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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Sunday October 26 00:15:41 2003 Re: Renegade Scenes |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> On Season 4 Hog Calls, Shauna's character is not a > lawyer. > (but she get kidnapped). > On Season 3 there is a slick lawyer (Nancy) Actually fgor informationon renegade scenes you should ask the webmaster of the "Official Renegade site" He may know. I've added a link to the page. |
| RJH |
| http://www.renoraines.net/renegade/ |
| Sunday October 26 03:04:07 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| LV wrote:
> Renegade 1: > > Record number: 325 > Wearing a skin tight leather dress she gets her hands > tied behind on screen with phone cord, tape gagged and > locked in a closet. > Renegade 4 > > It might be Database Record number 1193 (Shauna Sand > Lamas). Is that the one you thought? Thanks LV, I'll go with your identification of Renegade 1. The skin-tight leather dress, the on-screen tying and the tapegag all fits. What made me unsure was the phone cord (does American phone cord really look like this thin white something?) and the closet (could be a language thing, I thought "closet" meant either a cabinet for linen and clothes, or a very small room; this room looks more like a bedroom to me). Yes, no 4, I thought of 1193 or 1674. The "under the hair" gag seems to rule out 1674, IF correct. Problem with both are the "tied to a chair" without further details about how. ( and no description of clothes etc) We discussed the importance of precise and relatively detailed descriptions before in here. Anyway thanks again. One down, 3 to go. |
| Per |
| http://homepage.mac.com/perk99/FileSharing1.html |
| Sunday October 26 03:15:50 2003 Re: Renegade Scenes |
| RJH wrote:
> Actually for information on renegade scenes you should > ask the webmaster of the "Official Renegade > site" Thanx, I might do that eventually; for fun, I'll see what the DiD experts in here can do first. |
| Per |
| Sunday October 26 04:08:39 2003 Whitelord Signy Award 2003 |
| Nomination for 2003 DID scenes.
Can someone explain the details: * gag/no gag * what gag * what is the story * caps (description for overseas members) 1. Tomb Raider 2: A. Jolie 2. JAG: C. Bell (Military Lawyer) 3. Spun: C. Hunter 4. 24: E. Cuthbert (daughter of a secret agent) 5. Wrong Turn: E. Dushku 6. Shanghai Knights: F. Wong 7. Farscape: G. Edgley 8. Die Another Day: H. Berry (007 movie, no gag) 9. Verbotene Liebe: H. Brentano (foreign movie?) 10. Alias: J. Garner (secret agent). 11. Angel: J. Mollen 12. Enterprise: J. Blalock 13. Descendant: K. Heighl 14. Secretary: M. Gylenhall (Secretary in SM relationship, no gag) 15. Centra Vetrine: Maccaferi (foreign movie?) 16. She Spies: N Henstridge (secret agent) 17. Baywatch Hawaii: N. Eggert, J. Bleeth (Life guard) 18. Knee High PI: N. Ziering 19. Transporter: Qi Shu (in the trunk/boot of a car) Thank you. |
| Sunday October 26 04:18:35 2003 Re: Per's Post- Data-Base Descriptions |
| Per wrote:
> ( and no description of clothes etc) > We discussed the importance of precise and relatively > detailed descriptions Mentioning clothes descriptions was done as a favour, only for afew fellas with interest in skirts and nylons. Haven't seen a particular fella whom most vocal post here in awhile, so not really continuing with that. Hear more about how tied descriptions. Fellas with hands behind, hands over, ankles together, etc interests get irritated with "Bound hand & foot" descriptions. |
| Jay L |
| Sunday October 26 05:06:13 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| > The skin-tight leather dress, the on-screen tying and the
> tapegag all fits. The damsel does some pretty strenuous fighting while bound and snugly gagged, but who noticed that at the moment she bursts out of whatever you want to call that space, her hands are FREE? One for the discontinuity hall of shame. How sad, too, that we never saw her being gagged on screen. |
| Mad Dan |
| Sunday October 26 05:08:13 2003 Whitelord Signy Award 2003 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Nomination for 2003 DID scenes. Can someone explain the details: * gag/no gag * what gag * what is the story * caps (description for overseas members) ------ 1) For details of the mainstream bondage scenes, go to the Brian's Page "Scene Database" section. If the entire storyline is of interest to you, go to the Internet Movie Database (IMDB.com) for the synopsis. 2) Brian's Page is not a Vidcaps site. Links contained in the "Friends Pages" section include some caps sites. 3) For what it's worth, I voted for Chloe Hunter in "Spun" + Sean Young in "Mary Higgins Clark's Before I Say Goodbye" in Signy's 2nd round voting for "2003 Best Mainstream scene". Both were extended Gag-scenes, of course. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday October 26 05:15:22 2003 Re: Per's Post- Data-Base Descriptions |
| Jay L wrote:
> Mentioning clothes descriptions was done as a favour, > only for afew fellas with interest in skirts and nylons. so not really continuing with that. Jay, do you mean I should not add a short sentence like "wears a red dress and heels" in future entries? -could still help ID "unknown caps" like in this case IMHO. |
| Per |
| Sunday October 26 05:19:41 2003 Database Descriptions |
| > > ( and no description of clothes etc)
> > We discussed the importance of precise and relatively detailed descriptions > Mentioning clothes descriptions was done as a favour,only for a few fellas with interest in skirts and nylons. Haven't seen a particular fella whom most vocal post here in awhile, so not really continuing with that. Hear more about how tied descriptions. Fellas with hands behind, hands over, ankles together, etc interests get irritated with "Bound hand & foot" descriptions. ------ I'd agree. This is a "Mainstream bondage" site rather than a "Clothing fetish" site, so more persons will be interested in the descriptions of the bondage, than in details of what the damsel was wearing (unless it's unusually *Hot*, such as nude or in lingerie or swimwear). I suspect many guys here would be hard-pressed to answer what their wife/girlfriend is wearing today, or what they themselves wore yesterday. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday October 26 06:37:48 2003 Sean Young |
| anyone knows wer i can see caps from sean youngs scene in mary higgins clarks movie? |
| Barnes |
| Sunday October 26 10:07:53 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| Per wrote:
> Thanks LV, I'll go with your identification of Renegade > 1. > The skin-tight leather dress, the on-screen tying and the > tapegag all fits. > What made me unsure was the phone cord (does American > phone cord really look like this thin white something?) > and the closet (could be a language thing, I thought > "closet" meant either a cabinet for linen and > clothes, or a very small room; this room looks more like > a bedroom to me). You're welcome. A phone cord can. We have available varieties of phone cords which come in different colors and thicknesses. Closets can vary from a small linen closet (generally just enough space for several shelves) to large closets as here, which are called "walk-in closets", as you literally can fully walk into one. These are meant to hold large wardrobes (dresses, suits, etc), and I guess give a person room enough look through them. |
| LV |
| Sunday October 26 10:23:07 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| I asked that webmaster. The damsel in question is Lisa Stahl. Apparently Lorenzo Lamas was trying to fool mobsters into thinking he was a mobster too. She was going to give him away. She is the same damsel who was hogtied and tape gagged in Pacific Blue. Lorenzo comes onto her and ties her up to be "kinky." She is gagged onscreen. we see her later as she charges out of a closet when the door is opened by Lorenzo's partner. The webmaster is going to look up the episode title, but he did tell me about the scene. Apparently the webmster is one of us because he's adding a "damsels" section of his photo gallery dealing just with these scenes. |
| RJH |
| Sunday October 26 10:59:08 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| LV wrote:
to large closets > as here, which are called "walk-in closets", as > you literally can fully walk into one. This does it!! Now I want to know :) Please take a look on the last cap from scene 1 and tell me, is this bedroom a closet (or maybe she is locked in a closet later?). |
| Per |
| http://homepage.mac.com/perk99/FileSharing1.html |
| Sunday October 26 11:04:59 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| RJH wrote:
The damsel in question is Lisa > Stahl. Ok thanx, this confirms LV entry 325. Apparently the webmster > is one of us because he's adding a "damsels" > section of his photo gallery dealing just with these scenes. Ohh.....will have to check that out. |
| Per |
| Sunday October 26 11:15:24 2003 Re: Database Descriptions |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> I'd agree. This is a "Mainstream bondage" site > rather than a "Clothing fetish" site, so more > persons will be interested in the descriptions of the > bondage, than in details of what the damsel was wearing > (unless it's unusually *Hot*, such as nude or in lingerie > or swimwear). I am not a clothing fetichist, although I WOULD like to know if a damsel wears an evening dress or skiing gear. But my main reason for wishing descriptions of clothes (or other charasteristics of a scene besides the bondage itself) is for identification purposes. The Renegade scenes is a good example. > > I suspect many guys here would be hard-pressed to answer > what their wife/girlfriend is wearing today, or what they themselves wore yesterday. I could. Day before yesterday too. |
| Per |
| Sunday October 26 11:21:39 2003 Mr. Ed? |
| Did Mr. Ed pan out with the bondage scene with the foreign agent? HOw was the situation with the time change?
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| Sunday October 26 11:23:07 2003 Bound in closet |
| Quiz: which DID was bound in the closet twice by the same
villain in 2 different episodes? Is there any other "bound in closet" scene? |
| Sunday October 26 11:54:20 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| Per wrote:
> Please take a look on the last cap from scene 1 and tell > me, is this bedroom a closet (or maybe she is locked in a > closet later?). Haven't seen this in years, so I don't recall if she was later put in a closet. In the pics, she's definitely in a bedroom. No closets that I know of have beds in them, except maybe my first apartment. :)) |
| LV |
| Sunday October 26 11:59:46 2003 Re: Mr. Ed? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Did Mr. Ed pan out with the bondage scene with the > foreign agent? HOw was the situation with the time change? No the only one who got tied up was Wilbur. As the show was about to end the lady spy and her gang was lead out in handcuffs. |
| Sunday October 26 12:08:48 2003 Re: Per's Post- Data-Base Descriptions |
| Per wrote:
> Jay, do you mean I should not add a short sentence like > "wears a red dress and heels" in future > entries? Still fine if you want to enter it, or want it added in to an existing entry via Data-Base Corretions Page. |
| Jay L |
| Sunday October 26 12:35:57 2003 Re: Whitelord Signy Award 2003 |
| I lost all faith in the Signy awards when the Grand champion, winner takes all, best mainstream DID scene for the past century turned out to be:
*drumroll* the hogtie of Annabella Sciorra in Whispers in the Dark. I'm sorry, but WHAT??? Okay, it's an okay scene: a fine tie job and an excellent gag, but best scene in the entire 20th century???? I'd bet that anyone on this board could list at least 10 scenes they'd list as better in terms of quality and significance. |
| Mazer Rackham |
| Sunday October 26 12:49:13 2003 Re: Whitelord Signy Award 2003 |
| Mazer Rackham wrote:
> the hogtie of Annabella Sciorra in Whispers in the >Dark. >a fine tie job .... Not even that IMO. There are no knots visible, and since nylon ropes were used she could have escaped easily (nylon is smooth and slip/glide without knots and a bit of struggling). Also, the guy freed her hands in app 1/2 sec proving she wasn't tied at all. OK scene, but I agree never the best in any year let alone a century. |
| Per |
| Sunday October 26 15:23:59 2003 Re: Mr. Ed? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Did Mr. Ed pan out with the bondage scene with the > foreign agent? HOw was the situation with the time change? > Arrested spy Jacqueline Beer is shown handcuffed in front in a short scene around the 22' mark. She's wearing a dark leotard and tights along with a matching hood covering her hair. The ep aired at 330AM E/PST ... if you changed your VCR's clock (or have an automatic switching feature) you were fine. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Sunday October 26 15:52:06 2003 Re: Wrong Turn |
| Alias wrote:
> Eliza Dushku rules So is the scene from Wrong Turn as great as it looks in still pics? |
| H |
| Sunday October 26 16:12:49 2003 Travel Channel Show? |
| Last year, shortly before Halloween, someone posted about a show that aired on the Travel Channel that featured the attractive female host touring some old, supposedly haunted, inn or mansion with her hands cuffed behind her back. The Travel Channel is airing a lot of "haunted mansion" type of shows this week. Anyone recall the title or description of the one that aired last year? |
| CM |
| Sunday October 26 16:19:38 2003 Re: Whitelord Signy Award 2003 |
| Mazer Rackham wrote:
> the hogtie of Annabella Sciorra in Whispers in the Dark. > > I'm sorry, but WHAT??? Okay, it's an okay scene: a fine > tie job and an excellent gag, but best scene in the > entire 20th century???? This is, of course, just my opinion..... I myself would rate that as one of the most overrated scenes in the DiD Genre. Seriously, I just couldn't see what was so great about it. She just laid there quietly for a minute, then he untid her. It was like a still cap. The only thing that made it notable was the mouth packing. > I'd bet that anyone on this > board could list at least 10 scenes they'd list as better > in terms of quality and significance. |
| Anubis |
| Sunday October 26 16:21:02 2003 Re: Wrong Turn |
| H wrote:
> So is the scene from Wrong Turn as great as it looks in > still pics? Yes. I think this was the best scene of the year, much better than Spun IMO. |
| Anubis |
| Sunday October 26 16:21:25 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| Per wrote:
> > Renegade 1: > > > > Record number: 325 > > > Wearing a skin tight leather dress she gets her > hands > > tied behind on screen with phone cord, tape gagged > and > > locked in a closet. > > Thanks LV, I'll go with your identification of Renegade > 1. > The skin-tight leather dress, the on-screen tying and the > tapegag all fits. > What made me unsure was the phone cord (does American > phone cord really look like this thin white something?) Yes, I agree it's "Den of Thieves". Per, I believe you are correct, that is no phone cord. I remember the two, Reno and the woman, had just opened a safe using a drill. I think Reno picked up some extension cord to tie her up. In general, some detail in a description is helpful, but there are mainly other purposes to be fulfilled: 1) To alert people that there is a scene at all, 2) To help them decide if they think it worth watching and/or taping. 3) Tp ID a scene you have seen on TV. Using DB entries to identify vidcaps is a little way off, although I have used them myself sometimes for that. I say don't get lost too much in details. Now for something different. Renegade 2 is this episode: 3.15: "Stalker's Moon" A serial killer is stalking Santa Barbara, and Bobby is determined to bring him in, but when Bobby disappears Chey takes Reno to track him down, little knowing that Bobby is in the hands of the killer. That means it is not in the database. I don't yet know the name of the damsel. If I get to "re-watch" it some day, I will add it to the database (unless someone who has recently seen it beats me to it). |
| Peter de K |
| Sunday October 26 16:27:29 2003 "Keen" on Bravo |
| Bravo has picked up reruns of "Keen Eddie" and will also air 6 previously unaired episodes. So maybe we'll get a Sienna Miller scene after all. No air dates yet. |
| CM |
| Sunday October 26 17:18:00 2003 Re: Jay L's post |
| Jay L, How tied is important to me, but how dressed is also important. I particularly like skirts and heels, but won't spend much time on slacks, combat boots, etc. So I appreciate the detail as it saves me time. |
| LTL |
| Sunday October 26 17:23:27 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| Peter de K wrote:
> Per, I > believe you are correct, that is no phone cord. I'm glad someone agrees it looks a little strange. >purposes to be fulfilled: 1) To > alert people that there is a scene at all, 2) To help > them decide if they think it worth watching and/or > taping. 3) Tp ID a scene you have seen on TV. Using DB > entries to identify vidcaps is a little way off. I say don't > get lost too much in details. Of course I agree with the last statement. I do not advocate for writing a novel about the damsel's clothes. The alert thing is a given given the entry. As for point 2, I would say some detail were nessassary. I think we all agree that "she was B&G in that episode" isn't good enough for point 2. Tied how, gagged how, for how long, struggling, mmphing, escape or rescued etc, all those things that make a scene. As for 3 I don't see why we can't identify caps from a Db description if it's good. Same goes for a scene we taped but forgot to record where it was from. Doesn't take much to make that a lot easier: "She is in an abandoned factory. Wears a blue top and jeans", or "Tied to a tree in the jungle, wearing jungle-girl outfit" doesn't take many seconds to write if you just saw the scene, and it can be a great help for others later. 3.15: "Stalker's Moon" Thanks a lot Peter. That's 2 down, 2 to go. |
| Per |
| Sunday October 26 18:15:35 2003 Re: Jay L's post |
| LTL wrote:
> Jay L, How tied is important to me, but how dressed is > also important. I particularly like skirts Still add in if requested over on Data-Base Corrections Page for that reason. |
| Jay L |
| Sunday October 26 18:27:36 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| Per wrote:
> I think we > all agree that "she was B&G in that > episode" isn't good enough Okay, this and "bound hand & foot" hear about. What happened a few years back, David knew of this site where a fella sold Mainstream scene tapes. That's how the descriptions were on the page, Title, Actress, Bound & Gagged Plan back then was to gather the info for reference, then update the entries after they aired. This just coming along slowly. |
| Jay L |
| Sunday October 26 18:35:30 2003 Re: Jay L's post |
| Jay L wrote:
> LTL wrote: > > > how dressed is also important. > > Still add in if requested over on Data-Base Corrections Well, people can suggest that. I've been know to ignore or drastically edit mundane clothing description. |
| Brian R |
| Sunday October 26 18:39:03 2003 Re: Unknown Renegade scenes |
| Jay L wrote:
> Per wrote: > > > "she was B&G in that episode" isn't good enough > > What happened a few years back, > David knew of this site where a fella sold Mainstream > scene tapes. That was Brent's tapes. > Plan back then was to gather the info for reference, then > update the entries after they aired. This just coming > along slowly. Should be noted that this was all discussed amongst the editors and approved by me. New entries that have sketchy descriptions are frowned upon, but will be of course be kept so that we can fill them out just like the other case. Something is better than nothing. |
| Brian R |
| Sunday October 26 19:39:25 2003 Tied & True Tales updated and a big THANK YOU!IG |
| Hi all, it gives me great pleasure that I’m baaaaackkkkk with a new update at Tied and True Tales! (http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ttt) I’ve posted 6 new stories including the light-hearted tale of “My First Ballgag” from my pen. My first car, my first kiss… What about my first ballgag? :-D
Having said that, I sincerely apologise for taking so long to getting around to updating TTT. Regular readers at Lorelei's Gagtalk forum will probably remember my posts several months ago regarding my relationship problems (dealing with her dislike of bondage amongst other things). Unfortunately, I’ve now broken up with my partner of 7 years and it was really, really upsetting. I’m only just getting over everything now. That’s why I lost all enthusiasm for TTT while I was trying to cope with our slowly disintegrating relationship until the inevitable, if deeply painful end of everything as well as building my small business (Mason’s Maps). As it turns out although bondage was one of the reasons we broke up, it was far from the major issue/s facing us – we just had too many problems for it to ever work again. We’re still friends though and that’s something anyway. Anyway, thanks again for being so patient and understanding. Lastly, I’ve only just found out that Tied and True Tales has made it into the final 20 of “Best Free Sites” in the annual SIGNY awards hosted by White Lord for Best Bondage sites. That is; riggers, models, Best Pay sites, Best Free sites (Tied and True Tales is a finalist in this category) and so on. (http://whitelord.ath.cx/s2003/signy2003form3_english.html) I honestly can’t believe I’ve made it into the finals considering I have not updated for so long! For those of you who may have voted for TTT, I would like to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your wonderful support. Hearing that I made the last 20 really gave me a huge lift, one that I really needed. Even if I don’t ‘win’, I’m rapt just to have made it this far and it gives me a great deal of pleasure to know people have enjoyed reading Tied and True Tales that much they actually took the time to vote for me. I’d also like to say THANKS again to all those who contributed their stories, pictures or articles, your efforts have been greatly appreciated. Cheers and keep on tying em up! mason |
| mason |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ttt |
| Sunday October 26 19:42:46 2003 Re: Wrong Turn |
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> Yes. I think this was the best scene of the year, much > better than Spun IMO. Own some history. |
| Sven |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=790&item=3358220258 |
| Sunday October 26 20:22:10 2003 Re: Mr. Ed? |
| > > Did Mr. Ed pan out with the bondage scene with the
> > foreign agent? HOw was the situation with the time > change? > No the only one who got tied up was Wilbur. As the show > was about to end the lady spy and her gang was lead out > in handcuffs. Does this mean that this was not the correct episode, with a lady tied & gagged, or that the scene in question DID air last night & there was no such Mr. Ed scene, but a case of "scene creep"? I recorded I think 6 hours of Mr. Ed last nite (I wasn't sure when exactly it might air with the Daylight Savings Time thing) but if there wasn't a scene I won't have to scan thru all of the stuff. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Sunday October 26 21:02:18 2003 source? |
| Did someone mention that the movie "The Source" (aka. The Surge) was supposed to air tonite (early Monday)? I remember seeing a mention of it a couple days ago but now I can't find a thing on it. |
| JP |
| Sunday October 26 21:04:14 2003 Amazon.com lets you search inside the books - easier to check out DiD now |
| I just checked out amazon.com today and noticed a message saying they added a new feature called "Search inside the book". Basically, you enter a search term, and for about 120,000 books which they've scanned every page of, they search for that term. They then let you read the exact page the term is found in, in addition to 2 pages prior and 2 pages after, presumably so you can see the term in context.
Of course, you know what this means. If you ever wondered if a mainstream novel has a DiD scene, and that novel just happens to use the "search inside the book" feature, then now it's easy to find out. Just search for "gag", "tied", etc, and see what comes up. It's a goldmine! It finds words based on recognition via the images of the scanned pages - I discovered that when I searched a comic strip compilation and got a mixture of all caps words, out of order grammar (due to placement of speech balloons), and gibberish. But it was still searchable. Anyway, I don't see why novel fans would want to miss out on this feature, so try it out! |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday October 26 21:30:41 2003 Re: Wrong Turn |
| Sven wrote:
> Own some history. He has a few nice caps of Dushku on the auction page. Interestingly, this is the same seller who was just selling the videotape lot of Disturbed and Criminal Act. In that auction, he specifically mentioned they would be of interest to mainstream bondage fans. In the past month he has auctioned nothing but bondage related material. He also recently won himself an autographed copy of the picture of Heather Graham tied to a chair. |
| LV |
| Sunday October 26 21:35:24 2003 Scooby Doo - Big Scare in the Big Easy |
| Saw this episode from What's New Scooby Doo. Daphne was bound and gagged nicely although short. Just gotta love her lines near the end of the show when she was thanking Shaggy and Scooby for rescuing her.
Shaggy: Thank yourself Daphne. If you hadn't called for help we wouldn't have found you. Daphne: But I didn't call for help. I was gagged remember? I can hardly make a sound. |
| Cris |
| crisostomoibarra@hotmail.com |
| Sunday October 26 22:03:12 2003 Re: Amazon.com lets you search inside the books - easier to check out DiD now |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> (stuff) Addendum to above. You need an account with them in order to do it. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday October 26 23:21:38 2003 Re: Travel Channel Show? |
| CM,
A while ago I posted something on here about the Great Vacation Homes show with Samantha Brown (not a haunted house theme at all). She was handcuffed jokingly by the house's owner who had an old police car. Maybe this is what you were thinking of. |
| Psychlops |
| Sunday October 26 23:24:34 2003 In The Cut-Meg Ryan |
| Anyone seen this film yet? I'm hoping Meg Ryan gets some long-deserved treatment. |
| Psychlops |
| Sunday October 26 23:26:00 2003 Re: Per's Post- Data-Base Descriptions |
| Per wrote:
> Jay, do you mean I should not add a short sentence like > "wears a red dress and heels" in future > entries? > -could still help ID "unknown caps" like in this case IMHO. I think clothes desriptions is a very good idea, it helps identify unknown titles quite often. Theres been quite a few TV shows in the DB that I've been able to identify the episode title from because of a description of her clothes. |
| Anubis |
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