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Monday August 04 00:15:26 2003
Re: Series premieres
JP wrote:

> I always liked Anna Galvin's tied & cleave gag scene
> (with bomb attached to collar around her neck) in the
> "Timecop" premier. Also, the premier of the
> Bert Reynolds show "B.L. Stryker" had the 2
> really nice, albiet short, tie & gag scenes in it.
> Was Lara Flynn Boyle's scene in "Sable" a
> premier episode? I think it might have been.

"Timecop" is very good, and I considered "Sable" as well; but you're right on the money with that "B.L. Stryker" premiere. Those B.L. Stryker scenes are definitely Holy Grail types, especially so because I did have them at one point (oh, the joys of being brought up in a strict Catholic environment).
Ice Cream Man
Monday August 04 00:43:53 2003
Re: Ladron de Corazones on Telemundo
> I've sat thru parts of the show, and it looks like it has
> potential for some scenes.

> For those who don't know, this Novela is inspired by argentine 1996 teleseries called "Poliladron" featuring hot chica Laura Novoa, in which she got the full treatment about 4-5 times only in this teleseries (aprox. 50 chapters), so there's a very great reason to consider "Ladron de Corazones" as a very potencial bondage scenes show. There's the link from spanish Did-site from Ayador where you can see the vidcaps:

http://www.geocities.com/dayador/

http://usuarios.lycos.es/overlaid/Tv289.jpg
http://usuarios.lycos.es/overlaid/lano-p3-36.jpg
Overlaid
overlaidweb@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/overlaidweb
Monday August 04 00:52:52 2003
Knee High P.I.
According to the Comedy Central website, "Knee High P.I." will premier on October 12th... Sadly, no other information or photos were available there.
Just some guy
Monday August 04 01:26:31 2003
Re: Nikki Ziering
hallbire wrote:

> In most of it, I'm tied to a chair and
> gagged."
> Sounds to me like something we should be keeping and eye out for.

"most of it"? I sure hope she's not exaggerating too much! :) Better yet, let's hope they play up her helpless condition for comedy! That way, they'llto tlong it for our benefit.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Monday August 04 01:31:55 2003
"General Hospital" AGAIN!
Spoilers for this week say. . .

"Alcazar holds Courtney prisoner and orders Jason to return Carly to him."

So I guess the abductionpalooza continues on GH!
CM
Monday August 04 03:03:06 2003
Re: Nikki Ziering
> "most of it"? I sure hope she's not
> exaggerating too much! :) Better yet, let's hope they
> play up her helpless condition for comedy! That way,
> they'llto tlong it for our benefit.

"they'll PROLONG it..." - apparently it mangled my message. Probably related to my internet connection. I've had e-mail mangled as well, just something that randomly occurs. Anyway, there's what I meant to say.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Monday August 04 08:02:05 2003
Possible Carol Alt Canadian Alert?
>...disregard the conflicting scheds/descriptions and tape for "Un Orso Chiamato Arturo" on TLN channel @9pm tonight.

Tor/Star has "Film" in that time slot, so's good bet this will be the film with Carol Alt and not some mini-series...
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Were any of our Candadian posters w/ access to TLN able to confirm if this aired?
Kinky-napper
Monday August 04 09:14:26 2003
Re: Ladron de Corazones on Telemundo
Overlaid wrote:

> (aprox. 50 chapters), so there's a very great reason to
> consider "Ladron de Corazones" as a very
> potencial bondage scenes show.

Ladron De Corazones has already had at least 4 separate bondage scenes of varying quality.

1) Celia (middle-aged attractive Claudia Lobo) was kidnapped by thugs and tied to a chair I believe because the thugs wanted to screw with her son.

2) Veronica (sexy Lorena Rojas) was kidnapped by henchmen working on behalf of her father who was trying to drive a wedge between her and her boyfriend (Celia's son). She was snatched off a street and thrown into the back of a van. She was bound and blindfolded and eventually tortured. The kidnappers mistakenly believe they killed and get rid of her. Scene is knocked down some for me because of blood trickling from her mouth.

3) Susan (pretty blond Teresa Tuccio) was kidnapped by her boyfriend who had been sent on a mission to kill her. There's a shot of her naked and handcuffed (hands behind) while being given a sponge bath by the assassin/boyfriend. Cuts on her face knock the scene down for me though the shot from behind looked real good. Later she was held in an apartment cuffed by a single ankle. Eventually the boyfriend convinces her that he saved her life by faking her death and she is freed.

4) Claudia (pretty young Marisol Centeno) was kidnapped by thugs who broke into the hotel room she was staying in with her boyfriend. She is bound and gagged by the thugs who plan to rape her. She is saved from being raped by Susan's boyfriend. Unfortunately there is male interference though she is the only one who is gagged.
Philly Ed
Monday August 04 10:55:38 2003
Studying the Classics
It looks like Hollywood (and others) have finally woken-up to the dramatic possibilities offered by ancient history – “Hey you guys, let’s plunder the past!”

In production so far:
The Illiad - (Helen didn’t relocate to Troy of her own accord, if memory serves)
Boudica - UK TV Production (a spot of captivity and a dash (lash?) of whipping for the girls)
Alexander the Great (well there must have been something else to film besides that darn horse anecdote. A thousand slave girls for the Emperor anyone?)

Has anyone picked-up gossip etc., to allow hopes to be raised?
DB
Monday August 04 11:42:03 2003
Re: Nikki Ziering
Jazz411 wrote:

> hallbire wrote:
>
> > In most of it, I'm tied to a chair and

According to Nikki's websight, her appearance in Knee High PI is listed as a "cameo".
Spike917
Monday August 04 11:55:21 2003
NBC mini-movies
NBC is planning to run mini-movies during commercial breaks etc to keep viewers watching through commercials and lousy shows. "Some minimovies are built around suspense plots, or have black-comedy denouements, not unlike some old episodes of "The Twilight Zone."" Any theories as to what is going on immediately after this still from "Pussycat Dolls", which the New York Times ran today, undoubtedly because it is 'news that fit to print'?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/04/business/media/04ADCO.html
ss
Monday August 04 12:10:54 2003
RE: Ver Para Creer
Many thanks to Biff and JP for the heads up on this !!!!!

According to Yahoo TV 'Ver Para Creer' airs at 9:00 PM CDT on Tuesdays. THe program description appeared to just be a generic one, didn't look likit mentioned BDSM.

The BONDCONNYC site makes mention that a Spanish TV [Univision ?] film crew showed up unexpectedly.

Wonder if the upcoming show is that, or another story ??

Sounds pretty interesting no matter what :-)
Jact
Monday August 04 14:17:29 2003
Studying the Classics
DB wrote:

> It looks like Hollywood (and others) have finally woken-up to the dramatic possibilities offered by ancient history – “Hey you guys, let’s plunder the past!”

In production so far:
The Illiad - (Helen didn’t relocate to Troy of her own accord, if memory serves)
Has anyone picked-up gossip etc., to allow hopes to be raised?
---------------
USA network will be re-running its 4-hour movie "Helen of Troy" (2003) on Saturday, August 9 at 2:00PM E.T. and again at Midnight. This version finally had Helen (Sienna Guillory) b&g'd during her abduction.

Not sure why a movie company would give the green light for "The Illiad", when its potential audience had recently viewed a 4-hour TV movie for free. Then again, I'm not paid seven figures for projects such as "Gigli".
Kinky-napper
Monday August 04 14:30:04 2003
The Pussycat Dolls
ss wrote:

> NBC is planning to run mini-movies during commercial breaks etc to keep viewers watching through commercials and lousy shows... Any theories as to what is going on immediately after this still from "Pussycat Dolls"?
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The Pussycat Dolls were the cover story for the December 2002 Maxim (USA) magazine. They're a retro burlesque show, with Hollywood stars sometimes spotted on the bill. Christina Applegate was an original Pussycat when the act started in 1995; I infer from the article that Carmen Electra also makes appearances from time to time. Christina Aguilera, Gwen Stefani, and Charlize Theron have made guest appearances.

Unfortunately, if handcuffs are seen in the act, they'd likely be spotted as simply an accessory dangling from a waist.
Kinky-napper
Monday August 04 14:33:08 2003
RE: Ver Para Creer
Jact wrote:

> Many thanks to Biff and JP for the heads up on this
> !!!!!
>

Your gratitude should be directed toward Philly Ed ... I was just conduiting.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday August 04 15:18:30 2003
Re: The Pussycat Dolls
Kinky-napper wrote:

> The Pussycat Dolls were the cover story for the December
> 2002 Maxim (USA) magazine. They're a retro burlesque
> show, with Hollywood stars sometimes spotted on the bill.
>> Unfortunately, if handcuffs are seen in the act, they'd
> likely be spotted as simply an accessory dangling from a waist.

Yes, I'm aware who they are. The point is NBC has made a mini-movie starring them, in the still they look sort of tense, worried... Perhaps some kind of plot line that puts them in peril? One can hope...
ss
Monday August 04 16:04:29 2003
Re: EL ÁRBOL DEL PENITENTE
(unsigned poster) wrote:

was there any scenes of her tied &
> gagged before the car pulled up with her in it? or was
> this the first shot of her in bondage in the movie? thanks for the info.
>

I commenced taping at the 102' mark, during the preceding ad break ... from that point that's the first good look you get. There are a couple of shots of the car approaching before that ... but if you *can* see her in one of them, that's about all you can say: that she's visible.
Biff
Monday August 04 16:41:28 2003
Re: Spun, really a classic scene?
>"Scene of year" 90% of the vote.

> I saw this scene a few days ago, I wasn't that impressed.
>
> The only thing that made it a little better than average
> was the individual squares of duct tape over her eyes. I
> thought that was a nice touch.
> Of course, that's just my opinion.

I agree, and I even think that the "special" blindfold spoils a bit the scene. Especially when the girl shows her frustration and anger, a moment that would have been much sexier with a facial expression. And those two strips are not such a good idea, as far as aesthetics are concerned (more original, but less attractive than a scarf-like blindfold)

But I am aware that it's a matter of taste and I fully respect other opinions, for instance being aroused by the very fact that a blindfolded damsel isn't able to express herself with her eyes, totally submitted...
Also nudity, spreadeagle are aspects that don't mean much to me. They tend to make the scene look more like an erotic bondage movie than mainstream fiction. I know it may sound silly and some kind of a paradox to many of you, but I like when a scene is not so obviously a bondage-sex oriented sequence... Besides, I would have loved to see that pretty blond girl, being able to move a little in the apartment, trying to get rid of her bonds, or alert people, and being re-tied in a more secure way afterwards (like hogtied), and so on... Again, total submission may be an obstacle for much sexier action! Definite classic scenes : la porta sul' buio, TAU, Die Die my darling, The Collector... or, more recently, The Orison episode from X-Files...

Spun is a very good surprise and an excellent scene, but not a classic one!

franco
Monday August 04 17:02:17 2003
Studying the Classics
DB wrote:

> It looks like Hollywood (and others) have finally woken-up to the dramatic possibilities offered by ancient history...

In production so far:
Boudica - UK TV Production (a spot of captivity and a dash (lash?) of whipping for the girls)

Has anyone picked-up gossip etc., to allow hopes to be raised?
------
I had a chance to refer back to my copy of historian Tacitus' classic "The Annals of Imperial Rome". Boudicca (aka Boadicea; there's a footnote that the spelling is unauthenticated), after the Roman officers killed her husband the king of Iceni, was flogged and her daughters raped.

The Iceni and other tribes rebel (and several battles and massacres by both sides later) and the decisive battle takes place in open country. Boudicca drives round all the tribes in a chariot with her daughters in front of her and delivers a stirring speech.

However, the battle is a rout. Tacitus wrote that the Romans did not spare even the women... added to the heaps of the dead. Boudicca poisoned herself.

So to sum up today's History class, there likely wasn't much bondage, as both Romans and Britons didn't take slaves in this no-quarter war. Then again, producers, scriptwriters, and directors are notorious for not even reading comic books for adaptations, so I question how many would study the writings of Tacitus and Suetonius.
Kinky-napper
Monday August 04 17:39:32 2003
Re: USA network tonight 8.3.03
> but THE FOREIGNER will
> repeat at 1AM E/P Monday morning and Saturday at 8PM.

And The Dead Zone repeats three or four times over the coming week. Not that it matters this time. Of course if these villains had had the sense to tie up their hostages they wouldn't have been defeated.

Paul
Monday August 04 19:49:32 2003
Re: Studying the Classics
> Then again, producers,
> scriptwriters, and directors are notorious for not even
> reading comic books for adaptations, so I question how
> many would study the writings of Tacitus and Suetonius.

Heh. You'll be lucky if it's set in Britain and not Italy.

Or I can see the scene -- the initial screening of the first cut of the movie is talking to the producer: "Really? Boudicea was a CHICK?"
Pat Powers
Monday August 04 20:03:04 2003
She Spies
Is She Spies coming back for second two? If so my dreams of a three way cleave gagged cat suit 20 minute scene are still this side of reality :)
Steve a
Monday August 04 20:24:17 2003
Re: Studying the Classics
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Then again, producers,
> scriptwriters, and directors are notorious for not even
> reading comic books for adaptations, so I question how
> many would study the writings of Tacitus and Suetonius.

Well, if they are going to butcher history, which they almost always do, let's hope they throw in some DiD scenes. I mean hey, if you're going to rewrite history, you may as well go the full nine.

I only hope that it does not follow the path of "Gladiator," the last movie made about Roman times. The inaccuracies about the reigns of Marcus Aurelius and Commodus aside, it was one big putzes-in-manacles fest.

We got the word "bodacious" from Bodaecia, so she must have been hot. Let's hope for the best.
Lord Zoltar
Monday August 04 20:50:55 2003
Hollywood adaptations
> Well, if they are going to butcher history, which they almost always do, let's hope they throw in some DiD scenes.
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As a student of history, I do admit to cringing every time I notice Hollywood taking liberties with accuracy in order for "marketability". However, I'll concede that that it is necessary at times.

E.g., the decisive battle in "Braveheart" is fought on a large open field, rather than on a bridge. However, it would've been very expensive and time consuming to build a large bridge for the sake of one scene. And Santa Anna's final assault on the Alamo was a surprise attack launched at night (around 3AM, I believe), not during broad daylight as the 1960 film depicted. However, it would've been difficult to film and coordinate hundreds of people at 3AM (not to mention getting closeups of dramatic death scenes for Crockett, Bowie, and Travis).

One of the "best" variances from a book was "The Collector". In 1965, one certainly would never have been able to have Freddy's unfeeling photography session of a nude, bound & gagged, and ill Miranda play in theaters. But director William Wyler was able to work w/ Samantha Eggar for that bangup bathtub b&g scene (which still holds up 40 years later as a classic) -- which isn't in Fowles' novel.
Kinky-napper
Monday August 04 20:52:21 2003
Re: She Spies
Steve a wrote:

> Is She Spies coming back for second two?

Yes, "She Spies" will be back for a second season.
CM
Monday August 04 21:17:17 2003
Days of Our Lives
Yet another scene coming tomorrow for Kristian Alfonso...

A day-ahead spoiler says "He returns to the cave and we see he’s tied Bo and Hope up. They stop struggling with the ropes when Cree returns and he tells them the deal is in the works when asked. Hope asks what he’s going to do with them as he holds the gun, trying to decide"
chubby
Monday August 04 21:23:37 2003
"Classicals"
There are a TON of "classical" movies in development, including at least one TV mini-series set in post Julian Rome. The one *I'm* waiting for is the supposed production of Steven Pressfield's "Gates of Fire," the tale of Leonidas & the 300 Spartans. If you haven't read the book... Van's HIGHEST RECOMMENDATION!!!

Anyhoo... if a Boudicca (a.k.a. Boadicea) movie does get made, it will have at least one saving grace: She was a REDHEAD!!! ;-)

Hmm... Julianne Moore? (Dare I even dream it?)
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1501/JulianneMo_Vespa_592357_400.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday August 04 21:52:16 2003
Linda Florentino
Tonight, HBO has on Liberty Stands Still at 10:00 Central and Eastern which is 1:00AM Western. Anyways, LF is ankle fettered to a hotdog stand in this original idea of Phone Booth. Caps please if there arent already ones. Thanks
ddp456
ddp456@yahoo.com
Monday August 04 22:07:29 2003
Stargate
There was a lovely scene with the all time cutie Amanada Tapping cable tied to a chair on the Sci-Fi channel this evening. Scene had putz but she was threatened with drugs and a nasty alien with a baton. What a cutie... Last week the Colonel was in a time warp (ground hog day) and during one loop kissed our heroine.... Imagine, he could have gotten away with using handcuffs, leather, tape and even a good sized ball gag.. a different tie for each time loop... The best AT scene is where she is in uniform, tiesd to a chair and Choloro'ed in order to be implanted with some alien. What is your favorite AT scene..can we expect a scene?
Kilk
Monday August 04 22:19:38 2003
DIDophile
> And she is a hottie and on many a DiDophile's wish list.

DIDophile! I really like that term. I am going to start using it. IMO, DIDophile belongs in this pages's DIDtionary.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Monday August 04 22:40:30 2003
Re: Spun, really a classic scene?
> >"Scene of year" 90% of the vote.

I'll go with Spun as "Scene of the Year". It's rare to see a damsel wearing clothes tied in a spreadeagle that wide, to see her nude was so wild it was surprising. Nude and well lit. And lengthy. And with a gag. And with a SMOKIN' hot damsel.

Frankly, it was so much better than other scenes like it ordinarily are that I just don't see any competition.

If your personal tastes don't run to nude damsels, I can understand your not liking the scene, but it's really hard to say it doesn't have a lot going for it.
Pat Powers
Monday August 04 23:06:01 2003
Re: DIDophile
mornad wrote:

> > And she is a hottie and on many a DiDophile's wish
> list.
>
> DIDophile! I really like that term. I am going to start
> using it. IMO, DIDophile belongs in this pages's
> DIDtionary.

I like it too, & herewith volunteer to join the ranks thereof! :-) Let's all get together & found a city. We can call it DiDophiladelphia. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

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