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Sunday February 15 00:37:00 2004
CALLING PAT POWERS
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Poster: Todd 3-D
Reason: Off-topic and abusive. DO NOT BRING THAT HERE!
The Moderator
Sunday February 15 00:37:42 2004
Re: CALLING PAT POWERS
This post was deleted.

Poster: Pat Powers
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Sunday February 15 02:56:22 2004
Scare Tactics Preview
Saw Scare Tactics preview on Sci Fi which premires new season starting March 4th. Preview showed no DID but did have one second shot at end with girl in white turtleneck sweater on couch with someone next to her (only arm showing) who had a striped shirt on with what looked like lots of sliver duct tape attached. Could have been a guy; the girl's part is someone who is next to a trunk that opens revealing a chained up guy in a leather baby suit and rubber gas mask (I have no idea what this is about). Show looks like fun and I think it's over due for a good scene as they have come close before - once had a blonde, the victim of a "collector", with her ankles chained by handcuffs to a bed.
Sunday February 15 07:30:41 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
Jacklyn Lick wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>

This sounds fantastic - any chance we can have the text of this repeated? Big thrill having a damsel-in-distress right here amongst us :-)

Especially someone who enjoys bondage rather than has to be talked into it - mmmmmm

> > >....I have appeared in 8 MM (Nicolas Cage) in

> > > bondage, and several other mainstream projects
> with
> >
> > > bondage. Cinemax films, etc. If I am able to
> use
> >
> > > bondage in my scenes, I try to do it...[SNIP]
> > Love,
> > Jacklyn Lick
Intruder
Sunday February 15 07:36:59 2004
Filmmakers bondage tricks?
I was just wondering the other day about how the filmmakers do bondage scenes, what are their tricks/secrets.

I suppose not all the actresses (esp. hollywood ones) are happy with the idea of being tied and gagged - do you think they have a choice or it solely depends on the director?

How do they make these scenes? Do they use loose rope and a minimal gag over mouth? What about tape-gag scenes?

Does anyone have any behind the scenes insights about bondage in commercial films?

Has any mainstream actress ever talked about her bondage experience (concerning a certain film for example) in the media?

I think it would be interesting to share your knowledge if you know something.

Cheers:
-Jos
Jos
Sunday February 15 08:00:24 2004
Oops
I apparently made a monstrous mistake here a little over twelve hours ago with a post I directed at Pat Power. I felt I should come here and apology to both The Moderator and Pat Powers. It won't happen again.
Todd 3-D
todd3d@yahoo.com
http://cliffhangerproductions.8m.com
Sunday February 15 08:14:38 2004
rich
cheers for putting up steve's caps. Could you put up the rest too? Especially the Cold Heart ones.
keith
Sunday February 15 08:29:26 2004
Re: La Prisionera
> > You guys my be in luck. While watching Telemundo
> tonight
> > I saw comercial for an upcoming telenovela
> > "Prisionera".

Damn, I dont check the board for a couple of days and I really miss out! After seeing the pic about La Prisionera, I checked the web and found the trailer (linked below) some of you have seen. The hair pull and the chain dangling show definite promise, but I've been duped by sensationalistic teaser-trailers before only to find the finished product wasnt up to par. Given how the talent "stacks up", I'll definitely keep tabs on the show once it starts showing, as spanish soaps are never rerun (except Uga Uga).

PS-Come on, there's gotta be more than 4 AOH-ers out there besides Malasfan, myself, TBird and Friendly Fire.
http://latinas.maisonx.com/ve/09/GabrielaSpanic001.jpg
MAV
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/paulinha_spanic/prisionera.zip
Sunday February 15 08:57:04 2004
Re: rich
keith wrote:
cheers for putting up steve's caps. Could you put up the
rest too? Especially the Cold Heart ones.
__________________________________________
Those are on Gallery 27.
I will try to work on that next weekend.
Cheers also go to G.K.
It was his donation that helps pay for the bandwidth.
http://bindherupx.net/bindherupx.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Sunday February 15 09:04:21 2004
Re: La Prisionera

> PS-Come on, there's gotta be more than 4 AOH-ers out
> there besides Malasfan, myself, TBird and Friendly Fire.

I don't care how thy're tied, just as long as they are. ;)
Sunday February 15 09:08:29 2004
Unnecessary Blindfolds
> There has been a discussion of scenes with unnecessary gags, perhaps Spun is an instance of an unnecessary blindfold... Any other instances of unnecessary blindfolds?
----
Cameron Diaz in "A Life Less Ordinary". After Delroy Lindo deals the chairtied & tape-gagged Diaz a fifth card (over her frantic mmphing protests), she chortles over receving an ace to hit "21". Her captor's retort is to pull her white headband down over her eyes, blindfolding her.
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 15 09:34:30 2004
JAG
> > Catherine Bell received the full-treatment in her first season on the series in "The Stalker" episode...
> > >
> Which was also one of the most infuritating scenes of all-time. After Catherine is quickly tape-gagged onscreen, the stalker and Harm slug it out for about 1 to 2 minutes (an eternity on TV) yet the camera never shows Catherine reacting to the fight scene, although we hear her mmmmpppffing in the background. We then get a sideways shot of her being ungagged.
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But JAG's director did demonstrate he'd learn his lesson with JAG's next DiD scene: Susan Haskell in "Wilderness of Mirrors". After her onscreen handkerchief-knockout, Haskell is shown in midrange (showing her chairtied, blindfolded and gagged). And as Harm and arch-enemy Carson Palmer taunt each other, cutaways to different camera show closeups of Lt Cmdr Parker's bound wrists from behind, then another camera angle zooms into closeups of her bound ankles as she works to maneuver her ankles closer to bump the reflector. A lot of effort went into filming this showdown scene!

Am I the only one here who thinks that since Lt. Col. MacKenzie has already had a couple scenes, it's appropriate that some time be given to JAG's other ladies? E.g., there's Karri Turner's Lt. Harriet Sims Roberts, and Zoe McClellan has been added as a series regular as Petty Officer Jennifer Coates... If only the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps really looked like the JAG ladies (I'm trying to recall an episode with an ordinary-looking female servicewoman), then service recruiters wouldn't have to work so hard signing up volunteers.
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 15 09:48:09 2004
Scene Database
> This is the first time I have contributed to this list... I think that it may be useful to put details of brief or disappointing scenes in the database as it can save wasting tape on programs that sound as if they may be interesting but turn out to be not so.

Would it make the database more useful if the details of this [Father Dowling] episode were entered to avoid raising false hopes for anyone else?
----
If there is Relevant (and non-subjective) information missing from a "Scene Database" entry, that can be entered on the "Database Corrections" page.

A Database item I find more useful than a scene's length is some sort of indication as to when it occurs (if not approximate minute, at least noting when if occurred at the Beginning/Middle/End is helpful).
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 15 10:12:53 2004
Re: Scene Database
Kinky-napper wrote:

> A Database item I find more useful than a scene's length
> is some sort of indication as to when it occurs (if not
> approximate minute, at least noting when if occurred at
> the Beginning/Middle/End is helpful).

I would say both. At least I remember the description "she was tightly tied to a chair for most of the movie" (or something like that) actually meaning one 2 second shot from a while after she disappeared, just to show what happened, then one hour later another 2 second shot when the hero freed her.
That info: in total 4-5 second of onscreen action-and that ain't subjective- would have spared me some disappointment. And yes I changed it in corrections.

Per
Sunday February 15 10:30:06 2004
Re: Scene Database
-come to think of it, there may be a number of those. For example one "The Fall Guy" scene with Markie Post. The entry says "the famous bikini scene with MP; she is tied to a chair for most of the episode" (or something, I think it's still in the DB)
Then someone over at AG told me it was actually very short and nothing to write home about. I never saw it myself, so I couldn't change it.
Per
Sunday February 15 10:48:30 2004
Y&R - Tracey Bregman
I gleaned some stuff from the CBS update page for the Friday episode. Kevin the psychopath and Lauren (Tracey Bregman) are going out for a date, in spite of the fact any number of people are suspicous of him. Somebody illegally entered his apartment to try to find something on him but didn't see anything that looked suspicious, nothing beyond a toolbox, some styrofoam, and......some duct tape. Looks like he's a good solid all-American boy. I can just see all the duct tape fans getting excited right now. (No, the update doesn't say what color the tape was.) I'd rather see handcuffs actually, but if duct tape is the best we can do...
TV Critic
http://www.cbs.com/daytime/yr/updates/daily/
Sunday February 15 10:50:58 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
This sounds fantastic - any chance we can have the text of this repeated? Big thrill having a damsel-in-distress right here amongst us :-)

Especially someone who enjoys bondage rather than has to be talked into it - mmmmmm
--------------------
I wonder what would people talk to the damsel about? My girlfriend likes bondage enough that she will actually surf the internet looking for ideas for us to try, but I never thought to actually just talk about it.
Sunday February 15 12:26:53 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
Intruder wrote:

> Jacklyn Lick wrote:
>
> > (unsigned poster) wrote:
> >
>
> This sounds fantastic

Hey, the anti top-posting software is there because I don't
you posting like that. It's not a challenge to see how
you can get around it. Trim your quotes, place your
comments following quoted material or interspersed.

You can't get by on technicalities, I can always delete
posts manually. Follow the rules.

The Moderator
Sunday February 15 12:53:21 2004
Re: rich
keith wrote:

> cheers for putting up steve's caps. Could you put up the
> rest too? Especially the Cold Heart ones.

Steve's entire archives were saved into two Yahoo groups. Some scenes were expanded by the savers with more caps.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld2/
Sunday February 15 13:14:09 2004
Re: Filmmakers bondage tricks?
Jos wrote:

> I was just wondering the other day about how the
> filmmakers do bondage scenes, what are their
> tricks/secrets.
>
> I suppose not all the actresses (esp. hollywood ones) are
> happy with the idea of being tied and gagged - do you
> think they have a choice or it solely depends on the
> director?
>

> How do they make these scenes? Do they use loose rope and
> a minimal gag over mouth? What about tape-gag scenes?
>
> Does anyone have any behind the scenes insights about
> bondage in commercial films?
>

> I think it would be interesting to share your knowledge
> if you know something.



Having worked on a film where there was two incidents of bondage, the actresses were indifferent. They may be uncomfortable, but if it is in the script, it is in the script. They may see some slight kinkiness to it, but view it more as drama then a scene where a strong minority of people (i.e. those os us reading this right now) might get off on it.

As for the rope and the gags, I just wanted to make them look like they were on there good. Most of the time, the actress spend hours tied up, and you can't truss her up too tight.

DPS
dampressoc@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/dampressoc/index.html
Sunday February 15 13:51:31 2004
Re: rich
Ditto my appreciation for this addition to groups - I was too stupid to save them to my hard drive at the time, just figuring the caps would always be available anytime I wanted. And kudos for what I know must have been a laborious prospect uploading all the caps - I KNOW the routine.
And can't forget Steve for the original work - Right on ! rest up an go for a comeback!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld2/

Major John
Sunday February 15 14:09:15 2004
Mainstream gagging materials
> Somebody illegally entered his apartment to try to find something on him but didn't see anything that looked suspicious, nothing beyond a toolbox, some styrofoam, and... some duct tape. Looks like he's a good solid all-American boy... I'd rather see handcuffs actually, but if duct tape is the best we can do...
----
I think someone had previously noted on this Discussion Page that since many companies have adopted a "Business casual" dress policy, nowadays a white hankie could almost be considered a red-flag to nosy reporter types.
Kinky-napper
Sunday February 15 14:28:33 2004
Lexx: episode "Woz"
This series has been around for a while but for some reason nobody has noticed this episode.I've only seen caps of it but it does have multiple scenes of Xenia strapped to a table.It's on tomorrow at 4 AM EST on SPACE in Canada.
Sunday February 15 16:13:54 2004
Re: JAG
According to spoilers (SPOILER), Mac (Catherine Bell) shoots the evil terrorist stalking her in cold blood. This is meant to set up some sort of moral dilemma for her to wrestle with in future episodes.

So.. Does she karate kick the guy, then get out her gun, and kapow! Or does he catch her, and, after she escapes, she gets the opportunity to ice him? A later episode refers to her working through the hostage/killing episode, so maybe the latter...
ss
Sunday February 15 16:28:27 2004
Re: Without a Trace? & Spun
> Any other instances of unnecessary blindfolds?

It is harder to escape if you can not see what you are doing and can not use your lips or teeth. So, both add to the bondage.


Anna
Sunday February 15 16:34:54 2004
Re: Filmmakers bondage tricks?
> I suppose not all the actresses (esp. hollywood ones) are
> happy with the idea of being tied and gagged - do you

I make vids and picture sets for clients using various models, not especially bondage models, almost all just regard a shoot as a shoot and I am sure it is the same in Hollywood.

>
> How do they make these scenes? Do they use loose rope and
> a minimal gag over mouth? What about tape-gag scenes?

Tape is a problem but a little talc or snap wrap will solve that. Rope that is lose looks lose.

>
> Does anyone have any behind the scenes insights about
> bondage in commercial films?

I am sure it is the same in Hollywood.

This probably should all be on the anything goes page but that page is such a pain with all the silly stuff that I will not go there.
jenni
Sunday February 15 16:40:58 2004
Re: Filmmakers bondage tricks?
jenni wrote:
>
> This probably should all be on the anything goes page

I tend to agree, I'm going to shut it down if we wander
much farther off point.

> that page is such a pain with all the silly stuff that
> I will not go there.

That's the only other choice here.

The Moderator
Sunday February 15 17:19:32 2004
Re: Catherine Oxenberg
The caps are on the bound singers web site !!!

mate
Sunday February 15 17:37:03 2004
Newbe question
The Moderator wrote:

>
> Hey, the anti top-posting software is there because I
> don't
> you posting like that. It's not a challenge to see how
> you can get around it. Trim your quotes, place your
> comments following quoted material or interspersed.

Uh?
What is this? (I looked in FAQ but did not find anything about top-posting)

Bob
Sunday February 15 18:07:14 2004
Re: Jacklyn Lick
well Is Ms. Lick stops by again...
Hi and Welcome Jacklyn!!
I certainly hope you stop by again, this is the BEST Bondage discussion site on the web and we'd love to include an another fine female into our little "family" of regular posters.

For those of you who don't know "Valkyrie" (who posts quite often esp in the VCR alert page) is a very cool seet & classy lady as well.
She is the boss in Yahoo's casual bondage club
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casualbondage
Snowcat
Sunday February 15 18:20:13 2004
New Power Rangers Good News/Bad News
the bad news is the girl got kidnapped in the first episode (nice handgag) and when she awoke she was lying in a chair (like a dentist's chair) unrestrained in ANY way :)

Good news is...
Her power is a Black Canary-ish sonic scream.
NEVER been a better excuse to gag her early and often.

Other good news is...
there is a cute blond cheerleader-snoopy-school-reporter (newsbabe for the high school TV channel actually) and she seems like she's gonna be looking for trouble and hopefully getting into some CONSTANTLY.

...in other news...
I meant to say...
Valkyrie is a cool, SWEET, and classy lady
Sweet not SEET
Tonight the Typo devil...The Typodevils got my soul (apologies to Ms. Etheridge)
;)
Snowcat
Sunday February 15 19:59:02 2004
Re: Unnecessary blindfolds/gags
Anna wrote:

> > Any other instances of unnecessary blindfolds?
>
> It is harder to escape if you can not see what you are
> doing and can not use your lips or teeth. So, both add
> to the bondage.

Never thought about that before, but you're right. I guess in that respect there is no truly "unnecessary" blindfold, or gag. Then again it could be argued that if the person is capable of reaching up to bite the ropes off, but is gagged, then they are also possibly capable of undoing/shifting the gag.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Sunday February 15 20:32:14 2004
Bound and Gagged
If you do a search of Amazon.com under the category of
books;under the category of Bound and Gagged,some of these
titles are in reference to movies,films etc.Has anyone found anything interesting here?There are over 5,000
titles under the subject Bound and Gagged
TSR
Sunday February 15 20:55:27 2004
Re: rich
> Steve's entire archives were saved into two Yahoo groups.
> Some scenes were expanded by the savers with more caps.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld/
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld2/

Many thanks for the info

Wonder how many new members those two groups will get in the next few days :-)
Jacot
Sunday February 15 21:31:17 2004
Bound and Gagged word search on Amazon.com
> If you do a search of Amazon.com under the category of books; under the category of Bound and Gagged, some of these titles are in reference to movies, films etc. Has anyone found anything interesting here? There are over 5,000 titles under the subject Bound and Gagged.
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Sounds like more effort would be expended than is necessary.

If it's about movies or TV-series compilations on DVD, information has already been posted here in the "Scene Database" or "Movie Alerts" section.

"Best Mainstream Books" (e.g., "Dirty Harry 3: The Long Death" by Dane Hartman) is a topic that's been previously discussed on this page as well. Those interested can simply utilize the Brian's Page "Search" capability on keywords such as "books" and "book". And if it's about "non-mainstream" books, well, then that's off-topic for the Discussion Page.


Kinky-napper
Sunday February 15 22:02:53 2004
Quick scene on tonight's Sue Thomas F.B. Eye
A quick scene popped on PAX's 'Sue Thomas F.B. Eye tonight - a cute blonde college student tied up in a hotel, gagged with duct tape, and stashed in an open closet. Scene happens approx. 45-50 minutes in. When I get the actress name, I'll add it to the database.
Bamahunt
Sunday February 15 22:19:10 2004
Re: Quick scene on tonight's Sue Thomas F.B. Eye
Scene has been added. Actress is Marnie Lynne Reeds.
Bamahunt
Sunday February 15 22:21:55 2004
Re: Newbe question
Bob wrote:

> What is this? (I looked in FAQ but did not find anything
> about top-posting)

What do you need to know about it?

The Moderator

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