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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Thursday December 11 00:04:39 2003 AOH Central Update |
| Just wanted to say that I've posted 14 new pics at AOH Central (6 vanilla, 8 nude/topless) today. If anyone hasnt visited the club in a while, there have been many more pictures added in the past months. Some are from Hank Hobbs' yahoo clubs while others have been gathered from the far reaches of the web. You have to get a free Lycos ID to enter the club.
For those who havent heard of the club, it focuses on arms overhead (AOH) bondage pictures. |
| MAV |
| http://clubs.lycos.com/live/AUTH/Directory/CommunityHome.asp?CG=bij0r8g20qh47bjpg9hgeup5sg |
| Thursday December 11 00:19:05 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| > Well, for me, I'd have to say that a knotted cleave will
> always be my fave, regardless of damsel: I always prefer > to see the lips. So how do you feel about either medical/micropore tape gags or microfoam gags? You can see the lips through micropore (Earth Girls Are Easy my fave example) or they mould to microfoam and therefor the shape of the lips is obvious (Okavanga my personal fave with this one). OK new topic. Fave micropore and microfoam tape gag scenes. |
| Paul S |
| Thursday December 11 00:27:56 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| Paul S wrote:
> > Well, for me, I'd have to say that a knotted cleave > will > > always be my fave, regardless of damsel: I always > prefer > > to see the lips. > > So how do you feel about either medical/micropore tape > gags or microfoam gags? > For me, tape's tape. It's OK, but runs a distant third or fourth behind knotted cleave, cleave with packing, plain ol' cleave, ball, or tight OTM. Note that all but the last are specifically invasive, which is probably at the heart of it somewhere. |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound |
| Thursday December 11 00:44:00 2003 Re: another page |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I am looking for a page like this. With people like are > here where we can discuss mainstream issues that are not > in movies or tv yet I'm sorry that the page doesn't meet your needs, but there's nothing that is going to happen with it in the near term. After I address some other issues, like where we will be hosted and database software and such, I plan to move ahead with the registration system. One of the features that I plan to offer will be usenet-style message filtering by Name or Title. This should help those that want to use AG for specific purposes, by allowing them to filter out posts they find objectionable. I have no timetable for this. |
| Brian R |
| Thursday December 11 00:56:02 2003 Re: another page |
| > No, not really.
> > I am looking for a page like this. With people like are > here where we can discuss mainstream issues that are not > in movies or tv yet Well, how do your concerns related to mainstream movies or TV? I mean, what do you want to discuss with people whose primary interest is media bondage that does not involve media bondage? How does it relate to media bondage? |
| Pat Powers |
| Thursday December 11 01:16:14 2003 Re: another page |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> Well, how do your concerns related to mainstream movies > or TV? I mean, what do you want to discuss with people > whose primary interest is media bondage that does not > involve media bondage? How does it relate to media bondage? I guess I'm a bit hazy on that too. I thought the original topics in question were "real-life" things. |
| Brian R |
| Thursday December 11 03:12:27 2003 Recent Deleted Entry |
| Record number: 9477
Title: unknown Medium: TV Series Actress: brooke shields Description: Episode: unknown unknown |
| Jay |
| Thursday December 11 03:53:44 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| Del wrote:
> When watching DiD scenes, I have always wondered why > certain types of gags were used in a particular scene or > on a particular actress. Why do some get cleave-gagged > while others get tape-gagged? Also, does a particular > gag look better on an actress (cleave, tape, OTM)? > > It is my view that actresses with high cheek bones (i.e. > Sandra Bullock) look best sporting a tight cleave-gag > while actresses with full lips (i.e. Renee Zellweger) > would look great with a tape-gag. Of course, some look > great gagged in any manner. How does everyone else feel > about this and what gags would be the most appropriate on > your favorite DiD actress/celebrity? Just curious. Unfortunately, I can't contribute too well to this discussion, as I only like cloth cleave gags (apart from the ball gags which appear in the mainstream media too seldom for my taste). I prefer an actress with protruding lips and bulging cheeks over a tight, but not to thin, gag. |
| PH |
| Thursday December 11 04:02:21 2003 Re: 24 update |
| Bindher wrote:
> I pretty much agree with you on this one. She did some of > the best "gag noises" I've heard on a > mainstream TV scene. I thought she did an outstanding Mmmphing job in the first season of 24 when she was kidnapped. I posted that here when someone else posted to say her scene was nothing great, and no one ever responded. |
| Thursday December 11 04:55:59 2003 Re: another page |
| > > I am looking for a page like this. With people like
> are > > here where we can discuss mainstream issues that are > not > > in movies or tv yet > what do you want to discuss with people > whose primary interest is media bondage that does not > involve media bondage? How does it relate to media bondage? I am not sure what you're looking for but I have a yahoo group with a space for messages. It is moderated and only open to those who fill out their yahoo profile correctly, but it's free. Hope this helps. -val |
| valkyrie |
| valkyries78@yahoo.com |
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CASUALBONDAGE |
| Thursday December 11 08:49:26 2003 The Big Easy "Yellow Queen In The Fires Of Hell" |
| Another short but sweet scene from Jay L...in preparation for the very looong scene that arrived from him yesterday. (This one's going to take some serious effort...)
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| Raffish |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/ |
| Thursday December 11 10:35:42 2003 Re: What Type of Gag to Use? |
| Paul S wrote:
> > Well, for me, I'd have to say that a knotted cleave > will > > always be my fave, regardless of damsel: I always > prefer > > to see the lips. > > So how do you feel about either medical/micropore tape > gags or microfoam gags? > > You can see the lips through micropore (Earth Girls Are > Easy my fave example) or they mould to microfoam and > therefor the shape of the lips is obvious (Okavanga my > personal fave with this one). > > OK new topic. Fave micropore and microfoam tape gag scenes. Well, this may not exactly be microfoam, just white tape, but on Fuzzweb's site there's a fantastic series of caps from an episode of "My Pal Joey," where the DID is tied to a bed and gagged with a tape that molds around the shape of her lips....stunning! "Okavango" is also a huge favorite of mine, too Is that what you're talking about? |
| John Quincannon |
| Thursday December 11 11:06:06 2003 Re: "24" feet question |
| Pantyhose Lover wrote:
> In the caps I have seen, Elisha has her feet taped. It > looks like she's wearing a business suit. Is she wearing > pantyhose? Can you see them in another scene? Please help > me!!!! You can't really tell if she's wearing hose or not, but even if she is, you never she them because she's wearing suit pants. Now Michelle, on the other hand, is dressed very nice for a DID scenario. She is wearing a short busines skirt, hose, and heels. Plus, a somewhat low neckline tight white shirt under a suit top. She's also pretty good looking herself. I honestly would love to see her get the full treatment in this season more than any other actress. |
| Cleaveher |
| Thursday December 11 11:54:42 2003 Re: Raffish's Post |
| Raffish wrote:
> scene from Jay L...in preparation > for the very looong scene that arrived from him > yesterday. (This one's going to take some serious effort...) Just to add here, going by mailing time into US. Probably be this one, as it aired first? Record number: 5437 Title: Ärztin in Angst (1995) Medium: TV Movie Actress: Leslie Malton ________ Du hast mir meine Familie geraubt: with Katharina Abt, Holy Grail- Cleave gag fest aired a few days later. Say another week before it arrives in the US? Should have warned you Raffish, when rumour gets around a Holy Grail scene aired, the "crowd gets into it". Figure this post will save you answering some e-mails. |
| Jay |
| Thursday December 11 12:44:48 2003 Re: Raffish's Post |
| Jay wrote:
when rumour gets around a Holy Grail scene aired, the Got my copy Jay, and to confirm - this 'IS' the holy grail scene for cleave gag fans - you're gonna like this one girls. |
| Major John |
| Thursday December 11 13:14:15 2003 Re: Raffish's Post |
| Jay wrote:
...... Yes, something to look forward to. "Ärtzin in Angst" and "Du hast mir meine Familie Geraubt" are among the best German scenes I know. (Caps from both on HtF's site) |
| Per |
| Thursday December 11 13:44:07 2003 Get Together |
| To celebrate the 'Canuck Connection' , I'm going to host a mini get-together for the lads at the Wheat Sheaf pub at King & Bathurst / Toronto - possible dates are Dec19/20th
Let me know which night is best for you and out of towners are welcome to 'rough it' on the floor at L Productions. You are forbidden to bring money - on the house! Major John |
| Major John |
| silent_night_022003@yahoo.com |
| http://www.fuzzweb.org |
| Thursday December 11 14:22:23 2003 Re: Raffish's Post |
| Per wrote:
> "Ärtzin in Angst" and "Du hast mir > meine Familie Geraubt" are among the best German > scenes I know. > > (Caps from both on HtF's site) Only too true. "Ärztin in Angst" is also one of the rare movies where the same actress gets tape- and later also cleave gagged, scenes are only a bit dark if I remember correctly. "Du hast mir meine Familie geraubt" I would call category "As Good As It Gets" - of course that's a personal opinion! Damsel Katharina Abt needed only two shows (see DB) to make it into my personal Hall of Fame! Another one that I hope gets repeated and/or makes it across the pond is this one: Record number: 4812 Title: Neonnächte - Der U-Bahn-Schlitzer (1999) aka Neon Nights Medium: TV Movie Actress: Marie Baeumer Description: Excellent scene in this German made-for-TV production, occurring during the final climax. Polizeikommissar Beate Stein, wearing a pinstripe suit and a white blouse, is questioning a witness in a murder case, who is working in a subway control center. Too late she realizes that he himself is the killer. He knocks her out with a wrench, then picks up a roll of silver duct tape and begins to tie her up. We get to see only the result, but it's impressive: She is thoroughly tape gagged, and has her hands bound behind her back. More tape around her upper body, her thighs and her legs above the ankles. Damsel is now carried over the shoulder to an empty subway train (nobody around, it's early morning) and driven to a junction in the tunnels. She has regained consciousness and adds some mmmmphing to the scene, the killer major gloating. At the junction she is put on the tracks, in front of a following train. Pulled away from the tracks literally in the last second. Have fun, all of you! |
| Peter de K |
| Thursday December 11 14:29:15 2003 Arztin In Angst |
| Jay's guess is correct -- well, after all, he did send the tape -- and such a scene it is. Was making three clips and a full six dozen caps overkill on my part? I suppose you folks can decide for yourselves, because here they be. |
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| Raffish |
| raffish@abductor.com |
| http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/ |
| Thursday December 11 14:42:06 2003 Angel's Fred Bound and Gagged (if they stick with the script) in 2 months |
| First off, this is a little sketchy, but it comes from spoiler sites that are extremely accurate. We should know more next month.
I know there's a passionate contingent out there hoping for a first-ever full-treatment scene with Angel's Fred (the adorable, winsome Amy Acker). The word is that we MIGHT get one, if the spoilers accurately represent the script, and if the director sticks with the script. Now we just have to bite our nails for exactly two months. The episode is 5.13, "Why We Fight." According to The WB's proposed schedule (Angel is in reruns at the moment), it should air Feb. 11, 2004. There are spoiler on two sites. SpoilerFix.com gives us this one: *** "Fred, wrists bound and looking battered, is sitting in a chair in Wesley’s office." *** SMGBoard.com gives us some more, and hopefully this is verbatim from the script: *** In the present day, Wesley walks in on a bound and GAGGED <emphaisis mine> Fred, while Angel receives an unexpected visitor in his penthouse. *** There's not much more for information, and of course, we all know how things can change in production. Apparently they're shooting this very episode this week, so a lot more info should spill out in upcoming weeks. Meanwhile, fingers crossed! |
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| Yeoman |
| http://spoilerfix.com |
| Thursday December 11 14:50:29 2003 The Handler on Friday (9 p.m. EST) |
| > > According to the link, the next episode should be
> > interesting. > > "The Handler" also has a decent premise on > Friday. Two agents, one guy and one female (Anna > Belknap?) get abducted and are held hostage in the woods. One clip appeared to show the female holding her hands in front, possibly tied. Caught a TV promo for this episode, and yes, that's Belknap. Additionally, one of the agents apparently gets taken away and later is discovered at least bound hand and foot and possibly gagged. It's a super-brief glimpse and the CBS marketing people intentionally make it impossible to see the person's face or any features, which also is why I'm not sure if it's Belknap's character or the male agent. Certainly I'll be watching and holding out hope for the former. |
| Yeoman |
| Thursday December 11 14:53:20 2003 Re: The Handler on Friday |
| My mistake in previous post's title. It is on at 10 p.m. EST, as correctly noted in the VCR alert. |
| Yeoman |
| Thursday December 11 15:20:12 2003 Re: Angel's Fred Bound and Gagged (if they stick with the script) in 2 months |
| Good news, even if Amy is one of those actresses that I sort of go back and forth about... sometimes she just slays me, other times... eh.
BTW, I volunteered a while back to ensure all the "Angel" entries get in the DB, and I'll be sure not to miss this one! |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound |
| Thursday December 11 15:33:00 2003 Re: Angel's Fred Bound and Gagged (if they stick with the script) in 2 months |
| Texas Chainsaw Massacre sure didn't stick to the script but hopefully a TV script is different. |
| Thursday December 11 15:34:13 2003 Re: Angel's Fred Bound and Gagged (if they stick with the script) in 2 months |
| Jeb wrote:
> Good news, even if Amy is one of those actresses that I > sort of go back and forth about... sometimes she just > slays me, other times... eh. > I don't trust the WB in these situations, especially after the Rose McGowan fiasco last year. At least "Angel" is not afraid to gag its stars, so hopefully it'll deliver. |
| Thursday December 11 15:47:22 2003 Trace possibility |
| Missing female doctor on "Without a Trace" tonight. They're overdue for something decent. |
| Thursday December 11 15:58:22 2003 Re: Trace possibility |
| > Missing female doctor on "Without a Trace"
> tonight. They're overdue for something decent. Especially with Poppy |
| Thursday December 11 16:15:20 2003 Comic Marketing |
| Naturally a bondage cover was needed to spice up a lame title like 'The Thing That Grew' |
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| Thursday December 11 16:18:01 2003 Ärtzin in Angst |
| Wow clip 3 on Raffish site is one for the ages! A classic!
Where would we be without the little Irishman? Thanks! |
| Thursday December 11 16:32:25 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| > Where would we be without the little Irishman?
> ...and the burly Canadian Jay?? |
| Michael Fitzpatrick |
| Thursday December 11 16:49:02 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Where would we be without the little Irishman? Hrm. I can't possibly answer that question without knowing who the little Irishman is. Clarification, perhaps? |
| Raffish |
| Thursday December 11 17:00:01 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| > Hrm. I can't possibly answer that question without
> knowing who the little Irishman is. Clarification, perhaps? Let's thanks the Germans too for some extremely lengthy B&G scenes |
| Patrick Fitzmichael |
| Thursday December 11 17:07:31 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| Have there been many Irish or Scottish scenes or are they lumped in with the British ones?
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| Ben Dover and Phil McCrackin |
| Thursday December 11 18:04:36 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Wow clip 3 on Raffish site is one for the ages! A > classic! > No kidding! Thick cloth cleave tied over long hair, applied onscreen... and the OTS and kiss by the captor at the end just icing on the cake. Definitely moves into my top ten. |
| Jeb |
| Thursday December 11 18:23:41 2003 FUGZY'S CHRISTMAS LIST |
| OK Bondage Buzzards, I know you've been waiting. so here is Fugzarro's Christmas Bondage list. Dames the Fugman wants to see get the treatment in no particulair order.
1. The babe who plays Nicole on "Days of our lives: 2. McEnzie whayever her name is in "mutant X" 3. Rebecca Herbst (long overdue) "general Hospital" 4. Julie Bowen "ed" 5. Faith Ford and/or Kelly Ripa "Hope n' faith" 6. Kathyn Morris "cold case" 7. the chick on "tarzan" as well as Lucy lawless 8> Laren Graham "gilmore girls" and many more, to many to mention |
| FUGZARRO |
| Thursday December 11 18:25:20 2003 24 |
| Re: Elisha Cuthbert's tape gag scene. Been there done that. How about a tight cleve once in a while!! |
| donald sutherland |
| Thursday December 11 18:31:35 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| I just watched all three clips again. I revise my estimation-- top five, easy, if not higher. |
| Jeb |
| Thursday December 11 19:00:19 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| By the way, Ärtzin in Angst's Leslie Malton was evidently also in a flick called "Kidnapped" (with Danny Glover and Dennis Quaid). Any idea if it lives up to the title in the way we might hope?
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| Jeb |
| Thursday December 11 19:47:27 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| Jeb wrote:
> I just watched all three clips again. I revise my > estimation-- top five, easy, if not higher. I agree wholeheartedly! This scene is fantastic, and I don't even LIKE handcuffs all that much! |
| John Quincannon |
| Thursday December 11 20:11:10 2003 Survivor CBS 7:10pm central time 12-11-Thu |
| The 3 women have their hands tied in front &
their ankles tied to stakes with ropes. At least one is biting through the ropes. |
| Rich |
| bindherupx@yahoo.com |
| http://bindherupx.net |
| Thursday December 11 20:58:14 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| Patrick Fitzmichael wrote:
> Let's thanks the Germans too for some extremely lengthy > B&G scenes Yes. And, consider, Raffish put up 3 long clips. He got the best stuff, but the 3 clips still only covers app 50% of the whole scene. (There's a lot of discussion between him and her, he allows her to reach to the table with food after she promised to let him film her, then she eats, and there's the long failed escape attempt after she kicked out the metal bar in the bed) My only complaint is why the hell Leslie does not take off the gag and scream her lungs out when she is left alone on the bed with her hands cuffed in front. |
| Per |
| Thursday December 11 21:30:20 2003 Local Stuff |
| Sorry about that this is late, but there have been two local offerings that I wanted to mention.
For its "Stoogapaploza" 3 Stooges offering the weekend after Thanksgiving, WCIU TV in Chicago showed "leftovers", Stooge shorts with footage or plotlines from previous short. In the opening intro, host Rich Koz ade footreferences and as he said "trussed chicken", the lovely and versitile Christine MacEntyre B&G and menaced by a guy wielding somthing sharp. Later, the short "Of Cash and Hash" was shown with said scene and Christine shucking of the rope and gag (the previous "Shivering Sherlocks, only shows her B&G) The other was a feature concering "Urinetown" in the Chicago Tribune's Arts section. The feature had a photo of and actress in a chair B&G. Her hands were tied in front with thick ropes and ankles tied, also with thick rope. I don't know if it was comical effect or to the let the people in the back row see the rope, but I liked the pic. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner. Sorry. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Thursday December 11 23:20:17 2003 Re: Ärtzin in Angst |
| Per wrote:
> Yes. And, consider, Raffish put up 3 long clips. He got > the best stuff, but the 3 clips still only covers app 50% > of the whole scene. (There's a lot of discussion between > him and her, he allows her to reach to the table with > food after she promised to let him film her, then she > eats, and there's the long failed escape attempt after > she kicked out the metal bar in the bed) True...and I hope that my omissions don't seriously bother anyone. I always endeavor to cater to the majority of tastes, but extended dialogue scenes where no bondage is visable -- and they very much do exist in this film -- still tend to be a low priority for me. Likewise for all that running around with hands cuffed in front, but otherwise unrestrained. |
| Raffish |
| Thursday December 11 23:27:16 2003 Re: Survivor scene |
| What was the deal with the three women tied up on Survivor? Why were they tied up? |
| Pat Powers |
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