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| Sunday December 07 00:14:12 2003 Re: I guess it was appropriate after a fashion... |
| An Old Friend wrote:
> ...for the subject of favorite chair-ties to have come up > a few days ago, given that an actress who gave us a > couple of the best from the 1940s-Ellen Drew ("Buck > Benny Rides Again" from 1940, and "My Favorite > Spy" a couple of years later) > Was she ever seated in BUCK BENNY? I only recall her standing or leaning against a wall. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Sunday December 07 00:16:12 2003 America's Most Wanted |
| It's a little too late for this, but yesterday's episode of America's Most Wanted had a scene with an elderly woman bound and gagged with tape during a robbery. |
| Big Nasy |
| Sunday December 07 00:41:27 2003 Re: Att- Moderator?- Anything Goes? |
| Jay wrote:
> Recall rule was, SexTV mainstream enough to mention > scenes, but would you rather have the rope bondage > episode clips pointed out on the Anything Goes Page? I think we're ok for now. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday December 07 00:55:58 2003 Re: MISSING?? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Did anything turn up tonite on 1-800-MISSING? A preview > mentioned something about a missing female soldier or > something but I forgot to watch it. Nothing with the guest star, and it was a great setup to get Catarina a scene by the board. She enlisted in the Army in an undercover mission and was snooping around a bunch of times. Just the old confrontation at the end. The other missing girl turned up in the woods with no bondage. |
| Sunday December 07 01:18:27 2003 Re: MISSING?? |
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> (unsigned poster) wrote: > Nothing with the guest star, and it was a great setup to > get Catarina a scene by the board. She enlisted in the > Army in an undercover mission and was snooping around a > bunch of times. Actually, I just finished scanning my tape and there WAS a scene in Saturday's episode, a blink and you miss it one though. At the 42 minute mark, Catarina has a dream that she's tied to a tree and executed. Very quick shot of her bound hands (behind the tree) as the camera quickly tilts up to her terrified face. Start taping when you see her standing alone at attention and saluting, that's when she dozes off and has the brief dream. |
| CM |
| Sunday December 07 01:46:48 2003 Ellen Drew |
| > > couple of the best from the 1940s-Ellen Drew
> ("Buck > > Benny Rides Again" from 1940, and "My > Favorite > > Spy" a couple of years later) > > > > Was she ever seated in BUCK BENNY? I only recall her > standing or leaning against a wall. Biff, that's the way I recall it as well. Ellen Drew's scene from "My Favorite Spy" is a classic! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Sunday December 07 01:51:08 2003 General Hospital |
| Mark C, thanks for those caps. Unfortunately I missed the scene, but I will get the rest of it. Does anyone know when it will be rerun on Soapnet? It looks like a great scene! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Sunday December 07 02:24:47 2003 CASE FILE added |
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Susan Saint James from McMILLAN AND WIFE "Man Without a Face" |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Sunday December 07 02:47:47 2003 Re: Att- Moderator?- Anything Goes? |
| The Moderator wrote:
> I think we're ok for now. Okay, thanx. _______ Re: the SexTV show where this brought up with Brinke Stevens. Along with Slave Girls From Beyond Infinity, scenes shown. She [roughly] "found her scenes erotic", and "someone had asked if she drawn to those type of scripts", which she "thinking about it, figured she was" _________ http://toronto.citytv.com/ the website if the Homepage Link doesn't work. Choose "The Show" Then click "Peepshow Archives". Then go for Season 5. The Brinke Stevens talking about it ep, will be ep: "Dark Desires: Sexuality in the Horror Film" (5.15) You may be able to play with those new Downloads and see if bring up her talking about it. _________ The Japanese Rope Bondage ep, will be, ep: "Japanese Rope Bondage, Surrealism & Steve Diet Goedde" (5.1) Interesting caps there. |
| Jay |
| http://www.sextelevision.net/show/index.asp |
| Sunday December 07 04:21:46 2003 Just a few more quick caps |
| A couple scenes from Jay L. that I judged too brief to clip, but worth a few caps: Tushka Bergen in The Big Easy "Moscow On The Mississippi", and Jane Merrow in Secret Agent "The Man Who Wouldn't Talk." |
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| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/ |
| Sunday December 07 09:22:07 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| What an interesting photo!
I captured and enhanced it with a view to adding some sort of muffler, and discovered it's not as it appears at first glance. Firstly, Ms Rigg has a cushion or pad under her bum and one under the small of her back. Secondly, some of the ropes look a bit odd. The one across her throat is tucked UNDER a sleeper (crosstie) at the left end, and disappears into the ballast at the right, with no stake visible. It just stops, in a blurred patch that looks rather like an imperfect computer graphics clone, and it has no shadow over most of its length. As this was long before computer retouching, it may be a studio addition, possibly a paste-up blended in with airbrush. In short, there's quite a lot of retouching. I'll work on this image at leisure, adding stakes or staples and tightening things up a bit. :-) Stills are usually taken before the action shoot, while the crew is setting up. It seems likely that a classic pose was photographed, then when they came to shoot the scene it was decided Mrs Peel had too much freedom of movement tied across the narrow track, and it would be more dramatic to tie her along the rails and let the train run over her feet first, literally prolonging the agony. A Freudian overtone has also been suggested, and there may be such an element, but I think track width was probably the very practical, overriding (groan) consideration in tying Emma lengthways, there being simply more attachment points that way. The scene was shot, IIRC, in late autumn or winter on the 15-inch gauge Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway, and the locomotive (still in service) is one of two with American styling - a neat homage to the old cliffhangers. Though primarily a seasonal tourist line, the RH&D is also used as public transport by the locals. |
| Mad Dan |
| Sunday December 07 10:01:50 2003 SheSpies: "Damsels in De-Stress" Help? |
| Hello,
Does anyone happen to have any vidcaps of Natasha Henstridge's scene in this episode? I missed the original airing and there having been any repeat airings in my area. |
| RayJ |
| Sunday December 07 10:41:04 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| > The one
> across her throat is tucked UNDER a sleeper (crosstie) at > the left end, and disappears into the ballast at the > right, with no stake visible.As this was long before computer retouching, it > may be a studio addition, possibly a paste-up blended in > with airbrush. But other, more widely distributed photos from other angles also show the 'throat rope.' > It seems likely that a classic > pose was photographed, then when they came to shoot the > scene it was decided it would be > more dramatic to tie her along the rails and let the > train run over her feet first, literally prolonging the > agony. Actually, I just took a look at the clip, and the train is coming at her head first. How much do I have to write before I can just post this? |
| ss |
| Sunday December 07 11:11:16 2003 Picture Claire |
| Nice! I don't recall seeing much discussion of this movie here, so I thought I should mention it. Very convincing electroplast around-the-head tape gag, slightly less convincing but still more-than-passable chair bondage, and quite possibly the best "trying to get to and successfully utilize the phone" sequence I've seen to date. (Yes, that even includes Mission Impossible "The Question," though I realize that this will be sacrilege to some.) Tipping the chair over, mmmphing like crazy, dialing with her chin...it's got the works, people.
The clip is up in my member area, though I'll also add it to the free-zone queue for one of these weeks. |
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| Raffish |
| http://www,abductor.com/raffish/ |
| Sunday December 07 11:23:50 2003 christina aguilera |
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This post was deleted. Poster: colonel bob denard Reason: HUGE image. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday December 07 11:29:59 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| ss wrote:
> How much do I have to write before I can just post this? Instead of adding blather, try trimming some of the stuff you quoted. I still always have the option of deleting posts that don't properly snip, even if you sneak past the posting tool. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday December 07 11:50:29 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| > Instead of adding blather, try trimming some of the
> stuff you quoted. I still always have the option of > deleting posts that don't properly snip, even if you > sneak past the posting tool. I trimmed as I much as I could without loosing the point I was commenting on. |
| Sunday December 07 12:00:58 2003 Re: MISSING?? |
| CM wrote:
> Actually, I just finished scanning my tape and there WAS > a scene in Saturday's episode, a blink and you miss it > one though. At the 42 minute mark, Catarina has a dream > that she's tied to a tree and executed. Ooops. The dangers of the old fast-forwarding trick. Too bad she didn't gag herself in the dream. |
| Sunday December 07 12:01:04 2003 Re: Just a few more quick caps |
| Raffish wrote:
> A couple scenes from Jay L. that I judged too brief to > clip, I'm just curious, exactly how brief is too brief? |
| John Quincannon |
| Sunday December 07 12:28:45 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| ss wrote:
> > The one > > across her throat is tucked UNDER a sleeper > (crosstie) at > > the left end, and disappears into the ballast at the > But other, more widely distributed photos from other > angles also show the 'throat rope.' It's probably just pushed into the ballast, then. Do other shots show any form of anchorage? > > > Actually, I just took a look at the clip, and the train > is coming at her head first. Ooops, my bad. Sorry. It was a very long time ago, and I must have got confused by correspondence on this site a year or two ago about the loco supposedly representing a phallus(!) When I saw the scene in my callow youth, I didn't rate the tie-up very highly, and was more interested in the loco! Head first makes sense cinematically, because you can get the approaching train and the damsel's facial reactions in the same shot. Undercranking recommended, for obvious reasons... :-) |
| Mad Dan |
| Sunday December 07 14:27:27 2003 The Missing |
| Is there a reason why this still is not in the database? The movie has several bound and gagged women and it still hasn't been added? I for one want to know what happened in it. |
| Sunday December 07 14:44:05 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| > It's probably just pushed into the ballast, then. Do
> other shots show any form of anchorage? Can't find the picture, but while looking around Avengers sites, I found this: translation: The Minikillers (1966-1969) This legendary series of short episodes (filmed in Super 8), stars Diana Rigg in the role of Emma Peel, only ever wearing a bikini or a micro-mini skirt depending on the scene. - an episode in black and white filmed in Germany (1966) - Four episodes color filmed in Spain. (1969) Total duration of the five episodes: approximately 40 minutes. Anyone ever heard about or seen it? |
| ss |
| Sunday December 07 15:28:07 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I trimmed as I much as I could without loosing the point > I was commenting on. I don't believe that to be correct. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday December 07 15:31:41 2003 Re: The Missing |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Is there a reason why this still is not in the database? Most of us haven't seen it. Those that have need to get it in. I know at least a couple reported seeing it. |
| Brian R |
| Sunday December 07 16:14:33 2003 Re: The Missing |
| Brian R wrote:
> Most of us haven't seen it. Those that have need to get > it in. I know at least a couple reported seeing it. Haven't seen it, dude. Can't help you. I don't pay theater prices just to see bondage. The one possible exception was "Wrong Turn", but I was also remotely interested in the movie itself. On another semi-related note, I rented "Scotland, Pa." recently. No female bondage, but there is a point when Maura Tierney says, "Take the fucking gag off!" If only she were saying it through her own cleave gag (sigh) ... |
| gasface |
| Sunday December 07 17:23:10 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| ss wrote:
> The Minikillers (1966-1969) > > This legendary series of short episodes (filmed in Super > 8), stars Diana Rigg in the role of Emma Peel, only ever > wearing a bikini or a micro-mini skirt depending on the > scene. > - an episode in black and white filmed in Germany (1966) Never heard of them either but I did run across a page that has some info about them. Apparently a French "Avengers" fan club once offered them on vhs. She also did one called "Diadem". I'd love to be able to track these down. |
| CM |
| http://theavengers.tv/doomsday/diadem.htm |
| Sunday December 07 17:46:51 2003 Tracking Mrs. Peel |
| I found a site that features the Steed-to-the-Rescue! version of the Diana Rigg/Stapleford RR photo op. I've always assumed both ends of Emma's neck rope were spiked to ties, but who knows? It looks pretty taut. Must be tied to *something*. :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.fsmr.org.uk/avengers.html |
| Sunday December 07 18:07:11 2003 Nancy Drew |
| Hope this is not off topic ,but i was just thinking to myself the other day ,how the most disappointing tv series and movies ever in terms of bondage scenes had to be the nancy drew adaptations .For the sheer volume of full treatments miss drew received in the books ,you would have thought the many different adaptations over the years would have had a fair smattering ,but from the bonita granville movies in the 40s through pamela sue in the seventies and that nickelodeon ,series in the nineties ,i can not remember one decent scene.Did i miss a scene ?
Renegadekid2003 |
| Renegadekid2003 |
| Sunday December 07 18:57:56 2003 UNDERCOVER CHRISTMAS possibility |
| My digital cable menu gives the following description for the new TV Movie UNDERCOVER CHRISTMAS, which airs on CBS at 8 p.m. CST tonight.
"Jami Gertz stars in this holiday Cinderella tale about a free-spirited cocktail waitress who is forced to spend her yuletide in hiding under the protection of an uptight, but handsome FBI agent." These storylines don't ~always~ pan out, but it may still be worth taping. One programming note: Regions of the country where CBS aired a late afternoon football game can expect the movie to begin approximately 15-30 minutes late depending on game time spill over, so keep that in mind when programming VCRs. |
| KEVIN |
| Sunday December 07 19:50:20 2003 Re: UNDERCOVER CHRISTMAS possibility |
| KEVIN wrote:
> One programming note: Regions of the country where CBS > aired a late afternoon football game can expect the movie > to begin approximately 15-30 minutes late depending on > game time spill over or 5 1/2 hours late here in Atlanta, where Falcons are playing in primetime. So any heads up would be appreciated. :) |
| G-MaN |
| Sunday December 07 20:05:04 2003 Re: Tracking Mrs. Peel |
| In this view, you can just see a small spike or tent peg buried in the ballast alongside the sleeper, so the rope is genuine. The other end has a possible knot visible in the first pic, but it's very indistinct.
I could have sworn that was 'Dr Syn' from the RHDR; it's a very similar engine, but seeing it again in close-up, there are more British-style features. Given the number of preserved steam lines in the UK, we should be overrun with damsel-on-the track scenes! :-) |
| Mad Dan |
| Sunday December 07 20:14:50 2003 Re: Nancy Drew |
| Renegadekid2003 wrote:
> For the sheer volume of > full treatments miss drew received in the books ,you > would have thought the many different adaptations over > the years would have had a fair smattering ,but from the > bonita granville movies in the 40s through pamela sue in > the seventies and that nickelodeon ,series in the > nineties ,i can not remember one decent scene.Did i miss a scene ? You didn't miss a scene. But Nancy Drew isn't all that exception. Check out 9 1/2 Weeks and the Gor novels. Blowing the bondage opportunities is par for the course, big time, in bondage films. Hell, even the Collector novel had a very strong bondage scene -- the one where Ferdy "poses Miranda like the women in the bondage mags he buys and photographs her like that." Never made it to the movie -- apparently they substituted the pretty but lame (bondage-wise) bathtub attempted escape scene for it. If it weren't for the Story of O and Perils of Gwendoline the mainstream bondage canon would be totally screwed. |
| Pat Powers |
| Sunday December 07 20:31:58 2003 "10-8" Comes Thru |
| Looked up at the TV and saw a woman with her hands cuffed above her and tape gagged. That's in the frst half & the show isn't over yet. |
| G-MaN |
| Sunday December 07 20:47:06 2003 Re: Just a few more quick caps |
| John Quincannon wrote:
> I'm just curious, exactly how brief is too brief? My general rule of thumb is that, if it's under ten seconds after editing, it's not worth the trouble, though I've made exceptions for a few unusually spectacular scenes. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday December 07 20:52:04 2003 Re: "10-8" Comes Thru |
| G-MaN wrote:
> Looked up at the TV and saw a woman with her hands cuffed > above her and tape gagged. That's in the frst half & > the show isn't over yet. Thanks! TiVo's set to go over here in the west, so I should be able to help out with caps/clips if you missed anything. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday December 07 21:27:01 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| CM wrote:
> > The Minikillers (1966-1969) > > > > - an episode in black and white filmed in Germany > (1966) > > She also did one called "Diadem". I'd love to > be able to track these down. I've heard of them but never seen either. I appears that Diadem is the earlier German film. Somebody is currently selling VHS copies them seperately on Ebay. The description there for 'Minikillers' mentions that Rigg gets tied up while wearing the bikini. I'm not sure if this is database worthy, as it's hard to tell if these can be deemed 'mainstream' given their mysterious release histories. |
| iD |
| Sunday December 07 21:41:50 2003 We need a Vcr alerts page! |
| Record number: 9472
Title: 24 Medium: TV Series Actress: Elisha Cuthbert Description: Episode: 3.7 (7:00-8:00pm) In the previews, Elisha Cuthbert is handgagged. She may be tied up in the episode as well. |
| Baffled |
| Sunday December 07 21:47:45 2003 Re: The Missing |
| Brian R wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Is there a reason why this still is not in the > database? > > > Those that have need to get > it in. I did see it, but there was so much that needs to be described for a proper entry and it's all pretty fuzzy in my aging memory at this point. I wouldn't be able to do much better than "Several young women were bound and (sort of) gagged in various scenes" until I see the DVD. Of course the IMDB would help with the names of some of the actresses. |
| Rich McGill |
| Sunday December 07 22:03:44 2003 Re: "10-8" Comes Thru |
| Raffish wrote:
> Thanks! TiVo's set to go over here in the west, so I > should be able to help out with caps/clips if you missed > anything. ooo that will be good to see. any word on who it is? |
| Bowers |
| Sunday December 07 22:17:45 2003 Re: "10-8" Comes Thru |
| Bowers wrote:
> ooo that will be good to see. any word on who it is? It's just a minor guest star. She is pulled over by a cop, who asks her to step out of the car. He then forces her into the back of his cruiser. At the 26 minute mark the cops go storming into her house and find her sitting on the floor with her hands raised above her and cuffed to the footboard of her bed. Her legs are wrapped in ducttape from her ankles to her knees, and she has a tape gag wrapped once around her head.(Which the cop just pulls down.) |
| G-MaN |
| Sunday December 07 22:24:32 2003 Re: Diana Rigg Photo Op. |
| >The description there for 'Minikillers' mentions
> that Rigg gets tied up while wearing the bikini. Actually it says she is featured 'tied up and wearing a bikini' so its a little ambiguous. Sounds interesting! No one's seen it? |
| ss |
| Sunday December 07 22:42:24 2003 Re: "10-8" Comes Thru |
| G-MaN wrote:
> It's just a minor guest star. Was she good looking? |
| Ted |
| Sunday December 07 22:42:54 2003 Re: We need a Vcr alerts page! |
| Baffled wrote:
> In the previews, Elisha Cuthbert is handgagged. She may > be tied up in the episode as well. The previews show she is b/g'd. |
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