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Saturday December 20 00:49:55 2003
20/20
Thursday night, ABC's 20/20 had an unexpected treat - a feature story of an attractive 30-something blonde who was drugged and abducted by her ex-husband. Unfortunately, no pictures or re-enactment, just her own detailed description of her experience. She described waking up and finding herself bound & gagged in the back of a van. She stayed that way for a 1000 mile trip. Then she was carried into his cabin, and was handcuffed hand & foot to a bed. Eventually the guy released her. Later in the interview she said that she had been raped during her captivity.
Mike D
Saturday December 20 03:07:45 2003
Stephen King
I read recently a short message here abount a Stephen King book in which a mature lady gets B&G. Cant find the message looking back - can you help me with the book title again.
Ukman
Saturday December 20 03:48:56 2003
Smallville
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this before, but on kryptonsite I found a spoiler for episode "Hereafter" in which they say Lana and another girl named Megan will be tied. Episode will be airing on february the 4th 2004.
I'm posting the URL below.

Dean1
dean1
http://www.kryptonsite.com
Saturday December 20 06:53:47 2003
Stephen King book
> I read recently a short message here about a Stephen King book in which a mature lady gets B&G. Cant find the message looking back - can you help me with the book title again.
> >
Perhaps it was "Gerald's Game"?
Saturday December 20 07:52:14 2003
Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover
> Another medical tape seen in some DiD scenes is Durapore
> tape from 3M which has a shiney white silk cloth base through wuch it is possible to see lipstick.

Lipstick = no seal = no gag.


Phimophilus
Saturday December 20 08:04:25 2003
Gwyneth Paltrow
Saw an interview with Jude Law in which he said that filming for 'World of Tomorrow' finished up yesterday.
Maybe we'll start to see a few clips, or promotional stills soon.
Major John
Saturday December 20 08:29:17 2003
Re: Stephen King book
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > I read recently a short message here about a Stephen
> King book in which a mature lady gets B&G. Cant find
> the message looking back - can you help me with the book
> title again.
> > >
> Perhaps it was "Gerald's Game"?
>

I don't think that "Gerald's Game" is the novel in question. While it is true that its plot concerns a woman in bondage, she is handcuffed to a bed but not gagged, at least not in the early chapters of the book. Has anyone read this book in its entirety? Does someone else come along and discover her handcuffed to a bed and then proceed to gag her?
Hadji
Saturday December 20 10:14:20 2003
This week's update
This week: Melanie Griffith in Cecil B. Demented, Starr Andreeff in General Hospital, Charlotte Lopez in Jawbreaker, Elyssa Davalos in Knight Rider "Blind Spot," Pamela Hensley in Kojak "Death Is Not A Passing Grade," 3 unknowns in Primal Instinct, Qui Shu in The Transporter, and Kari Wurher in The Undertaker's Wedding.

No update next weekend, as I'll be on vacation. Happy holidays!
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/1220.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Saturday December 20 10:38:16 2003
Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas
Jazz411 wrote:

> Legend of the Wolf wrote:
>
> > > Yeah, but did any of you consider AMERICA'S
> FUNNIEST HOME
> > > VIDEOS? Its a mainstream show of the people and
> by the
> > > people.
> >
> > Again, it probably wouldn't work. Although
> occasionally
> > staged clips do get shown, the show's producers are
>
> > pretty good at spotting "accidents" that
> are
> > set up to look natural.
>
> They occasionally show home-made comedy sketches that
> last a minute or more. One featured, sadly, a putz.
> Another featured two putzes in a pillory after they tried
> to harass a "jackalope". Maybe someone has seen
> one that actually does feature a DiD? I rarely even see the show anymore.

Home-made comedy sketches are what I mean. Like a video set to the song, "Along Came Jones" where a couple of dogs play the villian and the hero while you wife, girlfriend, whomever plays the tied-up heroine. It sounds stupid but thats the type of stuff they play on that show. And as long as a female is tied-up and gagged, who cares how stupid something is.
How about a "Supermom" sketch, where a regular house-wife changes into a spandex suit and fights evil Vacume cleaner salesmen.
Or a fake commercial for the BONDAGE DIET. We see a slim woman and a before picture when she was fat. How did she do it? The bondage diet! We see her demonstrate trying to eat while bound and gagged. Hopping around, trying to open the refridgerator with her hands tied behind her, her ankles tied together, and tape on her mouth.
Feel free to use the ideas or hopefully they'll inspire you to come up with some of your own.
benny
benfartsfire@yahoo.com
Saturday December 20 10:47:34 2003
ali and jack
anyone post this clip?
leigh
Saturday December 20 11:13:55 2003
VCR Alerts - 2004
I made the change to entry form to allow entering alerts for next year. It seemed to work ok.

Be careful, inevitably we get some alerts for December of 2004 posted around this time.

The Engineer
Saturday December 20 11:17:54 2003
Update...and thanks to the Fuzz !
Major John's makes it's 'final' appearance on FuzzWeb before moving to BindHer.com in the new year.
It's been a great run, and great things to come...thanks lads - especially Fuzz.
Note: I put 'final' in quotes - I think you may expect some
surprise 'guest' appearances on FuzzWeb in the
future, and a lot of content from my previous
endeavors posted for your entertainment as well.
Seems a lot of the guys just tuned in and missed a
lot of the previous material - we'll work on it.

As always - enjoy !
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.fuzzweb.org
Saturday December 20 12:55:15 2003
Re: Gwyneth Paltrow
Major John wrote:

> Saw an interview with Jude Law in which he said that
> filming for 'World of Tomorrow' finished up yesterday.
> Maybe we'll start to see a few clips, or promotional
> stills soon.

Actually, there's a trailer up at the website: http://www.skycaptain.com/home.html

No hint of anything of interest to this page, but it's early days.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Saturday December 20 13:15:11 2003
Re: Elastoplast:
Tan version
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/features/blackpanther05.jpg
Saturday December 20 14:20:54 2003
Re: Stephen King book
> I don't think that "Gerald's Game" is the novel
> in question. While it is true that its plot concerns a
> woman in bondage, she is handcuffed to a bed but not
> gagged, at least not in the early chapters of the book.
> Has anyone read this book in its entirety? Does someone
> else come along and discover her handcuffed to a bed and
> then proceed to gag her?

She's never gagged in the book. Her husband handcuffed her to the bed for kinky sex, but had a heart attack and died. She's left there topless and cuffed, each hand separately for about 3 days. From there, the book is mostly flashbacks of what she's thinking about, a long description of her struggling to get a drink of water, and a scare where she thinks she sees a man in the room in the middle of the night but is never sure. I seem to remember she frees herself somehow. I don't think anyone else found her. Except maybe the night stranger(?)

Incidentally, King has said that he considers this to be his most un-filmable book, because the scene rarely changes from the lady cuffed to the bed. What does he know?

Tom
frink49@bellsouth.net
Saturday December 20 14:26:23 2003
Re: Stephen King book
Tom wrote:

> Incidentally, King has said that he considers this to be
> his most un-filmable book, because the scene rarely
> changes from the lady cuffed to the bed. What does he know?

That would be the easiest to film and the best to watch. Harley Jane Kozak would be good.
Malasfan
Saturday December 20 14:40:47 2003
Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover
Phimophilus wrote:

> > Another medical tape seen in some DiD scenes is
> Durapore
> > tape from 3M which has a shiney white silk cloth
> base through wuch it is possible to see lipstick.
>
> Lipstick = no seal = no gag.

Doesn't work like that. First most modern lipsticks are not greasy so things stick to them just fine. Second, being able to see the lipstick through the tape has nothing to do with how well the tape sticks, girls in DiD scenes wear lipstick under duct tape gags too it's just you cant see it. Finally if you placed tape over just the colored area of the lips (as in some weak gag scenes) then that is "no gag at all" it is the complete covering of the mouth sealing it closed around packing that makes a tapegag work. The TV favorite of a single strip of duct tape over the lips is actually less effective than a OTM detective gag.

Tom Quin
Saturday December 20 15:19:56 2003
Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover
Tom Quin wrote:
Phimophilus wrote:

Another medical tape seen in some DiD scenes is
Durapore
tape from 3M which has a shiney white silk
cloth
base through wuch it is possible to see lipstick Lipstick = no seal = no gag.

Doesn't work like that. First most modern lipsticks are
not greasy so things stick to them just fine. Second,
being able to see the lipstick through the tape has
nothing to do with how well the tape sticks, girls in DiD
scenes wear lipstick under duct tape gags too it's just
you cant see it. Finally if you placed tape over just the
colored area of the lips (as in some weak gag scenes)
then that is "no gag at all" it is the complete
covering of the mouth sealing it closed around packing
that makes a tapegag work. The TV favorite of a single
strip of duct tape over the lips is actually less effective than a OTM detective gag.

THIS is a guy who KNOWS what he's talking about - I ALWAYS defer to experience! - feel free to compare notes on the email address.


Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
www.fuzzweb.org
Saturday December 20 15:34:30 2003
Great Update
Hey Raffish, very nice update! In particular, the Undertaker's Wedding file rocked. I have always wanted to see this scene, as Kari is just completely hot.

This particular scene also made me realize what a lucky bastard this Adrian Brody is. That's two scenes now (that I know of), in which Mr. Brody has gotten to handle B&G'd cuties. Who needs an Oscar anyway? The tied up hotties are far more rewarding. Quite a life that boy is having. :)
Tim Smith
verywavy@yahoo.com
Saturday December 20 17:44:25 2003
Re: Stephen King book
Tom wrote:

> I seem to
> remember she frees herself somehow. I don't think anyone
> else found her. Except maybe the night stranger(?)

She frees herself eventually, but not without seriously injuring her hands. Her blood actually serves as a lubricant. There's a detailed and rather gruesome description of her escape.

The cuffs are police cuffs, that (according to the book, I do not know if it is true) exists as M (male) and F(female) models.
When hubby bought them the F model was sold out so he bought the M model that can't be closed enough to make escape impossible for her.

As for visitors, there were only the weirdo in the night who just stayed for a while and looked at her, then left, and a dog. The dog only chewed on hubby's corpse.

A rather disturbing novel IMO, but with long and detailed descriptions of various failed escape attempts.
Per
Saturday December 20 18:28:31 2003
Re: Women B&Ged by other women?
Paco The Bandit wrote:

> I can't believe no one has mentioned the scene in the
> Melrose Place series finale. The damsel is knocked out,
> bound and gagged and stripped down to her nice little
> white bra and panties. Good scene til the putz well,
> putzes it all up.

Melrose Place also delivered the unforgettable Laura Leighton scene from the 1994-95 season in which Ms. Leighton (Sidney) is tied up and gagged with a scarf by Marcia Cross (Kimberly). Marcia also participated in a scene in which a nurse got tied up and gagged on the old soap The Edge Of Night.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday December 20 18:49:11 2003
Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas
> Several movies very close to this have been made, though
> the villain is always a murderer or serial killer, and
> the movies are always waaay short on bondage imagery.
>
>
> The Unspeakable has Athena Massey as a cop on the trail
> of serial killer who ties up his victims and plays
> bondage games with them before killing them. The scenario
> is complicated because Massey herself is involved in a
> bondage and dominance relationship with her cop partner.
> Once again, very little in the way of bondage imagery
> here, given the nature of the plot.

I think Pat and kinky-napper raise valid points here. It seems to me that if you want to make a mainstream movie with a some tie up scenes in it, why would you want to run the risk of having the movie branded a non-mainstream adult movie by bring in themes or referneces to the fetish or bondage industry. In all likelihood, those storylines will push all the wrong buttons. In addition, as kinky-napper has pointed out, the adult sex scene has not drawn a whole lot of mainstream film interest. IMO, any type of sexual theme in a bondage-laden movie will run the risk of being labeled an adult movie. About the only really successful movie with a hot bondage scene that also explored a sexual aspect was the movie Bound, but even Bound had nonsexual aspects involving a mobster and, IIRC, the sexual relationship between the females did not involve bondage or kink. I think you can make a mainstream movie with a few bondage scenes in it, but I think that you would need to stick with very maintream type of themes and storylines i.e. crime drama, spy thriller etc.



mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday December 20 19:29:05 2003
Woman-on-woman B & G
Let's see, where do I start? Well, there's that rather obscure one I saw the other day-"Condemned Women" from 1938 on TCM, although technically it was a gagged-but-not-bound scene in that the bondage was only implied.

And now that I think of it, the women-in-prison genre seems to spawn scenes like this. There's Hope Emerson towel-gagging but not binding Eleanor Parker (although I think she WAS physically restrained by others) in "Caged" (1950), an unfortunate warder getting the treatment from her charges in "So Evil, So Young" (1960), Victoria Tennant being similarly treated by the actress who played Moira-does anyone remember who she was?-before she and Natasha Richardson headed for the hills in "The Handmaid's Tale" (1991), and Dorothy Gordon getting it in a largely implied scene-and then getting her revenge a few minutes later as she taunts one of her captors while tying her for a whipping-in "House of Whipcord" (1974).

My favorite "girl on girl" scene, however, isn't anything so sinister. It's from a comedy, to wit 1999's "The Sex Monster." Mariel Hemingway, at the suggestion of her husband's character, dabbles in bisexuality (don't worry, this is strictly mainstream-she never goes even as far as Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tilly did in "Bound") and discovers she likes it. Her eyes having thus been opened, she also eventually plays around with bondage, at the request of Joanna Heimbold. After spreadeagling her on a bed with neckties, Hemingway utters one of my favorite bondager-to-bondagee lines of all time: "There you go-tied up and gagged. What's next?"
An Old Friend
Saturday December 20 21:56:13 2003
FUZZWEB
Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring Jake 2.0's latest, Osbournes Christmas Special & 77 Sunset Strip (episode Vacation With Pay). Also Major John's "last" & new to the site Mr Stitch's Lab (photo manipulations). Enjoy. List updates as well as some new link/preview pages coming soon...
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.org
Saturday December 20 22:14:40 2003
Re: Stephen King book
> Perhaps it was "Gerald's Game"?
>

Great book - no gag - just handcuffed, spreadeagled to the bed for the whole book
Saturday December 20 22:28:08 2003
Re: Stephen King book
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > I read recently a short message here about a Stephen
> King book in which a mature lady gets B&G. Cant find
> the message looking back - can you help me with the book
> title again.
> > >
> Perhaps it was "Gerald's Game"?
>

I believe the book in question you're thinking of is a book by Peter Straub called The Hellfire Club. There's two instances in the novel where the heroine, a mature lady as you described, get's bound and gagged by the bad guy. Peter Straub has written several horror novels, like King. Also, both of them have collaborated together on two books. I've read every Stephen King book and there is no scene that even comes close to what you described. Maybe this is the book you're looking for?
Cohen
Saturday December 20 22:49:06 2003
Re: Stephen King book
> I believe the book in question you're thinking of is a
> book by Peter Straub called The Hellfire Club. There's
> two instances in the novel where the heroine, a mature
> lady as you described, get's bound and gagged by the bad
> guy.

Let me correct myself. I believe she is gagged only in the first incident. It's been several years since I've read the novel. Cheers.
Saturday December 20 22:50:18 2003
Re: Stephen King book
I'm batting a thousand tonight. Left my signature off the last post. Apologies.
Cohen
Saturday December 20 22:51:01 2003
Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover
Major John wrote:

> Tom Quin wrote:
> Phimophilus wrote:
>
> Another medical tape seen in some DiD scenes is
> Durapore
> tape from 3M >
> Doesn't work like that.
> The TV favorite of a single
> strip of duct tape over the lips is actually less
> effective than a OTM detective gag.
>
> THIS is a guy who KNOWS what he's talking about - I
> ALWAYS defer to experience! - feel free to compare notes
> on the email address.

Well you know that there always has to be at least one contrary bastard hanging around who doesn't agree with the rest of the experienced. I guess that is why we have all those 9 out of 10 experts agree things, heh!

And I would be the one not agreeing about the medical tape in my experience with it. Elastoplast brand is the one that I've used personally. I bought one roll and I will never buy it again.

First, I bought mine probably a dozen years or more ago, in the early stages of my career.. possibly the quality may have changed since then. But the reason I bought it at that time was to do tape gags without damn near ripping the models lips off at the end of scene. As stated, this is medical tape that is supposed to be sticky, but not stick to the wounds where you are going to pull things loose when you change it.

The only place I could find it then (pre-internet) was a medical supply shop. And I paid over $7 back then for a small roll. So it was pricey and not that easy to find.

But the main thing I did not like about it was that for me, the edges, ends mostly, did not stick well enough to the girls face to suit me. By the time you had handled it while cutting it and putting it on, and I always thought, apllied it to a smooth and heavily powdered surface- the girls cheek with models makeup on it- I usually had ends coming loose and starting to curl before I was done with my scene. And as we all know, that does not look good.

I could get duct tape in a ton of colors, get about a 10 year supply of it for a third the cost of the elastoplast, and by putting the cut strips against my jeans a time or two, remove enough adhesive to keep removal from killing the model while still sticking much better than the elastoplast.

So duct tape was cheaper, easier to find, came in more colors and worked better. Pretty much a no brainer there. I finally threw the elastoplast away rather than use it.

Lots of guys here seem to like it, but my experience was very different. Your milage may vary.


David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com

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