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| Tuesday December 23 02:29:33 2003 Re: Rebeca alert |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> A busty blonde was tied hand and foot with rope today on > Rebeca, a Spanish soap airing on Univision at 2pm EST. > No gag. She wore pants and a pullover. Scene will > continue tomorrow. This was also posted to the alerts page. How did she end up this way? Chloroformed, knocked out from a blow to the head, held at gunpoint? |
| bdecker |
| Tuesday December 23 02:56:14 2003 Re: the Batgirl quote |
| > Crimefightresses should be seen and not heard." Why I find it so sexy, I don't know, but I do...
> > Oh, there's plenty of us find that kinda talk sexy. > > My own fave is Ruth Roman, in "The Baby"-- > "Tie her up and gag her." > Of course the 'gag her' command is sexy--I agree with the poster who referenced the Lynda Carter scene in that Wonder Woman 'starships' episode--but when I said I don't know why I find it sexy, I'm talking about the SECOND part: "Crimefightresses should be seen and not heard." There's something about paraphrasing that incredibly controlling and invalidating children's quote, and using it about a woman (a superheroine no less) that is just so sexy... |
| Mo |
| mcholewa@hotmail.com |
| Tuesday December 23 07:34:10 2003 Evil captor gagging talk |
| > Of course the 'gag her' command is sexy -- I agree with the poster who referenced the Lynda Carter scene in that Wonder Woman 'Starships' episode --but when I said I don't know why I find it sexy,
I'm talking about the SECOND part: "Crimefightresses should be seen and not heard." There's something about paraphrasing that incredibly controlling and invalidating children's quote, and using it about a woman... that is just so sexy... ----- As well as William Windom's answer to his riddle in the classic The Rookies ("Time Is the Fire" episode), while he re-gags blonde Lynne Marta, which went something like: "Well, you know what that means. *This* goes back on. And do you know why? Yes, that's right... Chicks should be seen -- and not heard." |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday December 23 08:48:23 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| > I've worked
> with a lot of actresses and I can tell you that almost > every one of them would have sold their souls to have > gotten Maggie Gyllenhaal's role in Secretary. I've not worked with a lot of actresses, but this seems credible to me. > Write a great role, and they'll > line up, desperately wanting to play it. They won't do > it, obviously, if they think it's exploitative, that > you're just getting your rocks off. I think they'd do it even if it had exploitative elements, if it also had enough characterization to provide an actress some good fodder. > So, any ideas? I am LOUSY with ideas. My ideas have ideas. But you don't even need to depend on me for ideas, a lot of great ones have already been done. There are already a lot of great ones out there. Frex: 1) In a medieval land, the son of the king grows up with daughter of his second in command. It's a childhood romance that appears to be blossoming into True Love. Then there's a palace coup by the girl's father. The prince must flee or be killed, the daughter must stay in the castle and be the new princess. Years later, the daughter flees the castle when she's set up for an arranged political marriage. Shortly thereafter, she's captured by a band of nomads and made their sex slave, which involves being tied up and molested a lot as she's 'trained.' She's subsequently given as a gift to a wandering swordsman who impresses the nomads mightily with his fighting skills. The wandering swordsman turns out to be the former prince, but they don't recognize each other at first, falling in love all over again from the master/slave perspective. What will happen when they recognize who they are? 2) A beautiful rocknroll singer in the Britney Spears/Christina Aguilera mold who has legions of devoted young girls as fans discovers that her ailing father, who has managed her, has not been a good businessman. In fact, he's been a terrible businessman, and the only way to keep her Dad on life support turns out to be to do the bidding of evil corporate types who now own her contract. They decide that they want to sexy up her image, in fact, they want her to go from being an idol for virgins to a total sex slut. To that end, they turn her over to a handsome young man who forces her to do more and more sexually blatant things, starting out gradually by having her wear sexy clothes in public, and ending up with her public debut as a distinctly non-virginal singer. It's all very dominance/submission and includes bondage. The acting opportunity here is the chance to portray the singer as she has every bit of her self-image stripped from her, her feelings of loss for her old personality and her horrified realization that she REALLY LIKES her new, sexed-up personality and she REALLY LIKES the hunky guy who's more or less forced it into existence. She might even love him. 3) A biological warfare agent called the terminal virus seems destined to wipe out the human race in the future. It kills people whenever they make love. As a result, the birthrate has fallen to zero and women live in armed camps, defending themselves from men overwhelmed by lust with a shoot first, say no later policy. But a brilliant young scientist discovers a cure for the virus. He abducts a beautiful young guard from one of the camps so he can test it. He tries to explain his good intentions to her, but she doesn't believe him -- she thinks he's just cracked under the strain of horniness and that they'll both die if they make love. So to test it, and to save the human race, he's forced to tie her up, gag her, and rape her. Repeatedly. Between rapes, he treats her well, and she realizes he's a nice guy except for the bondage/rape thing, which doesn't feel so bad after awhile. Will romance bloom when they don't develop the disesase and die a horrible death or will the circumstances of their relationship prove to be too much? 4) A beautiful woman is very successful in the corporate world, but her personal life is barren. This makes her crabby, which works well in the corporate world but has bad effects on her psyche. One day she's driven over the edge by mistakes made by a homely male employee, and she really chews him out, totally destroying any sense of self-worth he might have, reducing him to janitor for the company. Subsequently, she finds herself repeatedly sexually attacked by the man, although no one else can see him and he now has some fairly magical attributes, such as tentacles. There are other indications that his magical attributes might be part of general disorientation on her part. The attacks leave her in humiliating postures, such as winding up naked and bound in a public phone booth. Does the fired man who seems innocent enough in daylight, have some kind of magical powers, or is this just her unhappy psyche in the process of a mental breakdown, driven by guilt, loneliness and sexual frustration? 5) A beautiful, and we mean pornbody beautiful, young woman with a gift for writing is determined to be a journalist, working as a writer. But no one will take her seriously because she's so beautiful and stacked and all. They all tell her she ought to go into advertsing sales or broadcast journalism. The woman, who has major issues with her looks and the way people treat her because of them, refuses, still seeking a writing job while waiting tables -- for four years. An amoral scum publisher sees her as an opportunity -- offers her the writing job she wants so badly, then sets it up so that he can blackmail her into becoming his personal sex slave in order to keep the job. After four years of no luck, she's vulnerable to blackmail and agrees to be his sex slave. She also LIKES being his sex slave, though she hates the guy himself. Can she get out of this horrible situation with the aid of the hunky young editor she is REALLY attracted to? 6) A conqueror type lays seige to a large, wealthy citadel. The fiance of the king, who's kinda wishy-washy, conceives the idea of sneaking beyond the city walls to spy on the enemy camp. She's captured in short order and brought before the conqueror, who's at first inclined to just have her killed, but at her entreaties relents and simply makes her his prisoner. When he interrogates her to discover what she knows about the citadel, they find themselves powerfully attracted to one another. In fact, they fall in love with one another, but it's a rocky relationship, as the conqueror suspects her of being an enemy agent, suspicions which are greatly fuelled when he finds out who she was formerly engaged to. As his captive and slave, the relationship is tremendously unequal, but their attraction is so great that he eventually agrees to give up the seige of the citadel if the king will give her to him as his "booty." The king agrees, but then as she's suspended in ropes outside the city walls, the conqueror forces her to publicly proclaim herself his property, who's voluntarily making herself his. Which she happily does, the end. Now, the INTERESTING thing is that all of these "ideas" have already been made. Three are hentai, one is a B-movie, one is a 50s musical, and one is a novel I wrote. I had to rewrite one of the ideas slightly, the rest are pretty much as described. Mostly they just need scripts that are fully attuned to their possibilities. So, yeah, you could say I have a few ideas. And can anybody name the hentai and movies described here? Even the one I altered should be recognizable. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday December 23 12:05:02 2003 Getting stuff in the DB |
| We're still doing a poor job of getting recent, well-discussed scenes in. Cases in point, General Hospital with Robin Christopher and the CSI Miami from last week.
I entered those as best I could from discussion posts. It would be good to check on others from recent times, especially the Spanish-language soaps. If you are the first to report a scene, you should be the one to enter it in the DB. For a while there, I checking each scene for DB inclusion and nagging if it wasn't there. I do have other things to do. |
| Brian R |
| Tuesday December 23 13:15:32 2003 Delta Heat |
| Shades of Kim Cattrall |
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| Tuesday December 23 14:28:00 2003 Re: Mainstream Movie Ideas |
| Pat Powers wrote:
And can anybody name the hentai and movies described here? Not me. How did you manage to circumvent the "This post is too long" message? |
| Per |
| Tuesday December 23 14:43:03 2003 Fuzzweb |
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This post was deleted. Poster: kkl Reason: Off-topic. Direct questions about other sites to the owners directly. Hint: think case sensitive. |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday December 23 15:00:35 2003 unsatisfied? Always want more! |
| Are we all perpetually unsatisfied?
For example The Lynda Carter scene in "starships" was great as that thick black cleave gag was tied in her mouth. Did anyone ask why her hands were not tied behind her back? Heather Locklear has been gagged no less than 5 times, including one with white tape, two in dresses, one in a night gown, one in her uniform, three white cleave gags, one black cleave gag, and one with her own scarves and stockings. Is there anyone out there looking for a scene on the night time soap where she is gagged while playing the tough chic? Cheryl Ladd was gagged only once and not while she was young. Anyone wish that she had gotton gagged on the angels? Strange the spanish angels were on for just over a year and we had several scenes with gags. NO ONE missed out on being tied and GAGGED. Charlie's lot was on for several years and we only have two scenes with a gagged angle. My point is that we spend most of our time and energy on what might have, could have, should have been. We will never be satisifed |
| Carl |
| Carl424@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday December 23 15:08:06 2003 Re: Hooch |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I was just reminded of a movie that was acutally out on > VHS a while back...but I;ve never seen it capped... The > movie was called "Hooch"...does anyone have it > on a site somewhere? Good stuff. I wrote a database entry that I think describes it pretty well, and there's a 3 1/2 minute clip on my member site. |
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| Raffish |
| Tuesday December 23 15:27:29 2003 re: Heather Locklear |
| > Heather Locklear has been gagged no less than 5 times,
> including one with white tape...three white cleave gags, > one black cleave gag, and one with her own scarves... three white cleaves?? Two I think. 5 gag scenes total. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Tuesday December 23 15:30:22 2003 Re: unsatisfied? Always want more! |
| Carl wrote:
> Are we all perpetually unsatisfied? > For example > > Heather Locklear has been gagged no less than 5 times, > including one with white tape, two in dresses, one in a > night gown, one in her uniform, three white cleave gags, > one black cleave gag, and one with her own scarves and > stockings. Is there anyone out there looking for a scene > on the night time soap where she is gagged while playing > the tough chic? > Actually, I think Heather's totals would read: White tape, black cleave, 2 white cleaves, and, I believe, a man's tie in that "Dynasty" scene, where I think she was tied up with stockings but gagged with a tie. I agree that we always want more and better scenes, but as for being not satisfied? No way. Just think about all the super hot actresses that have been bound and gagged in the last 10 years alone. The list is endless. I actually can't believe we've gotten as many as we have. |
| Tuesday December 23 15:39:03 2003 Re: Rampage |
| Anubis wrote:
Pat Powers wrote: > > > I've never heard of it. Is anyone up on this film? > Anubis wrote: > Pretty decent movie, it's been a few years since I've > seen it. I don't recall there being anything of interest > in it. There must be an unrated version, then. I can't believe at least 2 different sources (imdb.com & another "review" site) would report that there was a scene without it being true. |
| Tuesday December 23 16:07:41 2003 Re: unsatisfied? Always want more! |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
>> I agree that we always want more and better scenes, but > as for being not satisfied? No way. Just think about all > the super hot actresses that have been bound and gagged > in the last 10 years alone. The list is endless. I > actually can't believe we've gotten as many as we have. Yes, almost all find their way into ropes/restraints at one point or another and many are even gagged. But they almost always lack something that would make the scene or their careers complete. Why were Skully's hands tied behind her back in only 2 out of 5 scenes? Why were many of the scenes dark and hard to see? The single biggest frustration of all time is That Lynda was never silenced in her WW outfit. Gagged three times, twice for no purpose (once on a boat, and once in an empty warehouse that was to be blown up in 3 minutes)but not once in boots, nylons and strapless top! |
| Tuesday December 23 16:18:24 2003 Re: Rampage |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> There must be an unrated version, then. I can't believe > at least 2 different sources (imdb.com & another > "review" site) would report that there was a > scene without it being true. Thats always a possibility. I heard that it ran into trouble with the censors before it was released, so the scene may have been cut out of the video I had. I cant see where the scene would have taken place, most of the movie takes place in a courtroom. Its about a serial killer trying to plead insanity. |
| Anubis |
| Tuesday December 23 17:21:25 2003 Argento's new film The Card Player |
| At the website, in Italian, two female cleave gag pics. Also trailer with gag scene (on computer screen in movie). Site is not too difficult to navigate; find page with flash pic of computer on table with lamp (this is pic page) click on newspaper clippings on wall to see good pic of dark haired girl gagged. January release. |
| http://www.ilcartaio.it/carte.htm# |
| Tuesday December 23 17:26:06 2003 Re: unsatisfied? Always want more! |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Yes, almost all find their way into ropes/restraints at > one point or another and many are even gagged. But they > almost always lack something that would make the scene or > their careers complete. > > The single biggest frustration of all time is That Lynda > was never silenced in her WW outfit. I rate scenes totally on the actress' looks and the gag type. The rest is not a big deal because you can't expect more in mainstream scenes, but always welcome when they appear. For example, Elisha Cuthbert's first scene on "24." The part where she's taken out of the back seat, flung over the shoulders with her hands tied perfectly on top of her backside and gagged, plus the nice upward head turn she does during the carry scene was an added bonus to the basic gag closeups we saw earlier and afterward. I also agree Gillian Anderson's scenes always had some major flaw, as well as some nice touches. My biggest beef there was her face was cut up in 4 of her 6 gag scenes. The final one on the bed was nice with great screaming and mmmppffing, but the gag was oversized and sloppy. The crawling on the ground in her PJ's one was also nice (remember that closeup of her hands tied behind her back with the camera right on her pajama-clad rear end as she struggled on the floor?) but the gag was too thin and lame. |
| Tuesday December 23 17:36:33 2003 Re: Argento's new film The Card Player |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> At the website, in Italian, two female cleave gag pics. > Also trailer with gag scene (on computer screen in > movie). Site is not too difficult to navigate; find page > with flash pic of computer on table with lamp (this is > pic page) click on newspaper clippings on wall to see > good pic of dark haired girl gagged. January release. > http://www.ilcartaio.it/carte.htm# REALLY great instructions! - I spent 15 mins at this page navigating and NOTHING! I hate these lazy posts - if you found something of interest - right click / properties - and COPY the bloody EXACT URL! |
| Tuesday December 23 18:03:33 2003 Re: unsatisfied? Always want more! |
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> The crawling on the ground in her PJ's one was also nice > (remember that closeup of her hands tied behind her back > with the camera right on her pajama-clad rear end as she > struggled on the floor?) but the gag was too thin and lame. I actually thought that the gag (panty house with a white scarf packing) was better than average. I find that the more I get, the more I want. Heather Locklear's great scene with the snake. Bound hand and foot, short dress and gagged. I would have liked stockings and more struggling. She just sat there. Some gag talk would have been great. Diana Rigg had great facial expressions while gagged, which I always like. An actress who can say, "dam. how did I get myself tied up." or "How can I get free" while gagged is priceless |
| Tuesday December 23 20:01:46 2003 Re: Argento's new film The Card Player |
| > > At the website, in Italian, two female cleave gag
> pics. > > Also trailer with gag scene (on computer screen in > > movie). Site is not too difficult to navigate; > > REALLY great instructions! - I spent 15 mins at this page > navigating and NOTHING! > I hate these lazy posts - if you found something of > interest - right click / properties - and COPY the bloody EXACT URL! After a little searching, I found it. Go to the address below and click on the photo of the man in the tie playing cards. An annoying Flash pop-up should come and after an intro that looks like a brick wall parting, click on the window in the middle, skip the intro, and you will see a pic of two computers on a desk. The two photos are on the wall towards the right; click on them to view. |
| Brian L |
| http://www.ilcartaio.it/trucchi.htm# |
| Tuesday December 23 20:14:04 2003 Re: Argento's new film The Card Player |
| > The two
> photos are on the wall towards the right; click on them to view. I saw three pictures of gagged women. I tried to copy them, but it would not allow it. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday December 23 20:21:16 2003 Unsatisfied? Always want more! |
| > Heather Locklear's great scene with the snake. Bound hand and foot, short dress and gagged. I would have liked stockings and more struggling. She just sat there. Some gag talk would have been great.
---- However, the T.J. Hooker ("Outcall") scene was more realistic as filmed. After all, when a cobra is slithering towards you, flicking out its tongue sensing for vibrations, it's not a bad idea to freeze and avoid making sounds. Yeah, writhe around and that'd let it zero in on you right away. And the "Outcall" scene came out better than we'd had any right to expect. Because it was set in the back of a warehouse during afterhours, we knew it should be dark inside. Yet Locklear's scene was well-lit thoughout -- unlike the "dark shadows" scenes we've come to expect in of recent years. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday December 23 20:24:00 2003 Re: Argento's new film The Card Player |
| > I saw three pictures of gagged women.
There is one brunette and two blondes. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday December 23 22:02:44 2003 Re: unsatisfied? Always want more! |
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> The Lynda Carter scene in "starships" was great > as that thick black cleave gag was tied in her mouth. > Did anyone ask why her hands were not tied behind her back? IIRC, she was tied to an archair. Armchair ties usually involve the armrests.If anybody knows of any that don't, let me know. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Tuesday December 23 22:05:58 2003 soaps |
| anything progressing on the soaps? it's been pretty quiet lately so I assume nothin's happening right now? |
| Tuesday December 23 22:12:47 2003 Re: Argento's new film The Card Player |
| > (unsigned poster) wrote:
> At the website, in Italian, two female cleave gag > pics. Also trailer with gag scene (on computer screen in > movie). Site is not too difficult to navigate; find > page with flash pic of computer on table with lamp (this > is pic page) click on newspaper clippings on wall to > see good pic of dark haired girl gagged. January > release. http://www.ilcartaio.it/carte.htm# > REALLY great instructions! They were good instructions, and it was the correct url. The site, and the pic in question, are in macromedia flash. The pic is in flash and does not have a direct url, you have to go through the site like I suggested... and you should aplologize. By the way, the pic can be copied by screen capture, command, shift 4 in Mac, scroll the cross hair over the pic and it will save it to your hard drive. |
| Tuesday December 23 22:50:36 2003 Re: soaps |
| > anything progressing on the soaps? it's been pretty
> quiet lately so I assume nothin's happening right now? I've been keepping an eye "Days of Our Lives" & "One Life to Live". For "Days", I've been reading the spoiler page(see link), and Jan is wanting back her ex, Shawn. However, Shawn is in love with Belle, so Jan will have to get her out of the way. (I'm thinking tied to a chair in a basement, wearing the lingerie she is getting for Christmans.) We'll she how and when this actually unfolds. Last week on "OLTL", the cops came up with a theory that Flash may be the next victim of the Music Box Strangler. She has a police escort, but isn't to happy about it. With the bondage on "Rebeca" I haven't watched since Thursday so I'm not sure where the story is now. I'm predicting Flash ditching her escort, getting handgagged by the killer, and tussed up in a car trunk. (This would be where Van posts glamour pics of the two girls. <g>) |
| G-MaN |
| gman22471@yahoo.com |
| http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/SoapScoops.html |
| Tuesday December 23 23:35:22 2003 Here's a move I'd like to see |
| I don't think it's available on video, unfortunately. The English title is A Man Called Dagger. |
| Malasfan |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3373136133&category=25472 |
| Tuesday December 23 23:37:56 2003 Re: unsatisfied? Always want more! |
| Historian wrote:
> > > IIRC, she was tied to an archair. Armchair ties > usually involve the armrests.If anybody knows of any that > don't, let me know. > It is not like the only chair in the studio was an arm chair. They picked it because that is what they wanted. In almost every other scene her hands are tied behind her. Why an arm chair here? The scene had the potential to be somewhat real. If you watch, she could have pulled the gag out herself |
| Tuesday December 23 23:39:47 2003 Law and Order SVU pops |
| For the record, Law and Order SVU had a scene with an attractive woman tied to a bed in an upper spreadeagle. Unfortunately, she was also in labor, and the clothes covering the lower half of her body were soaked with blood.
I think there might have been some closeups of just her upper torso with her wrists tied to the headboard, but I didnt' bother taping as the scene struck me as unattractive and unremarkable. |
| pat powers |
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