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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Thursday December 25 00:10:59 2003 Merry Christmas |
| And a Happy New Year! |
| Jerry |
| TagVideo2@webtv.net |
| Thursday December 25 00:21:31 2003 Re: 3rd rock scene |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> does anyone remember her name August. |
| Anubis |
| Thursday December 25 02:13:21 2003 Re: Merry Christmas |
| To ALL my online Brian's page bud's..
(you know who you are) I wish you all a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year |
| Snowcat |
| Thursday December 25 02:22:42 2003 Re: 3rd rock scene |
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> Title: 3rd Rock From The Sun > Medium: TV Series How were they tied? Any ropes visible? Where were their hands tied at? |
| FFF |
| Thursday December 25 08:46:49 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| benny wrote:
> Hey, its better than sitting around waiting for SHE SPIES to deliver. My addition to this thread will no doubt be perilously close to not off-topic, but here goes... I read the whole thread with interest. One of the things I've thought for some time... you ever sit up late on a Saturday night and watch Cimemax? You see movies like "Masseuse 2" or something from the Emanuelle series or "Married People, Single Sex II" or some such. Alerts get posted here, these things get discussed here... we tend to think since we saw it on TV it's mainstream. But these things are basically supersoft-core adult films. At the very least, when we talk about the scenes - say in one of the "Justine" films - we're blurring the line between what is truly mainstream and what isn't. Anyway, your line about "its better than sitting around waiting for SHE SPIES to deliver" really jumped out at me. When I got tired of waiting for mainstream to deliver... to deliver lengthy, well-lit scenes of what I like to see... I started buying non-mainstream media. I guess what I'm saying... does there come a point at which it just makes more sense to make a classier more mainstream-ish bondage film instead of trying to make a more bondage-filled mainstream pic? Don't get me wrong... I love mainsteam bondage scenes. To me, mainstream scenes are my Michelangelos, my Picassos, my Renoirs. Example: http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/html/clashofthetitans.htm To me that is art. It's beauty, it's tasteful, it is bondage but it says more. It *speaks* to you... as all art should. If you had never seen "Clash of the Titans" before, you could look at these still images and still see a story in them. Frame one... resignation to her fate; anxious; forced calm. Frames 2 & 3... she sees something... so intriguing that for a moment her curiosity becomes the focal emotion. And then frame 4... she has seen the object of her fear and yet there is a hopeful expression as if she sees the possibility of rescue. That is mainstream to me. It's art, pure and simple. I don't want scenes like that to ever be any less than art, even if it means they're not too long and don't focus as much on the damsel and her struggles as I might like. When I want five minutes of solid, well-lit struggling, I'm gonna turn to something made just for people like me. I guess what I'm saying is that both forms have a place, but when you drag either toward the middle, you risk losing the value of either. JMHO. Oh... Happy Holidays! :) |
| CollectorX |
| CollectorXInfo@aol.com |
| http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/ |
| Thursday December 25 08:50:25 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Heh... I rambled. I had two points but I never concluded the first.
The first being... if you're going to try and meld the two forms, were it me, I'd try to make a quality bondage film instead of a bondage-filled mainstream film. But then my second point (which I did conclude)... if you do that, you might end up with something that satisfies neither mainstream audiences or the bondage community. |
| CollectorX |
| CollectorXInfo@aol.com |
| http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/ |
| Thursday December 25 09:10:13 2003 MERRY CHRISTMAS |
| I hope all of you have a wonderful day..almost forgot Merry Festivus..:-) |
| Wayne |
| Thursday December 25 09:50:37 2003 Need help finding these scenes |
| Hi guys, I'd like to ask for your help. I'm looking for 2 videos or images from these 2 scenes.
The first one is from a Mexican soap opera from 1990, called "Yo Compro Esa Mujer". (http://www.alma-latina.net/YoComproEsaMujer/YoComproEsaMujer.shtml - that's the best URL I found) During episode 43-46 the heroine is tied to a chair and gagged with a red scarf. That scene is what sent me on my bondage loving way (along with comics and cartoons like Inspector Gadget) when I was a kid. The other one is a classic Charlie's Angels episode: Marathon Angels. I think this has one of the best gags ever featured in a series. (yes, I'm a gag fun) I'd be really glad if someone could up a video at least from the Charlie's Angels episode. Thanks a lot guys and Merry Christmas! -Jos |
| Jos |
| Thursday December 25 11:49:45 2003 card dealer |
| re the site for Argento's new film one off the damsels appears to be Stefania Rocca who plays the lead detective.Anyone who has seen her previous work would know this could be a real treat |
| james |
| Thursday December 25 13:40:51 2003 Re: BollyWood Bondage |
| Major John wrote:
> Anyway, for those interested in something different, > there are LOTS of Indian films with interest for us guys How about this one? "Insaaf Ka Tarazu" starring Zeenat Aman... |
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| http://movies.123india.com/classic/nyfschool/archives/cla_cla_196.html |
| Thursday December 25 14:17:56 2003 Re: BollyWood Bondage |
| >Major John wrote:
>Anyway, for those interested in something different, > > there are LOTS of Indian films with interest for us > guys Or how about "Wohi Bhayaanak Raat" (aka "That Same Horrifying Night") Review: "Insane Indian disco vampire movie from those unstoppable Ramsay Brothers that’s based, believe it or not, on Fright Night! With kung fu fights, cool dance numbers (do the Shiva!), a pus and boil covered bloodsucker who snares chicks with his patented laser beam eyeballing technique, and a shocking (by Indian standards) rape scene where a Hindu babe is stripped to her scarlet skivvies, dragged across the floor, tied to a bed and (briefly) molested." --------------- I saw a picture of the scene in question in the film encyclopedia book "Mondo Macabro". The damsel appears to be spreadeagled to the bed and gagged with a red scarf. She appears to do some good writhing... Haven't seen the movie though. |
| Thursday December 25 14:31:55 2003 Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| >...if you're going to try and meld the
two forms, were it me, I'd try to make a quality bondage film instead of a bondage-filled mainstream film. But then my second point...if you do that, you might end up with something that satisfies neither mainstream audiences or the bondage community. ---- I'd had to say that's the issue (by trying to appeal to everyone, one can create something that appeals to no one). As I'd noted in a previous post, bondage imagery-laden mainstream efforts such as "The Abductors" (1972), "The Story of O" (both the 1975 & 1992 versions), and "Perils of Gwendoline" (1984) weren't box office gold nor are video/DVD bestsellers. We're a relatively small, niche, target audience. There have been several near mainstream-quality bondage films made. But I suspect that elements we come to expect in mainstream efforts, such as: Fully-scripted dialogue (other than "Mmph!"), large casts, plot development, character development, varied scene settings, and passable acting (which requires multiple scene takes) etc. dramatically drive up production costs. These higher production costs haven't paid off in either being able to charge a higher video/DVD unit price, or in sales volume to cover the costs. After all, think of what many persons here do with their videotapings of mainstream TV programs. They fast-forward thru it until they get to the bondage scenes. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Thursday December 25 16:27:54 2003 Re: Need help finding these scenes |
| Jos wrote:
> The first one is from a Mexican soap opera from 1990, > called "Yo Compro Esa Mujer". > (http://www.alma-latina.net/YoComproEsaMujer/YoComproEsaMu > jer.shtml - that's the best URL I found) > > During episode 43-46 the heroine is tied to a chair and > gagged with a red scarf. That scene is what sent me on my > bondage loving way The only picture I could find from her is at the website by Overlaid, in the latina actresses gallery. The damsel in mention is called Leticia Calderon. http://www.geocities.com/overlaid_web/damselsgallery_latinas2.html |
| Zeus |
| Thursday December 25 17:01:54 2003 Re: Elastoplast: WAS: Cry Terror cover |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Durapore tape from 3M which has a shiney white silk > > > cloth base through wuch it is possible to see > lipstick. > > Lipstick = no seal = no gag. > > Lipstick can work > From where is this scene taken? Is it from a comic book? The villain peeling the gag off the nurse resembles the Joker without his trademark maniacal grin. |
| Hadji |
| Thursday December 25 17:09:36 2003 Merry Christmas |
| To Brian, and all the contributors to and readers of this page,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Brian, this page is truly an unprecedented and spectacular creation. You truly deserve public recognition and acclaim for this achievement. |
| Hadji |
| Thursday December 25 17:23:49 2003 Re: Mainstream Clothing |
| > I’m not sure if clothing counts as a “mainstream medium”,
> but I’m sure Mr. Mod will put me right if this post is > inappropriate. Surely this is an example of the type of thing tat I wanted to put on the new page. |
| jenni |
| Thursday December 25 17:36:44 2003 Re: Need help finding these scenes |
| Zeus wrote:
> The only picture I could find from her is at the website > by Overlaid, in the latina actresses gallery. The damsel > in mention is called Leticia Calderon. > > http://www.geocities.com/overlaid_web/damselsgallery_latinas2.html Thanks a lot Zeus! Yes I know that she is Leticia Calderon... The problem is that one photo is not really enough to bring back those sweet memories, I would need to see the whole sequence or a least a part of it... Does anyone have any idea how to get something like that? [The worst is that I've just seen they are playing it again on TV and those episodes were like 5 days ago... Bad luck.] And does anyone have that Charlie's Angels episode I mentioned? Thanks guys! |
| Jos |
| Thursday December 25 17:37:08 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| CollectorX wrote:
>I'd try to make a quality bondage > film I never saw one. Anyway Collector X thanks for your site. Maybe it is me, or maybe you should advertise a bit more (as you do now) because yesterday was the first time I visited it. Well-known scenes most of them, but caps in an OK quality, a bit like GratefulDead's site. Much appreciated. |
| Per |
| Thursday December 25 17:56:23 2003 Merry Christmas, Brian's Page! |
| Click the link for a Christmas-light-bondage clip (in my usual QuickTime/3ivx format) featuring Mary Kay Adams in Guiding Light.
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| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/GuidingLight-MaryKayAdams.mov |
| Thursday December 25 19:07:51 2003 Re: Peter Pan |
| Jeb wrote:
> Speaking of Peter Pan... > > To see the fullsize version of the pic, use this address: > http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound/files/Pan.gif > > > And, no, I have no idea where it's from... I think it was > actually posted by someone else here a while back. > http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound<< I was the one who scanned that picture of Tiger Lilly and put it up on Knotbusters, my site. I had to remove it because of shortage of space when I updated my scan section. I hope Tiger Lilly looks that good in the new film! |
| Doug R |
| Knot_Buster@lycos.com |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/knotbusters/index.html |
| Thursday December 25 22:42:12 2003 Deco Drive |
| Miami Area Alert
Tonight on Deco Drive Newscaster Lynn Martinez will be Gagged at 11:30 P.M. on Channel 7 in the last minute of the show which is 30 minutes |
| TSR |
| Thursday December 25 23:02:44 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> >...if you're going to try and meld the > two forms, were it me, I'd try to make a quality bondage > film instead of a bondage-filled mainstream film. > > But then my second point...if you > do that, you might end up with something that satisfies > neither mainstream audiences or the bondage community. > ---- > I'd had to say that's the issue (by trying to appeal to > everyone, one can create something that appeals to no > one). > As I'd noted in a previous post, bondage imagery-laden > mainstream efforts such as "The Abductors" > (1972), "The Story of O" (both the 1975 & > 1992 versions), and "Perils of Gwendoline" > (1984) weren't box office gold nor are video/DVD > bestsellers. We're a relatively small, niche, target > audience. > > There have been several near mainstream-quality bondage > films made. But I suspect that elements we come to expect > in mainstream efforts, such as: Fully-scripted dialogue > (other than "Mmph!"), large casts, plot > development, character development, varied scene > settings, and passable acting (which requires multiple > scene takes) etc. dramatically drive up production costs. > These higher production costs haven't paid off in either > being able to charge a higher video/DVD unit price, or in > sales volume to cover the costs. > > After all, think of what many persons here do with their > videotapings of mainstream TV programs. They fast-forward thru it until they get to the bondage scenes. ======= K-n, I hear where you're comin' from, but I gotta disagree. (Actually, I disagree by degree, but let's not get cute.) :-) Van's First Law of Mainstream Movie & TV DiD Bondage---[Oh God, here he goes!]---It's never about the bondage; it's about the STORY. Even if some nearsighted Hollywood producer mistook me for Peter Jackson & threw a g'zillion dollars at me to make the movie of *my* choice, it would STILL be about the story. *BUT*... consider the following: Movie: "Princess of Mars." Playing the part of Dejah Thoris: Catherine Bell (in a gold & leather micro-bikini); The Princess is captured by a war party of a hostile tribe of Tharks. Bound & gagged, she's hustled across the Martian landscape with John Carter & a few companions in semi-hot pursuit. She almost escapes. She's recaptured (& retied.) She almost kills a guard by swing-kicking him in the nads (even though she's B&G'd.) The war chief orders her treated more harshly, & she makes the rest of the trip swinging by her bound hands & feet under a stout pole between two warriors. They arrive at the desert fortress of the tribe's Grand Chief. Defiant (& still B&G'd) she's led into the throne room. Gloating, threats, brave comebacks, etc., etc. The princess is sentenced to be sacrificed to the Great God Uggly-Boogly (in some spectacular, horrific, & photogenic manner.) Ritual bathing & anointing with oil. Sad scene of Princess chained to a dungeon wall & watching the moons set through a barred window. John Carter & friends barge in & rescue the princess just-in-time. Hugs, kisses, etc. Rope: Most bondage is Shimbari-based with pre-tied harnesses that can be secured & removed with relative ease but *LOOK* tight (especially with Catherine's cooperation (flexing against the ropes to make them dimple her skin, etc.)) Gag: Spandex-like cloth that stretches easily. Bandages for cleave-gagged are prefolded & stitched, for continuity. Stuffing is applied for real & tight cleave-gags tied, but here are prepared "stunt gags" that look serious but are more comfortable. EVERYTHING is designed so it can be removed between takes yet be instantly reapplied while still looking tight & effective. The main point: "Story of O" *IS* a niche movie, & always will be in any version. The Gwendoline Yik-Yak movie was *crap.* "The Collector" had a flawed script. (The book is good, but nearly impossible to put on the screen.) Give me a good story with a beautiful DiD & it CAN BE a masterpiece that will satisfy everyone... but it's the story that counts! |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Thursday December 25 23:57:32 2003 Re: Charlie\'s Angels |
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This post was moved to Anything Goes. Poster: Hadji Reason: Off-topic. |
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