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| Wednesday December 10 00:04:52 2003 Re: 24 update |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Can anyone describe the scene in detail? Were her feet > tied? What was she wearing? Were her arms taped to the > arms of the chair? Ant gag-talk? Jackpot on most of the above. After the handgag, he sits her in the chair and tapes her feet very tight on screen. Her hands are securely tied to the sides of the chair but not shown until later. He then gags her onscreen, perfectly placing the tape on the mouth. She's wearing a business outfit with a dark jacket over a low-cut white shirt. She starts "mmmpppffing" and doesn't stop until the end of the scene. At one point, a fellow worker calls Kim's number and she attempts to get to the phone. Furious mmmppffing as she gets the receiver off the phone with her hand but the line is dead at that point. Later, she's rescued. In the first scene, Kim's tape-gag starts to wrinkle and slip as she struggles. By the time the next scene starts, it's been perfectly repositioned over the mouth. Great job, finally, by a bad guy. Despite the soundproof room, he still gags her to halt her questions and comments. Nice job all around on this one. |
| Wednesday December 10 00:15:50 2003 Re: another page |
| > Brian's system
> could fairly easily handle another page. It's not the page, it's the moderation. Without that, you'll quickly have another Anything Goes. And since Brian's not interested in that sort of general discussion, he's certainly not going to do the work of moderating it or hosting it. |
| Jeb |
| Wednesday December 10 00:17:03 2003 Re: 24 update |
| > I guess its gonna be asked sooner or later...
Solo cap at the bottom of the page. (Click link now.) |
| G-MaN |
| http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/200304Season.html |
| Wednesday December 10 00:31:05 2003 Re: another page |
| Jenni wrote:
> It would be sad to need to set up a different system to > handle this, if, and this is a big if, Brian's system > could fairly easily handle another page. There. Are. No. Plans. For. This. |
| Brian R |
| Wednesday December 10 00:37:10 2003 Re: another page |
| Jenni wrote:
> It would be sad to need to set up a different system to > handle this, if, and this is a big if, Brian's system > could fairly easily handle another page. I think the place you're most likely looking for is Lorelei's discussion page. It's at http://www.bedroombondage.com/bondage/guestbook/ Hopefully this'll be close to what you're looking for. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Wednesday December 10 01:32:03 2003 Re: 24 update |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Can anyone describe the scene in detail? Were her > feet > > tied? What was she wearing? Were her arms taped to > the > > arms of the chair? Ant gag-talk? > Any caps of her feet being taped? Was she wearing hose?? sry I missed this! |
| Bigtim0914 |
| Wednesday December 10 01:55:25 2003 24 |
| Does anyone know if there will be an encore of the Tuesday night 24? |
| Wednesday December 10 02:01:03 2003 24 |
| Never fear, I'm all over the caps/clips. Not 'til tomorrow, though. |
| Raffish |
| Wednesday December 10 04:42:43 2003 Re: 24 |
| Raffish wrote:
> Never fear, I'm all over the caps/clips. Not 'til > tomorrow, though. Fortunately for the impatient (me), I have a connection and was able to see the clip last night. This came in handy because my cable was out ALL day and I couldn't even tape the show myself. I know there are some who will say "Oh great, another silver duct tape scene". To some extent, I agree. I wish we could get some variety once in awhile. I actually much prefer white, then black. Then there is the issue of Elisha's hair this season, which someone brought up earlier. I wholeheartedly agree on that point. I don't think she looks nearly as cute this season, compared to last. What the hell is with the makeup artists on that show anyway? As for the positives, it is still Elisha and even an Elisha with a bad haircut is still a cutie. The vocal protests are, in my opinion, the highlight of this episode. We are treated to some VERY nice mmphing, as well as some good struggling by Elisha to reach a ringing phone. Thank you for the opportunity to speak, as always. Love this site and even though I am not as visible a participant as I once was, rest assured I am lurking in the shadows. Thanks for the alert(s) boys. Much appreciated!! |
| Tim Smith |
| Wednesday December 10 07:49:44 2003 Re: 24 |
| Tim Smith wrote:
> We are treated to some VERY nice mmphing So much, in fact, that while enjoying it I couldn't help thinking they really knew what they were doing this time, i.e. that it was a treat they created especially for us. |
| Wednesday December 10 07:53:40 2003 Re: another page |
| > It's not the page, it's the moderation. Without that,
> you'll quickly have another Anything Goes. And since > Brian's not interested in that sort of general > discussion, he's certainly not going to do the work of > moderating it or hosting it. This was discussed at length a year or two ago. Brian did not want to moderate, feeling one page is enough. He considered sub-moderators to handle the page, but didn't implement. Being a sub-moderator would require a strong commitment from one or more readers of this page, and given that he can't even get visitors to this page to do even the relatively paltry labor involved in writing a review for his ezine, I can't blame Brian for being more than a wee bit cynical about the prospects of getting good moderators to help. |
| Pat Powers |
| Wednesday December 10 08:35:36 2003 Re: Land of the Living |
| Ignatius J. Reilly wrote:
> I have just finished reading a very fine novel > ["LAND OF THE LIVING"] by a very articulate authoress > named Nicci French. Good story indeed (especially the long DiDscene of the prologue) As for the "authoress Nicci French", let me say it's a syndicate consisting of Nicci Gerrard and Sean French. |
| Filou |
| Wednesday December 10 08:47:08 2003 Re: Adventures in Paradise |
| That was a truly great scene, very realistic and entirely plausible !!!!
Must be 35-40 years since I last caught it. Maybe 'Adventures In Paradise' will surface on one of the nostalgia based cable networks. |
| Jacot |
| Wednesday December 10 09:19:57 2003 Re: 24 update |
| > Best 15 minutes on network TV this year. This never gets
> old with Elisha. Great mmmmpppfing and a different shade > of duct tape this year. It appeared to be the gaffer's > tape. Well-sealed. Awesome. I pretty much agree with you on this one. She did some of the best "gag noises" I've heard on a mainstream TV scene. I posted a quick clip if anyone is interested. I also have the first part of the GENERAL HOSPITAL scene and I'll re-edit it to be the whole sequence later in the week, |
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| Bindher |
| bindher@bindher.com |
| http://www.bindher.com |
| Wednesday December 10 09:22:24 2003 Re: Adventures in Paradise |
| How was the damsel gagged? |
| Phimophilus |
| Wednesday December 10 09:53:07 2003 Re: another page |
| > Jenni wrote:
> > > It would be sad to need to set up a different system > to handle this, if, and this is a big if, Brian's > system could fairly easily handle another page. > > There. Are. No. Plans. For. This. What you can do is simply have the discussion at the 'Favorite Scenes' page which gets an entry about every 6 months or so. |
| Wednesday December 10 09:56:56 2003 CSI Miami |
| According to the link, the next episode should be interesting. |
| Canuck |
| http://talk.csifiles.com/showflat.php?Board=csiNewsItems&Number=6425 |
| Wednesday December 10 10:05:31 2003 Re: another page |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> Jenni wrote: > > > It would be sad to need to set up a different system > to > > handle this, if, and this is a big if, Brian's > system > > could fairly easily handle another page. > > I think the place you're most likely looking for is > Lorelei's discussion page. It's at > http://www.bedroombondage.com/bondage/guestbook/ I agree that Lorelei's discussion is the kind of page you are looking for. Jenni, you should check it out and post about one of your experiences there. The address is in the post above. |
| Another Dave |
| Wednesday December 10 10:59:58 2003 Re: CSI Miami |
| Canuck wrote:
> According to the link, the next episode should be > interesting. "The Handler" also has a decent premise on Friday. Two agents, one guy and one female (Anna Belknap?) get abducted and are held hostage in the woods. One clip appeared to show the female holding her hands in front, possibly tied. With "10-8" and "24" busting up a dry spell in primetime the last week, hopefully other shows will follow suit. |
| Wednesday December 10 11:12:37 2003 Re: 24 |
| I assume they made Elisha more plain-looking to enhance her credibility as an agent. |
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| Wednesday December 10 11:19:46 2003 Re: CSI Miami |
| Canuck wrote:
> According to the link, the next episode should be > interesting. I can't get the trailer to work. What's in it? |
| Ed |
| Wednesday December 10 11:28:54 2003 Re: 24 |
| > I assume they made Elisha more plain-looking to enhance
> her credibility as an agent. Lots of caps from previous '24' episodes at the link |
| Canuck |
| http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/_Preview/index.html.html |
| Wednesday December 10 11:41:14 2003 Re: CSI Miami |
| Canuck wrote:
> According to the link, the next episode should be > interesting. Who plays Nikki Wilcox and what does she look like? anyone know? |
| doug |
| doug5759@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday December 10 13:10:07 2003 Van's Fiction is Updated! |
| I usually do my updates on Friday, but why sit on something for the sake of an arbitrary schedule? :-) Chapter 4 of "Chattel Mountain Lodge: Personnel Problem" is posted.
Also... cinescape.com reports that KATIE HOLMES is on the short list to play Bruce Wayne's love interest in the next BATMAN movie. (They're going back to the beginning, so her age is appropriate.) Dare we hope? "We have your girlfriend, Wayne. Here, I'll put her on." "M'MMPFH!!!" :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Wednesday December 10 13:38:47 2003 What Type of Gag to Use? |
| When watching DiD scenes, I have always wondered why certain types of gags were used in a particular scene or on a particular actress. Why do some get cleave-gagged while others get tape-gagged? Also, does a particular gag look better on an actress (cleave, tape, OTM)?
It is my view that actresses with high cheek bones (i.e. Sandra Bullock) look best sporting a tight cleave-gag while actresses with full lips (i.e. Renee Zellweger) would look great with a tape-gag. Of course, some look great gagged in any manner. How does everyone else feel about this and what gags would be the most appropriate on your favorite DiD actress/celebrity? Just curious. |
| Del |
| Wednesday December 10 13:54:53 2003 "24" clips and caps |
| Now available on the DiDheap!
(If some of the caps seem a bit grainy etc., remember that the scene was somewhat dark.) |
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| Raffish |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/heap/ |
| Wednesday December 10 13:55:09 2003 Re: 24 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I assume they made Elisha more plain-looking to enhance > her credibility as an agent. Well, then she needs to be fired as an agent and hired as a cruise director or something. :) |
| Tim Smith |
| Wednesday December 10 13:58:07 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| Del wrote:
It is my view that actresses with high cheek bones (i.e. Sandra Bullock) look best sporting a tight cleave-gag while actresses with full lips (i.e. Renee Zellweger) would look great with a tape-gag. Of course, some look great gagged in any manner. How does everyone else feel about this and what gags would be the most appropriate on your favorite DiD actress/celebrity? Just curious. Your theory is a good one - for example check out the lady on Major John's - high cheek bones and probably the tightest cleave I've seen in a long time - fantastic As for other actresses - my favorite has to be Honor Blackman in the Avengers, although a serious lack of 'MMPHING' |
| Rope artist |
| Wednesday December 10 14:13:31 2003 Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| Re: @Noon & 6:30pm BravoC (Possible?)
Great Detective, ep: "Eye of Clarkie Blackburn" Air-sched has a kidnapping metioned: _________ Just reviewed. This is the episode with the scene. Consider 6:30pm a definite alert. |
| Jay |
| Wednesday December 10 14:26:50 2003 Re: Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| > Re: @Noon & 6:30pm BravoC (Possible?)
> Great Detective, Forgot to mention, will work on getting this cleave scene to cappers for any others interested. |
| Jay |
| Wednesday December 10 14:56:50 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| > How does everyone else feel
> about this and what gags would be the most appropriate on > > your favorite DiD actress/celebrity? Well, for me, I'd have to say that a knotted cleave will always be my fave, regardless of damsel: I always prefer to see the lips, personally. |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound |
| Wednesday December 10 15:12:25 2003 Re: Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| Jay wrote:
> Re: @Noon & 6:30pm BravoC (Possible?) > Great Detective, ep: "Eye of Clarkie > Blackburn" > Air-sched has a kidnapping metioned: > _________ > > Just reviewed. > This is the episode with the scene. > > Consider 6:30pm a definite alert. _____________________________________ Thanks for the confirmation, good buddy. I was starting to think that scene would never air. |
| Canuck |
| Wednesday December 10 15:33:20 2003 Re: 24 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I assume they made Elisha more plain-looking to enhance > her credibility as an agent. I tend to think she looks more like she does on the show than in this photo. Does the word "airbrush" come to anyone else's mind? |
| doug |
| doug5759@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday December 10 15:41:23 2003 Re: 24 |
| > I tend to think she looks more like she does on the show
> than in this photo. Does the word "airbrush" > come to anyone else's mind? In the first season, she looked way better in her second B&G scene than in her first one. I recall when watching Deadly Lessons that Ally Sheedy looked great for her B&G scene. In previous scenes, her hair and clothing combinations made her look plain. |
| Wednesday December 10 16:08:32 2003 Re: Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| Jay wrote:
Forgot to mention, will work on getting this cleave scene to cappers for any others interested. Actually at home for a change - I'll capture this direct to MPEG-2 if anyone is interested |
| Major John |
| Wednesday December 10 16:16:29 2003 Re: 24 update |
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> > > Any caps of her feet being taped? Was she wearing hose?? > sry I missed this! > Yeah, from the caps posted, I couldn't see her feet, just her legs. I'm curious what kind of shoes she was wearing, if she was wearing hose, etc. Thanks. |
| Hammy |
| Wednesday December 10 18:57:35 2003 Update |
| This week's update (after a long delay):
Sarah Michelle Gellar - Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "Enemies" |
| Gratefuldead1212 |
| boundandgagged2003@hotmail.com |
| http://www.geocities.com/gratefuldead1212 |
| Wednesday December 10 19:09:09 2003 Re: another page |
| Brian R wrote:
> There. Are. No. Plans. For. This. Did you take acting lessons from William Shatner? |
| Wednesday December 10 19:52:30 2003 Re: 24 |
| > > I assume they made Elisha more plain-looking to
> enhance > > her credibility as an agent. > I tend to think she looks more like she does on the show > than in this photo. Does the word "airbrush" > come to anyone else's mind? I dunno 'bout that, but I'm still wondering if there will be an encore presentation, or if the episode will air again on FX (I think JP or someone mentioned that it might air on FX). I sure hope so!!! Caps look great & I forgot to tape! :-( |
| Wednesday December 10 20:40:30 2003 24 |
| Does anyone know what season was last nights episode? I was at Best Buy and saw the dvd pack for 24, but was not sure which season to buy. Help me please. |
| Gbabyman |
| Wednesday December 10 20:43:30 2003 Re: "24" clips and caps |
| At least four different gags in that sequence. Someone had fun! :-) |
| Phimophilus |
| Wednesday December 10 20:46:24 2003 Re: another page |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> What you can do is simply have the discussion at the > 'Favorite Scenes' page which gets an entry about every 6 > months or so. I don't know *where* you got that idea, but it's not true. I moderate that page like every other one except AG. Any off-topic posts would be deleted. This isn't usenet, you can't just take over seldom used forums. |
| The Moderator |
| Wednesday December 10 20:47:01 2003 24 vs PC Media |
|
This post was moved to Anything Goes. Poster: (unsigned poster) Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Wednesday December 10 21:06:42 2003 Re: another page |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Brian R wrote: > > > There. Are. No. Plans. For. This. > > Did you take acting lessons from William Shatner? > That would be closer to "There ... are-no ... PLANS ... for-this." |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Wednesday December 10 21:48:49 2003 Re: Retaping Elisha |
| Phimophilus wrote:
> At least four different gags in that sequence. Someone > had fun! :-) I would guess just 3 gags, the original by the bad guy, a 2nd for the telephone scene and a 3rd for the rescue scene. Maybe even just 2, if they filmed the rescue scene right after she wheels herself to the desk. I'm guessing the scene where the gag is slipping and wrinkled near the nose after the first scene is from the first taping by the bad guy, just a long scene where Elisha loosens the tape herself. I don't think the prop guys would do that sloppy a job on an initial taping (then again, if I was tape-gaging Elisha Cuthbert, my hands would be shaking, too). |
| Wednesday December 10 22:01:59 2003 Re: 24 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I'm still wondering if there will > be an encore presentation, or if the episode will air > again on FX Unfortunately, FX is not airing "24" repeats this season. |
| CM |
| Wednesday December 10 22:06:18 2003 Re: 24 |
| Gbabyman wrote:
> Does anyone know what season was last nights episode? I > was at Best Buy and saw the dvd pack for 24, but was not > sure which season to buy. Help me please. Last night's episode was brand new in the third season. Season 3 likely won't turn up on DVD until August or September 2004 to coincide with the debut of season 4 (if there is one) on FOX. |
| CM |
| Wednesday December 10 22:12:40 2003 Re: 24 |
| Anon22, thank you for the alert for this scene. It was the first time that I have benefitted from a "west coast alert" since I have moved to California. I greatly appreciate it, and I'm sure that the others on the west coast do too. It is a great scene! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday December 10 22:21:07 2003 Re: Retaping Elisha |
| >
> I would guess just 3 gags, the original by the bad guy, a > 2nd for the telephone scene and a 3rd for the rescue > scene. Maybe even just 2 One smooth, level, overlapping onto the nose. One sloping, creased horizontally at top. Two a millimetre or two below the nose, with different and distinct wrinkle patterns. There may even be a fifth, like the previous two but very smooth. I think we're seeing different takes as well as different scenes. I'd really hate that job. :-))) |
| Phimophilus |
| Wednesday December 10 22:49:13 2003 "24" feet question |
| In the caps I have seen, Elisha has her feet taped. It looks like she's wearing a business suit. Is she wearing pantyhose? Can you see them in another scene? Please help me!!!! |
| Pantyhose Lover |
| Wednesday December 10 22:58:33 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| Del wrote:
> When watching DiD scenes, I have always wondered why > certain types of gags were used in a particular scene or > on a particular actress. Why do some get cleave-gagged > while others get tape-gagged? Also, does a particular > gag look better on an actress (cleave, tape, OTM)? > >As someone knowledgeable on one part of this, and very knowledgeable on another part of the question, may I take a shot and offer some perspective. When I was younger.. a lot younger.. long before I started writing and filming my own damsel in distress films, I collected television scripts. Mostly to learn how to write them myself (to anyone who has never seen an actual script, there is a very definite format that is required. Its a bitch to get anything you write read under the best of circumstances. Use the wrong format and its impossible). As you might imagine, I really tried to find scripts to buy and read that contained bondage scenes that I had seen on tv. And I found quite a few. And to any of you who are interested, there are a lot of companies that sell used scripts, so you can ask for episodes you are looking for by name. And the one thing that really surprised me is, as usual, the writer in Hollywood gets no respect. He describes a scene, and then the director does whatever the hell he wants in it. If that happens to be the same thing the writer wrote, great.. but to take a couple of pretty decent scenes that are pretty well known here, especially among the older viewers... The Incredible Hulk tv series: "The Waterfront Story". The writer of the script specifically states that the character is gagged with a cloth tied in her mouth.. a cleave gag. Sheila Larken, the actress, gets gagged with black tape. In the very well known Starsky and Hutch episode.. "The Psychic" is the title if memory serves.. Dianne Kay in the script is to be gagged with tape. In the finished episode she is gagged with cloth.. cleave to triangular detective.. it varies. But it sure as hell is not tape. My perception. Writer, write what you may. The director will do what he wants, including telling a prop person.. "Find something to gag her with." And if you happen to be a bondage loving writer, you wonder what the hell happened to my scene?? To be continued! |
| David Knight |
| http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com |
| Wednesday December 10 23:17:48 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| Del wrote:
> When watching DiD scenes, I have always wondered why > certain types of gags were used in a particular scene or > on a particular actress. Why do some get cleave-gagged > while others get tape-gagged? Also, does a particular > gag look better on an actress (cleave, tape, OTM)? Part two.. as someone who has gagged and awful lot of girls in his life, I can unequivacably say, while some girls look great in any gag you put on them, many girls look hugely better in one kind of gag and less beautiful or sexy in another. And so that of course includes your favorite tv and movie actresses. Just like all of you, I have my favorite gags, and yet many times I've been filming, put one of my lesser faves on the girl, and didn't immediately notice any difference. But when I looked thru the viewfinder of the camera, which is basically a mini tv screen.. Oh my God!! She was just transformed! A cute girl suddenly looked gorgeous! And likewise, I have put my fave gags on gorgeous girls, looked thru that same viewfinder, and gone.. ehhhh.. It just did not do it for me. Personally I'm not sure if its face shape, hair or what it is. But I've often found that.. and yes, I'm prejudiced about it because I love a gagged girl.. a gag can take a pretty girl and suddenly make her gorgeous! Some girls, and it may be their look, or it may be what that gag and ropes does to them personally inside, are simply transformed by a gag. And again, I feel it is no different with a Hollywood actress. They are all human and all female. Have you ever had a fave actress finally have a gag scene and you end up disappointed?? After all that hoping and waiting it just didn't have the impact you expected?? Or another less beautiful girl has one, and you are just going "Ohhh Wow!!"!! The scene totally blows you away? I expect that is the reason. My opinions.. your mileage may vary.. |
| David Knight |
| http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com |
| Wednesday December 10 23:35:55 2003 Re: another page |
| > I think the place you're most likely looking for is
> Lorelei's discussion page. It's at > http://www.bedroombondage.com/bondage/guestbook/ > Hopefully this'll be close to what you're looking for. No, not really. I am looking for a page like this. With people like are here where we can discuss mainstream issues that are not in movies or tv yet |
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