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Tuesday December 02 01:10:45 2003
Re: RANDOM THOUGHTS
This post was moved to Anything Goes.

Poster: Major John
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Tuesday December 02 01:20:46 2003
The Simple Life
Okay I was just watching Entertainment Tonight here in Australia (which I think means it aired Monday night in the US) and unfortunately there was other people in the room talking to me so I didn't get the details all that correctly, but as I understand it there is some show in America called "The Simple Life" and it has Paris Hilton in it and some other sheila. Well I think I saw the other shelia whoever she is getting handcuffed (I think it was the other girl anyway - possibly by a cop) and the voice over said something about it but thats all I got. I've got no idea when the episode airs or anything like that. Can anyone fill me in more?
Ham_roll
Tuesday December 02 01:41:05 2003
Re: RANDOM THOUGHTS
The Moderator wrote:

> By replying to posts
> that are off-topic, you only make more work for me.
>
> How many times to I have to pound this into people's
> heads?
>
I make frequent visits to this excellent site, but few contributions. When about to contribute, I make sure that I think through and do a search over a reasonable number of days in the discussion, using a reasonable set of choices. Don't want to bore the regulars. I also check the database. If an entry is appropriate, I will make it. After cross-checking the title and episode to IMDB and the like. And I'll proofread, and try to remember the details of popular concern, and try not to be too glib or say "gag snob" or mention any ages or make fun of Per or the Rams, and try to remember to thank the people who do it on a regular basis, while trying to get ready for work or having an e-mail conversation on the side or waiting for a program to finish.

But sometimes I get rushed or excited or forgetful or just plain stupid. Even if someone has pounded something into my head a few times.

And if I HAVE been deliberate and sincerely concerned about your time and all the rest, and I STILL make a mistake or have an honest misinterpretation of a rule? And I didn't read last week's posts when you pounded three other guys for the same thing?

I won't say it's not worth it. But I do know that, right or wrong, the more pounding I observe, the less I contribute. Wish I didn't, but I do. I know that you would be perfectly within your rights to REQUIRE these meager efforts in exchange for what you provide. And I believe that you (rightly) respond more energetically to the regulars who repeatedly (and without malice?) abuse your simple requests, a group to which I expect I would belong if I were more active. But I don't belong to that group, largely because I will only contribute if I have time to be confident that I'm not doing anything "wrong." Your rules may be second nature to you, but I'm easily distracted and frequently err when I fail to be deliberate. And I've read the rules four or five times! (Not lately, though.)

In my work, I am encouraged to prick my ears up when I hear staff complain that they keep trying but it ain't working. You obviously know what you're doing in general, but if you need a reminder that if pounding something in hasn't worked... here it is. Maybe it can be leveraged in, or screwed, or greased, or you can squeeze it in through an available orifice. Maybe a lighter touch. Eyes rolling, tongue firmly in cheek maybe, but SOMEthing.

Leave some of the piss on the bathroom floor, even. I LOVE how clean you keep the posts! But if I gotta slog thru some extra off-topic stuff because you're taking a small break in the name of stroke avoidance, I'll certainly slog away!

Importantly, I can't see how it would do me any good to piss you off. In fact, I believe that pissing you off, beyond being regrettable in and of itself, would accumulate to a greater penalty in the long run than, say, short-term denial of access to the database. Even if I thought I was being unfairly "punished."

I hope you find this more helpful than annoying. I don't have time right now to even proofread and to check that my tone reads as even as it feels. I suppose I couldn't save this somewhere, and check it later, and THEN post it, to make sure it doesn't lard anyone's skillet...

Weird... I had just decided to scrap this entire post for fear pissing people off when it hit me: scrapping the post would prove one of its assertions -- but no one would know!! :-)

I will end with sincere gratitude for your enormous efforts and appreciation for your talents. And by the way, MTV2 ran an ongoing melodramatic martial-arts parody thing today between videos in which the martial arts Snidely Whiplash equivalent pulled a hood off to reveal a cute young damsel he had kidnapped and bound in order to trade for The Music or some such. Don't know if "we've already gone over this'.
Not Brian
Tuesday December 02 03:31:22 2003
Blink182- Video
Talk about a blink and you will miss it, but since it is a rarity.......Blink 182's new video, kind of a homage to Pink Floyd's "The Wall" school scene, has a Ball Gag scene...at least one female teacher and possibly one putz, but its there for the books. You will probably have to have TIVO to stop the action to prove the scene.
Cleve
Tuesday December 02 03:34:06 2003
Re: Blink182- Video
Cleve wrote:

> Talk about a blink and you will miss it, but since it is
> a rarity.......Blink 182's new video, kind of a homage to
> Pink Floyd's "The Wall" school scene, has a
> Ball Gag scene...at least one female teacher and possibly
> one putz,

I may be able to find this on Kazaa to cap from it. Especially if it's recent and popular - then I might be able to get it in no time. I require only thing though. What's the name of the video?
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday December 02 08:52:10 2003
The Simple Life
> Okay I was just watching Entertainment Tonight here in Australia (which I think means it aired Monday night in the US) and unfortunately there was other people in the room talking to me so I didn't get the details all that correctly, but as I understand it there is some show in
America called "The Simple Life" and it has Paris Hilton in it and some other sheila.

Well I think I saw the other shelia whoever she is getting handcuffed (I
think it was the other girl anyway - possibly by a cop) and the voice over said something about it but thats all
I got. I've got no idea when the episode airs or anything like that. Can anyone fill me in more?
-----
"The Simple Life" reality show makes its debut tonight on Fox @ 8:30PM E.T.

But one can be pretty sure there's no police handcuffs involved in the show -- Entertainment Tonight was likely describing co-star Nicole Richie's real-life arrest on a charge of felony heroin possession and a misdemeanor count of driving with a suspended sentence in February (before the filming of "The Simple Life").

Kinky-napper
Tuesday December 02 09:29:15 2003
Moderation of the Discussion Page
> I make frequent visits to this excellent site, but few contributions. When about to contribute, I make sure that I think through and do a search over a reasonable number of days in the discussion, using a reasonable set of
choices. Don't want to bore the regulars. I also check the database. If an entry is appropriate, I will make it.
After cross-checking the title and episode to IMDB and the like. And I'll proofread, and try to remember the details of popular concern, and try not to be too glib or say "gag snob" or mention any ages or make fun of Per or the Rams, and try to remember to thank the people who do it on a regular basis...

But sometimes I get rushed or excited or forgetful or just plain stupid. Even if someone has pounded something into my head a few times.

...Your rules may be second nature to you, but I'm easily distracted and frequently err when I fail to be deliberate. And I've read the rules four or five times! (Not lately, though.)
-----
I used to be a non-contributing lurker who'd look at Brian's Page once a week, until later becoming a "regular". Even as a non-regular, I didn't feel the Moderator's rules particularly difficult to follow (nearly all are applicable to real-life). You were able to list most of them above in just a couple minutes.

Most of us have either been a facilitator to a group discussion, or at least have participated in something like a weekly 30-60 minute staff meeting or periodic club meeting. And how do you think your boss would feel if a member consistently makes the same mistake at a weekly staff meeting, despite having it "pounded into his head"?

Most group meetings have "Ground Rules" very similar to the Discussion Page.

1) Stay on topic to the mtg's agenda. (If one veers off topic, say talking about last night's game, it is the Facilitator or Group Leader's RESPONSIBILITY to cut that person off, remind them of the agreed-to ground rules.)

2) Avoid negative comments about another person, or making personal attacks. Do not make personal political opinions during the meeting. (What's hard to understand about this ground rule?)

3) If you're making an oral report, keep it brief and to the point (analagous to "Trimming the previous post").

4) If you missed a prior meeting, it is YOUR responsibility to come prepared by reviewing the meeting notes. Don't waste the time of everyone else by duplicating prior discussion material. (Equivalent to using the Scene Database and the "Search" capability for previous posts).

Even though the staff meeting may be held only once a week, it's not an unfair expectation that the group members can remember the meeting's Ground rules from one week to the next.
Kinky-napper
Tuesday December 02 10:21:17 2003
Re: The Simple Life
Kinky-napper wrote:
But one can be pretty sure there's no police handcuffs
> involved in the show -- Entertainment Tonight was likely
> describing co-star Nicole Richie's real-life arrest on a
> charge of felony heroin possession and a misdemeanor
> count of driving with a suspended sentence in February
> (before the filming of "The Simple Life").

Yes there are! You can see them on the commercials.
Tuesday December 02 10:36:56 2003
Re: Blink182- Video
Jazz411 wrote:

> Cleve wrote:
>
> > Talk about a blink and you will miss it, but since
> it is
> > a rarity.......Blink 182's new video, kind of a
> homage to
> > Pink Floyd's "The Wall" school scene, has
> a
> > Ball Gag scene...at least one female teacher and
> possibly
> > one putz,
>
> I may be able to find this on Kazaa to cap from it.
> Especially if it's recent and popular - then I might be
> able to get it in no time. I require only thing though.
> What's the name of the video?

The video is called "Feeling This"!
It has in fact a short scene where a woman - a teacher - wears a ball gag.

But like Cleve already said, that scene is very very short, and during that short time, the woman's face is covered by the bars of the jail where she is sitting in, so all in all you see her for a half second in her predicament! Pity!

See you,

Xanatol
http://mitglied.lycos.de/jostre123/preview/blink182-feelingthis.jpg
Xanatol
xanatol_chan@hotmail.com
http://www.boundsingers.net.ms
Tuesday December 02 10:37:16 2003
Re: The Missing, missing
Jazz411 wrote:

> doug wrote:
>
> > Hardly gets a peep?

I was really commenting on the fact that this scene has gotten quite a peep. I attribute it to the general slim pickens in mainstream media. The scene is good - not great. It's simple for my taste, mostly because the women are simple, their characters are not developed, and they are dressed in period clothes, which I absolutely hate.

I know this stuff is subjective. I'm speaking merely from my perspective. I'm not arguing the point
doug
doug5759
Tuesday December 02 10:43:06 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Jazz411 wrote:

> I happen to love a good chair tie. One of my favorites
> (though I've only seen it in pictures) is depicted here.
>

I love chair ties. What is this scene from? very nice.
Chair ties usually accentuate the breasts nicely. And I like them especially when the girl's legs are tied to each leg of the chair - preferrably the rear legs, although you don't see that often in Mainstream media
doug
doug5759
Tuesday December 02 10:55:32 2003
Re: Chair-ties
The more rope, the better
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/features/alifelessordinary07.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/features/fedoper99a05.jpg
Tuesday December 02 12:16:47 2003
Re: Chair-ties
doug wrote:

> I love chair ties. What is this scene from?

So do I, together with poleties, hogties, hands behind back- all except suspension (for commercial use only so to speak) and hands in front, in particular when the damsel is too dumb to renove her gag and scream for help.

The pic is cute Katherine Heigl in "Bride of Chucky".
We actually see her kicking the evil doll (voiced by Jennifer Tilly) into a microwave oven to fry it. Not that THAT kills it!

In the film, the scene starts-suddenly- with a 2 second closeup of her bound hands, then the camera pans up her back. So the closeup I missed taping (%€#"#€#").
Next we see her in the background in a shot of her boyfriend driving the camper, and then the kicking scene. All these scenes are, unfortunately, very short.
Later the camper turns over, so does Katherine, and there's a little longer scene of her lying on her side, still tied to the chair, waiting for her boyfriend to help.
Lastly in another short scene she's tied back to back with the boyfriend.
(by "short scene" I mean 2-5 seconds). A shame, because she IS cute.
Per
Tuesday December 02 12:34:06 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Here: http://www.kheigl.com/film/

-under "film" you can find OK quality caps from the film (several from the scene too).

Same for the other movies where this cutie has had scenes:
The Tempest, Prince Valiant, Under Siege2: Dark Territory, and Descendant. She is even gagged in the last one IIRC.
Per
Tuesday December 02 13:04:30 2003
Re: Blink182- Video
Never mind. It seems someone else did that job for me.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday December 02 13:06:43 2003
Re: Chair-ties
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The more rope, the better
>
I agree to a point. Both of these look nice. I especially like the second one - what's it from?

As for the "Bride of Chucky" vidcaps, I got them from HtF's site. He added them recently. They're at http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/Chucky_usB/index.html.html

Btw, why is her boyfriend driving the camper while she's tied to a chair? I'd imagine he'd free her first, then drive away.

Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday December 02 14:32:59 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Jazz411 wrote:

> Btw, why is her boyfriend driving the camper while she's
> tied to a chair? I'd imagine he'd free her first, then
> drive away.

Because the male doll, Chucky hisself, is holding a gun to his head?
So he deliberately drives the camper off the road so it turns over, and he can untie Katherine. They are recaptured by the dolls (and the female doll is MAD!)


Per
Tuesday December 02 14:57:29 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Jazz411 wrote:

I especially
> like the second one - what's it from?

"Federal operator" up on Anubis' site this week.

(First is "A life less organized" starring Cameron Diaz)
Per
Tuesday December 02 15:28:26 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Per wrote:
>
> (First is "A life less organized" starring
> Cameron Diaz)


I think you mean "A Life Less Ordinary"
Doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 02 16:26:33 2003
Re: RANDOM THOUGHTS
>
> > > O'Donnell and Babs Streissand would look hot in
> bondage?

Wasn't the former in bondage in 'Exit to Eden'

And the latter played a hooker in a 60/70s movie where I believe that she was bound but certainly laked about a client that liked to tie her hands behind her and oll eggs at her. [Yes, that's what was said - and you guys worry about whicg gag fetish is strange]
anna
Tuesday December 02 16:32:21 2003
Re: Chair-ties

> Btw, why is her boyfriend driving the camper while she's
> tied to a chair? I'd imagine he'd free her first, then
> drive away.

Would you?
Tuesday December 02 16:39:40 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Per wrote:

> "Federal operator" up on Anubis' site this
> week.
>
Thanks. I noticed it has onscreen tying - always a huge plus for me.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday December 02 16:43:06 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Jazz411 wrote:

>
>
> Anyone else like chair ties as much as I do? They're one
> of my all-time favorites.

Chair ties are the bomb. Four Rooms, My Favorite Martian, Memories of Midnight.... all good stuff.
H
Tuesday December 02 17:03:54 2003
Re: The Simple Life
Kinky-napper wrote:

> "The Simple Life" reality show makes its debut
> tonight on Fox @ 8:30PM E.T.
>
> But one can be pretty sure there's no police handcuffs
> involved in the show -- Entertainment Tonight was likely
> describing co-star Nicole Richie's real-life arrest on a
> charge of felony heroin possession and a misdemeanor
> count of driving with a suspended sentence in February
> (before the filming of "The Simple Life").


Okay Entertainment Tonight is repeated again here at 4am and I videoed it and they show here being handcuffed by a cop at what looks to be a petrol station and Bob Gowen says "and somehow Nicole ends up in handcuffs". So based on what I saw on ET I would say it is as certain as the sun will rise there will be atleast something of some description on it.
Ham_roll
Tuesday December 02 17:10:52 2003
Re: The Simple Life
> and I videoed it and they show here being handcuffed by a

I think that should have been showed her!
Ham_roll
Tuesday December 02 17:11:49 2003
Re: Chair-ties
> Chair ties are the bomb. Four Rooms, My Favorite Martian,
> Memories of Midnight.... all good stuff.

Deadly Lessons, Whiz Kids, The Surrogate
Tuesday December 02 17:24:17 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Carrie Anne-Moss had a great chair tie in 'Dark Justice' (two different ties thanks to a major continuity error.

Neo
Tuesday December 02 18:35:03 2003
Re: Chair-ties
Doug wrote:

> I think you mean "A Life Less Ordinary"

No. Ask Pat Powers.

Per
Tuesday December 02 18:39:03 2003
Re: Chair-ties
-or, to be less cryptical, you are right of course; go here:

http://www.jollyroper.com/halloshame/release.html

for an explanation of the "life less organized" term.
Per
Tuesday December 02 18:46:34 2003
Terror Among Us Remake
I haven't asked this question in a while, so I figure it's finally time. Who would you cast today in a "Terror Among Us" remake?
Del
Tuesday December 02 19:12:05 2003
Re: Chair-ties
> > Cameron Diaz)

...who also had a chair-tie in "Head Above Water". She had three ties (only one to a chair) in HAW... what a jewel of a movie.

Come to think of it... Diaz has been tied up in: "Head Above Water", "A Life Less Ordinary", "The Mask", "Being John Malkovich", and "Vanilla Sky". That's just the ones I know about. Not a bad DiD career so far. But I digress.

Some of my fav chair ties... Nicolette Sheridan in "Beverly Hills Ninja", Jennifer Beals in "Four Rooms", the scene from the Profiler episode "To Serve and Protect", "PuppetMaster 2" (which sadly they haven't released on DVD yet (also could be some scene creep here!)), the Walker Texas Ranger episode "Borderline", Marisa Tomei in "The Watcher", both chair scenes in "Die Watching"... guess when you get right down to it, it's hard to make a chair-tie look bad. :)

Attached *to* something in general seems appealing to me. Few things for me can beat a well-done pole-tie.
CollectorX
CollectorXInfo@aol.com
http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/
Tuesday December 02 19:36:06 2003
You Can't Do That On Television
Does anyone remember this 80's show that came on Nickelodeon? Anyway there was an episode about heroes, and there were some scenes where a young lady was tied to a railroad track. Does anyone have these clips or know where they can be found?
Tuesday December 02 20:10:33 2003
Re: Terror Among Us Remake
Del wrote:

> I haven't asked this question in a while, so I figure
> it's finally time. Who would you cast today in a
> "Terror Among Us" remake?

Yeesh. Not THIS again?
Tom
Tuesday December 02 20:31:03 2003
Re: Terror Among Us Remake
Tom wrote:

> Del wrote:
>
> > I haven't asked this question in a while, so I
> figure
> > it's finally time. Who would you cast today in a
> > "Terror Among Us" remake?
>
> Yeesh. Not THIS again?

For the answer to this question, I would use the search feature to search TAU and see who everybody chose, the last 20 times this topic came up. Is there some kind of requirement for you to ask this quesiton every four months or so? All I can say is "yikes!"
Terror Among
Tuesday December 02 20:40:00 2003
Re: Moderation of the Discussion Page
Kinky-napper wrote:
Even though the staff meeting may be held only once a week, it's not an unfair expectation that the group members can remember the meeting's Ground rules from one week to the next.

I was admonished for making a reply to an 'off topic' post - however, the reply was made to a post that was on the board at the time and only ruled 'off topic' later - somewhat hard to expect readers to be clairvoyant as to the mood of the moderator at any given moment.
Major John
Tuesday December 02 20:45:38 2003
Re: Terror Among Us Remake
Del wrote:

I haven't asked this question in a while, so I figure
it's finally time. Who would you cast today in a
"Terror Among Us" remake?

Forgot my main post - it's a clincher - Rosie O'Donnell and Barbara Steisand.

Major John
Tuesday December 02 20:53:29 2003
Gettin' Lucky on the Sci Fi Channel

Here's hoping that the rest of you who might have some gaps in your clips library were as fortunate as I was this day. For those who weren't aware [nothing posted in VCR Alerts!!], Sci Fi Channel aired a Buck Rogers mini-marathon Tuesday. Featured were the "Planet of the Slave Girls" and "Vegas in Space" episodes.
In the latter opus, Ana Alicia looked mighty fine wearing a shiny outfit and buckled down to a sort of dentist's chair as she awaited, with some trepidation, the pleasure of villain Richard Lynch.
But the main event was in Part 1 of "Planet of the Slave Girls." That is assuming there are some fans out there of scenes that involve a very cute girl [Brianne Leary] wearing a very sexy outfit and being subjected to a very VERY nice and lengthy hand-gagging!!
I would have posted these alerts myself if I hadn't been out of town for several days, just returning very late Monday. But I gotta ask whether anybody else is paying attention to programming on the Sci Fi Channel, a truly golden source of material, IMHO. Wasn't there some talk on the site a couple weeks ago about a 'designated hitter', as it were, keeping a close eye on programs on a given channel? Did Sci Fi fall through the cracks? If not, that "DH" belongs in the Pioneer League, not The Bigs. In the meantime, for the sake of the Sci Fi Channel, I'm willing to step up to the dish if no one else has his heart set on the job.
Overlooker
Tuesday December 02 20:53:59 2003
Re: RANDOM THOUGHTS
Not Brian wrote:


> But sometimes I get rushed or excited or forgetful or
> just plain stupid. Even if someone has pounded something
> into my head a few times.

I think this is silly. Being rushed or excited has little
to do with posting off-topic political posts.

Everybody who has been around knows not only are they
off-topic, but that they are a ruinous topic. The
entire forum goes up in flames quickly.

I kick ass on this so that people know I'm not kidding
around.

> And if I HAVE been deliberate and sincerely concerned
> about your time and all the rest, and I STILL make a
> mistake or have an honest misinterpretation of a rule?

How in the world does this apply to the given instance?

> And I didn't read last week's posts when you pounded
> three other guys for the same thing?

Maybe.

> I won't say it's not worth it. But I do know that, right
> or wrong, the more pounding I observe, the less I
> contribute.

So what's the solution, let Anything Go? I have a few
methods of handling things available to me. Delete posts.
Move posts. Chastise malfactors in public. Block offenders.

I added the "move" option to help out those that make
honest errors, either for marginal calls or through
ignorance. I don't generally "pound" people for that.

I do for political screeds and replying to off-topic
posts, because everybody knows that wrong. Hell, it's
all covered in the FAQ list, which veryone is responsible
for reading.

1.4 I think a post is off-topic, what do I do?

It's best to do nothing, as I read the page every day, and will deal with off-topic messages. Do not reply to the message, that makes for more cleanup. You can post a "point of order" message to the forum and ask for a ruling, especially if it seems as though it's been overlooked, or email me about it. Do not moderate the page for me by instructing the offender.


1.6 A post offended me, is it OK to blast the other person? Don't they "deserve" it.

No, of course not. If the post is on-topic, then you must abide by the rules in your reply. You can request clarification of course. Abusive posts, regardless of supposed justification, will be deleted. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. Sometime posts are made by interlopers to get rise. I will take care of those when I see them. It's best to ruin their fun by letting it disappear quietly.

The Moderator
Tuesday December 02 20:58:16 2003
Re: You Can't Do That On Television
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Does anyone remember this 80's show that came on
> Nickelodeon? Anyway there was an episode about heroes,
> and there were some scenes where a young lady was tied to
> a railroad track.

Hmmm, yeah. Lisa Ruddy as I recall. Doesn't seem to be
in the Database at this time.

> Does anyone have these clips or know where they can be
> found?

Sorry.

Brian R
Tuesday December 02 21:51:48 2003
Re: You Can't Do That On Television
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Does anyone remember this 80's show that came on
> Nickelodeon? Anyway there was an episode about heroes,
> and there were some scenes where a young lady was tied to
> a railroad track. Does anyone have these clips or know
> where they can be found?

I've noticed that this show is rather popular on Kazaa. However, it's also been around for 8 years, so good luck finding the episode in question. Each episode is named after a theme (i.e. "Relatives", etc), so maybe an episode named "Heroes" exists. Try searching on Kazaa and downloading the episode yourself - they're only about 100 megs or so.

I might download it myself if I happen to see it, to help out. But I'd recommend trying it for yourself first.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday December 02 22:01:56 2003
24
Lenghty handgag at least for Kim (Elisha Cuthbert) on next week's 24, from the previews. She just got found out by a bad guy inside CTU. Unfortunately, he also is giving her the "this room is soundproofed, so don't bother screaming" speech. Also unfortunately, her haircut this season somehow makes this otherwise gorgeous young woman look average at best. But we'll hold out hope.....

Yeoman
Tuesday December 02 22:54:46 2003
Re: You Can't Do That On Television
(unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > Does anyone remember this 80's show that came on
> > Nickelodeon? Anyway there was an episode about
> heroes,
> > and there were some scenes where a young lady was
> tied to
> > a railroad track.
>
> Hmmm, yeah. Lisa Ruddy as I recall. Doesn't seem to be
> in the Database at this time.
>
> > Does anyone have these clips or know where they can
> be
> > found.

http://www.ycdtotv.com
That website might have something, I know they have pics from the dungeon skits where kids were chained up and harassed by one of the adult male cast members, nothing exciting though. That show was one of my favorites when I was little, and two of their regular skits involved cast members being chained up (dungeon and detention), but mostly involved the dudes of the cast.


TBirdSC
Tuesday December 02 23:59:02 2003
Re: 24
Yeoman wrote:

> Lenghty handgag at least for Kim (Elisha Cuthbert) on
> next week's 24, from the previews. She just got found out
> by a bad guy inside CTU. Unfortunately, he also is giving
> her the "this room is soundproofed, so don't bother
> screaming" speech. Also unfortunately, her haircut
> this season somehow makes this otherwise gorgeous young
> woman look average at best.

Isn't it amazing how that works? It sounds absurd to say Cuthbert is now average looking, but it's true. That hairstyle makes her look like she's aged 10 years.

For years I wanted to see Janine Turner get a full-treatment scene with the short black hair she had on "Northern Exposuure" or in the Stallone movie where's she tied up in the helicopter but not gagged. Then she gets gagged a couple years later with her hair long and messy and I'm thinking....so? She just didn't look as appealing. Other cases?

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