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Friday December 12 00:10:13 2003
A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
I think I've come up with a new wrinkle on a topic that's been done to death:

Which A-list actresses are mostly likely to show up in a full-treatment scene next?

The actresses to choose from are:

Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore, Jodie Foster, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Anniston, Renee Zellweger, Nicole Kidman, Halle Berry, Kirsten Dunst

Now, these actresses are not my personal faves. The first eight are on the list of the top paid actresses in hollywood, commanding multimillion salaries for every film. Anniston is on the list because at an income of $36 million last year, Forbes magazine named her the most powerful woman in Hollywood. The next four are on the list of the ten most popular actresses in Hollywood -- I suspect they make millions, or close to it, on every picture, too.

None of these women has to do a movie -- they're well paid because the studios feel their presence in a film will put lots of butts in theater seats. If they like a script, the chances of its getting green-lighted by a studio goes way up.

So, when they do a scene, they're doing it by choice. Oh, they may feel they need to experiment to advance or maintain their place in hollywood, but that's just ego talking.

So, which of these women is most likely to be the next one to receive a full treatment scene?

Which will be the one to do a nude bondage scene, or a bondage scene involving consensual sex?

Which one is most likely to do a groundbreaking (for an A list actress) scene involving a ballgag, head harness, pantie gag, strict hogtie or other unusual bondage imagery?

Hmmm?
Pat Powers
Friday December 12 00:16:55 2003
Re: Survivor scene
Pat Powers wrote:

> What was the deal with the three women tied up on
> Survivor? Why were they tied up?

Ratings?

(Just a guess. Haven't yet watched, which as a confessed Survivor fanatic, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit.)
Raffish
Friday December 12 00:36:47 2003
Re: Arztin In Angst
Well not a "holy grail" for some of us ;-).

Some of us had satelite TV when it used to show British AND German channels and were lucky enough to get it on tape first time round.

And such a film too. The good doctors extended scenes are truly great and her actions when she first wakens up to find herself wrapped up are brilliant (going to scratch her nose and then realising her hands are cuffed and then realising she's gagged and trying to work the tape off for a few seconds). Great stuff.

Think I'll go and watch it ;-).
Paul S
Friday December 12 01:39:47 2003
Re: Survivor scene
Pat Powers wrote:

> What was the deal with the three women tied up on
> Survivor? Why were they tied up?

Third tie-up challenge this season.

I added it to the database:

Record number: 9519

Title: Survivor: Pearl Islands
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Lillian Morris, Darrah Johnson, Sandra Diaz-Twine

Description: Episode: "Mutiny" (7.13)

A reward challenge features bits of previous challenges, including the one listed in the database record 9325.

All contestants, three women and two men, start out with their hands tied in front to a short post, and their ankles tied. They have to free themselves before moving on to the next stage.

The bonds are colored plastic rope. Only very brief shots are seen as the various players gnaw and struggle with the knots. Obviously, no gags and guy alert.

Brian R
Friday December 12 01:55:32 2003
Re: Arztin In Angst
Paul S wrote:

> Well not a "holy grail" for some of us ;-).

You not alone, that why warned Raffish,
I only had a couple fellas asking about Arztin in Angst.

The "Holy Grail" is the Katharina Abt one. That got the crowd into it.
With it still on the way, didn't want my Buddy Raffish getting e-mails from fellas figuring it Katharina Abt he referring to.
Jay
Friday December 12 01:59:00 2003
Database entries
When adding entries based on someone's list, be sure to double check exact titles and actress names with the IMDB. This is definitely the case for those currently using my lists to add to the DB.

At the time, I wrote down stuff as best I could, it's (shock) not always accurate.



Brian R
Friday December 12 02:19:09 2003
Re: Arztin In Angst
Jay wrote:

> You not alone, that why warned Raffish,
> I only had a couple fellas asking about Arztin in Angst.

Revisionist history, I tell you.

I received no warnings...but then again, it's not as though I can see why I should be warned of gifts. :>
Raffish
Friday December 12 02:33:17 2003
Tru Calling
Definitely worth a look next week, as this is the first premise to look appealing. Tru investigates the upcoming murder of her ex-boyfriend because the evidence points to her. Preview showed her fending off an obsessed boyfriend.
Friday December 12 04:12:25 2003
Re: A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
Pat Powers wrote:

> Which A-list actresses are mostly likely to show up in a
> full-treatment scene next?
>
> The actresses to choose from are:
>
> Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore,
> Jodie Foster, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer
> Lopez, Jennifer Anniston, Renee Zellweger, Nicole Kidman,
> Halle Berry, Kirsten Dunst
>

Interesting question, Pat. Obviously, I'd love to see all of them in DID scenes, but I would say Berry and Dunst have the best chance because of "Catwoman" and "Spider-Man" respectively. Diaz has done a few already and unless she makes another "Charlie's Angels" movie, I doubt it'll happen again anytime soon. As for the others, none of them really do any action films or crime dramas, which carry the best chance for a scene.
Al
Friday December 12 05:36:42 2003
Re: A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
Pat Powers wrote:

> Which A-list actresses are mostly likely to show up in a
> full-treatment scene next?
>
> The actresses to choose from are:
>
> Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore,
> Jodie Foster, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer
> Lopez, Jennifer Anniston, Renee Zellweger, Nicole Kidman,
> Halle Berry and Kirsten Dunst.

Seeing how Diaz, Barrymore, Witherspoon, Kidman, Berry and Dunst have all done scenes where they're bound and gagged, there is a chance they may do more if the script calls for it.

Bullock missed hers in " A Time To Kill. " Don't hold your breath waiting to see her with her mouth gagged.

I'm sure any professional actress will say yes to a bondage scene ( consensual or DID ) if it's handled properly. Some are a bit reluctant to play someone they see as a helpless victim, though.
Crea
Friday December 12 06:22:54 2003
Re: Ärtzin in Angst
Raffish wrote:

> True...and I hope that my omissions don't seriously
> bother anyone.

Not at all for me. I did not mean to critisize, only to tell how long the scene really is.
Than you for putting the scene up Raffish (and thanks Jay)
Per
Friday December 12 07:28:25 2003
Jenni thread
Sounds like Jenni is looking for a discussion page similar to what Royler had some years ago where one could post messages of general bondage interest. As has been explained, Jenni, this page focuses on bondage in mainstream media which is a specific subset of the general bondage theme. I agree with some others that AG has become too polluted to be of much interest to most of us but such is the nature of an "unregulated" discussion page.

And I didn't think that the suggestion of such a moderated, general discussion page here would fly - our Moderator has enough on his plate. Surely someone out there in the bondage community has the time and ability (and appetite) to open such a page.
Mark O
Friday December 12 08:07:44 2003
Re: Jenni thread
Mark O wrote:

> Sounds like Jenni is looking for a discussion page
> similar to what Royler had some years ago where one could
> post messages of general bondage interest.

In fact, he re-started such a page within the past year, but it quickly fell into disuse.

> Surely someone out
> there in the bondage community has the time and ability (and appetite) to open such a page.

You'd think so, but the evidence (so far, anyway) doesn't suggest that. And, again, Lorelei and Abductor both have free message boards where such things can be discussed.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday December 12 09:08:56 2003
Re: A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
> > Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Cameron Diaz, Drew
> Barrymore,
> > Jodie Foster, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon,
> Jennifer
> > Lopez, Jennifer Anniston, Renee Zellweger, Nicole
> Kidman,
> > Halle Berry, Kirsten Dunst
> >
>
> Interesting question, Pat. Obviously, I'd love to see all
> of them in DID scenes, but I would say Berry and Dunst
> have the best chance because of "Catwoman" and
> "Spider-Man" respectively. Diaz has done a few
> already and unless she makes another "Charlie's
> Angels" movie, I doubt it'll happen again anytime
> soon. As for the others, none of them really do any
> action films or crime dramas, which carry the best chance for a scene.

I agree with you on Dunst -- she's definitely one of them more "junior" of the actresses on the list and might be willing to take some dramatic risks to further her career and get one of those $25 million paydays.

I dunno about Diaz. She's at the top of the mountain right now, which tends to make actresses pick "safe" (and boring) romantic comedy roles (like Julia Roberts). But Diaz also strikes me as a bit of a wild woman -- she might go off and do a Nicole Kidman and take some artistic risks just for the hell of it.

Meg Ryan is, I think, a real prospect for a scene. Note that she took a big risk recently in doing a fairly explicit (for mainstream) oral sex scene (receiving, not giving -- kinda figures). Wouldn't be surprised to see her get the full treatment, and I give her at least a shot at winding up in a ballgag and a spreader bar if she decides to get really risky.

Sandy Bulloch has said and done nothing to make me think she wouldn't go for the full treatment. In fact, she had a prolonged handcuff scene that included kissing while cuffed in her breakthrough movie, Speed. She might just have good associations with onscreen scenes. And her breakthrough movie was action/adventure, not romantic comedy. She might think about that if she has a couple of romantic comedy flops down the line.

I think Nicole Kidman and Reese Witherspoon are the most likely candidates for the full treatment, because they're both very talented, obviously like a challenge, and like to take risks.

I think Julia Roberts and Jodie Foster are the least likely to do a scene of any description. Roberts is unlikely to venture from her Princess Island of Romantic Comedies anytime soon, and considering the ungodly amounts of money she gets for her roles, I can't really blame her. And as for Foster, can you say "lesbian feminist"?
Pat Powers
Friday December 12 09:38:30 2003
mandy moore bound
did anyone see the osbournes christmas special on mtv. It featured a sketch featuring pop star Mandy Moore coming over to the Osbourne house to spread some christmas cheer to Jack and Kelly. Jack and Kelly are not interested and make things difficult for Mandy. In a brief scene Jack and Kelly are stringing popcorn, Jack says to Mandy who is off camera "isn't christmas fun" the camera then shows Mandy tied to a chair with the strings of popcorn. She struggles for a moment then breaks free. What's really weird is that when I saw Mandy Moore show up on the show I had a feeling she would end up in some kind of bondage. Anyone else have a bondage esp? MTV usually repeats their shows 4 or 5 hundred times so there shouldn't be any trouble seeing it.
spyder
Friday December 12 10:34:38 2003
Pirates of the Caribbean DVD
Anything of interest, such as in the deleted scenes?
Friday December 12 14:39:27 2003
Re: mandy moore bound
Can you describe the scene a little more in detail? Like where her hands were tied, were her feet tied, etc. Was she wearing any sexy outfits?

Thanks


FFF
Friday December 12 16:01:19 2003
Re: mandy moore bound
FFF wrote:

> Can you describe the scene a little more in detail? Like
> where her hands were tied, were her feet tied, etc. Was
> she wearing any sexy outfits?


More importantly, was she gagged?


Friday December 12 16:05:56 2003
Re: mandy moore bound
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> FFF wrote:
>
> > Can you describe the scene a little more in detail?
> Like
> > where her hands were tied, were her feet tied, etc.
> Was
> > she wearing any sexy outfits?
>
>
> More importantly, was she gagged?
>

no gag. She had her arms at her sides and the popcorn strings were loosley wrapped around her. Not what you would call a great scene.
Friday December 12 16:25:38 2003
Guiding Light
Harley (Beth Elhers) got caught snooping in a gym on Friday by the bad guy in the final minutes, but she was wired. I haven't been following this and I wouldn't expect anything but I'll be recording on Monday. Hopefully, he can get her out of the gym. Beth is long overdue for a new scene. Looking hot in a gym outfit, sweats and tight pink top.
Friday December 12 18:00:06 2003
Jen -One Life To Live
The "Music Box killer" (why ANYONE would want to kill a poor innocent music box is BEYOND me) was supposed to "attack" Jen (Jessica Morris)today.

I was sure it would be at the end of the episode and be a cliffhanger for Monday.

She is probably the one daytime actress i'd like to see get the full treatment most!

Hopefully she is too important to kill off but WooHoo would I like to se him make off with her & keep her hostage.
Any info??
Snowcat
Friday December 12 18:34:41 2003
Re: Jen -One Life To Live
Snowcat wrote:

> The "Music Box killer" (why ANYONE would want
> to kill a poor innocent music box is BEYOND me) was
> supposed to "attack" Jen (Jessica
> Morris)today.

You're right, it was the Friday cliffhanger ending, someone was trying to strangle Jen in the last five seconds. I taped it because the killer has been using a nice scarf to strangle beautiful dancers from behind. It's only a matter of time til they miss and accidently cleavegag a girl instead.
G-MaN
Friday December 12 19:10:52 2003
Days of Our Lives
This is another soap people may want to keep an eye on. Jan is stalking Shawn who is in love with Belle (Kirsten Storms) who just returned from Europe. So Jan is going to need to get Belle out of the way.

Kirsten use to do nothing for me, but since seeing her strip on a rooftop (on "Days", of course) a few months ago, I've added her to my top five soap list.
G-MaN
Friday December 12 20:24:25 2003
Re: A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
Pat Powers wrote:

> Which A-list actresses are mostly likely to show up in a
> full-treatment scene next?
>
> The actresses to choose from are:
>
> Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore,
> Jodie Foster, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer
> Lopez, Jennifer Anniston, Renee Zellweger, Nicole Kidman,
> Halle Berry, Kirsten Dunst

Do you remember......

DECEMBER 23RD 2002
Reese gets Racy!
Reese Witherspoon is gearing up to play classic cartoon racing driver Penelope Pitstop. For those who dont remember The Peril's Of Penelope Ptistop (1969-71), plucky Pen was forever being tied to railroad tracks by villians out to steal her inhertitance money. Sources say Gary Oldman (Hannibal) and Alan Rickman (Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets) will play baddies The Hooded Claw and Dick Dastardly.
SOURCE NW Magazine

She seemed a good choice (southern belle, likes wearing pink) but whether the project was canned or just put on the back burner.........who knows?

The trend for making movies from old tv shows and the success of Scooby Doo will hopefully lead to something.

Something other than Hollywood screwing it up.
Friday December 12 22:00:31 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
G-MaN wrote:

Kirsten use to do nothing for me, but since seeing her
strip on a rooftop (on "Days", of course) a few months ago, I've added her to my top five soap list.

I personally am a fan of top-notch acting, of which this is a prime example. Regarding the other - are you some kind of pervert or something?


Major John
Friday December 12 22:03:44 2003
Days Of Our Lives
I had read on here where sometime last year, Kirsten Storms was hand-gagged on "Days Of Our Lives". I would love to witness that scene, so where would be a place to either purchase the episode or web site to view it at? It isn't currently on Raffishes web page, but is there any place else to go and view it?
Friday December 12 22:11:20 2003
Re: mandy moore bound
I put a cap of it at the bottom of the my page.
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/200304Season.html
Friday December 12 22:15:11 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
Major John wrote:

> Regarding the other - are you some
> kind of pervert or something?

Yep, and shallow, too. Seeing a woman in her bra and panties can change my opinion of her in an instant.
G-MaN
Friday December 12 22:16:42 2003
Movie in development: "Hostage"
From today's Comingsoon.net (which lifted the story from the Daily Variety). There is a movie in pre-production with the simple title of "Hostage" starring everyone's favorite police officer, Bruce Willis. More plot info can be found on IMDB (link below), but I've copied the comingsoon.net story below which has more casting information. There should be at least two DiDs in this movie and they are both attractive. Release dates are not yet available, but it's probably a late 2004 opening.

--------------------------
Jonathan Tucker (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre) has joined the Bruce Willis thriller, Hostage. Tucker will star as the lead perpetrator who kidnaps Willis' wife and daughter, to be played by Serena Scott Thomas and Michelle Horn, respectively.

Hostage tells the story of an LAPD hostage negotiator (Willis) who withdraws to the countryside to become chief of a two-man police department after a standoff ends bloodily. But instead of achieving a sense of peace in the small town, he finds himself embroiled in negotiations to save his kidnapped wife and daughter.

The adaptation of the Robert Crais novel is being produced by Willis and Arnold Rifkin's Cheyenne Enterprises along with Stratus Film Co. principals Bob Yari and Mark Gordon. Florent Siri (The Nest) will direct.
Opus
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0340163/
Friday December 12 22:25:20 2003
Re: A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Do you remember......
>
> DECEMBER 23RD 2002
> Reese gets Racy!
> Reese Witherspoon is gearing up to play classic cartoon
> racing driver Penelope Pitstop. For those who dont
> remember The Peril's Of Penelope Ptistop (1969-71),
> plucky Pen was forever being tied to railroad tracks by
> villians out to steal her inhertitance money. Sources say
> Gary Oldman (Hannibal) and Alan Rickman (Harry Potter And
> The Chamber Of Secrets) will play baddies The Hooded Claw
> and Dick Dastardly.
> SOURCE NW Magazine
>
> She seemed a good choice (southern belle, likes wearing
> pink) but whether the project was canned or just put on
> the back burner.........who knows?
>
> The trend for making movies from old tv shows and the
> success of Scooby Doo will hopefully lead to something.
>
> Something other than Hollywood screwing it up.

With this level of detail, my bet is this was a production group with *some* money using a press release to nudge their project towards a studio greenlight. Apparently they weren't successful... but the Wonder Woman project has rattled around Development Heck *forever*, & now it's ...*this close* to production. Ya never know with this stuff. ;-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Friday December 12 22:47:12 2003
Re: A List Actresses Who'll Get The Full Treatment
Pat Powers wrote:

>And as for Foster, can you say "lesbian feminist"?

Let's not, and say we didn't.


The Moderator
Friday December 12 23:01:05 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
G-MaN wrote:
Yep, and shallow, too...

Right ON.....you've got MY vote.
Major John
Friday December 12 23:26:33 2003
Re: Days of Our Lives
Pervert! I thought this was a discussion page about bondage, not nudity.
Friday December 12 23:33:40 2003
Re: Movie in development: "Hostage"
> Hostage tells the story of an LAPD hostage negotiator
> (Willis) who withdraws to the countryside to become chief
> of a two-man police department after a standoff ends
> bloodily. But instead of achieving a sense of peace in
> the small town, he finds himself embroiled in
> negotiations to save his kidnapped wife and daughter.
>
> The adaptation of the Robert Crais novel is being
> produced by Willis and Arnold Rifkin's Cheyenne
> Enterprises along with Stratus Film Co. principals Bob Yari and Mark Gordon.

Hey I hope everyone is doing well tonight. Has anyone read or at least thumb through the pages of this book. If so, was a scene(s) that we can hope for, if so can someone describe the scene(s). I know the screenplay doesn't have to necessarily follow the book but I was just wondering.
Paco The Bandit
Friday December 12 23:39:45 2003
The Handler?
did anything pan out tonite on the Handler?

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