV)?
> >
>

...Alexa Jago in "Doomsdayer" was very nicely bound, though the scenes were brief. Still, I would venture to say that most who have suffered through the whole movie would be tempted to give it a place in the "10 Worst" category.


Overlooker
Saturday February 21 22:17:20 2004
Q about scene from Ted Bundy movie
In the Ted Bundy movie there's a scene where Boti Bliss is tied in a "Russian split" by Bundy while he makes love to her (she's his wife, hence doesn't die as a result). In the scene I taped off cable, the "Russian split" isn't very evident -- al we see is Boti's bound ankles in the corners of the frame up around her head.

It struck me that they didn't get much dramatic imagery from such a severe bondage pose. Then it occurred to me that this might be a case where some very relevant parts were cut from the scene when it went from the wide-screen theatrical format to the square TV format.

Has anybody seen the DVD of this flick? Is there more of Boti visible in the widescreen format that would have made her scene more dramatic. The write-up in the databse says Boti spent an hour and a half tied in that split for the scene and that she later complained she couldn't walk for a week after filming it. Seems like a wasted effort based on what I saw.
Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 22:18:39 2004
Parade Magazine
The "ask Marilyn" column this week features a story about a teen and her mom getting taped up by a robber.
Saturday February 21 22:22:40 2004
Re: The New Batman Movie
> Way too easy PP!! "The Ghost In the Invisible
> Bikini" had, imho, the best bondage scene in any bad
> movie that has ever been put on tape. In fact, I may even
> go so far as to say it is the best bondage scene ever..in
> any movie good or bad!

I don't know if it's the worst, but it's definitely a contender. "Two Heads" and "Invisible Bikini" were both pretty darned awful films. The bondage scene in "Invisible Bikini was great but lacked nudity, which "Lowball" had. Then again, Lowball's scenes were filmed so badly it was almost amateurish. It's a tough call.

Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 22:24:40 2004
Re:
> Ghoulies III

A definite contender -- nudity, more than one cute naked damsel seen, and ludicrously stupid-looking bad guys with a plot to match. But IIRC, no gag.
Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 22:27:07 2004
Re:
> Woman Hunt would have to be right up there, as well as
> Land of the Giants.

I haven't seen "Woman Hunt" hence can't comment on it, but Land of the Giants, while crappy and stupid, wasn't spectacularly crappy and stupid by TV standards.

Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 22:30:26 2004
Re:
> > what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic
>
> presentation (movie or TV)?

The Abductors? I'll grant you the scene with the three naked, bound and gagged cheerleaders was absolutely topnotch, but the movie just wasn't that bad. It wasn't "Usual Suspects" but it was par for the course for a 70s sexploitation B movie.


Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 22:37:26 2004
Re:
> TJ Hooker was pretty bad outside of Heather's B&G
> scenes

I never watched a single ep of T.J. Hooker, so I will take your word for it. Heather's hogtie scene was pretty strong to TV.

TV is tough because its limits on what it will show are much narrower. The best TV scene I can think of offhand is the one from Lexx (P4W), but I don't consider that a bad show. Batgirls' writhing in that sexy skintight suit in Batman might qualify (Batman was IMHO a VERY bad show).


Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 22:43:33 2004
Re:
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > what's the BEST bondage scene in the WORST dramatic
>
> > presentation (movie or TV)?
> >
>
This is one of those very subjective questions on two fronts. The BEST part, and the WORST part.
hallbird
Saturday February 21 23:09:08 2004
Re:
> This is one of those very subjective questions on two
> fronts. The BEST part, and the WORST part.

True enough, I don't think you'll ever get a definitive answer, but it's fun to see if you can come up with a consensus. I mean, there have been a lot of good scenes in bad movies, and some pretty freakin' weak scenes in good movies. The idea isn't to come up with something that can be logically established as the one and only answer, but to bring up some candidates, discuss 'em, see what people think.

Pat Powers
Saturday February 21 23:31:07 2004
Re: This week's update
> From that little collage you posted, I'd like to see the
> scenes from Mary-Kate and Ashley IN ACTION!, and Sabrina
> The Animated Series. Both scenes, from what I've seen of
> them, look like they contain all the best elements of DiD

Does anyone have or know where caps of the Felicia Hardy scene from spiderman (blonde in the skirt, standing with her arms spread in the collage)?
Doug
cobrakingus@yahoo.com
Saturday February 21 23:40:28 2004
Good bondage bad film
Pat Powers wrote:

> The
> bondage scene in "Invisible Bikini was great but
> lacked nudity, which "Lowball" had. Then again,
> Lowball's scenes were filmed so badly it was almost
> amateurish. It's a tough call.

It's definitely is a tough call and really involves personal preference which none of us will ever agree upon. For me some clothing, such as the skimpy nightgown Deborah Walley wore in the GITIB scene, was better than if she were totally nude. And of course there are those who think that the movie really doesn't qualify as "bad"..But that's what keeps us talking about this sh.t isn't it? I can think of worse things to talk about.


Mark O
Saturday February 21 23:57:01 2004
Mary Higgins Clark's Try To Remember (2004)
I assume by the absence of any discussion on this movie that no scenes turned up?

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