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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Monday September 22 00:31:23 2003 Re: Vidcap scenes |
| > (2) "Vidcap scene" (*or* DiDcap scene) isn't...
> tight. "'Vidcap scene'... that must mean you can > make a vidcap from it. Well DUH!" :-) The > required restriction just isn't there, see? A question for the group. What do you call a scene that has cute/nice ropework, gagwork, whatever floats your boat, but has a *horrible* soundtrack? For example, scenes in She Spies. The show is just too silly for me to even really want to watch the DiD scenes - DiDcaps are something I'd much prefer in that case, rather than a DiDclip! Do we call them "mute button" scenes, or something else? Or something to imply that pictures are better than video? |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday September 22 00:39:59 2003 "Underworld" |
| In the new vamp-werewolf flick, "Underworld", an actress (who was credited at the end of the film, but I don't recall her name, and it's not in the IMDB at present) is chained to a pillar, hands over head. Unfortunately, her scenes are of the "flashback/hallucination" variety that go by so quickly that you'll probably have to wait for DVD to get a really good look.
If IMDB gets the name up there, I'll add it to the database. |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound |
| Monday September 22 02:41:45 2003 Re: Best "Spread-Eagle" Scenes? |
| gytalf2000 wrote:
> What do you > think are the best scenes featuring girls tied or chained > in a "spread-eagle" position? I would > especially appreciate info where an unconscious damsel > wakes up to find herself in such a predicament! Thanks in advance for any info! A nice one that I've finished capping for next week's update is Alicia Witt in "Urban Legend". |
| Gratefuldead1212 |
| boundandgagged2003@hotmail.com |
| http://www.geocities.com/gratefuldead1212 |
| Monday September 22 07:22:12 2003 Re: Best "Spread-Eagle" Scenes? |
| Two of my favorites are Barbara Anne Contstable in "Lady Terminator" & Cynthia Rothrock in "Lady Dragon II" |
| iD |
| Monday September 22 08:01:32 2003 America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > what happened on americas most wanted tonight? > > > > Three girls all gray duct taped eyes and mouth, handcuffed behind, grim, rape, struggle; it's hard to watch these scenes, but there it is. ------------- This should qualify for a "Scene Database" addition... |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday September 22 08:53:08 2003 Re: She Spies |
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> episodes will begin the weekend of Sept 26th. > Unfortunately it looks like they are introducing another > male into the cast And another female as well! But Kareen Cliche has left Adventure Inc for Mutant x so if that show returns(?)we wont see her ever get a scene. |
| Monday September 22 08:56:44 2003 "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| Cinescape.com reports that NAOMI WATTS has been offered the role of Ann Darrow in the Peter Jackson remake of "KING KONG." Ann Darrow is the Fay Wray role, of course. Let's hope she accepts (rather than make the sequel to "The Ring.") I for one think she's the perfect candidate for a blind date with The Big Guy. :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Monday September 22 09:31:07 2003 Re: Best Spreadeagle |
| Has to be the scene in "Spun." Naked, hot chick. Gagged and blindfolded. Best of all, her legs are spread WIDE. To me, a wide spreadeagle like some of the ones cited already (Valentina, Lady Dragon II) are much better than ones where the gal's legs are practically clenched. A personal taste of course, but I am comfortable with it. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday September 22 09:38:48 2003 Re: Vidcap scenes |
| > (2) "Vidcap scene" (*or* DiDcap scene) isn't...
> tight. "'Vidcap scene'... that must mean you can > make a vidcap from it. Well DUH!" :-) The > required restriction just isn't there, see? Good point. The term as it stands is misleading. > > How 'bout "One DiDcap wonder?" ...as in: > "The episode's purported 'DiD scene' turned out to > be a 'one DiDcap wonder.' I like 'one DiDcap wonder." It's stronger in the whole contempt area. Better than vidcap scene actually. > By the way, you (pl.) like like the term > "DiDology" for what we do, that is, the > observation, identification, description, experimental > investigation, and theoretical explanation of the Damsel-in-Distress? :-) It's OK, except that it sounds kinda like we're trying to ramp this up into a science whereas I have always thoguht of it more as a hobby, like stamp collecting, but much sexier and more interesting. Oh, sure, stamp collectors like to call themselves "philologists" but who do they think they're fooling? |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday September 22 09:40:03 2003 Re: Didology |
| Oh, and don't get me started on coin collectors and "numismatics." |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday September 22 11:12:50 2003 Re: Didology |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> Oh, and don't get me started on coin collectors and > "numismatics." What's the fun of being obsessive if you can't be pretentious? :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Monday September 22 16:24:52 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| >>>Cinescape.com reports that NAOMI WATTS has been offered
> the role of Ann Darrow in the Peter Jackson remake of > "KING KONG."<<<< Is it just me or do they always seem to cast this role based not on acting abilty, or even breast size (Unusual for Hollywood), but on blonde hair and by the uhhh, ummm, perky nature of the damsel's nipples? Think about it... |
| Vince Grey |
| vincegrey@thegreyman.net |
| www.thegreyman.net |
| Monday September 22 16:34:11 2003 Vanessa Marcil scene |
| <i>Record number: 1361
Title: General Hospital Medium: Soap Opera Actress: Vanessa Marcil Description: (Late 1994 or early 1995 scene) GH went to Puerto Rico. There, Brenda (Vanessa) is captures by enemies of her boyfriend. She is tied to a chair and gagged in her underwear. Obe of the greatest scenes ever. </i> Did this scene listed in the database actually happen? It sounds like a great scene. I would have thought there would be some discussion on it since Vanessa will be starring in the new show "Vegas". Plus, I never have seen any caps, clips, etc. about this scene. Can anyone verify that this scene happened? I would prefer a regular poster(Van, Fuzz, Philly Ed, Major John,etc) to respond if at all possible. |
| Paco The Bandit |
| Monday September 22 17:59:28 2003 Re: Vanessa Marcil scene |
| Paco The Bandit wrote:
> <i>Record number: 1361 > Title: General Hospital Medium: Soap Opera Actress: Vanessa Marcil Description: (Late 1994 or early 1995 scene) GH went to Puerto Rico. There, Brenda (Vanessa) is captures by enemies of her boyfriend. She is tied to a chair and gagged in her underwear. Obe of the greatest scenes ever. Personally never even heard about this one, so a little suspicious..other than that - no idea |
| Major John |
| Monday September 22 18:21:45 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
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> > > what happened on americas most wanted tonight? > > > > > > Three girls all gray duct taped eyes and mouth, > handcuffed behind, grim, rape, struggle; it's hard to > watch these scenes, but there it is. Are episodes of this program rerun? Will this episode be repeated at a later date? |
| Hadji |
| Monday September 22 18:38:49 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
| > > > Three girls all gray duct taped eyes and mouth,
> > > handcuffed behind, grim, rape, struggle; it's hard > to > > watch these scenes, but there it is. Actually, I thought the scenes were fairly good. A fair amount of footage and good tight bondage (except for the duct tape gags & blindfolds...it seems both those first 2 girls were able to talk thru them & fairly easily get them off their mouths & eyes. I did not find it to be a really unpleasant scene...the girls weren't physically hurt (except for the last one who got hit with the gun) and the rapes were only talked about...nothing was shown except for some clothes & panties being cut off. Does anyone know.....were the girls in the scenes the actual ones who were attacked in real life, or actresses portraying them? I know usually on these shows they use actors to represent the people involved, but these ladies looked VERY much like the ones they showed giving the interview. And I think at least one of these true cop shows uses the actually people, not actors. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Monday September 22 18:40:48 2003 Re: G.H. |
| This one popped up a while back. I have the scene on tape -Vanessa is tied to a chair, Sonny rescues her shortly afterward - no gag. |
| zinger |
| Monday September 22 18:43:00 2003 Re: Vanessa Marcil scene |
| Paco The Bandit wrote:
> Title: General Hospital > Actress: Vanessa Marcil > Did this scene listed in the database actually happen? There was a scene with her tied to a chair, but nobody has reported one with a gag. Sounds like scene creep. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 22 18:44:38 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
| Hadji wrote:
> > Are episodes of this program rerun? Sometimes. > Will this episode be repeated at a later date? No one knows. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 22 19:26:31 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
| > Does anyone know.....were the girls in the scenes the
> actual ones who were attacked in real life, or actresses > portraying them? They were definitely actors, but yes they were well cast. |
| Monday September 22 19:51:02 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
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> > > Will this episode be repeated at a later date? > > No one knows. > Sometimes selected scenes are repeated if they make a capture, just to remind us how bad the crook actually was, and that it is a good thing they are now off the street. |
| Legend of the Wolf |
| Monday September 22 20:30:21 2003 Re: Vanessa Marcil scene |
| >Brian R wrote:
> > > Title: General Hospital > > Actress: Vanessa Marcil > > > Did this scene listed in the database actually > happen? > > There was a scene with her tied to a chair, but nobody > has reported one with a gag. Sounds like scene creep. I was thinking it might be a case of scene creep. I do remember posts about her being tied up in her bra and panties to a chair. I never saw the scene but I sure would like to(even as a so called gag snob). I hope she gets in similar situations on that new show,better yet she goes back to GH being that the soap now seems a hotbed for DiD scenes lately. Thanks everyone for your help and contribution in clearing this up! |
| Paco The Bandit |
| Monday September 22 21:07:18 2003 Re: Vidcap scenes |
| > Do we call them "mute button" scenes, or
> something else? Or something to imply that pictures are better than video? How about calling them "Jennings" after the lead of the movie "Defiance of Good and Evil" Jean Jennings? It was an early adult film from the late 60s/early 70s and had the most godawful soundtrack I have ever heard -- for almost all of the movie, the sound track to the sexy scenes consisted of a church organist playing the kind of music you hear at a funeral before the service begins. I kid you not. Talk about a mood-killer. It was mind-numbingly bad. I know it's not mainstream, but it's not exactly what we'd consider an adult film nowadays -- it came from a time when adult movies hadn't evolved into what they are now and they still had pretension to a plot. So, um "Jennings." Yeah. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday September 22 21:13:26 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
| JP wrote:
> > Does anyone know.....were the girls in the scenes the > actual ones who were attacked in real life, or actresses > portraying them? I know usually on these shows they use > actors to represent the people involved, but these ladies > looked VERY much like the ones they showed giving the > interview. And I think at least one of these true cop > shows uses the actually people, not actors. > Even though it *is* a FOX program (although there's little reason to make that distinction these days), I really can't envision rape victims being asked to recreate their ordeals for the camera. But give it a few months. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Monday September 22 21:36:40 2003 Vidcap scenes (aka Mute button scenes) |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> A question for the group. What do you call a scene that has cute/nice ropework, gagwork, whatever floats your boat, but has a *horrible* soundtrack? Do we call them "mute button" scenes, or something else? -------- Perhaps they be could be termed as being afflicted with "Beach Fever", for the opening of the comic scene where the villainous surfer dude intentionally goads the B&g'd Judea Brittain [well, we could coin the term "Brittain", but some here might take offense] with his awful guitar serenading. Unfortunately, John Belushi's "Bluto" doesn't come on the scene to smash in his guitar, so she can only wince and grunt her displeasure. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday September 22 21:47:56 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| Vince Grey wrote:
> > Cinescape.com reports that NAOMI WATTS has > > been offered the role of Ann Darrow in the Peter > > Jackson remake of "KING KONG."<<<< > > Is it just me or do they always seem to cast this role > based not on acting abilty, or even breast size (Unusual > for Hollywood), but on blonde hair and by the uhhh, ummm, > perky nature of the damsel's nipples? > > Think about it... > > http://www.thegreyman.net Okay... I thought about it. It's just you. :-) Seriously, Naomi Watts has a fine body (so to speak) of work. Check out her filmography (URL below.) Also, Peter Jackson knows how to cast a role. Four words: "Lord of the Rings." :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0915208/ |
| Monday September 22 22:09:49 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| > Cinescape.com reports that NAOMI WATTS has
> been offered the role of Ann Darrow in the > Peter Jackson remake of "KING> KONG." > Is it just me or do they always seem to cast this > role based not on acting abilty, or even breast size Now I love Naomi also, as I do of most of David Lynch's bunch but, correct me if I'm wrong, the King Kong scene (2 versions) are short, dumb vine thingy tie up, no gag (remember, they want her to scream), pretty lame. So why do we care about the new version? Hey, I like to dream also, but usually only when there's real hope. |
| Monday September 22 22:40:48 2003 Re: America's Most Wanted - Sept 20 episode |
| > Even though it *is* a FOX program (although there's
> little reason to make that distinction these days), I > really can't envision rape victims being asked to > recreate their ordeals for the camera. Good point. I imagine recreating a rape attack would be pretty devistating to the victim. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Monday September 22 22:53:41 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| > Now I love Naomi also, as I do of most of David Lynch's
> bunch but, correct me if I'm wrong, the King Kong scene > (2 versions) are short, dumb vine thingy tie up, no gag > (remember, they want her to scream), pretty lame. So why > do we care about the new version? Hey, I like to dream > also, but usually only when there's real hope. Because some of us like spreadeagles. Fay Wray wore too much clothing. The remake with whatsername wasn't even a spreadeagle, the scene sucked. Maybe third time will be a charm. |
| Malasfan |
| Monday September 22 22:54:38 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Cinescape.com reports that NAOMI WATTS has > > been offered the role of Ann Darrow in the > > Peter Jackson remake of "KING> > KONG." > > Is it just me or do they always seem to cast this > > role based not on acting abilty, or even breast > size > > Now I love Naomi also, as I do of most of David Lynch's > bunch but, correct me if I'm wrong, the King Kong scene > (2 versions) are short, dumb vine thingy tie up, no gag > (remember, they want her to scream), pretty lame. So why > do we care about the new version? Hey, I like to dream > also, but usually only when there's real hope. Both Fay Wray and Jessica Lange evaded being bound and gagged in their respective versions of "King Kong", and in the original novel, the female protagonist is restrained and gagged with hands. There is, however, a cartoon version of "King Kong" in which the character, a gorgeous blonde, is actually shown bound and gagged by the natives. She is being carried off, and has her hands tied behind her back and is gagged with a white cloth tied over her mouth. She also makes quite a few delectable and convincing "mmph" sounds through her gag. I don't recall its title, but it was recent, and might still be available in the children's section of a video store. |
| Hadji |
| Monday September 22 23:02:46 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Cinescape.com reports that NAOMI WATTS has > > been offered the role of Ann Darrow in the > > Peter Jackson remake of "KING KONG." > > Now I love Naomi also, as I do of most of David Lynch's > bunch but, correct me if I'm wrong, the King Kong scene > (2 versions) are short, dumb vine thingy tie up, no gag > (remember, they want her to scream), pretty lame. So why > do we care about the new version? Hey, I like to dream > also, but usually only when there's real hope. {Sigh} Dear unsigned poster, Forget the Jeff Bridges, Jessica Lange, Dino De Laurentiis, 1976 version. It was a piece of @&#%!; it was a bad dream; it never existed. The 1933 version is one of the BEST FILMS EVER MADE. Not one of the best special effects films, or Fantasy films, or Big Hairy Ape films... FILMS... period. Most critics have it on their "100 Most Important Films of the 20th Century" list. Ann Darrow's kidnapping off the deck of the steamer is ONE OF THE BEST HAND GAG SCENES OF ALL TIME. The "Bride of Kong" scene with the sacrifical platform, Ann's binding between the columns with twisted vines, her terrified whimpering while they ring the gong, the appearance of Kong, Ann's reaction... pretty lame?... PRETTY LAME??? Have you seen the damn film??? This is what comes from treating "DiD scenes" as static objects, as little beads to be strung together to make a necklace of DiDcap sets of video clips. Gag or no gag? What style? What was she wearing? Did she struggle? All that matters. All of it is important. But the *most* important? THE STORY!!! Dramatic context (the power of the writer's words & the director skill in putting them on the screen) is everything! It can take one of those beads & turn it into a diamond. King Kong LAME??? Geesh!!! :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ |
| Monday September 22 23:25:30 2003 Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast." |
| Hadji wrote:
> There is, however, a cartoon version of "King > Kong" in which the character, a gorgeous blonde, is > actually shown bound and gagged by the natives. > I don't recall its title, but it was recent, and might > still be available in the children's section of a video > store. It's probably the 1998 direct to video feature "The Mighty Kong". It would be nice to verify this because it isn't in the database. |
| iD |
| Monday September 22 23:58:01 2003 King Kong ain't got nothin on me |
| >Van wrote: (in response to):
> correct me if I'm wrong, the King Kong > scene (2 versions) are short, dumb vine thingy tie up, no > gag As a scene, imho, it was lame > The 1933 version is one of the BEST FILMS EVER MADE. I agree, in fact, I've seen the original uncut version, rarely shown, which is funny (the finger sniff on the cliff is incredible), thrilling and amazing. The film is on my top ten list of all time. > pretty lame?... PRETTY LAME??? Have you seen the damn > film??? > This is what comes from treating "DiD scenes" > as static objects, I don't know, this site is about discussion of scenes in mainstream media and I thought the original poster was saying the remake may produce a good scene for Naomi and I responded saying I don't like to get my hopes up for marginal possibilities, and a remake of Kong seems way marginal for a good scene. >King Kong LAME??? Geesh!!! :-) Anyway, always enjoy your postings, Van. |
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